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Not a threat until he laces them up on the opposite side of OSU. Until then, I hope he runs the SEC.
He might be a threat but his defense isn't
Indifferent, for me. I guess I ‘root’ for him as a human being.
As a person? Of course.
As the quarterback of Louisiana State University?
All I know is I'd rather see LSU's shit show of a defense over Clemson.
Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.
Totally disagree. I want Clemson. We need to slay that dragon.
About an hour before kickoff of 0-31 my Dad asked what I thought. I said there's no way in hell the Buckeyes go 0-3 against Clemson. I'm still haunted by this.
Better worry about Penn State and Michigan right now in that order, then who we play in the BTC if we get there.
Yes - always. He wanted to be a BUCKEYE...it just did not work out.
Always a BUCKEYE!
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Nope, he plays for an enemy and he is possibly taking a Heisman away from our QB now.
Nothing personally against him but not rooting for him.
If the Bucks play him/LSU then I of course want the Bucks to stomp their ass...but the notion of him "taking a Heisman away...." is just ignorant, he's earning a Heisman if he gets it, he's a damn good QB....JF's only issue is he's only had to play about 1/2 the game time this year, not his fault....LSU's D has forced JB to stay in games and rack up big stats.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
Happy for him, but not outwardly rooting for him. If he plays us, enemy number one. And it will probably get ugly as the guys that wanted Burrow over Haskins will be out in full force stirring it up on here.
I seriously doubt that. I was in the Burrow camp and wish him the best,until he's on the other sideline. Then it's time for Chase and company to take him and those people down
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Very well said!
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
No Geaux Jeaux?
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
I was Geaux Jeaux, but it's time to get on with business. That's September/October stuff.
I'll keep tabs on Joe until the Sssss...Eeeee...Ccccc...championship game is over. Then it's over til he's drafted...
Sure. Why not? There are 3 other spots and someone has to fill them. Besides, at this point I think LSU just might be in no matter what.
I hope Joe does well for the rest of the season and Slays the sec. With that being said in the playoffs I hope he gets to the NC game and we crush them. If he throws for 300+ and a couple TD's I'm fine as long as we score 40+ and get the lopsided victory.
As long as the Championship trophy comes back to Columbus I wish Joe the best.
That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
Have nothing but respect for the guy. He carries himself and represented OSU well, just a classy guy all in all. Having said that, other than rooting for LSU making the CFP, I will not root for Joe Burrow because his interests are completely aligned against Ohio State's.
An Ohio boy that the Buckeyes did not want. There is a little more fire in the belly when an Ohio boy plays for the Buckeyes especially when they play ttun. I hope he wins the Heisman.
Totally unfair to say the Buckeyes didn't want him.
The Buckeyes didn't want Joe Burrow the same way they didn't want Cardale Jones or JT Barrett or Dwayne Haskins or Craig Krenzel or any backup QB on scholarship who ever had to step into an emergency.
Urban absolutely wanted him. He wouldn't have recruited him otherwise and he was devastated when Burrow chose to leave. Haskins was just the better QB at the time, it's that simple. The only coach who is guilty of not wanting Burrow is Scott Frost (and I'm sure he's kicking himself for that now given how Adrian Martinez has looked this year).
Urban didn't recruit him. Didn't really want him either, at first. Herman had to convince Urban to bring Joe in. Urban agreed after Herman convinced him during a Burrow workout.
Urban's comments after Burrow left speak for themselves. He was devastated to see him go. Also Burrow WAS a better fit for the offense Meyer wanted to run here than Haskins was (Haskins was the exact opposite of the type of QB Meyer looks for to run his offenses, without the proper coaching Haskins could easily have turned into another John Brantley here). Meyer forcing the Tate packages at one point during the 2018 season showed that Haskins' lack of mobility frustrated him to no end. If there was any QB that Meyer probably didn't have much say on during his recruitment at OSU it was Haskins (and possibly Baldwin as well considering he was a fallback option that Day tracked down after Emory Jones decommitted). The entire reason Haskins worked out so well was because of Day's presence on staff and increasing influence. Otherwise he would've been misused just like Cardale was in 2015. If you look at the competition Burrow was the more mobile QB (he was recruited as a 4-star dual threat) and overall a better fit for Meyer's offense, the goodwill Haskins earned from his performance in the Game the year prior just gave him the edge in the competition ultimately (though I think Burrow would've trounced the Skunk Weasels as well had he been given the opportunity to do so).
