Scary they are 3 without him. Just another guy that can defend 3 positions and rebound and run the floor.
Holtmann last hinted at a possible redshirt for him. Said he didnt have a set date to return and they'd have to consider a redshirt depending on the timetable.
Definitely think he should redshirt at this point. Missed a good amount of no conference games that kind of are tune up before big ten play. Hard to jump into playing against big ten teams when you aren’t a great offensive player. Besides, he plays basically the same role that Andre Wesson does. Rather give him a year to tune up his game and develop. Should have already redshirted his freshman year but we needed bodies badly.
Plus, I love our 8 man rotation and it’s working so well. No reason to jeopardize it by trying to give someone else minutes when we are one of the best teams in the country.
Agree with everyone you say. However, I would love to see the 8 man rotation go to 10 with Ahrens and Gaffney developing throughout the season. Ahrens has shown that he can light up any gym, and Gaffney brings lots of length and athleticism to the table. I would really be happy to see those guys become consistent offensive contributors and solid defenders as the season progresses.
Yes. Him returning, if hes ready, can only help in conference play especially. Seemed like he was finally finding the right speed to play at as the season ended last year.
Ahrens has shown he can light up any gym? Really? He has exactly one game in his OSU career where he's scored in double digits. He's a 38% shooter from 3, mostly in mop up time. He's also a defensive liability. Maybe he develops over time, but as of right now, he hasn't earned time in the regular rotation.
Gaffney is raw, but he's flashed and has a high potential - as in he's a likely future NBA player, just not yet.
One other thing - Ahrens has been scoreless in more games (17) than games in which he's scored points (15) in his career.
It's a good situation that he can take his time coming back, maybe even until next year. He's in a system that values upperclassmen.
to tell you the truth, the team has been playing so well that I sorta forgot about him.
Would love to see Ahrens come off the bench as a shooter more eoften. Every BIG team has long stretches where they can't get a bucket...need a Vinny Johnson type player.
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He did against PSU but was a little late to the turkey shoot. The good news is Luther was 4 of 5 from three, if he's finding the range that will be huge.
Holtmann's PT is based on your ability to play defense and Ahrens is still a little bit of a liability on defense at times which is why I believe he is later coming off the bench right now.
In the time he has been in games, I have not really noticed anything exceptional about Ahrens 3 point shooting. I think his PT is going to depend more on his defensive effort and in a more balanced offensive contribution outside of being a three shooter.
Ahrens is right where he belongs - on the bench.
He came in at a disadvantage, he was like 17 when his first season began. A lot of his hiccups were youth. I thought this year he would get things rolling but then the injury happened. However, I have kept an eye on him when the camera pans that way during games. He is fully engaged. If he showed a lack of interest on the bench it would worry me. Staying present and engaged is big, whether he return later this season or next year. I'm rooting for him.
Even as well as things are going for this team, I think they will certainly benefit from Musa's eventual return. The guards are playing great but Musa's size would still be helpful in the back court.
Bucks going to be #1 soon. Although with the way this year is going maybe being #1 is a bad thing.
Hoping Musa gets healthy fully before trying to come back. We see the difference between a fully healthy Kyle Young this year and a partially healthy Kyle Young last year. Fully healthy and Musa can be a big contributor, just don't come back too early.
I thought he was going to be out for up to 16 weeks when he had surgery, so a redshirt isn't out of the question. The last thing any of us want to see is a guy hurry back and not be 100% or, worse, re-injure himself.
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Yea, he needs to play, this year.
The moose is loose!
I get our logic 100% on Musa redshirting, and I agree that long term it would probably be better for us (as fans of the team), but the more I think about it... if I was in his shoes and the team is #3 in the country and I’m hurt, man I’d be so bummed at redshirting that year when it seems like it could be a really special season. Wouldn’t blame him at all for coming back, at the very least if he took his time he could be very important at the end of the year.
Would the staff want his fifth year or since recruiting has picked up would they rather use that scholly on a frosh?
Honestly, they should RS him. They don’t need him for depth this year, and if he decides to leave w/ his degree after next year...........and if they don’t RS him, so be it.......Holtman has established his rotation off the bench for this year, I doubt Jallow is going to force his way into PT in front of Wesson and Liddell.
Yea, I get it...Liddell's adapting well to the college game. But Musa has experince with conference play smash mouth basketball, and seems every team has oversized frontcourts and tall point guards this year, so having one more body thats used to this is only a plus. Damn Rutgers, Rutgers! just topped Seton Hall last night, and B1G teams on their home floor are 10-0 in conference play to date. Rough conference this year.
My response to those who think he should redshirt (even if he is healthy soon) and that Gaffney is too raw to help us this year and Ahrens is a one trick pony and too much of a defensive liability: it's a long season.
The 8 man rotation right now is fantastic. Obviously there is really nothing to complain about thus far. But the Buckeyes have 19 more Big 10 games to go, 3 more non conference games including Kentucky and West Virginia, the Big 10 tourney, and most likely the ncaa tourney. I hope we stay healthy and off the court/academic issues do not pop up. But even if we avoid serious injuries and there are no suspensions, the fatigue of a long season and minor injuries are unavoidable.
Even if you argue Justin Ahrens played one good game last season (I would argue he had 3 or 4 solid conference games), that Iowa win was crucial to the Buckeyes making the tourney. Maybe there are a handful of games in which contributions from Jallow and/or Ahrens and/or Gaffney is the difference between a win and a loss. And those couple of wins might be the difference between landing a 2 seed or a 4 seed in NCAA tourney. You never know.
Maybe these 8 guys (the 5 starters and Dre, EJ, and DJ) are the only players with major contributions in important games all season. It is definitely possible. But I would not bet on it.
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He did a great service to the team by reclassifying and entering school a year early, playing a role when he was clearly at a physical disadvantage. He has earned a pass in my book and should have a great deal of influence in the decision whether he plays or redshirts this season. Giving him an extra year to develop will only be to his benefit, he will share in whatever team accolades the team earns this season as well.
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I think that we lose both Wesson’s or at least Kaleb thinks he is NBA bound, I think he had better learn some foreign languages if he wants to play professionally. If he stays next years team with Suing and Jallow at the 3 and Kaleb at the 5 will be better than this team especially with Carton, Ahrens and all the guards having one more year experience.