Get the ball to start the second half and score.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
Yep and run it down their throats the rest of the game.
Yes. Wear their undersized asses OUT.
Overall not bad - gotta clean up the pass defense
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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That starts with the rush. Need to pressure the QB. Hes had all day back there.
That's exactly what I said before. Bring the extra man until Shea can beat you with his feet.
We need the extra man in coverage, shredding us right now. Hopefully we make some quick adjustments and fix that.
Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?
3 step drop. Can’t get to him. It’s been 7 on 7.
I will definitely take a 12 point lead to the half on the road against a rival. If we can get a little pressure on the QB to mess up their rhythm would be huge.
This team is sowing what they riep....
ok, will see myself out
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classic post. uv for sure.
I was hoping he would be a stud. Fear the Rieper
In his defense, Riep made a tackle on the sideline to save a TD. And then Arnette did the same.
For DBs just move on to the next play don't worry about the previous one.
I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.
Need to score to start the 3rd. And the defense needs to get their collective act together.
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To my eye, they are clearly picking on one person, not really the defense as a whole. Not like they're running it down our throat as well.
Maybe Wade can try to give it a go in the second half? I never did hear what was wrong with him.
Played it conservative on their last drive. Looked to me like we played some zone and some man underneath. Bottom line is we need to get a pass rush. That will change everything.
I hope Mattison has decided how he'd like to spend his retirement years.
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Alternate between being hyped and wanting to throw up. It's The Game baby!!!
"Medicine is not a science" - Leo Spaceman
Who knew that in fact, Shaun Wade is more important than Chase Young...
Frankly, I did.
Lifetime vs. UM: L 9-1, C 8-0, T 5-0
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"Our kind of families win a few more football games than others." Coach Hayes
I mean we are up 12 on the road against our rivals. I’m not sure you can say one is more needed than the other.
Fields having a sub par passing game. Michigan shredding our pass defense and we're up 28-16. Clean things ups and this is a blowout.
8 receptions 200 yards is crazy stat line for a half
this "clean things up and it's a blowout" thing is getting old already.
They've had the ball 5 times (basically) and scored TDs on 4 possessions. What more do people want?
Not giving up 500 yards on defense, for one
I hate the offseason.
Harbawww crying about Chase Young while instructing his linemen to hold him all day is pure, delicious hypocrisy.
Need to get a pass rush going and stop giving such big cushions. They're struggling to get a running game going.
They wouldn't let me go for 3.
They've figured out to beat Chase Young you just have to hold him.. it's too simple
And if you can steal his shoes.
fix the fucking pass rush at 1/2. their o line is not that good and patterson has had all freaking day to throw
Any team is going to have success if you give them that much time to throw, especially one with an experienced QB and highly talented WR corp. We’ve gotta find a way to get pressure
Yep and if you are giving up 20 yards per pass you might as well blitz a bit, you're getting shredded anyways.
If the defense can make an adjustment this game is over. Playing way too far off.
They miss wade desperately
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Pass D is the only concern (although it's a big one). Get someone in there that can cover the slot WR and we'll be fine.
But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. So much darker. And so much madder. And so much better. -Dr. Who, "Love and Monsters"
no pressure on patterson
Really want to post a Wilson vid
Save it but surprised it's not your favorite group Nickleback.
Sad but true
Maybe tuf Borland will magically become better in pass coverage by the second half
Gotta believe we've got some halftime adjustments
Held them to 3. Im happy with that. Whole different ball game if they scored 7 before the half.
Yeah - that was a HUGE stop
Werner, Borland, Riep should not see the field 2nd half. Unbelievable. Where is Cameron Brown??? He played good against MSU.
Werner is playing great. What are you seeing?
Are you trolling? Or?
Completely serious. Werner's made plays.
Werner should never be covering DPJ, period.
uh the TEs are running right past him
LCT is right. Werner has done fine, outside of one play where he was looking in the backfield and the TE released behind him.
Yep. Werner's a bright spot today by a lot.
I think Werner is playing fine. They are making some good throws and catches. I hate when everyone throws our players under the bus so easily. We do need the pass rush going and to make a few more throws and we are killing them. It's not a Werner thing at all.
To the posters giving CY shit. Hes been held all day with zero flags. When you get the chance zero in and watch him. They even pulled him by the back and nothing from the refs. B1G refs are hot garbage
Feel very good. Make a few adjustments on defense and take some certain guys out and we’ll be good. They can’t stop our offense. Also, Jk Dobbins for Heisman.
Osu Defense is just sitting back willing to give up big yards. Attack
I expect browning blitzing off the edge they cant hold everyone can they???
