Makes me wanna puke to see that punchable face. His tweets should be banned.
Worthless McMutt at his best- got to get those clicks ya know
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
Hey Brett...go fuck yourself!
McMurphy may be an asshole but I loved him on Cheers.
God bless and go Bucks.
That would be a kick in the other nut after Hafley.
Is McMurphy Texas Tom's personal media mouthpiece now? Hopefully this is just Texas Tom's weak attempt to mess-up our bowl prep and not a real consideration for Yurcich.
Tom was the one who fed him the background on Zach Smith that led to all the shit in 2018. Of course he’s Tom’s mouthpiece now.
FWIW, his Wiki page had been edited over the past couple weeks to show him as the PSU offensive coordinator for 2020. If anything, maybe he’s due a pay bump. I would think Wilson would go before Yurcich.
Burt reporting more stuff from Herman? You don’t say. Why would Yurcich take a step backwards?
Hopping into a dumpster fire is a mistake.
Barney Fife lives, and he lives among us.
To be perfectly blunt, only an idiot would take that job. Herman made it clear by passing on Harrell that he was not giving the keys to his offense away. Yurcich can stay one more year and get the Co-OC job at Ohio State, with much better talent and in his home state.
Would also be extremely risky because if Tom finishes 7-5 again hes likely out of a job.
I hope he takes the interview so he can tell Tom to eat shit in person.
All Glory is Fleeting
Since 'everything is bigger in Texas', hopefully that turd Tom eats will be too.
McMurphy is a twit
Here chew on this
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This could segue into a ‘who do we despise more’ discussion:
For me, Swinney is at the top right now. That could change with a W on Saturday.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
There are times where the worst thing that can be spread is misinformation
Regardless of who the source is, I think he's spot on and this information has actually been circulating for a while now. I don't get why anyone would be too up in arms over it really. He doesn't call plays (and never will here) and finding a "passing game coordinator" wouldn't be difficult at all under Day. I've been under the impression that he's more likely to be OC at a place like Texas or Notre Dame than to be back in Columbus next year.
To me it’s more the going to Texas part.
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Is it a fit issue, or what? Seems like a move from Oklahoma State to Ohio State would’ve been because Day saw a need in the offensive development that Yurcich could fill, that Wilson was ready to move on and he wanted some stability among the offensive coaches, that he needed a QB coach to develop the inexperienced roster, or that Yurcich wanted a stepping stone in Columbus that he couldn’t get in Stillwater. If he leaves for a Texas, it seems none of those would be true. What was the mutual attraction?
I've heard he's not an easy guy to get along with at all. Have also heard that Okie State wasn't going to keep him around if Ohio State hadn't hired him. Somewhat hard to believe given how good their offenses were, but I guess he's a really tough guy to work with.
This makes me feel a little better. Since news of Yurcich to Texas has been out for a bit, is there any word on who a replacement could be?
Haven't heard anything and I don't think this Yurcich stuff is 100 percent done yet. If it were to happen then I'd think maybe they'd just look for a younger guy who can recruit. The offense is in good hands regardless with Day and Wilson running the show.
If Yurcich isn’t a good fit with Days system, etc, then I guess I’m ok with him moving on and finding someone who can recruit like you said. The problem, though, is when Wilson leaves after next season because you know he will. Gonna be a much bigger challenge to replace him
I wonder if anyone would hire Kevin Wilson as a head coach with the story surrounding his exit from Indiana. Fair or not, player treatment is a bigger deal now than it was years ago. He may need a little more distance from those events.
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
Thanks Andrew. I wouldn't think an abrasive personality like that meshes well with Ryan Day.
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I'd take all this rumor-mongering with a grain of salt. Multiple OSU fans on this site seem to think Day and Wilson don't get along based on what they've "heard" in the OSU grapevine. And yet why would Day retain Wilson on his staff if that were the case?
I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly... You're saying you've heard Yurcich isn't an easy guy to get along with? I don't see that fitting with Ryan Day's culture at all. That's what I heard about Grinch, for example, and we saw how Day dumped him rather quickly. Yurcich is a good offensive mind and I thought did some nice things adding to our offense -- the under center stuff we used occasionally was from OkieSU -- for example.
I think the recently fired Chad Morris would make for a nice replacement and he'd likely be here for a couple of years to redeem his reputation and get another shot as a head coach. Also - Matt Canada is a really brilliant mind and creative with motions to confuse the defense. I wonder if his philosophy would mesh with Days?