The Buckeyes never showed him a cold shoulder. They held a competition for the starting qb which Haskins barely won by all accounts. Burrow decided he did not want to remain the backup, got his degree, and went in search of a starting opportunity. Looks like it was a win-win for all parties involved.
Why would someone DV this? It is exactly what happened. There has to be a troll among us.
Please tell the truth! He broke his hand and fell behind in the depth chart and IMHO spent all last year recovering from his injury. Once you lose your spot it's hard to just get it back especially at a place with as much talent that Ohio State keeps on the roster. Joe did what he had to do to see the field as quickly as he could rather than burn another year on the bench. Stop with the no one wanted him or he betrayed Ohio State.
I'm rooting for him. Even with a game against us I hope it's not him that loses the game to us.
I want the #1 seed in the playoffs and I don’t want LSU to be in a national championship in their own backyard. The best way to achieve this is for LSU to lose.
Haven’t been rooting for him this year, not gonna start now.
I dont think LSU beats Clemson. Clemson vs Ohio state this year in the bourbon bowl.
Rooting for Joe so Bama is left out, for sure. Other than that it's OSU > everybody....!
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I will GLADLY play a Tua-less Alabama team in the playoff, are you kidding me?
Right even if it is this version of Bama....can you think of a better playoff run than beating Bama in the semi finals and then Clemson in the Finals. That is like the dream right there.
It's just the principle of it for me. Bama getting left out is glorious. I think Ohio State beats any team out there, including Bama with Tua.
Clemson is the only team that makes me nervous, but I think we'd beat them something like 31-24 if we do face them.
Understandable, but say Bama gets in and we stomp them 49-7. Maybe then they will stop getting so much credit all the time and actually have to EARN it. Then beat Clemson by 2 scores in the finals. Would an even sweeter playoff run than in 2014.
Also don't really feel like playing Oregon again when we play them in season each of the next two seasons.
Stomping Bama and beating Clemson by 2 scores is something I can certainly live with!!! I'm in.
I'd love that matchup as well but remember we beat Bama with Cardale at QB in 2015. The last thing we need to do is take them for granted just because they have Mac Jones at QB now.
It was easier last year when he wasn’t a threat to any of Ohio State’s objectives.
Last year, I shamelessly rooted for Joe throughout LSU's good, but not great, season. Partly because he was an underdog, though.
This season, as long as Joe is still playing against the likes of Bama, Auburn, UGA, I have rooted for him and will continue to root for him. But it's getting to be just about that time when I won't root for him any longer. For example, if LSU is facing a non-SEC team in the playoff, I will root for them to lose - ideally, Joe won't be the goat (after previously being declared the G.O.A.T.), but I will root for SEC embarrassment all the same.
Rooting for him until we see them as the next OSU opponent. My reasons are my reasons. He is a former Buckeye and great kid, and I'm happy to see him have success. I also think that the LSU defense would struggle big time against OSU, and Joe would be seeing ghosts with his former teammates that he knows are top notch players coming at him.
Funny you mention the "seeing ghosts" comment considering Darnold and Burrow look very much like they could be brothers (or at the very least related).
Wow, until you said it and I looked at the pictures side by side I had no idea. They are related somehow, their family trees have an intersecting point. That's crazy.
When I first read the title, I thought yes, I am still rooting for JB. Then got to thinking about how I just love upsets so much and would love to see LSU get beat by Arkansas (not going to happen) or Texas A&M (slim chance).
If he plays Ohio State, he wants to do the same thing to them Shea Patterson does. We cheering for Shea?
