Full respect to Clemson and their offense, yet eager to see the Bullets rise to the challenge.
Looking forward to see what Hafley and company dial up to counter the Tigers - hoping to see an aggressive, yet smart, defense take center stage.
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The key here is not the OSU defense. Clemson can score; has all year, and has all the weapons, elite weapons, as Bronco Mendenhall emphasized. Given how quickly Lawrence reads the D alignment pre-snap, and how quickly he reacts post-snap, and how quickly he releases the ball, Chase cwill unfortunately not be a key factor.
The key will be the OSU offense. Fields, Dobbins, Hill, Olave, and Garrett must score early and often in a boat race, if you will. The Clemson D line is small and can be manhandled, so the Clemson LBs will be stepping forward to help out. Fields passing over their heads on slants and crossing patterns will be effective.
Also an effective match-up would be OSU's TEs getting behind All-America LB Simmons and the other eager LBs after chipping them. The TEs Ferrell and Ruckert can rumble for big gains. I envision multiple-TE sets both to block attacking LBs and to catch passes behind them.
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I respectfully disagree on the Chase not being a factor.
I mean, you can make him a non factor by running an offense like Wisconsin and Michigan did, but that would entail 2 wide receiver sets and a rb kept in for blocking. The four wideouts they use in the examples above will not work with Chase in there. He will not give trevor time to look for a reciever except the quick slants, and those get shut down once the receiver gets popped in the mouth a few times in the 1st half. The TE will need to be a factor for clemson if they have a chance to move on 3rd down against OSU.
If they think they can line up 4 wideouts and an X, and throw the ball downfield they are in for a rude awakening. Hoping they are overconfident, and OSU is up 2 or 3 scores (using the vision you have above) before they figure it out.
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You can disagree, and you provide good reasons, but you misread. My statement was that Chase would not be the KEY factor. Like you, I see other things playing out.
Lol, I did misread.
the only issue i have is your insistence that clemson will score in this game the way they have all year - yet, during this entire season, clemson hasn't faced one team in the top 20 - let alone top 10. the tigers are talented - but have played nobody that could test them - (although, 6-loss NC took them to the last play of the game and held them to 22 points. i think you're over-rating this clemson teams offense.
True, Buck64, I could be. Clemson had a cupcake 2019 schedule and I actually watched them struggle against NC. I could be putting too much weight on what I saw the same Clemson offense do to #1 Alabama in the championship last year. Clemson scored 44 points in just 3 quarters and then cruised to victory.
Bump and run let Chase and Co. Get home.
D has to play fast and physical. Keep them out of rhythm. NC did a good job at that and should have won.
Great article as always. Bottling up Clemson’s offense is quite the task. We are going to have our hands full. But we also have to score against a very good defense and that honestly makes me more nervous. They will bring pressure and disguise and try to confuse. We will have to execute and not turn the ball over and keep their offense off the field as much as possible. We have the talent. Gotta execute.
KJ - how does this offense compare to Deshaun Watson's championship offense?
Looking back on it, as compared to Clemson, to have worried about the Penn State, TTUN, and Wisky games, now seems laughable. Especially comparing Offenses.
Omg, agreed. This is next level. I’m very very concerned that they will figure out a soft spot a la TUN and Wiscy and then we will fall too far behind before we figure them out.
Stopping Etienne will be a tall task so I hope our LB’s don’t over pursue because he’s great with the cutback. Will be a great matchup with their O and the Bucks D but I think of our DL creates pressure we can force the QB into some bad throws.
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According to Kyle, Etienne only carries the ball an average of 14 times a game. Covering Etienne out of the backfield, (please don't assign Borland to this) and the elite receivers, Higbee and Ross, will be much more critical.
I see the important match-up being our big O-line against their undersized D-line forcing their LBs to cheat up and giving Fields the open field for quick passes.
The OSU LB corps will be the key here, IMO. If Tuf Borland is getting matched up with their receivers and backs, may be a long day for the OSU defense.