You win with people.
And so forth...
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Morris already took a job last week at Auburn.
Sounds like he'll fit in perfectly with Herman than.
That’s really surprising to hear. Especially when you consider Coach Day, who seems like he’s so meticulous in everything he does. You’d think he’d assemble a staff that works well together, choosing carefully who would fill out his staff. This is the first I’ve heard that about Yurcich.. When the hire was made last year, it seemed to make sense to bring in a guy with Northeast Ohio roots (Euclid, Oh), but maybe this is a situation where Day is encouraging him to look around.
Would he have more play calling control in Texas? I thought Herman called the plays there
Beck started off calling the plays from the booth but then Herman took over when that didn't work. Herman has said before that he doesn't like calling plays from the sideline and wants their next OC to fully take over that responsibility.
You mean Beck wasn't up to the job, the fact that Mensa Tom saw what he did to OSU offense and hired him anyways was hilarious. The Bucks will have the strongest QB room in the nation the next few years, I am sure Day will find someone as good if not better.
Who coaches the QBs? Yurcich or Day? Continuity for Fields would be my only concern. Still not sure why Yurcich would take a step backwards though.
It's a dual effort but mostly Day from what I have been told.
Corey Dennis has been instrumental in coaching the QBs, but he’s off to become part of Addazio’s staff at Colorado State.
Has he accepted a CSU position? If not, hopefully he replaces Yurcich.
Lololololololol. You want Urban Meyer's son-in-law to be our freakin' passing game coordinator?????? Meyer freakin' ruined the coaching staff with his cronyism.
Edit: Urban Meyer was either the best or second best coach in Ohio State history and left at the top of his game. He didn’t ruin anything.
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Exactly what I was wondering. It’s interesting Dennis was reported as going to CSU, but that hasn’t seemed formally, officially acknowledged/reported. Maybe Day told Dennis, just wait a minute ..... Urban, and esp Shelly, would like that. QB coach/pass game coord at TOSU much better than CSU and the family angle.
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
Both Yurcich and Corey Dennis have managed the QBs this year (though Day clearly carries considerable influence).
The downvote trolls in this thread are pathetic. How on earth does this benign post get 3 DVs?
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
The trick is to look at who has commented close to the weird downvotes. There's a regular group who have as many down votes as up votes in their profiles. Don't let them get you. Most on this site aren't like that. This is generally a very healthy comment site.
Not sure why he would take a job that one poor season and he is likely jobless.
You know a lot of us follow sports practically hourly, every day, especially on Twitter where rumors like this, if they exists, are constant. I haven't seen one example until now that Yuricich is a candidate for Texas.
I don't understand when people say he's actually hard to get along with this is why he's being ushered out as if all of those coaches aren't arse holes to some extent and don't wear on each other. Heck, the HC huddle and sideline time during the games are probably all they can all stand to be around each other in reality. So this isn't really something we should be using.
It's probably much more prudent not to use this narrative to sort of help ease the uncertainty losing a coach creates.
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
If it comes from some random poster, then I’d agree that we should back off until we hear it from a reputable source. But when a connected person says it, I think it’s insightful and worthy of discussion. It doesn’t mean it’s always 100% accurate, but in the case of Yurcich I’ve always wondered why he made the move from Okie State to here.
And if Grundy was going to let him go, and he landed here, that’s not unusual either. at TTUN was a guy who wasn’t going to get the OC job at Alabama, got a phone call a half hour after learning that and was offered by TTUN. At first, it looked like they stole him. In hindsight, they overpaid for a guy who might not even been ready. There often are backstories - important ones - that we don’t know about until “after”.
Hey. We're not going to agree on everything. I'm not one to accept everything that comes from the media.
I'll take my downvotes like a man.
I don't get the tom hate. Guy helped us win a chip and now we have Hartline. Who has it better than us?
High and tight boo boo
Well he sold the ZS story to McMurphy last year for the sole purpose of getting Meyer and OSU in trouble (all because he was bitter about missing out on Garrett Wilson). So that could have something to do with why OSU fans think he's a PoS.
Sold as in was paid for it? Do we know this to be the case? It seems like Herman was vilified for this but boy howdy that is a big leap to make.