No. I'm good on Joe.
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He is an Ohio State Graduate so he is a Buckeye. Geaux Jeaux Burreaux!
We have to face him? Take his lunch money.
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I'm a big Joe Burrow fan and he loves Ohio State (look at his current twitter picture, ha)
I'll always root for him except if we were to play him. Until then, Roll Burrito!!!!
Still gonna cheer him on when we face him in the NCG, just gonna go against every single other player they have
"I feel ready for whatever awaits me on the other side. I don’t fear adversity. I don’t fear the spotlight. I don’t fear success. And I don’t fear failure." - Braxton Miller
Living in Southern Ohio I would say I'm happy for him doing the job he has this season. But to be honest right now I wouldn't trade him for Fields and if we play LSU he's public enemy #1.
Yes, until he has to face us. And no offense, but fuck any OSU fan that tells me I'm an idiot for doing that. Let's try being a little classier than the Georgia pukes who feel the need to dump on Fields all the time just because he jilted them. Burrow has earned his success and he's not an arrogant prick like Tate is so I'm happy to see him doing well.
Reminder: Burrow didn't have to leave Ohio State. He chose to.
So what? What was he supposed to do, stay here and be a backup his whole career? He deserves better than that and what he's doing at LSU is proof that him rotting on the bench behind Haskins would've been a complete waste of his talent. He had no future with this program, that's why he left. Considering how high he's raised his draft stock in this season alone I'd say he made the right decision.
I don't begrudge him his choice at all. I might even have done the same in his shoes.
But...it was a choice. I think lots of the Burrow mythology around Buckeye fandom overlooks that.
The “mythology” is super weird.
I don’t see any other team claiming their transfer players successes like this and it’s really strange we do for some reason.
If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!
None. Zip, zilch, zero.
Furthermore, we're not obsessed with Keandre Jones, Blue Smith, and countless others who've transferred. It is weird; he plays for another team.
Keandre Jones plays for a shitty Maryland team that no one cares about and that is zero threat to OSU whatsoever. And Blue Smith, wtf has he done at UC this year, he still has yet to get on the field for them. The reason Burrow's story is so interesting to OSU fans is because of how well he's doing this year and how meteoric his rise to the top of the 2020 QB class has been. If Keandre Jones was a good enough player to single handedly turn Maryland into a national power like Burrow has done at LSU OSU fans would probably be talking about him a lot as well.
Burrow's story is interesting and obviously connects to Buckeye fans and Ohio high school football fans.. He was at LSU last year, too, though, when they were just pretty good and there were about a million threads about him. There have been about five million this year, including ones that express concern about his feelings should Buckeye fans root against him. Seems weird to me.
It's a given that OSU fans are going to root against him if/when he plays against OSU for the first time (and I'm sure Burrow himself is smart enough to realize that). There's nothing wrong with wishing him well post-OSU IMO. In fact I think it's beneficial because it helps eliminate the stigma that Buckeye Nation is a fanbase 100% filled with classless dipshits (seriously, the outsider perspective is that asshats like Tennessee Jeff make up the entirety of our fanbase as a whole and that couldn't be further from the truth). I mean, I look at all the horrible things Georgia fans have to say about Fields and it's absolutely sickening and disgusting. That's not the type of behavior to be emulated whatsoever.
In fact I think it's beneficial because it helps eliminate the stigma that Buckeye Nation is a fanbase 100% filled with classless dipshits
Very true. It's a battle all fanbases fight, but it seems like ours is an even bigger challenge.
Few people are CLAIMING his success (if anything Joe Brady deserves the most credit for his success this year), they're just happy he's doing well for himself. What are we supposed to do, wish absolute hell on him and his family just because he chose to leave OSU? He had no future with this program the minute they chose to go with Haskins last year so you can't really blame for deciding to take his future into his own hands.
Meh. That's a little unfair. It was clear that if he wanted to play then he had to leave.
I kind of get the idea that you're just having fun with this. Trying to stir the pot kind of thing but some of your responses...man.
