Three Key Stats: Bucks Ran the Ball on Nearly Three out of Every Four Plays, Young is Back, OSU Lost the Turnover Battle for First Time Since Week One

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45has2's picture

Imagine the number of sacks CY would have if the refs had the sack to call holding. 

Censores irrumasti.

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TMac's picture

#ItsGreatToBeABUCKEYE

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

Absolutely ridiculous. The announcers on the radio after the game said that it felt very Shaq-like. It seemed the refs were ignoring it to even the playing field because how else is anyone supposed to stop him.

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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Berg2004's picture

Hopefully they call it in The Game.

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Silver Sniper's picture

It would be nice if OSU filed a complaint through the NCAA ahead of the game next week so it doesn’t happen again. 

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buckeyeboy68's picture

Theory- The coaching staff didn’t want to show their hand for next week & was content to just run the ball & get out of there with a W. Can’t wait for Don Brown to blitz the hell out of us & watch Fields throw for 300+ on TTUN. 

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JT's picture

scUM will not be as blitz-happy as last year.  That game will be much harder than yesterday.  We should win but can’t give the ball away three times AND must press on the gas with the offense

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a.buck's picture

I am not saying next week will be easier than PSU but i do think PSU is a better team than M. If you eliminate our funbles today the game is in the 35 - 10 range. Consider this M had a hard time matching up with Hamler against PSU and we have multiple guys with that skill set. M couldnt get Wisconsins run game off the field and our run game is as good or better than Wisconsin. Wisconsin's line is better than M and Young destroyed that game. The units that will be fun to watch will be our secondary and theor WR unit. Over all this is a huge tallent mismatch but its THE game so who knows

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huffdaddy's picture

TTUN seems to have corrected some of its defensive issues since the first half of PSU.

but I agree that if we go four wide, we can torch their slot corner and safeties, if we can hold our pass blocks.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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shiloh's picture

ttun has corrected issues vs inferior competition.

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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Max's picture

I believe it was more a combination of the weather and either seeing something on tape they didn't like about the PSU pass defense, or some minor injury to Fields.

But also, that's a very different game if we don't finale on the goal line and go up 14-0 early. They had life and hope.

A little more nervous about The Game, but unless there are 3+ turnovers next week, we should be ok.

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CrazedBuckeye24_7's picture

I felt like the ball was coming out of Field's hand a little funny. He wasn't spinning it well. Place had to come back for the ball a bit and that's not like Fields. I think the rain was a big factor for running it. Who woulda thought we'd have fumblitis.

Jeremiah 27:9

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Homey1970's picture

Here’s a “stat”.  What kind of disinformation is this?  I thought everything on the internet was true.

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huffdaddy's picture

Welp, they still couldn’t snap the ball.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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c92996p's picture

I'm kind of surprised Teague didn't get more carries, especially in the 2nd half.  I know he was total "deer in the headlights" on that one series in the first half, but I think his fresh legs could've helped in the 2nd half to take a couple carries off Dobbins and several off Fields.

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BuckInNashville's picture

I think he did come back in for one of the final series, but maybe the thought was that he had never had game action in a tight game, and the 2nd half of the division championship might not have been the place to start.

ill bet he sees much more PT next week. I know it’s sacrilege to say this, but the boys should be loose as a goose next week because, although a win eliminates any doubt, a loss doesn’t affect the BIG CG and it probably doesn’t even affect the top4 ranking. I assume ttun to climb to #11 with Oregon loss, and potentially #10 with PSU fading, since they played them tough. So a “good” loss to a top ten, the week after a win against a top ten won’t eliminate us in the eyes of the committee which refers to us as the most complete team. 

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2morrow's picture

I think because the first play he was in, he fell down cutting on a sweep and then on the second play he was penalized for motion. He was pulled at that point and not inserted back into the game until much later.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

If Day had aired it out more, especially in that weather, and Fields had thrown Pick-6s the gnashing of teeth by the butthole gallery would be louder. Like one big fart.

"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski

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analyticalguy's picture

Should have passed more (especially in 1st down) in the first half.

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58Buckeye's picture

Yeah! Maybe we could have won the game if we could have just thrown more. What was Day thinking? 

/s

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Should have passed quite a bit more in 1st half in better weather I really believe we would have put up more points..

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PRO8's picture

Yes, we averaged 3.75 yds/carry that equates to a first down for every 3 downs the ball is carried with the 4th down as a bonus try so it was not  a bad plan at all as also no matter what happens unless you run out of bounds the clock keeps running. On top of that you wear on the D,  If then they start loading the box then you can take a shot now or then.

That said I think Fields is uber careful and that is why we seen him run a lot from the pocket and that is not altogether a bad thing as it limits the other turnovers you can get. I think there were at least another 10 or more pass plays called where Fields ran. If they were stone walling the run and we didn't have an 11 point lead I might feel different. Yes you can say we have fumbled more than had interceptions but what if Fields was forcing the ball and instead had 2 ints yesterday?

