A Position-By-Position Look at How Ohio State's 2020 Roster Stacks Up in Experience, Depth

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Lots of experience at some key spots, have to like that. I think with Wade back and the elite athletes in the secondary the corners and safeties are going to be okay, but I think there may be some growing pains. Just hope they settle who the positional coach/co-dc is sooner rather than later. Really want to see that group start hitting the ground running with the new leader for that group.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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stpetebuck's picture

If/when Coombs returns, this unit should be elite by years end. 

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sharks's picture

Tailback and safety are my only real concerns. Really need MT3 to take the next step, and need a guy to step up next to Proctor. All in all though, looks great on paper.

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Lawver_5's picture

I would have to agree with you on this. I really like Proctor, but Fuller has been such a reliable safety net back there, you just hope Proctor has a good offseason and plays up to potential. When it comes to the RB position, I definitely think Teague is talented, but can he turn it up to an elite level? 

I'll also be really interested to see who separates themselves from the DT pack. Tons of talent in there and Vincent might be the most talented of all of them even though we haven't really seen any play from him due to injuries. Really looking forward to how the depth chart shakes out

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Brutus865's picture

How is Demario McCall still on the roster? It seems like he should be gone by now.

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McGrind's picture

RunDMC...going to break out any day now...

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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BbBnD's picture

Next to proctor or after proctor? We don’t play 2 safeties at the same time on a regular basis anymore. 

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seyekcuB's picture

We have beast at RB. Teague and Crowley are thunder and lightning. JP might be the hardest hitting safety at Ohio state since Jack Tatum.

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fishleehooker's picture

Football is such a team game that you can't really assign too much meaning to losing players.  It's all about those 11 players playing together, and then executing. Plus luck.  I think too much is made out of "mismatches" in the game.  Or coverage nightmares.  It seems many championship teams were in many ways not as talented as the team they had the year prior.  I think the Defense will be in year 2 and Day will be in year 2. Fields will be in year 2.  The gains we can make up for having those systems be familiar, as well as the leadership and scheme knowledge that Fields should gain, should more than make up for any personnel losses.  Plus we have tons of raw talent.  A lot of teams lose a ton around the country too.   So to me, it's all about year 2 for Day, Fields, Mattison, G Wilson and some others.  

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BTBuckeye's picture

We look like a contender on paper. Let's go bucks!

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CptBuckeye24's picture

Would Friday or someone else consider moving to DT?

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stantmann's picture

 Ruckert (88) and Farrell (89) should get their DNA checked. I suspect they may be long lost brothers.

"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra

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Exile's picture

I guess we really have a type of player we're looking for when recruiting the TE position. A very specific type. 

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I like what I see enough to be excited. You don't get experience until you have it and thankfully, OSU is rich at very key spots-OL, LB, and most of all QB. I also feel drastically better about the worst case option of Fields going down with the talent coming in (I won't speak that voodoo into existence but injuries happen).

LB play is going to be crucial for the defense but I think this DL can be better than the sum of its parts (even though it has some really sweet parts). The secondary worries me right now, at present, as I think Wade will be a lock down but a second and third CB need to emerge. I'm both over the moon and terrified of Josh Proctor at safety. I think he can be a star but I think he'll have some aggravating moments mixed in there, where as Fuller was just solid and steady as they came. I think Proctor has the ability to make and miss plays that change games. Let's hope for more of the former and less of the latter.

As for WR....Oh man. The thought of a pissed off Olave and budding Wilson is awesome to think about while the insane crop of young guns gets their legs underneath them. 

I like the idea of OSU's best run blockers returning, Davis may be a first round pick before its all said and done. Really excited to see who emerges at the other tackle spot, assuming they don't slide Mumford inside?

Unit wise, I feel like the offense has its stars-Fields and Olave are established and I think Wilson is the next big thing. Defensively they need impact players. Wade is the likely option but a corner can sometimes affect games by just not allowing things to happen (meaning he can't make plays if he isn't thrown at). We have been spoiled by elite DE after elite DE after elite DE so I think that guy has to emerge too-we are all looking at Zach for this as he has the pedigree and did flash.

A lot of words here to say that I'm thrilled about some spots, excited about some spots, nervous about some spots, and terrified of a few. 