Beat the spread in the first half, up 2 possessions and getting the ball. Obviously plenty to clean up on D but happy with the overall scoreboard
What a fucking game. We need to run the football. They cant stop us. We are playing terrible in coverage. Young has been held 15 times.
Definitely need to clean some things up. The holds on Chase need to get called
Quiet first half from Chase Young
Understatement of the year. Give props to UM for figuring out how to chip him. Need to introduce some stunts to get to Patterson.
unless they have some other than Riep to play on D, this defense isnt stopping them. WR with no one within 15 yards all day. its absolutely insane.
Michigan successfully neutralizing our strongest defense part... the o line, we need to counter the exact same plays we ran against them last year. Quick strikes happening in two seconds. It’s the time Brady patriots offense right now
"Captain, over here, I've found someth... AHHHH!!!!!!"
You can’t rely on a 4 man rush when Chase is being doubled. You need pressure on little Shea.
They can’t run on OSU. Just need to fix the blitz schemes and pass defense and we’ll blow these little assholes away.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Okay, serious question... are our defensive hiccups a result of missing Shaun Wade, too much zone or both?
Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye
lots of zone, terrible blitz timing/not blitzing, attacking Werner and Borland
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Missing Wade likely altered the scheme, but it clearly needs some more tweaking.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
They do miss Wade, but you know, it's one guy and this is a sport where people get hurt. Not having a replacement ready in Week 12 is on the coaching staff.
They are playing a team with a pulse. This isn’t Rutgers. If they hold onto the ball in the second half and generate some pressure on passing downs they will win. But expect Michigan to attempt to make adjustments as well. This isn’t over yet.
Gonna have to figure out a way to stop Patterson , hes going to go for 400 yds today . JK doing great , Fields is calming down , JK will be carrying us in the second half , eat some time . Overall , feel pretty good
RUN THE DAMN BALL MORE PLEASE!!!
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Defense has to get pressure on the QB.
I’ll take a 12 point halftime lead with how well Michigan’s offense is playing. Great play at the end by Jordan Fuller to jar that ball loose & prevent the TD!
Offense is getting it done led by the boys up front.
If we can score to start the second half it’ll steal their will!
UM doing exactly what a smart team would do, attacking the middle over Werner and Borland. they are the weakest link.
There's a downvote jimoke on here who thinks our pass rush is just dandy, apparently
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
There are times where the worst thing that can be spread is misinformation
Halftime thoughts: Chase Young holding back so as not to embarrass the Wolverines very classy
He’s embarrassing himself at this point. He’s getting physically beaten by the Michigan OT’s.
Same dude. I watch on Hulu, so I can rewind. There should have been at least 5 holding flags, 3 of them blatant and clear as day. That tells me they dont want to throw the flag on purpose.
Keep calm and run JK
Halfley and Co are calling a TRASH game. Defense may as well do nothing. Secondary getting depantsed. Horrible effort against the pass.
Basically the reason for our defense imploding is a lack of pass rush and picking on our LBs and Wade's replacement in space.
I’m truly disturbed by our pass defense and DL pressure. I’m not sure what can be done, I only hope our defensive coaching staff figures it out
Were very lucky to not be down in this game. We have not stopped them at all. Hafley and Mattison better get this fixed or at least somewhat bandaged. We may not be so lucky in the second.
The good news is we can run and get deep on them.
Patterson is playing lights out. Could be that we don't stop him all game. But maybe late in 3rd qtr we start to break them down.
Agree. Some of those are damn good throws, we really need to get the pressure on the QB today.
Except for when we have stopped them you mean. Stupid post.
"Hail" a cab skunk weasels.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever.
Can we please play Cam Brown over Riep? Riep is fucking terrible.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
Hafley's got some adjusting to do.
Put Brown or Banks in and get Riep out.
I hate getting down on players, but when you don't belong out there, you don't belong out there. You can't give 12 yard cushion on their #1 receiver going into the endzone, and let him cross free into the middle of the endzone, when you you know it's coming to him. Good thing he pulled a michigan and dropped it.
Too many missed assignments making tiny hands look like Tom Brady
So apparently our entire defense was built upon a good pass rush and our nickel back?
Michigan is not going to run the ball. Stop the pass. Play white in the TE
28 in the first half is better than we could have hoped for, really. And it's all been work, no easy scores off turnovers in TTUN territory. But it's still a game because the D stayed in Columbus.
Back the DE's into coverage which will stop the TE and WR crosses
I’m kinda tense. Maybe more bourbon.