I will say though that with the lead of 11 and later in the game I would have liked to have seen more tries downfield as I think they were run blitzing and we might have had some one on one chances  taking shots deeper and then hit them right behind the blitz as that should open the middle on some safer mid deep  crossing routes. 

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Brutus's picture

The conservative game plan got us the win in the biggest game of the year and secured us a spot in the post season, so mission accomplished I guess. But it’s time to go back to what got us here. Was reading a fan post on MGo last night (I ashamedly spend way too much time there) which opined that all the pressure is on Ohio State this week. The majority of the fans seems to think differently however. We’ve secured a spot in the B10 championship and as long as we win that, we are probably making the playoff, or so they think. I tend to agree and while we may not like the thought losing to TTUN, I’d rather see the offense play loose and fast and return to what we’ve seen all season, rather than go conservative like the 2nd half yesterday. 

TL;DR: The pressure is on TTUN this week. Play loose and not to not lose. 

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TB_buckeye86's picture

Ryan Day did not want to give Michigan any plays to scout. That's why the play calls were so conservative. Now, when we play Michigan they won't know what OSU is calling on 3rd down.

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Brutus's picture

I know that’s a common idea around here (and in football in general), but there’s film of ten other games for TTUN to scout. Now, I agree that we may see some new plays or formations next week that were being saved, but generally I don’t think the conservative play calls yesterday were meant to trick TTUN into thinking we’re changing our philosophy. I think Day was just trying to survive. 

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Polandbuck's picture

Brutus your on point! Why do so many people act like we have this whole other playbook lying in wait for the *ichigan game!? I think it started in the Tressel era as he said he had a couple tricks saved up for TTUN and now it’s manifested into this idea of “not showing our hand” or “conservative game plan”. Maybe Day thought running the ball was the best way to attack PSU, I mean the staff does what tens of hours of game footage a week but what do they know! I watched 3 hours of PSU football on my DVR from one camera angle and played two years of varsity football in high school and parced out the best way to beat PSU cause Im more football savy then Day!

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bhsiba99's picture

The issue from my POV was not the over reliance on the running game - it was the over reliance on the QB running game and it almost backfired spectacularly to the tune of 3 QB fumbles and an injured QB.   Yes OSU won the game, but it was not because of the conservative offensive play calling it was despite it.

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Frimmel's picture

I think it is a question of constraint. It was saving stuff within that contest probably. With the lead I guess he was showing looks that he could throw from if he had to. It was conservative because it was not needed this week. Had the Nits scored to get to one score again I think we could have answered easily. 

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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C-Deck's picture

Play loose and not to not lose. 

Play always to win.

"Hit them hard and see how they fall"

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Buck 1961's picture

Finally the Bucks got the much needed test game, as this will pay big dividends in the future games.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

It’s suggested that when Ryan Day hears Penn State has a top-ranked rush defense he’s determined to challenge it.   Pretty much worked and would have worked better if not for the fumbles.

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Steelydan54's picture

This was a great win for the Buckeyes!  We beat a very good team with well less than our best offensive effort. Last two years when we had well less than our best offense we got Iowa and Purdue! Both not particularly good teams. How did we do it?  First, a smothering, nation leading Defense. Second, we stumbled, but we didn't fall all the way into the Pit of Despair. The Nits run at us was over by late 3rd quarter, and we were able to add another TD to get the margin back to two scores by early 4th quarter. At that point Day channeled his inner Urban and played "not to lose".  Anyone who thinks a win by 24 is better than a win by 1 has never coached big time sports. Day got his team through their worst offensive showing and clinched the B1G East playing sub par (for us) football. We are going into The Game undefeated and favored, and should handle our business up north. Then on to the B1G Championship to beat up another lesser, but decent foe prior to the reason all these great young men come to Ohio State to play football... to win a National Championship!  

Steelybuck54

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Perplexing play calling. Young is the most impactful player in the country. Ball security.

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BuckeyeDevil's picture

I don't pretend to understand all the reasoning behind the play calling, but the most important thing happened: a win and a spot in the B!G championship game. 

I will offer one thought: the running game got bogged down because of a nearly 3:1 ratio in play calling in favor of the run. The running game feeds off the passing game about as much as the passing game feeds off the running game. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Also, running the ball into the strength of their D. But passes down the field weren’t executed early - particularly one to Olave down the sideline. Ball was under thrown and almost picked. Point being if we execute early it softens everything up. Day was most likely guarded in his play calls. Either way we’re healthy and the adversity should be beneficial moving forward. 