I still trust Day and company to keep this machine moving.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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stlbuckeye15's picture

Definitely have the talent to be great next season. Hoping for some growth and maturation for some of the less experienced players. Will have a different feel with Chase and Dobbins gone but expect our offense to be explosive especially as Fields continues to improve.

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keith7456's picture

I bet at least one of the WRs leave. (Harris, Gardiner, Babb(medical hardship maybe))
At least one of the OL leaves. (Cupp, Wray)
Could see a LB leave. (Wint)
Wouldn't completely shock me if either McCall or Gill leave after spring if it looks like the new guys are passing them.

I hope that anyone that does transfer does really big things at wherever they go.

This team is going to be absolutely loaded next year. 

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BrutusB's picture

I also wouldn't be shocked if one of the TEs wanted to have a bigger role somewhere else.

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keith7456's picture

Yeah, wouldn't be a shock if Hausmann transferred. 

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Dstacify's picture

Ruckert and Farrell both see the field pretty regularly (and Ruckert's role in the passing game could grow this upcoming season since three experienced WRs are leaving) so I could see Hausmann maybe transferring.

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BrutusB's picture

Those Munford snaps are crazy.  That's a man who has seen some shit.

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keith7456's picture

That is a great thing. To have a LT protecting Fields and have almost 2k snaps of experience. That is a huge deal.

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Sanitarian2's picture

It is but OT depth is clearly of concern with only two players that have any real snap count at that position,

Sani

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keith7456's picture

It definitely could be but Paris Johnson being an early enrollee is big. He will be prepared to contribute if needed. Dawand Jones having another year in the system will be big too. We should have 3 blow outs in the first 4 games(BGSU, Buffalo, Rutgers) to get those guys a good number of snaps early in the season.

Obviously having any injury on the OL is really bad because losing 1 guy on the line can impact the continuity up there. I have faith in Stud and Wilson to have them ready to go.

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Atl_Buckeye72's picture

What ever happened to Max Wray? 

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keith7456's picture

He's still there currently, just hasn't made any impact and getting passed up by younger kids. Read a few people and I agree that he may be a transfer possibility. 

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buckeye phi's picture

Even with Wade's return, at this point, I'm most concerned about cornerback this year.  Every time Wade, Okudah or Arnette had to come out of a game last season, the drop-off was very notable, in my opinion. 

At least a couple of last season's backups (and/or possibly, a freshman) will have to step up in a major way for Coach Day's defensive vision to be realized. As he's stated, when it comes the secondary, his concept is comprised of zone, pattern-matching zone and of course, man coverage.  Obviously, this (especially, the last two) is dependent on excellent corner play. 

I think we're probably in very good shape practically everywhere else.  Which is nice -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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BrutusB's picture

That's normal though.  Backup DBs always look fairly mediocre until suddenly they're very good.  Our fans HATED Gareon Conley for the first half of his career.  Ditto for Arnette.  Hell, even Okudah was just ok for most of 2018 (then took a gigantic leap during bowl practice).

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buckeye phi's picture

Actually, when Coach Coombs was coaching the corners, he would often say he had confidence two-deep in the rotation,  If we had had as much confidence two-deep last season, nobody would have been coming in cold.  They would have been rotating in, throughout -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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Dstacify's picture

Marshon Lattimore I remember looked absolutely awful in his first ever game action (2015 at Indiana). Now look at him. It's very much a position you have to grow into.

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thebraxtonmillershow's picture

Corner back is just as mental as it is physical. When a player trusts his technique and ability, is when you will see his best. And is why it can take time.

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bd2999's picture

I thought they looked ok through the Big Ten schedule for the most part. It is hard to come in cold and then keep up to somebody. Not to mention many good OSU CB looked shaky early on and then greatly improved into the next season.

I am curious to see how they do but I do not think it is a giant drop off. At least potentially. Getting Wade back is really good though, it anchors at least one of those spots. Having Hafley back there would make me  feel a bit better but whomever they get is going to be really good and coach them up to be ready after a year in the system.

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keith7456's picture

From what I saw it just looked like inexperience more than than not being about to play. These kids are going to get a bunch of reps in spring. Besides the Oregon game we play BGSU, Buffalo, and Rutgers the 1st 4 games and then a bye week. They will have time.

I feel good about them especially if we get Coombs in here. He recruited most of these kids and know who they are. 