The bobbleheads hate the offseason.
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I don't think anyone from the defensive line has touched Patterson yet today. wtf
Pass D and lack of pressure is concerning. Need to step it up in the 2nd half.
Time for Chase to make some adjustments. Their tackle is doing well keeping him out of the game by himself now.
“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.
Press them on D. Cannot be worse than what we are seeing
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
250 yds passing for ttun.
Defense getting owned in that category.
They have given up trying to run the ball.
It's up to the "D".
The "O" is doing there job.
This "D" is not national championship caliber at the moment.
Buckeye since 1952.
TTUN is one dimensional. Pass rush adjustments and our running game should seal the deal
Easy adjustments. We have been playing four linebackers on first down. Gotta get back to a base 4-3 and get another defensive back on the field, which will help Werner and Borland free up their weaknesses against quicker TEs and slot WRs.
Speaking of Borland, we need Browning. No, I’m not one of the crazies that clamor for this all the time, but we don’t need Borland on the field to sniff out runs. We need speed in pass pro.
Otherwise, there isn’t much we can do. They’ve eaten us up in man and zone. They have arguably the best three WRs in the country; they’re going to get theirs.
Completely agree with your assessment. We need to move Annette inside and get Hilliard in the game. Start to call some blitz to get Patterson uncomfortable in passing. This’ going to be a long day I feel like.
I don't know why they don't go nickel the whole time.
They need to keep working their tails off to win. Same as its always been.
Success - it's what you do with what you've got. - Woody Hayes
Good thing we get the ball to start the third quarter.
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
I don't even think Shea has been under pressure. This cannot continue.
Hard when they arent throwing flags for holding our DL
Can’t let up on this one. The defense is looking more like last year. Got to find a way to keep containing their run game, but something needs fixed on pass rush and coverage.
No pass rush, got to change something
I don't think it's just that the defense is missing Wade. There's no pressure on Patterson and the Buckeyes are sitting in a zone. With no pressure he's picking them apart. On the other hand, when a team can't run it's not likely they can win.
I hope Day decides to run it down their throat on the first drive of the second half.
Our pass-run mix is really good so far.
Yeah, we do much better in man. I hate cushion zone.
Score right off the bat and then adjust to UM offensive scheme
I guess we need to dominate time of possession and keep their offense off the field
At some point a team with decent WRs/TE would test OSUs LBs and its happening today. Borland cannot cover one on one or cover enough space in the zone coverage and Werner has been exposed on a few big plays as well.
Give UM credit they have 3 really good WRs and TE and Patterson has been accurate.
Playing bad offensive teams all year has made this defense overrated.
Preparing for Freiermuth a week ago should have gotten them ready for facing a decent tight end.
TTUN’s QB is playing nearly perfect and you’re down by 12 at halftime.
Can't drop the football, huge turnover there.
Beyond huge. Also, jumping offsides on a punt is nearly equal to a turnover. Although the score is 12 points, this game has been equal.
Really need to make some adjustments on defense. Patterson is just picking apart our secondary. Shut him down and this game is over
Well defense? Get pressure on the qb...their receivers are all running wide open all over the field...wtf is going on? Make some adjustments
are these commentators going acknowledge Wade is out?
of course, URBAN MEYER to the rescue...
Urban to the rescue.
Urban did, but he's not cheering for one team or the other like Woodson does. Why does Fox have a homer for the home team sitting at their table?
Honestly I don't mind homers, and woodson is tolerable unlike that other fuck (what's his name? howturd or something)
If I was Harbaugh I sit Hudson the rest of the game I don't care. A Senior that's jumped offsides multiple times this year, no excuse for jumping offsides on a punt, guy is an idiot. He also wore sweatshirt with Mattison's picture during warmups, then goes out and does something stupid. Michigan had to play mistake free to win, and Patterson isn't capable of doing that. OSU pulls away in 2nd half, Michigan needed a TD that FG did nothing.
TTUN is playing very good. The game plan out plays OSU the first half.
Chase Young needs to show up in the 2nd half.
Non-factor in 1st half.
Agreed. They quit doubling him in the second quarter. If he can adjust and get into the back field this game is over.
True, but give them credit for creating a game plan to limit him. There hasn’t been many opportunities for him, as he has been optioned, chipped, cracked, etc.
This is stunning. The defense has completely transformed into a shit show over the past 7 days. They're offering next to no resistance, ZERO pass rush, DBs are LOST in coverage, and receivers are running WIDE OPEN and UNCHALLENGED. ttun moving up and down the field at will, and a lucky fumble, plus a drop in the end zone, are all that separates *ichigan from being right there on the score board. I don't know that adjustments will help. The personnel is a bit different and it's KILLING the unit. Gotta out score this team to win
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Is mostly the motion that is messing with the coverage?