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

That was a hell of a play by Olave.  I thought for sure it was picked, but CO made sure that either he was getting it, or no one was.  Very heads-up play by a true soph.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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bhsiba99's picture

There was no intermediate or short route passing plan, it seemed.   With the incredible talent on the receiving corps and weak PSU secondary, should definitely have been challenging that a lot more.   The weather during the Wisconsin game was worse and that did not stop OSU from focusing on a complete passing gameplan that should not have been the issue either.    At point I was looking for Meyer and Tressel up in the coordinators booth to see if they were passing down the plays  - run QB, run RB, run QB, run RB ..... :)

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Poco Loco's picture

The only reason I can see to complain about the play calling is if one has bet to cover the spread and Ohio State did not. 

a hard rock miner from Butte, Montana

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buckeye81's picture

I think Coach Day intends to run right at TTUN. If they can't stop him he will just keep running it at them until they bring a safety down. Then he will gash them with play action passes. Don Brown can prep for 4 wide  and 5 wide all he wants to but he also should prepare to be very stout against our run game. I don't think we were keeping any secrets in this game. The strategy was very sound, even more so given the game-time weather conditions. I think Coach Day and his staff believed this was the best way to make sure we won this game and advanced to the BIG champs game. It didn't hurt us to prove that our guys could run the ball against one of the top run defenses in the country. Penn State made some plays and caused some fumbles. That's what a top defense does. Our defense rose up when it had to. We played tough and we showed we can win a tight game.

On to Ann Arbor. Death or Glory!

JTatumCCS

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Sheridanclan11's picture

The play-calling lacked any creativity. It felt like the J.T. Barrett era. The issue I had with it is that Fields' strength is not JT-style running, he had not played the JT role before and his thumb was hurting. In fact, Fields seemed off from the start. I believe next week will be a more difficult game so I hope that JF can heal and we can be more creative in our play-calling. 

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cledaybuck's picture

What do the averages look like if you take the sacks out of the rushing numbers and put them into the passing numbers?

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Jake Anderson's picture

Rushing Yards + Opposing Sack Yardage = 229 + 28 = 257. Number of rushing attempts - sacks = 58. Average yards per carry = 4.43. 

Passing Yards - Sack Yardage = 188 - 28 = 160. Number of dropbacks = 25. Average yards per dropback = 6.4

I'm not sure if the rushing numbers already included the sack yardage, but I took out the sack yardage anyways. 

NHBuckeye's picture

Penn State:  We've got one of the top-ranked Rush Defenses in the Country.

Ryan Day:  Hold my beer.

I think Day's alpha dog mentality wanted to break their spirit by running the ball right down their throats.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Jroc021's picture

No serious injuries, a win and a spot in the CCG. I'd say that's a good day no matter how it happened. Without putting the ball on the ground this was a 42-10 blowout.

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BbBnD's picture

Have you heard good news on T Smith? he left in the third and didn’t come back. 

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shiloh's picture

42-7

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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TheJOAT's picture

I think we forget that Day's a new head coach. This is the first game he's had a team give him a counterpunch. He handled it extremely well.

I may give out but, I'll never give up

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bhsiba99's picture

yes - though the counterpunch was OSU punching themselves in the mouth :)

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Ohio State's rushing inefficiency,

I completely disagree with this statement.

PSU had the #4 Rushing Defense, allowing 759 yards total, 75.9 YPG, 2.56 YPC and only 8 rushing TDs over 10 games this season.

OSU rushed for 229 yards (more than 25% of PSU's season total thru 11 games, and about three times their YPG average), 3.8 YPC (almost double PSU's avg), and 2 rushing TDs (20% of PSU's season total now).

PSU has been allowing 62% of team's average rushing yards. OSU has been rushing for 282 YPG and gained 229 yards yesterday.  So PSU "held" the Buckeyes to 81% of their season rushing average in YPG, and 64% of their season rushing average in Yards Per Carry.

What Day and the Buckeyes did yesterday on offense was Clausewitzian in nature. They attacked the PSU defense's Schwerpunkt (center of gravity) and destroyed it.

Out of the dominant characteristics of both belligerents "a certain center of gravity develops, the hub of all power and movement, on which everything depends.  That is the point against which all our energies should be directed."

Carl von Clausewitz "On War"

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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Frimmel's picture

Spot on Navy. We beat PSU at what they are best at. 

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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Buckwheat's picture

One other stat to note. Penn State scored fewer points against the Bucks than Rutgers or FAU.

Transitive property?

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2morrow's picture

The main silver lining that I see from the game is to quell all the talk about the greatest OSU team ever, and to tamp down the accolades a bit. We always seem to bounce back from a bad game, mad as hell and we take it out on the next opponent.

MSU loss in 2015 resulted in a blow out in the outhouse. We ran the ball vs um all day long and they couldn't stop it. 42-13

2016 lost to PSU on the blocked field goal, came back and beat NW in a close one and then beat #9 Nebraska 62-3.

2017 lost to Iowa - next game defeated MSU 48-3.

At least this time we didn't lose but hoping it is enough of a wake up call for us next Saturday.

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Frimmel's picture

I have seen too often the Buckeyes get away from the run in these sorts of contests and get beat for it. 

After it went to 21-17 I thought that conservative drive was smart. Coach Day did not ask the offense to get it all back on that possession. Settled the offense down and out the defense in a good spot. They got a stop and good field position for the offense who proceeded to make it a two score contest again. 

PSU only threatened on the drive ending with the Hilliard interception. Nothing wrong with grinding it out especially with our defense.

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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