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buckeye phi's picture

Yes - let's just hope we're getting Coombs back.  As I mentioned above, it seemed he had our second level corners coached up enough that he could substitute (or even rotate) without such a dramatic drop-off -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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Buckabroad's picture

Good Lord, that OL (inter alia)! Opposing DLs, prepare to be mauled. 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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seyekcuB's picture

Ohio State vs Clemson or bust.

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BrutusB's picture

Screw that.  I hope we go 15-0 while Clemson misses the playoff.

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CalBuck555's picture

Have you seen Clemson's schedule the next 6 years . They are a lock to get there for all those years or more. Their conference sucks.

Rose Bowl or Bust

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BbBnD's picture

BC might make it a little trickier in a couple of years. 

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BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

I'm told it's us vs Florida in the title game

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

Hypothetically, what does OSU do if the starting kicker (Haubeil) gets hurt and the back-up is being gray-shirted (Siebert)?

  • Can you play the gray-shirt?
  • I assume you can because he's not on scholarship, but he probably loses a year of eligibility?
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Sampson8080's picture

As a greyshirt, Siebert won't even be enrolled in the University until the second semester of the school year.

Greyshirts agree to not enroll in school for a semester/year, so their four in five clock begins ticking a year later.

In your scenario, they would have to utilize one of the walk-on kickers.

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Sque32's picture

Yes he can play a gray shirt really means he pays his own way the first year before going on scholarship he is still eligible to practice and play but his family has to pay the bill for tuition and housing.

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BrutusB's picture

If he did play without a scholarship he would just be a walk-on.  Playing one snap would start his eligibilitiy clock - the "five years to play four" timer.  Greyshirting typically means he's not enrolled yet but will be later.

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Sampson8080's picture

The clock doesn't start when you start playing, it starts when you enroll in classes full time. 

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Sampson8080's picture

No, he is not eligible to play because he is not enrolled in school full time during the fall semester. If he was, that would start his four years of eligibility in five years clock. 

A grey shirt is an incoming college freshman who postpones his enrollment in (full time) classes until the second term of his freshman year. This means they don't take (full time) classes until the winter term. The NCAA allows college athletes five years to complete four years of eligibility after initial (full time) enrollment.

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keith7456's picture

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/1/28/10842688/...

Athletes who grayshirt are allowed to enroll as students. They go to class for the first semester as part-time students, either at the school or at a junior college, without starting their eligibility clocks. Then they begin as full-time students on scholarship.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

We have 2 proven.and skilled receivers. We have exceptional new receivers arriving. A proven and accurate QB. Would love to see one win the Blitnikof (sp?) Award. Watching Joe and LSU being so incredibly skilled was amazing Monday night. A cut above the rest of the country. We will see if coach Day calls plays to take advantage of our skill in that area. I hope so.

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MaineStrength's picture

Plenty of talent everywhere with a bit of questions in the secondary and the QB depth.  Once again if Fields is healthy OSU should be a NC contender.  But, given the lack of depth and the fact he had some difficulty with the knee this year I'd be concerned with his health and what happens if he can't play for an extended stretch or against any of the top games on the schedule.

Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.

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huffdaddy's picture

Stacked roster talent-wise.

I'm looking for Proctor and Tyreke Johnson and Petit-Frere to show out. Lots of hype, time for the production.

And we need an RB or committee that can make us more like 2019 than 2018. Fields' legs will help but we need a credible threat out of the backfield. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Bigmarty's picture

DT concerns me....loss of Hamilton's 315 Lbs. in middle of defense gonna hurt with only 6 total in that spot and Vincent an injury returnee and no big uns coming in..     One injury away from 5 and Cage a Question mark.

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tbirnbrich's picture

Worst case scenario, I'd bet there are some boys over in the OL room at the G position that played DT in HS. But that again would be involving 2 injuries to the top guys.

I think DT, provided health is all good, should be a strength of this team. Vincent and Tommy T will be game wreckers out there.

I will pound and pound you until you quit

- Woody Hayes

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TurboNut's picture

We are thin there for sure. I have faith in Coach Johnson that he'll have a plan if it happens. He's moved guys from other positions before to fill in, moving guys from edge to the inside or even how he pulled Berry from TE back to DE last year. We are pretty deep on the OL, maybe there's a guy there that he could flip over. 2021 class we have to sign some more quality DT's. 

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

DT is all about Vincent for me.  If he can come back and be the force that he can be, it is a position of strength. If not, it is a bit of a thin spot.