Also the pass rush not getting home. We get by them they hold and get away with it.
You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight.
Move young around. Blitz on e in a while...sick back in nickel and dime defense
Yeah why aren't they doing like Wisconsin, lining him up over center or other places just to throw off their game plan. I don't get it....
Ohio State need to start bringing some pressure whether that’s a blitz or something to disrupt Patterson
I only saw them in his face for a hit one time in the first half.
We cannot let Borland and Werner cover. Needs to send Hilliard and Browning. No blitz on the defense, wtf. I read somewhere that Patterson is super poor against the blitz. Where is that game plan?
I'll take Werner over Browning in coverage all day long and at night too. Borland, love him, but he's a different story.
Pete Werner is our best cover LB by a large margin.
Took a peek at Mgo and of course they are blaming refs. Bwahahahaha
Wow just imagine if they called a single hold on their OL
For what....they have benefited the whole game from no holding being called. Good grief, they couldn’t have it any better from the officiating side.
I wonder if any thought has been put towards playing Brendan White for Werner. More of a safety so could be better in coverage...obviously coaches know best but just seems like Werner is getting picked on a bit as well as that next corner (Brown/Riep)
Rather embarrassing on defense. Clearly making quick throws to make young a non factor. Our LBs (Borland and Werner) are being exposed in the pass game. And we now realize our secondary depth is horrible. If I was Michigan, pick on Riep or the LBs in coverage.
So disappointed in the defense.
Up 12 is what matters, but Bucks are a botched snap and offsides brain fart away from trailing 23-21.
They have put absolutely zero pressure on Patterson. Not even once. they have what... 250 yds passing in one half?
If that doesn't change, this game will not end favorably
If ever we needed halftime adjustment, this is it
"The future is bright at Ohio State." - Urban Meyer 1/1/15
I think scoring on this first drive is a big deal. That's a LOT of pressure to put on TTUN to be perfect to catch up, and they've already mostly given up on running.
They're doing a good job on Chase though he WILL get through eventually. Have to credit them there though.
Coverage shows the missing link. Is what it is. We're up by 12 even with that.
Dobbins better thank that line with some steak.
Fields. You are going to be and have been a great QB in your young OSU career. Also have many areas to improve. You'll get there, not worried about that per se.
We are trying to get pressure with 4 and it’s not working. They need to dial up the blitz. We can’t let this dude sit in the pocket and throw darts.
They have picked on Wades replacement. Then Borland and Werner as well. We have played that stupid 4-4-3 which hasn’t worked at all. Surprised instead of 4-4-3 with Hilliard that we have not seen a little of Brendan White.... sorry but I will take a DB over a slow linebacker.....
Aside from 1 play, I feel that Werner has played good. The lack of pass rush, and Shaun Wade's replacement have been the 2 biggest problems that I seen.
My observations- the secondary and linebackers are playing out of position. Everyone is making up for the loss of Shaun, and we are feeling it. We need to understand that 80% of their offense is made up of the pass game..they’re not trying to run the ball.
Adjust on D. Control the ball. Don't make mistakes. We win going away.
Harbaugh is Michigan, Michigan is Harbaugh. They are together the ultimate con.
We've got to score a TD coming out of. Half. That would be a back breaker
I did not see 1 blitz looks like all dline rush, also maybe put banks in the slot instead of moving arnett in there and leaving banks on the outside?
Stop Mattison from coaching. He sucks! Right now Young no where near close of winning the Heisman
The scheme of the defense today is not good. Man up and let’s go
One more half to win for 12 months of bliss.
Mt Union in a dog fight in the 3rd Q
38 - 35 over North Central in the 2nd round of D3 playoffs
So disappointed in this defensive staff but we all knew it was coming when we play a team smart enough to attack Borland/Werner. Hate to bag on them but it’s the coaches that put them out there and watch them get totally torched by TE and RBs. Hafley should be taken off the Broyles award list.
RUN, RUN, RUN! Bring in Teague to wear them out.
I think we might cover!
My watch has no numbers .. it always reads "Time for the Buckeyes to kick some ass"
There are positives...
Interior o-line killing it, Dobbins making them look great.
A couple of nice ropes from Fields, Olave and Wilson with the big catches.
Run defense is there all day, just have to dial up some pressure on Shea and get on the same page in the back seven.
Still have a two possession lead, and get the ball to start the second half.