I guess if someone hit the lottery they wouldn't have to take it...it would be their choice.
Joe Burrow is an elite QB , he's probably going to be the Heisman winner and could very well be the #1 overall pick in the draft. For anyone to say well it was his choice he could have stayed here and been the backup either isn't playing with a full deck or like I said... just stiring the pot.
Not anymore the number 1 seed is on the line.
I am not as well. While I think Clemson is the much bigger threat at the moment, Burrow's insane downfield accuracy can win them any game they play. He is completing over 70% of passes atleast 10 yards down field. While they struggled against the an Auburn defense worse than us that number is very scary.
He slayed Bama(who is probably better than LSU) and has the #1 QB pick locked up. I want him to start to struggle so we can get the #1 seed and for him to obviously do poorly against us.
Don't believe he needs to struggle for us to get the #1 seed. I'm pretty confident that we will pass LSU "IF" we win out.
Our next three opponents are PSU, TTUN, and hopefully a Big Ten CCG. LSU has no effect on our next 3 games.
Rooting against LSU = rooting for Bama and/or UGA to join the Tigers in the playoffs. LSU winning out through the CCG helps prevent that.
Yes. Le's play LSU in a literal home game in the National Championship game. Love it.
My answer is no. No. NO. HELL NO. FUCK NO.
I'm tellin you, I really think people here will be happy if this guy won the Heisman, taking it away from the great seasons of Young, Dobbins, and Fields.
I bleed scarlet...literally
Easy dramatic. I was there in 08. It was a 60-40 crowd.
You can root for a guy without rooting for him to win the Heisman. I'm rooting for him to keep winning and keep Bama and UGA out, not to go off for 7 TDs each game or throw Doug Flutie Hail Marys
You bet. Unless I only want to care about one aspect of the best sport going, I need to align with additional interests.
A threat? He's, at best, a one day in a lifetime threat...and I can prioritize my interests.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
I can't tell if this is more magnanimous than it is mature or the other way around. Either way, it's bigger than yours truly.
I don't have a grudge with Joe for leaving. It was definitely the prudent choice to make, however, It is where he chose to enroll that is problematic. I detest, abhor, and hate all things SEC. Unfortunately, Joe has resurrected an SEC dinosaur that poses a threat to my beloved Buckeyes not only for the Heisman, but also for the Natty. With that said, honestly, if he was anywhere but an SEC school, I probably would not be as salty with his achievements. But we have an Ohioan, and a Yankee, delivering success for the South. I think our venerated native son, WTS would be roiled.
Somehow I think if Joe had ended up at Nebraska instead (where his father wanted him to go but Frost wasn't having it) OSU fans would hate him a lot more because he'd be jumping from one B1G program to another (which would pose a more immediate threat to us considering we've played Nebraska each of the last two seasons). I was actually relieved when Joe went to an SEC team tbh. I don't like the conference by any means but I would've felt much more betrayed if he had gone to another B1G school where we had to face him more frequently.
By that logic none of our players from the SEC states should be here - start counting (Justin Fields leads the list):https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-footbl/roster/
I 've been pulling for Joe Burrow his whole career....OSU & LSU . Great young man that has earned the success. He's the straw that stirs the drink...deserves the Heisman.
Am I rooting for Joe Burrow? Most definitely, and also am rooting for LSU. I'd rather see them win than Bama, Clemson, or any other contender.
Thanks for this, Blu. This is some masterful, 4D chess stuff here.
Not actively rooting for him, but not rooting against him. That being said:
1) Love that he knocked Bama out of the playoffs (I don't think they are now, nor were with Tua, ever getting back in after the LSU loss)
2) I don't think OSU will see them in the playoffs; my feeling is OSU goes back to #1 and stays there after either the PSU or UM wins (assuming we get them both), and doesn't lose that spot. That means LSU plays Clemson in the Semis, and I think Clemson beats LSU by a TD.