1) Lose Garrett Wilson
2) Sell information (?) to Brett
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Well if Meyer had lost his job over that recruits would've decommitted from OSU in droves (with Garrett possibly being one of them) and Herman would've been right there ready to poach them since OSU recruits out of Texas a lot. Also ZS was the one who recruited Garrett and Zach and Herman have massive beef with each other that is unrelated to football. Couple that with Herman seeming like the type of guy who holds grudges and I absolutely think he did it. And fuck him for that. I'm no fan of ZS, don't get me wrong but Herman is a lying snake in the grass and always has been.
I mean, that's just like your opinion man, but short of McMurphy saying Herman's wife was the person who alerted him (which is news to me), everything else is just implications and assumptions.
I just don't get that riled up about a guy on a personal level but that's just me.
There's also evidence out there that the Hermans loaned CS money on multiple occasions. That's a little suspicious in and of itself.
Mcbuttmunch and titty bar Tom at it again. Morons.
Hmmm. Corey Dennis gone yet? If not slam on the brakes. Dennis does the QB development and Day calls plays?
The soldier is my son. The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.
Honestly, this makes some good sense. I'd also suggest making Brian Hartline a co-coordinator along with Kevin Wilson. Hartline's earned a raise and he's very football smart.
Another option would be Brian's brother Mike -- who played QB for Kentucky and had a cup of coffee in the NFL. A sharp dude who would make another excellent young recruiter who may stick around for a while. Mike is currently the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks coach at Ohio Dominican University.
ODU to OSU is a huge jump. How has ODU’s offense been under Hartline?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
True. But he's a lot like his brother. Good leader. Personable...likely a strong recruiter. Relates well to players of today (he's 31).
Even if we don't make him co-OC.... he'd be a fine QB Coach (working with Day). I mean, Tressel had Nick Siciliano and he was basically an Advocare salesman or something. lol
Here is the 2019 stat page for ODU:
I don't know their talent level etc., but these are solid if not spectacular stats. It seems to be a balanced offense.
So is Youngstown State to Ohio State but that worked out pretty well.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Oh, please. Don’t give me that weak ass bullshit. Tressel won national championships at FCS YSU. Mike Hartline is the OC at a D-II college that plays against the likes of Ohio Valley University, Kentucky Wesleyan and Tevecca Nazarene University, whatever the heck that is. If you think running an offense that puts up a paltry 329 yards and 28 points per game qualifies him to make the leap to OC for Ohio State, I’m selling a bridge in the Sahara that I’d like you to take a look at.
I wasn’t calling for Mike Hartline to make the jump to OSU’s OC, Iowa, to be clear.
He could be a quality control coach OR a QB coach (because let’s face it, Ryan Day is the OC & QB coach). He’s better than Nick Siciliano.
Mike is a talented guy and I think would add to the staff like his brother did, esp. in recruiting.
For the record, my response was to PhillyNut suggesting Hartline from ODU OC to OSU OC as being even remotely comparable to Tressel going from YSU HC to OSU HC.
I thought that might be the case. Just wanted to clarify my original opinion, though I was a bit unclear in that. I mean, there are some young brilliant minds out there and Day could make anything work ... because he’s really the OC & QB coach... a lot like Tressel.
Mike Hartline already spent a couple years as an offensive QC coach at OSU. Back in 2015-16 I believe. He would not have worked with Day or Wilson, or anyone still on the offensive staff for that matter. I think it is doubtful he would be a QB coach candidate without true FBS recruiting experience.
But with the obvious connections he has on staff, who knows...
Maybe if you actually knew what you were talking about youd make sense. Yurcick iS NOT the OC he is a position coach. Day calls the plays Hiring a young coach who you are pretty sure can recruit to help with the development in the QB room is NOT entrusting the OSU offense into his hands. GEESH
You WIN with people.
Talk about not knowing what you’re talking about. How do we know Mike Hartline can help with recruiting? Where’s the evidence of that? Because he’s coaching kids at The Ohio Dominican University who wouldn’t even be walkons at The Ohio STATE University?
Also, Yurcich’s title is passing game coordinator and quarterback coach, which puts him halfway between OC and a position coach and stuck in career purgatory on Ryan Day’s staff.
Corey Dennis promoted to replace Yurcich, Mike Hartline brought in to Dennis' old position. This would allow M. Hartline to essentially get his feet wet after a massive jump from DIII to a top FBS team and not get overwhelmed immediately.