We've heard shit like that all season and Borland has more than held his own.
Borland is slower than most O lineman. He isn't going to be asked to cover Etienne.
You see, that's just another shit exaggeration. He runs 4.7 and Olineman aren't that fast. Who do you think should cover, Browning? He's still looking for Coan with broken ankles. Coaches know what they are doing.
I'd be really surprised to see him on the field that much because of how many receivers they like to use. Nothing against Borland, he tends to be a more traditional LB geared to stop the run game, and the coaches don't seem to use him as much when a team wants to pass a lot like Clemson. They'll probably replace him with and extra DB or safety I'd suspect.
Borland has been used more against run-heavy offenses and early in series during "run" downs. He hasn't been used this year to cover backs or receivers, that job falls on Werner primarily.
And Borland has rotated with Browning, with Browning getting as many if not more snaps.
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It's time to show the college world just how dominate the Buckeye's really are. Let's not only win the game let's shut them out. GO BUCKS !!!!
Shut out? I wish. Don't we all.
Altho' our D is better than anything in the ACC, given the elite offensive talent of both teams, this game will be a boat race to the finish.
I think both teams have good enough defenses to slow each other down, so I'm not sure I agree about "boat race." To me boat race implies that the only thing stopping either offense is them making mistakes. I agree that both teams are likely to score more points than either defense is used to giving up, but getting a few key defensive stops could be just as important as who makes more mistakes on offense.
Yes, you're right, I did overstate that.
But if it read that maybe there's a good possibility that each team has quite the potential to be almost unstoppable in continual scoring on the other team except for the chance of unforced errors... could we read to the end?
then how did north carolina hold clemson to 22 points?
What people need to realize is that the UNC game was over 2 months ago...they have improved dramatically since that game. Minimize big plays and we can win. Give up 3+ 30 yard scores, it gets much harder.
and what you need to realize is that ohio state has been tested MULITIPLE times this year by TOP 10 competition - and has not had a nail-biter against a good team - let alone a 6-loss team. i want to see clemson stop our offense. and i want to see clemson receivers try and run routes that will take longer than 2.5 seconds. you're giving clemson too much credit.
really most of what I am seeing are a lot of missed assignments... our defense is better coached than that. I think Clemson will move the ball and have some success but not near what they are used to.
Yeah, I'm LESS afraid of Clemson after reading this and seeing "highlights"...absolutely pitiful tackling by opposing teams makes their running back look good. And the "all world" receivers aren't even getting separation from the bad DB's they play against. The bad DB's are there, they just don't get their hands through the receivers arms. We don't have that problem.
Stop abandoning the running backs.
I guess you didn’t see how we tackled in the first half of the Michigan and WI games? Or more accurately, how we didn’t.
name a game we went down to the last play of the game against any team -let alone one as bad as north carolina?....take your time and look up the stats - i'll wait.
Thats a good way to put it. just less. they're still a real good team. What I was meaning more so than the poor tackling was being out of position. There were a few miss movements pre-snap, a few poor LB reads and Etienne went unaccounted for in a lot of those bigger plays. I just don't see that happening when we play them.
I can’t read any more of these I’m just ready to sit on my couch and watch em line up and hopefully see our guys smack the shit out of them!
This will be a monumental task indeed, but if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. I don't think it's realistic to believe that the Buckeye's defense is going to "Shut down" the Clemson offense, but if they are stout against the run and apply pressure on the QB they can slow them down and hopefully force some turnovers. They also need to win the time of possession and have success running the ball. If they can do that it will open opportunities in the passing game.
Seems like C's passing offense is built on throwing a lot of 50/50 balls and letting its amazing receivers make plays. To my eyes, which are in my body sitting on a couch not playing football, this seems like a lazier approach than running good routes. I wonder if this tactic will be what C shows in the semifinal match up and further wonder if it will not be as successful against the OSU DBs. I feel like the OSU DB's will be able to break up a few more of the 50/50 balls than DB's from GaTech, etc.