So for me he's likely to be kind of inconsequential to OSU's season at this point. Fields, Dobbins, and Young were never likely to win the Heisman given the way the season played out (I'd argue Chase had the best shot, and the suspension ruined that).
I wish him well but I do not root for him or LSU.
Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye....unless he's that week's opponent, in which case he can get dumped then.
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special.
I'm a Hell No. I don't wish him ill but at this point it's Ohio State versus Everyone Else and he's on the other side.
Ok, I'll stir the pot some....... so he was a born and raised in Ohio Player, played for the Bucks and we enjoyed having him on the team and then he decided to try and start somewhere else, since there was another quarterback that was rumored to start, and he left since he wanted an opportunity to better himself- went out and earned being the starter on a CFP caliber team and we won't "talk nice" or "root for him"?
If he plays the Bucks- heck yes, I will root for the Buckeyes, but I know full well he was a Buckeye and widely considered to be a good QB and I wished he would of stayed. but In today's world where the schools and the NCAA make lots of $$$$$$. players also have to look out for themselves and I believe he did what he had to do, that is best for him.
PS- I like his competitive fire as well. He leaves it all on the field when the game is on the line.
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
Hell Yes I’m rooting for Joe!
I have been on team Joe from the day he committed. Wanted Joe to beat out Haskins and before that I wanted him to take the job from JT. I am totally happy with how things worked out for us and for him. He is one of my favorite players in CFB and I am not afraid to admit it. I watched Joe in HS and always thought he was "different". Besides obvious arm talent he has true grit. You dont see a lot of QBs with grit. Some people call it the "it" factor. I call it grit and love watching him play.
Watching the spring game that year I thought he played better than Haskins
Will always like JB...But game day is game day...you play to win...so thanks for the dance JB...Go Bucks
Sure I'm rooting for Joe, and will continue right up until he lines up across from the Buckeyes, then I'll be back after the game ends. He's done absolutely nothing to disrespect his alma mater, so no reason not to wish him well. Of course I want a Buckeye to win the Heisman, but he is my non-Buckeye choice. I sure as hell don't want to see another OK qb get it for the 3rd year in a row.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
Joe is a good story, but if LSU hadn't been such a train wreck at the QB position for the last however many years I don't think he would be getting this much press. He is definitely doing well but I also think that the SEC is not as great as people think it is. LSU is getting all the hype due to the story while Ohio State and Clemson sit back and possibly wait to capitalize on what is an atrocious defense...like Oklahoma is. So I cheer for JB as a person but won't care when LSU gets gutted at some point.
Doesn’t matter what the LSU situation was, Joe went where he could play. And is doing a damn good job!
Of course! He’s not a threat until he’s lined up on the field, across from the silver bullets. He’s still got an OSU degree, so he’s more of a Buckeye than I am. In regards to the Playoffs and the Heisman, I’m rooting for him to come in second to the Buckeyes. And if we do meet in the playoffs, I hope we win big, but I still hope he plays just well enough to lose, without hurting his draft stock.
Honestly, I really don't think I ever started rooting for him at all. At the end of the day, he didn't want to be here so I really don't care what he's doing.
Ok, you really don't believe that, do you? That he didn't want to be here? C'mon man. If you are from Ohio how could you not have ever rooted for him? He was Ohio's Mr. Football and still to my knowledge holds the record for the most TD's thrown in a state championship game. He came to OSU, competed and only left when he was told they were going to go with Haskins. If you didn't root for him while he was here I find that very strange.
Guys in our system get hurt all the time, he could have stuck it out to see what happened. He may have found himself in the lineup a good bit last year. He chose to leave instead of stay, I honestly don't care what happened once he left. I didn't understand why, for the last 2 seasons, people kept posting threads about him. That's just how I operate. He's not on my team, so I don't really pay attention or care what he is doing now.
I don't wish him ill will or anything just don't know why we keep having threads about Joe Burrow when I'd rather have the 2 QBs who have been our starters since he left, than Joe.