DII, but honestly mistake. I have a hard time seeing Ohio State hiring a guy like that to become an actual coach. Most times, you have to work from quality control/GA into a position like that. D2 to Ohio State is not a completely different sport but I can’t imagine it’s very close.
Brian Hartline: Promotion of responsibility to Co-Coordinator & WR
Corey Dennis: WR Coach
Mike Hartline: Quality Control Coach, Offense
You are an idiot. Corey Dennis is some ex-WR walk on who got that job only because he married Urban Leyer's daughter.
Day hired him because he married Nikki Meyer? That’s an interesting theory.
Everyone has great things to say about Dennis, especially Haskins and Fields.
I’m legitimately starting to wonder if Corey Dennis stole your girlfriend or something at some point. All of this hate when he has clearly been a productive and valuable member of the staff is mind blowing.
You really think he’s had a girlfriend?
I would say he's had one or two...
the one on the left is named Jill and the one on the right is named Rosy.
Her name is Palmela Handerson and she doesn't take kindly to getting her name wrong.
Toodleoo, go with god, and don't take any wooden nickels.
I'm sorry but I feel like you said "Pamela Handerson". Lousy upvote button only works once!
She goes by Pam because she keeps things from getting sticky...
Hey Tom he's not Yurcich he's ourcich
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Trusting Day all the way.
Owning. skunk. weasels. Is. Tradition.
I really don't understand why anyone would want to go work for Tom Herman. You will probably be out of a job after next year. Herman might be a decent coordinator but hes an awful head coach. Same as Kirby Smart.
Yurcich is an overpaid analyst imo so if he bolts good luck to him I guess..
Maybe, based on what Andrew said -- this is more of a "suggestion" by Day to seek new employment. Sounds like Yurcich isn't easy to get along with and Day is gonna make sure his coaches fit the culture he's developing here. I think he cares more about togetherness/teamwork than Urban did.
Not saying youre wrong, but OC and playcaller at Texas is a pretty big opportunity for Yurcich.
It depends on how much Texas Tom will meddle. And it depends on if Texas Tom keeps his job after next season. I think co-OC at OSU opens more doors. But it sounds like Yurcich moving on may not be entirely volitional.
FWIW I also know this has been making the rounds in the coaching carousel rumor mill and I was told it's one of the things Georgia was using against Ohio State in the recruitment of C.J. Stroud.
Well, that didn't work out well for Kirby.
Being Kirby does not work out well for Kirby.
Kirby (not so) Smart?
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Have you heard the Day "suggested" Yurcich look around? Because...I don't see Day keeping a guy around who messes with the culture he's trying to build. And if Yurcich doesn't fit - he can go - especially because Day is the REAL OC & QB coach himself.
My personal opinion (based on what I've been told at least) is that this is exactly what's going on.
Sort of like Everett Withers and his "promotion" to JMU.
Promotion with a paycut gave that away...
"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra
I thought it was weird he was being hired as just a passing game coordinator when we had Day and Wilson already. But it also seemed a bit odd that he was the OC and then came to us a half step lower... I trust Ryan knows what he wants and what he is doing
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
As a first time HC Day A-had the spot on his staff open and B-probably needed to figure out how to delegate his time between QB prep/offensive scheming and overall HC duties. I’d say he is comfortable in the balance he has struck.
So you're saying the Buckeyes are now 2-0 versus UGA, QB decision.
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2-1. Thanks, Dwan Mathis.
lmao at Georgia.
Ryan Day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time.
Andrew, any intel on the defensive coaching search?
Think all the reports on Coombs being the guy are 100 percent accurate. Just gotta get it done.
So we should be rooting for the Texans next week?
I know I will be.
Could Coombs come in prior to the championship game?
One thing I would love if Coombs does come back is he’s likely going to stay for a while and no more one and done from the position coach of the corners/DB’s. Think that could help with recruiting big time corners tremendously.
If we get Coombs he's likely to stay at OSU as long as Fickell is at UC. Once Luke takes a job I can almost guarantee Coombs is on the short list for UC.
I personally think Fickell has a different job by the end of next season.
Wouldn’t be shocked to see a Kelly/Fickell trade after next season.
This has crossed my mind as well. And then maybe Freeman back to Ohio State (plus whoever for the secondary).