That's a great point. All of our secondary will be playing in the NFL. Let Lawrence and company throw those 50/50 balls. We'll have 3-4 interceptions. That's providing he can throw the ball at all having Chase and Co. in his face all day.
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Clemson would likely come down with a few TD's in that situation as well, but I think they are going to get their points one way or another. If they choose a path that cedes us a couple of INTs to compensate, that could be the difference in the game.
When you have a pair of 6'4 receivers they really aren't 50/50 balls. Besides, all QBs make throws in which you trust the receiver to make a play, which Ohio State does with Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson I might. You see it with Burrow and LSU also. They are more like 75/25 balls when you have NFL level talent at WR, and not lazy offense IMO.
I mean this is basically what bama players said about clemson. Lawrence threw it up and receivers made plays. Thats why you recruit great receivers and I think Lawrence is much better than he was in that game.
I don't think anyone doubts the talent Clemson has, but imagine parsing film and tendencies for OSU against playing Miami of Ohio or FAU every single week. What does really tell us? Virginia was the best team Clemson faced all season. I know that if the roles were reversed, and it were OSU with the schedule they played, the only narrative would be that we haven't been tested (as it was the narrative up to PSU), and our boards would be filled with fear and doubt. Perhaps the arrogance of Clemson and their fans won't allow them to be that introspective, but I see these clips and I can't help but think to myself "yeah, but those plays don't happen because they don't move past the line of scrimmage." There were very, very few missed/arm tackles (thank God) this season by the Silver Bullets. I think Etienne, Lawrence and company are in for a very long day, the sort they gave us a few years ago.
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I read the first half and felt like Clemson was unbeatable, and read the second half thinking we can totally beat them. What a wild ride.
As a friendly Clemson visitor, this is an awesome article, really well done.
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No doubt. This is also what we live about 11W, we get premium content like that for free. Most sites make you pay for premium content like this.
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you're right - and i know i'm grateful for all of the good articles.
I keep thinking how our offensive line has yet to let us down in the 3rd and 4th quarters of all the games that mattered this year. First half we might struggle, okay.. Clemson has legit talent.. but if the Slobs can lean on Clemson's D Line and LB's and open up running lanes for JK and maybe Justin.. That may end up being the key to victory in a tight matchup. Can't wait for kickoff.
We need to start the game strong, finish strong, and play well in between, and then we should be in good shape. Go Bucks!
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Thanks Kyle. They sure do have a lot of weapons.
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Too much time and too tall receivers. The reason most of these teams seem to have lost is they didn't have the skill or talent to hurry this offense and TL, and their secondary looked a foot shorter than Clemson's WRs.
Clemson's offense hasn't quite faced a defense as great as Ohio State's though and we don't have to be concerned with Big 10 refs making the dumbest calls in the country.
The game still worries me though. Clemson has talent especially on offense there's no question about that.
It's interesting that Etienne gets so many yards after contact and they mentioned it in the article, it means he has to face contact on a lot of his runs which means defenses are getting some push up front.
Definitely need to line Young up at different positions and take advantage of the weaker parts of Clemson's O'Line. Getting pressure on Lawrence early will be a huge help.
It always seems impossible until it's done.
While it is true that Clemson has not faced the toughest of schedules, they have done exactly what one should do against weaker opponents - crush them. They are very talented and well coached. With that said, I believe that Ohio State is better this year and that the Buckeyes will cause Clemson many problems. Ohio State will win this sledgehammer game.
This is gonna be a slugfest. I am thinking something along the lines of the '14 Sugar Bowl.
Through the heart of the south... Crush the soul of Dixie again? I can get down with that.
There is no doubting Clemson’s skill position speed and dynamic play making ability for by far the best QB we’ve seen this season.
That said, their O line is not great and on the other side, I believe our interior O line can move their front. So my feeling is they will need an all world performance from Lawrence to beat us.