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TurboNut's picture

BTW another TUN player in the transfer portal and this time it's a DT. Michael Dwumfour is a grad transfer so he would be eligible to play immediately and couldn't be blocked from playing for another B1G team. Maybe he wants to finally get a pair of gold pants.... 

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keith7456's picture

That's crazy. He's a starter and many expected him to be a leader for their D next year. Harbaugh....the gift that keeps on giving...please TTUN sign him to a lifetime contract...

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TurboNut's picture

We took some of their coaches last year and beat them badly, let's take some of their players and beat them down all over again. 

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TJB4233's picture

Mattison was his coach the past few seasons, perhaps a possibility 

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McGrind's picture

Looking forward to the Endgame set...with DeThanos as H-Back.

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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LWiegand91's picture

Offensively as Day adjusts to the personnel in this year, with the maulers up front (Davis, Meyer, Miller), the TE experience, would not be shocked to see more QB under center, power I with Fullback(TE) isolation. Fits with the O-line, TE's Teague's style and Day wanting to be multiple with the TE and multiple TE sets. play action with Olave and Wilson, scary.

Defensively I am most concerned with the DT's. Need 4 of them to step up.

Overall, if fields progresses, and I believe he will, and if the D continues to build on last year, this team is right back in the CFP and NC possible.

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TurboNut's picture

Coach Coombs will have a lot of talent to work with in that secondary which is great. I know there's a lot of concern with the lack of experience but Yoda on Red Bull will get them ready to play and DBU BIA will be a force to be reckoned with. 

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Evra's picture

A second year of Fields is legitimately the most important thing to happen to OSU in quite some time.  I believe Stroud or Miller, whoever wins that battle, is going to be absolutely lethal in this offense after watching JF work this year. Whoever ends up being the 2021 QB will have an experienced Wilson and Fleming... dangerous. 

As for 2020, Throw the ball 40 times a game.  Let Fields sling it like he did in the Clemson game, he'll make a few more mistakes, but his talent is undeniable.

As always, the future is BRIGHT in the 614!!
 

Jefe is free

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keith7456's picture

Who wants a good laugh?
https://www.draftblaster.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft

Scroll down to their prediction for the #19 pick.

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937Buck's picture

I couldn’t get past #16. Pretty funny stuff!

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keith7456's picture

Agree on that one too. 

#19 is Tuf Borland to Green Bay.

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CTownBucknut's picture

The most amazing part of this roster and the part that is so intriguing, besides the obvious, is that one of the greatest recruiting classes in OSU history, the 2018 class, have barely even scratched the surface yet.  You have Teague and Olave as big contributors, and a few others who have added depth and made some plays, but vey few have made major impacts yet.  I say this not to knock that class, but rather to emphasize the fact that there are likely future stars from that class who have barely gotten started or been needed as key players yet.  In my opinion, that will be the difference between this being a very good versus great season, what impact guys like NPF and Vincent and Tyreke Smith make, will Togiai and Ruckert take that leap from good to great, will guys like Tyreke Johnson and Gill and Mitchell start making a mark, etc.  It's time for the 2018 class to really break out!     

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1983Buckeye's picture

Seen a bunch of ppl talking about our defensive tackles... That's one place I am not all that worried about.    Togiai is going to be a monster for us and as long as Vincent is healthy id argue that they would be the best 2 DTs we have had in a while... Not shaming the seniors from this year cause they played great, but I am fine with those 2 with a rotation of a bunch of garret and sprinkle in some Jackson and cage and in my opinion that would be a great d tackle combo... Plus one or two of those freshman coming in and wanna see what McKenzie can do after a year with coach LJ

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bdbrown66's picture

McCall, who has bounced back-and-forth between running back and H-back as a Buckeye, could end up in either position group in 2020 but theoretically could offer the most value as a complement to Teague in the RB rotation.

Please stop.  I've got nothing against the kid, but he's done absolutely nothing in the last 3 years to make anyone believe that he is the next-best option behind Teague, in spite of the constant promotion by the 11W writers.

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robinson819's picture

I think they should try to develop Craig Young like Clemson developed Simmons. My belief is he has it in him from a size and athleticism standpoint.

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JakeStevensIsSwag's picture

Fair to expect that Fleming, Scott, and or Njigba get more playing time than Jaylen Harris, Williams, and Gill?

If i could change my username, i would

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