You make an excellent point which is why I’m not a big fan of Coombs being the guy to replace Hafley. If Fickell does leave for a bigger job in a year or 2 Coombs will definitely be on the short list. Day needs to bring in guys who will stay for the longer term and bring stability to the coaching staff and program
Coombs was born in 1961. Would it make sense for UC to hire a coach with no HC experience who is/almost 60? If they get him back, my guess is that he stays until retirement
While I wish that every beloved coach would stay forever, the way of the world nowadays is/has always been to keep moving up. Rare to find coordinators worth their salt, not willing to take the leap to being the head man. I like that coach Day says that it’s his job to find the BIA, not only in player talent, but also coaching talent.
Personally I just don’t see Coombs taking a head coaching job right now or down the road. I think he likes being an assistant and really just focusing on his guys. That’s just me though.
Also wonder if Cincy would pass on a young guy already on staff for Coombs. Not saying they should or shouldn’t just wondering. I also wonder how much fickell wants to leave. He loves Ohio, there’s no pressure, and he can just do his thing.
I was told it's one of the things Georgia was using against Ohio State in the recruitment of C.J. Stroud.
Kirby Smart is an absolute, unadulterated, dyed-in-the-wool buffoon, and I will be stunned if he ever gets UGA anywhere close to a title.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Not arguing the fact that he’s incompetent, but to be fair, he was one play away from a national championship
Larry Coker was 1 play away from having 2 in a row and it turned out he was terrible without Butch Davis' players.
It would seem Day is adapting the JT school of thought on QB coaching and coordinating-I’m doing it, regardless of ostensible titles.
Coach Day seems to wear a lot of hats is that a good idea going to get burned out. Calling plays head coach and qb coach too it seems?
Reminds me of certain coach whom he replaced. He seems to be more even keel than Urban though. Lets hope he never loses to keep the stress low.
Sure hope Stroud is cool
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Did Day's last trip to see Stroud include any other coaches? Maybe this was discussed. Coach sure seems to run a very upfront program!
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
I think any QB coming to Ohio State is because of Ryan Day and not any assistant.
The private QB gurus realize this too.....
It’s not just coming from McMurphy. 247sports is reporting it too. I’m getting pissed now, not liking the one and dones. How about Day promote this guy to OC to keep him. This is gonna be an issue if more and more guys leave after only a year
You must not have read any the comments and ran to post your “pissed” response. Yikes
Read thru the comments above, you may change your mind on this one.
Pretty unworried about this honestly. I think of all the offensive coaches, Wilson is the guy we should want to hold on to. I am confident enough in Day's offense and playcalling abilities to believe a passing coach would be fairly plug and play so anyone that is a strong recruiter would be good by me.
Gettin real sick of your crap, Tom Herman.
Seems like Texas has become the isle of misfit former Ohio State assistants.
My mom always told me, if the best thing you can say in a forum discussion is "Fuck Brett McMurphy" then don't say anything at all.
No other comment needed from me here.
I disagree. I would be in favor of that comment being auto-populated into every thread. There is never a time when it is inappropriate.
Not sure you got what I was doing there...?
As long as Wilson stays.
Day, Wilson, and Hartline. Those guys leading the offense in play calling and recruiting is what is going to make the offense great.
If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!
Good opportunity to show Beian Hartline how much he is appreciated. Raise and bump of responsibility. I'd love for him to learn enough to eventually be our OC.
Funny how there's been no chatter on this board about Yurcich leaving until today, when BM reports it. And now it's gospel, and suddenly he's prickly to work with. WTF. Does this mean he's in active negotiations with Texas, it's just a rumor, or what?
After reading through the comments, no issues on my end (not that it matters).
Seems Coach Day has a firm grasp on the pulse of the program. Would also like to believe that if this is being suggested by Day, then he also has another person(s) in mind that he thinks would be a better fit.
Hafley is a much bigger loss. Honestly after that, this news w Yurcich just makes me think, “hey, we got Ryan F’n Day!” Yurcich really seemed like a bright guy coming in, but if Day “encourages” a coach to leave - I’m all for it. Better than leave, than hang on and create waves/issues.
Day is building an Empire; I’m convinced of it. He doesn’t just want to win Championships - he wants to lay waste to the landscape. I really think he wants to set a new standard. We’re luck to have him. In Day I Trust.
A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him, complacency keeps him asleep.