I’m not trying to go full MGOBLOW “but they’re cheaters!” up in here but look at Travis Etienne’s photo on the Clemson roster. Dude’s facial features look like Bonds in his prime juicing days. Is what it is. OSU still has a great chance to win this game but there is no way you can convince me that Clemson isn’t systematically doping. Someone needs to get to Dabo’s ostarine guy. Go Bucks.
This is will be a tough game. In the words of Omar "when come at the king you best not miss". Clemson is the king of college football right now.. Lets not miss the opportunity to take them down a peg.
Not to mention, Dabo has the most punchable face in CFB. I would love to be the team to take them down.
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If Clemson wins it all this year, gotta think the new formula for winning a title will be having a schedule as physically and competitively light as possible to keep everyone fresh and healthy and then show up big time for final two games. I know that Clemson is a great team, but while our starting QB, our top corner, another great corner, and others on our unit have battled injuries suffered while facing top 20 offenses and defenses over the last month, Clemson has no such worries. Whatever the outcome on December 28, concerned that we go into it less than 100% in key areas, and it pisses me off that they spent their whole season playing Northwestern/Maryland/Nebraska every week, while we took our licks against a real schedule.
if Clemson wins it all, to me it will only prove that teams can win titles by sparing themselves any serious tests (and the injuries it usually brings) until the semifinals.
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With a weaker interior Oline, fully expect Clemson to attack the edges using both passing and run plays with Etienne. The LBs need to play extremely well. Harrison, Browning, Borland and Werner will have to bring their A game.
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I am not sold on Clemson's offensive line. They have not faced a player as dominant as Chase Young and cannot replicate it in practice either. The ability for OSU to cycle lineman on defense is going to be interesting. Cornell, Hamilton, Landers, and Togiai will not be easy to stop especially if Clemson tries running their 4 receiver sets.
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Clemson's OL will not have seen anything like what the Buckeye's DL is capable of bringing. Unless it's in practice against their own guys. The DTs will need to be in the backfield ALL DAY and the rush lane integrity will have to be perfect all game long. If the Front Seven can stop the run and allow the secondary to get comfortable, I think the Silver Bullets will hold them under 31. If they can...OSU has a REAL chance to win.
Can't give up five sacks -Five! WTF!- like vs Wisc. That is abysmal defense. And . . . . it's DANGEROUS!: The more sacks given up, the greater the potential for 1) a game-ending injury to Fields (it's how his knee was injured in the first place) , and, 2) turnovers. If I recall correctly, Fields coughed it up twice, once when being sacked, vs Penn State (and one which negated what would have been a TD); and once vs Wisconsin. Shit happens, i.e., sacks and fumbles, but if duplicated vs Clemson, it could be a shitty day for the Buckeyes.
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The most standout thing for me watching that acc champ game was just how poor uva tackled--i mean it was a terrible display that otherwise looked to be for a while and could've been a competitive game. You can see the crp on display in Kyle's gifs.
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So hard to take anything away from this, just watching their opponents lines and tackling is laughable. Clemsons Oline gets blown up a lot and every team has pushed them up the middle on offense
#80 was holding big time on that first video! I'm guessing this is the strategy the will use to slow down Chase.
I really hope we can win this game I have my doubts. Only because the media purposely gave them fuel to win again because ESPN is with the sec and ACC, so they purposely are constantly saying they don’t play anybody to fire them up, so I’m nervous because now they feel disrespected and want that marquee win. Just win this buckeyes we can’t go 0-4 they’ve disrespected us mocked our players laughed and clapped when they found out they were playing us With there scum bag fake Christian Hill billy cheating coach, go out and win!!! GO BUCKS!!!
Clip #1: UVA has shit tacklers. And that's the "2nd best" team in the ACC.
Clip #2: What is UVA #91 doing?
The other clips to me mostly highlight defenses that simply can't match Clemson's athletes. And once the inferior defenders make a bad read on an "option" play or get juked by the ball carrier....game over.
As I see it, Clemson has a very good offensive scheme, run by a very smart QB, with elite athletes that vastly outperform the inferior competition. (and that is NOT to say Clemson is overrated...it just is what it is).