He was born a Buckeye, he was raised a Buckeye, he played as a Buckeye, and graduated as a Buckeye. When a reporter asked him after the big win over Alabama, if he thought he would be where he was today, the Heisman Frontrunner. He said, I always hoped I would be, but I just thought it would be in a different uniform. He still refers to michigan as TTUN, and when asked which rivalry is better, he said out of respect for the schools, I hold off until I am finished school. If it were LSU/Alabama, he could have said so right then, but OSU/UM, he couldn't say that while still playing for LSU.
I was hoping Miss would keep the pressure on, and beat LSU. He wanted to be here, still wishes he were here (based on comments he's said), and is an overall good guy. He is as much as a Buckeye as Luke Fickell, but like Luke, he had to do what was best for his career. Yes, I am still rooting for Joe Burrow.
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This is my take too. Obviously, if we meet in the CFP I want a OSU win.
I'm all in on Joe, and hope he throws for 400 yards and no TD's in a losing effort to OSU for the NC then goes on to marry the Delta Gamma homecoming queen after getting drafted #1 overall next year.
It's certainly possible, but I don't think it's inevitable, that LSU and OSU meet in the playoffs. At my age, I've seen a lot of seemingly inevitable events fail to materialize.
If OSU does play LSU, I hope we beat them 63-28 or something like that, where Burrow plays well but his team is just over-matched. I'd call that a win-win, and I'm not opposed to getting all the wins I can get.
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I will pull for Joe until we play him.
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Joe did everything right and only left when he was no longer needed, no reason to feel ill towards the young man. He didn't abandoned the team at the last minute, didn't talk smack about the program, he was all class at least in public.
Now if he plays the bucks I won't hope that he has a good game but we win crap, I would wish that he gets stomped and has the worst game of his career, after that he can make his millions
People forget that until Burrow broke his hand he was getting the 2nd team reps and on track to be the next starter. Without that Joe might be our 2nd year starting QB today. He did everything right while he was here, graduated and stayed until he thought he had no choice. He and Haskins are obviously both NFL level talent, they both deserved a chance to play. I can't hold it against him for the way things went down, I'm sure even he wishes it happened differently. For me, he's a Buckeye every day until he steps on the field against us. Then after he loses to us, he'll be a Buckeye again.
People forget that until Burrow broke his hand he was getting the 2nd team reps and on track to be the next starter. Without that Joe might be our 2nd year starting QB today.
If anyone was truly paying attention, Haskins was creeping up on Burrow and was right on his tail before he broke his hand. It was being suspected by a lot of people that Haskins was about to jump Burrow and Burrow breaking his hand did him in.
He’ll yes I’m rooting for him, up until he lines up against the Buckeyes. He’s a great kid, an OSU alum, and comes from my hometown. Athens County hasn’t produced many D1 athletes, so we are all proud that he’s about to win the Heisman and be a first round pick in the NFL draft. Also, why not cheer for him? He busted his ass at OSU, but it didn’t work out. He’s not on a rival team. It’s OK to be a fan of individual players in other teams.
Hell ya! He has represented Ohio well taking down all the mighty sec teams. Joe is going to whip uga and make sure that only 1 sec team gets into CFP
I’ll always like Joe Burrow. At this point in the season I am not rooting for LSU-they are simply a target down the road.
Yes, because in general I root for ex OSU players that leave. In particular for Joe, I want to see Bama kept out of the playoffs and he did his part. Also I want to see more great OSU QBs (the offenses have been fun to watch, making winning even sweeter) so having guys who weren't able to start be seen as learning while at OSU probably helps with recruiting (yes, I hope Tate wins the job in Miami also). If OSU plays LSU, of course I want OSU to crush them.
No. People need to realize he's going to be a LSU legend as their first Heisman winner. Sure, he graduated from OSU, but he will eternally be a Tiger.
Right, like if Fields were to win anything, it would be weird for UGA to talk it up as win for them. No one will ever remember where he played before LSU.