Isn't really a loss. Might be the least important member of the staff with Day being a qb coach himself. Wilson and Day are the minds behind this offense and Justin will have a ton of experience heading into next season. New hire is important for development of CJ or Jack though. Much more concerned about the loss of Hafley than this.
In Urban we trust
Don't get the downvotes for the op. Shooting the messenger.
I didn’t DV — but there is the fact the post is just a tweet from a hack smutmonger that most of us don’t want to see or hear from again.
Probably could of used a better journalist or a real journalist for that matter. But the topic is legit.
Ok. Cool Hook em...
Based in comments above, this answers my question of what we haven't seen Yurcich do many pressers. There must have been some buyers remorse by Day after seeing what transpired over the course of the off-season and current season.
Hopefully, whatever the case is, it doesn't care hurt the team in this stretch run.
I am hearing Brian Kelly will be named the Jets Coach at the end of the season, which then means Urban Meyer will be named the Head Coach of ND by the middle/end of January. BK has a great relationship with Jets ownership, which tried to to get him last year, before the Gase hire. Fickell will be on the short list to replace Ryan Day in 3 to 5 years, although, I dont think he would get the job.
my mutiple "sources" are telling me that none of this is true
If hes wanting to go to Texas , more power to him , he must not be that bright after all , let him go . Im sure Day has a list of people hes probably already called if its true , we wont miss a beat.
Damn forgot all about Bert McMouth...(that was a blessing )...he's a piece of shit...must still be lap dance tom's wing man...now that was one hell of a combo...hitting the titty bars in C-Bus...Fuck Bert McMouth...Go Bucks
Some of you just need to let last year go. You sound like dumb 12 year olds with your word play insults. You drag down the entire fan base with your shit.
mcmurphy made some questionable at best journalistic choices and I get the hate, but much like tat gate taking down tressel at just the right time, we’re likely in a better place now with day. Who we would have lost had urban stayed.
My problem with McMurphy was he didn’t let things go after Smith was fired. Yes, as usual, Ohio State ended up coming out better in the long run. But that doesn’t mean McMurphy should be off the “hook.” Not only was his whole approach to the Zach Smith shady to begin with, he went out of his way to try and take down Meyer with no regard to anyone but trying to revitalize his shitty career. When he was unsuccessful in taking Meyer down, he put out the whole sex toy article. No reason for this kind of shit. As if Smith’s kids weren’t going through enough embarrassment, this article gets put out there when Smith was already fired. The goal of this trash was to harm Meyer when all it did was pour salt of the already gaping wound of the Smith kids.
When Meyer was still the coach in November, he wrote another trash article accusing Smith of using the n word which was debunked immediately and he even accused Trevon Grimes mother of exaggerating her cancer...
when you are as shitty a person as McMurphy is, I’m never letting that shit go...
See, that’s a reasonable take and I won’t argue that. I’m talking about the “gurrr, mcfuckface can go eat a case of herpes rats, gurrr..”
most people hare him because they worship at the altar of urban. And like I said, hate him, you do you. But I’m not giving him that space in my brain.
and bad, indefensible choices aside, Zach and Courtney should be doing better at protecting their kids.
Texas Tom sends this message t
o Ohio State fans.
Tom proving that he is Mensa-worthy? They should kick him out.
Maybe he's just trying to do a Hook 'em horns sign and hasn't figured out you can actually do it with one hand? The guy isn't too bright.
Santa: please bring us this guy as our new QB Coach!
Thank you from Buckeye Nation. :)
If Yurcich were to take the job at Texas, who would be some of the potential candidates to replace him as our QB coach or possible co-OC apart from Corey Dennis?
He reported this in between slamming lines and shotgunning stolen gatorades with Tom at a strip club in Austin.
Should hire Quincy Avery as the QB coach
I like the way you think.
Gotta love it.
Why exactly do people hate Tom Herman so much?
You forgot the italics, right?
Ohio State > *ichigan
Urban > Hairbaugh
Can't speak for anyone else, but my reasoning is 2 fold. First, him trying to hide in the shadows and sick Burt McMurphy on the OSU program because he was mad we were taking all the best talent in Texas. Second, the negative recruiting school he went to with James Franklin. The rest of his ineptitude like getting beat up by sledgehammers, flipping off LHN like a jackass, trying to fight Mike Gundy in the middle of a game, losing to Maryland twice.......etc is really entertaining though.