They'll get their yards and points against OSU, but IF the Bucks can play smart and wrap up to limit extra yardage...I feel confident that our elite athletes on D will definitely keep us in the game.
12 days to go, with plenty of things to help pass the time in between. Go Bucks.
How does this offense run when they have to double and triple team number 2? I can't help but wonder how Young's presence will impact their play calling. It seemed that the two teams who had limited success (UM and UW) went away from tendencies, and took what we gave them. OK, Clemson will too. I get that. What I am wondering is if they will still be able to sustain drive after drive after drive, or if this will be another game where the offense looks good for two quarters, thanks to chunk plays, but then gets worn down at the LOS, and shut down in the third quarter.
If you can't block him, read him. I'd imagine they'll try to find Chase every play and make him the option man.
Thanks Kyle. So, the chess move here is moving him around pre-snap. Your move Dabo...
T. Lawrence is an incredibly accurate passer with a great offensive line and great receivers. We need to have our great defensive attack pressure that young man and make him pass on the run or.to avoid a sack. If we keep him and them frustrated and off balance we will be in a hell of a fight. Our talent is as good as theirs. Our coaches are better. That's the deciding factor. Feeling slightly confident but still a bit worried.
On every read option play, Ohio State has to hit Lawrence whether he hands the ball off or not.
After watching those clips I don't think the Bucks should even bother making the trip to Arizona...
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I feel like Clemson is Indiana on steroids; as it pertains to the plays they run. It’s going to be a banger fellas
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Lol the funny thing is they actually are on steroids which is cheating and makes a team very hard to beat, it’s basically us trying beat a NFL team.
Interesting how often a member of Clemson's OL is downfield in those plays. The RPO game would be much less effective if refs actually called it according to the rules. The same thing with the lack of holding calls. Have to think at some point the refs decided to lighten up on calling penalties for the sake of explosive offenses/entertaining games.
Damn, I really want to see these guys get their asses handed to them. Come on Silver Bullets
Apologies if I missed it in this dialogue, but what I the hell is the Clemson offense going to do about CY2?
Kyle answered a comment: make him the option guy and play off him.
If the key to this game is Clemson’s o-line I like our chances. If we can put enough pressure on Lawrence so he has to get rid of the ball quickly then it could be a long day for them, play them tight, disrupt their timing and give them no time to pass. Etienne out of the backfield causes problems, but not when he’s running. All about pressure.
Good stuff. As a Clemson fan, if I were going to quibble with something, it'd be this:
One reason Etienne leads the nation in yards after contact is the amount of penetration allowed at these spots, as defenders often seem to win their one-on-one battles with center Sean Pollard (#76) and guard Gage Cervenka (#59).
I don't think the stats bear that out. Etienne is averaging 2.7 yards before contact. Among the top 10 RBs (based on total yards), that's exactly the median YBC. For reference, Dobbins is at 3.1 YBC and Taylor is at 2.5 YBC.
His broken tackle % of 42.9 also leads the nation. And that's not necessarily a volume driven stat.
Not saying Etienne will have a field day - far from it - but I don't think his broken tackle numbers are simply indicative of more systemic penetration.
That's fair, but my point was not to diminish Etienne but rather to show that there are weak spots across the Clemson OL. In every game I've watched (A&M, UNC, SC, UVA so far), there have been multiple instances of the C & RG giving up penetration in both the run and pass games. I believe that is the spot in which OSU must take advantage in order to win this game. It won't be because Chase Young was unblockable, Clemson is too good to let that happen. But if OSU wins it will be because Davon Hamilton or Jashon Cornell were living in the backfield from their tackle spots.
I know it seems like forever ago, but there are a lot of players that were a part of the team when we took that loss in the playoffs. I think they are eager to get this team pumped for some payback. Players who were on the team for the Fiesta Bowl
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We are more physical and just as fast. I think we play the first half even or slightly ahead and then dominate the second half. That is what we do against top ten teams (ok except for BCC 1st half.)