The record book won’t say “2019 Heisman - Joe Burrrow, LSU (former OSU back-up)”
Except Burrow spent 3 years being developed as a QB at tOSU and graduated from the university. You could argue the reason he is different from all the previous LSU QBs is because of his development and the coaching he received at tOSU. Fields spent maybe 1 semester at Georgia.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. We need to stop attributing his success to the fact he was "developed here" or something like that. It's weird that people need to claim that for Ohio State.
If he wasn't any good, everyone would say "well thank god he left, no wonder he wasn't the starter", but since he's doing well there's some strange need for our fans to credit it to Ohio State. It's weird and very SEC-like to claim someone else's success to make you feel better about your own team.
Some of it is just facts though. He was here a long time. He was our backup. He graduated from Ohio State. His former teammates still seem to love him. At one point one of the DL here at tOSU said Joe Burrow was the next Tom Brady based on what he saw in practice. Now people in the national media are saying that as well. According to Joe himself, JT Barrett, Urban, etc. he got a lot better and more mentally tough while he was here. None of that means that he didn't continue to progress and get better at LSU. It just means some amount of what you see in him as a college QB was shaped here. It means Ryan Day had a hand in the development of 2 first round QBs, which will matter to future recruits. That's why some of us are still happy to claim Joe Burrow as a graduate of The Ohio State University and a former buckeye player.
Are you just going to act like Billy Cannon never existed?
Billy Canon won a Heisman for LSU, no?
Edit: I didn't see Ceesix's post before I responded. I think Billy Canon is who the fictional movie about the Grey Ghost (played by Dennis Quade) and LSU is based on. In the movie he marries the Delta Gamma homecoming queen wins the Heisman and NC....and then has a few problems down the road which I think Joey will hopefully avoid.
I think OP making this an either/or instead of mentioning the obvious gray area. Nobody on the site wants Joe Burrow to beat Ohio State. However, am I happy we may play Burrow and LSU in the playoff instead of Bama, who makes it every year? Of course. I'm happy for Burrow and I hope if OSU plays him in the playoff he plays a really good game and the Buckeyes beat LSU in a classic. I root for Burrow and LSU in games not against OSU since I much prefer them making the playoff to Bama and/or UGA making it.
I still like josef
Honestly, I stopped caring the second he left the team.
I don’t root for professional players when they leave my favorite teams, I don’t really see this any differently.
I know it has nothing to do with Burrow, but once the news came out about an LSU booster stealing over $500,000 from a hospital to give to LSU players' families, I have no love for LSU. Especially since they have faced no punishment for it.
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Never heard that. When was it? I couldn't even find anything googling it.
Here is a link. Here is another. Again, nothing to do with Burrow. Other than the fact that the booster's actions are repugnant, I just hate that it happened in the SEC and like most corruption there, nothing will happen to the football team. I mean, its not as serious as taking and repaying a loan so that your girlfriend can watch you play in the Rose Bowl, but there still should be some punishment for stealing from a children's hospital so a player will play at LSU.
Thanks for the link. Agree that is despicable ...just about as low as you can get. I don't know if I would hate on the whole University because of the actions of one booster. From what I read LSU reported it as soon as they got wind of it. Now if it turns out that coaches or several players were involved that would be different.
I think back to when Troy Smith accepted money (on a much smaller scale) from a booster. The narrative from the media was OSU is dirty and this sort of thing goes on all the time.
I wish him well unless we play him. He is fun to watch play the game. Liked him when I saw him play in high school. Dude is tough and gives it his all on every play.
I will pull for him right up until we take the field against them. I'm happy for him. Just hope the Bucks won't hurt him too bad when they beat LSU 52 to 27.
Joe betted on himself (said enough with kool-aid drinking) and it may turn out to be a $20M jackpot, even more than Haskins and a better draft position. I’m glad for Joe’
Football wise, I have never have rooted for Burrow. I rooted for other qb's to start over him that I preferred here, he proved he couldn't start and then transferred out down south to a team I couldn't give two fucks less about. I really don't understand the obsession with joe burrow. As a person.... sure?
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Well, it sure looks like you were right to root against him. He really sucks doesn't he.