First, him trying to hide in the shadows and sick Burt McMurphy on the OSU program because he was mad we were taking all the best talent in Texas
Do we know this to be the case? This was sort of the question behind my question as I get there is a lot of association going on between Meyer's eventual 'retirement' and Herman's involvement in the early stages.
Burt finally was forced to admit that Michelle Herman was his source. As for motive, he just watched ZS pull a 5 Star stud WR from his own backyard. Not sure it was a coincidence given all the allegations were years old when Burt reported them.
Ok so now we are saying two different things. We got sold a bill of goods that Shelly didn't know stuff that Urban had going on, doesn't Herman deserve the same? that perhaps his wife went off the reservation and did this on her own?
It seems like a TON of implying with little else to back it.
So Michelle went to McMurphy because she was upset that ZS secured a commit from a stud WR in Tom's backyard? She did this behind Tom's back? I guess we could try to believe that. Tom admitted to giving cash to Courtney Smith though, so that throws a wrench into his plausible deniability. We're also ignoring everything Zach has said about this in his Podcast where he completely implicates Tom Herman and McMurphy. Zach Smith should have meant nothing to the Hermans in 2018. He and Courtney were divorced and had both moved on, though the child custody was still messy but thats the nature of them. Not sure why the Hermans, or one Herman, needed to get involved outside of their own self interests. You could try to argue they were acting in Courtney's best interest, but cutting off her 5 figure monthly child support/alimony checks was an interesting way to go about it.
So Michelle went to McMurphy because she was upset that ZS secured a commit from a stud WR in Tom's backyard? She did this behind Tom's back?
I feel like that is what is being stated, and yes I agree its unlikely especially over recruiting. Maybe it was actually over....I don't know...actual spousal abuse?
We're also ignoring everything Zach has said about this in his Podcast where he completely implicates Tom Herman and McMurphy
I will proudly continue to ignore everything Zach Smith has said, is saying, or will ever say.
You could try to argue they were acting in Courtney's best interest, but cutting off her 5 figure monthly child support/alimony checks was an interesting way to go about it.
Is that what it boils down to for you? They aren't acting in her best interest because they were part of the reason her '5 figure monthly child support/alimony checks' got cut off? Hey Courtney, sorry you might be getting the shit kicked out of you on the reg, but man that cash has to be nice.
The alleged abuse was over 3 years prior to all this though, so even if you take Courtney at her word (She's about as credible as Zach) there was no reason for the Hermans to step in now. Maybe it was a coincidence that they finally acted right after Zach pulled Garrett Wilson though, I tend do doubt it but I admit its possible.
Ignoring Zach isn't a bad idea, hard to give him the benefit of the doubt given how douchey he comes across. That doesn't mean he's lying though, problem is you have to decide to trust 1 trainwreck or the other here.
From the Herman's perspective? Yes, thats what it boils down to. Otherwise they wouldn't have waited until 2018 to act. So they apparently tried to help their friend, or she did alone, by getting Zach fired and cutting off the main source of income for Courtney and the kids. That really makes no sense given by Courtney's own admission she was in no danger from Zach Smith in 2018. Kind of opens the door for an ulterior motive on the part of the Hermans.
Maybe Tom and Michelle are actually great people who were just trying to do the right thing here, that would seem to be a deviation from their behavior in almost every other public spectacle they've made though. From belittling people for not being Mensa,to trying to fight opposing coaches and flipping off the world on live TV, we've seen these 2 take the douchebag route more often than not so I have no problem believing they did this for their own self interests.
How does clemson keep all of their assistants? Since we've played them in the Orange Bowl in 2013, they still have the EXACT same staff today, except two people, who had relatively insignificant roles as a strength coach and a RBs coach I believe. Meanwhile, we only have 3 guys on the staff currently that were there in 2013, and even 2016.
They just lost 2 in the past couple weeks, Venebles has some skeletons apparently that keep him from HC jobs.
They did just lose their OC to USF but your point certainly holds true on Venables.
Well, no info has come out anymore on this for a couple days? I assume it could be because of Christmas or Ohio State is trying keep it under wraps to not cause more distraction.
Some part of me wonders if this is another bs move from Herman to cause distraction before the semi-final game, especially with the way we continue to raid Texas in recruiting even after Urban left.
Can our coaches just concentrate on the task at hand???
Uh, they are. I haven’t heard anything out of Ohio State to suggest otherwise. You do realize it was a reporter who started the story?