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That’s uniting both parties right there
Good we see Patterson doing this now. Prep for Burrow in a few weeks.
#73 is holding on every pass play
"You win with people" — Woody Hayes
Hopefully Clark Phillips is ready to ball next year. It’s really too bad we couldn’t flip Elias Ricks. The secondary next year could be...interesting.
While all the nancies cry and gnash their teeth, I'm gonna enjoy my sushi burrito.
Everyone but chase is getting 1 on 1s and doing absolutely nothing, real pathetic showing so far. Johnson needs to get his guys going
Id rather see Tyreke Smith there in place of Jon Cooper.
With the lack of pass rush, and clear weakness in the DBs without Wade, why not start throwing some blitzes in?
Ultimately, the opening drive will determine the tenure course of this game. If Bucks get 7, they can play the pass the entire 2nd half.
No knock on Borland, but I think Browning needs to play more if he's healthy. They haven't been able to run the ball and we need someone who is more athletic. But then again, I'm not making 6 figures and watching the game on my couch so what the f do I know.
Time for Mattison and Hafley to earn their pay. Zone coverage on their WR's is not working and Werner can't cover anyone. Need to start blitzing also since Patterson has all day to throw.
Guys CY has been held some but MI has controlled the whole D line. They are getting no pressure anywhere. Don’t blame it all on holding.
Absolutely it all in non holding calls. Warriner has absolutely shit down Johnsons’s d-line
Funny thing today- for all the bitching about Schiano and last years D coaches this years defense is playing far worse than last year.
And if having 1 player out is an excuse then your defense isnt that good to begin with. Clemsons defense would never be playing this bad.
Who gives a freak about Clemsons?
Clemson’s defense is playing powerhouse South Carolina today. Could be a reason why but
Buckeyes 118 yds rushing ~ 5.1 yds a carry /// ttun 35 yds rushing ~ 2.7 yds a carry.
Win the rushing battle ~ win the game ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain
Yep. This and avoid turnovers. Get one more on D and turn that into points or change of field position. 30 minutes, y'all!
Wouldn’t mind seeing White and Werner in the game with Harrison.
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TD right out the gate. D gotta step up. All the rest of the obvious stuff.
For those who think the Ohio State defense suddenly lost it -- more talent and precision in this Michigan passing game than anything the Buckeyes have faced, by far. Good route combos getting guys open and Patterson making confident throws. This is what Michigan has done lately.
— Doug Lesmerises (@DougLesmerises) November 30, 2019
Agreed. But man, we are getting zero pressure on him. On some plays he has all day back there to throw. We need to run some stunts or something. We are better than this.
I could agree with this. Thanks for posting. Tired of mysanthropes going off on the defense. Sheesh got a 12 point lead at half, in their house! Half you mother f*ckers posting here need to grab your beer and go sit in a corner somewhere, come out Tuesday morning. Sickening
Fine, but still: 250 yards in one half.
I agree, we need to damn blitz patterson. Patterson fucks up repeatedly when he's flushed and flustered. This 4 man rush is not cutting it. No team we've played has had the time to sit 3-4 seconds and go through downfield reads.
Oy, shabbot is exhausting. Take the second half kickoff to the house. Put the clamps on Patterson. Got to get my kids to bed. Lets finish this.
I would like to see Ohio State go some uptempo
We'll see what second half adjustments are made. I assume that scUX will try and run more since we might change our defense to stop the pass. We'll see.
harbaugh gas a good memory. they dropped 39 last year on #32 and #20. you can not coach up speed
If you can't coach up speed why bother recruiting speed in the first place. I think a good coaching staff should be able to improve speed so that it's running in the correct direction.
I have no problem with the refs letting them play
The need to stand up CY like a LB the way they did a few weeks ago
The only hard day was yesterday
Time for Hafley to earn his money and make some adjustments.
Guys a Broyles award semi-finalist. Should be able to handle this.
So far, so good.
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Weather will stay clear for the rest of the game.
1st series of 2H critical...control the LOS and march down the field. Break their will.
If the d-line gets pressure, the d-backs will look better.
I suspect we are going to see a very different defense in the 3rd quarter. Time to break them.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
Just as you would imagine over on Michigan Scout (Stadium and Main) they are crying about the refs and non-calls mostly on PI and holding. But many are seeing our OL dominating...
This is a point where Urban was so good. I always had confidence that Urban’s adjustments were going to be better than the oppositions. Hopefully it’s the same.
let's will these bucks to a long td drive to open the second half...
Anyone think inserting Brendon White would be the right move here?