I got no problem with who the coaches chose but to say he wasn't good enough? I mean I assume you watched LSU play...even after seeing what he can do. Your right, you don't understand.
Yeah, I was right, because we got a year of record-breaking Haskins (who is better than Burrow) and at least two years of record-breaking Fields (who is better than burrow), instead of one year of joey growing into himself, and probably one good year, but big question marks at QB next year. Any objective person would say that we are in a favorable position, also understood as, me being right.
Why do you have to parenthesise, "better than burrow?" I think we would of been in good hands whoever was picked at QB last year. Also, if the season ended today, Joe Burrow would have the single season passing percentage record, making him "record breaking." So what exactly are you right about?
Get it through your head, joe burrow is the enemy and is right now at this very moment, actively working against us winning a national championship.
Yes - I like him. Would like to see him win the Heisman. Happy as hell he took out Bama and hope he takes out Georgia. We get to the playoffs and face them I want to destroy them...
Somebody has got to meet us in the round of four. Some prefer certain wins and some think lsu would be a certain win I prefer lsu with or without Joey as a sec rep. Would not root for him at bama ichigan clemmy or Texas but at lsu I don't have to root against him til we meet
I hope the best for the kids future. But Fields is arguably in the number 2 position for the Heisman and will likely be playing the 2nd and maybe 3rd most watched games of the regular season the next 2 weeks. Would love to see Fields just CRUSH against PSU/UM, Burrow play poorly against UGA in the SEC title game and Fields follow it up with crushing Wisky / Minny in primetime and stealing the trophy.
I mean, I for sure root for him as he navigates the SEC, but if the Buckeyes and Tigers are on opposite sides of the field, to quote Jerry "the King" Lawler, he's gotta get beat just like everybody else.
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A lot of folks in this thread somehow keep erroneously implying that Jeaux Burreaux fan boys would root for LSU over OSU. Nothing could be further from the truth. We all want OSU to win; however, many of us fan boys want to see Jeaux succeed in all areas of life. We admire Jeaux the person and the player......we just don't want to see him & LSU beat OSU....never.
We like Jeaux the person more than Jeaux the player if that's possible.
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Always--unless he plays us, in which case I hope he has negative yardage for the game.
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I'm rooting for Joe. He's a great kid. He wanted to play at OSU but it didn't work out. If we have to play LSU I hope we mud stomp them but it won't go well for Joe in Red Stick. I know that fan base very well as I married into an LSU family. They will blame him for the loss even if he has a decent game.
The reason I don't like professional sports is that the teams are way too artificially manufactured. I never understood, for example, where the joy would be as a Miami Heat fan if you simply won by creating an allstar team. Same thing with Golden State.
To root for the Buckeyes means a lot more than just rooting for the current stable of players. To be a Buckeye fan is more than just the sum of its current roster. It's about tradition and pride and culture. It's about Mike Doss coming back for his senior year for a National Championship. It's about Braxton Miller coming back as a receiver because he has an OSU tattoo and grew up here.
Joe Burrow personifies all of these things. He is a Buckeye in every meaning of the word, other than being on the roster. I wish him way more than luck.
We need Burrow to struggle mightily. Fields is right there in the Heisman competition.
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I'm rooting for him until he's on the other side of the field from the Buckeyes.
No, he isn't a buckeye( he graduated from ohiostate, but when he goes to the NFL or potentially wins the Heisman he will be known as a tiger in the history book)
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I won't be head-to-head, but other than that. Yah. I'm a Burrow fan.
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Reminder: Ohio State is competing with LSU for CFP's #1 seed.
Not so sure of that at this point. We will remain #1 as long as we remain unbeaten. Beating TAMU is not going to vault LSU into the top spot. A win next week will keep us at #1.
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Root for the person not the team.
What are we rooting against though? Do we really want UGA to beat LSU so the SEC gets 2 teams again?
I like Joe and always have. He deserves everything he's worked for. That said, if/when we face LSU, that's where it ends. Go Bucks!