British man nearly dies after a parasite crawls into his penis and lays eggs.
Can we never include a sentence like this in any Skull Session ever again? Also, beat Penn State.
Bad mental picture, this one.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Now I know the plot to the next Alien movie.
Pro Tip: wear a rubber while swimming in Lake Malawi.
Full body one is the way to go.
Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted.
That’s using your head. Good thinking.
The guy that found the sperm whale vomit needs to wear those too. 100K for vomit sounds right up your alley, I see it’s in Thailand.
What happens in Thailand, stays in Thailand.
Make that #4 on Navin R. Johnson's keys to success in life:
1) Lord loves a workin' man.
2) Don't trust whitey.
3) See a doctor and get rid of it.
4) Wear a rubber while swimming in Lake Malawi
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer." - Frank Zappa
Way too early in the morning to cringe like that. Yikes!
Class of 2001 - classless since then.
I just wanna know if James Franklin was the parasite.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Under Rated Comment of the Day
It is so easy to be average - UFM
And here you are typing it out twice... =/
See, I skipped past the links to the comments and wouldn't have even known this was included unless you quoted it.
Damn you Brutus. Damn you.
Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington
Thanks coach Meyer for recommending Ryan Day to replace you. He is exactly what this team needed.
Coach Day has got that edge to him. That emotion in the tweet is awesome to see how fired up he got. Players got to love playing for a coach like that.
He is definitely a leader and is great at managing/ utilizing talent on this team.
Who would have thunk it.
And since Liam is not in the band, can we toot his horn?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
At the very least he's the best dresser!
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
When he wins the award I really hope he wears that shirt to the ceremony.
Or the shirt of that shirt
Maybe the best t-shirt ever.
...the doctor telling him that playing at less than 100 percent would expose his son to a higher risk of injury of other body parts.
Tua had a different doc.
I know we were robbed of the Nick and Chase destruction derby...but looking back it was the best move for all parties. The end of the season really wouldn’t have changed with him at less then 100% healthy. It spared us looking looking like Saban and Alabama right now (and recruits are watching!)
Cue incoming #takes regarding Nick Bosa... DO IT, i dare ya. I got my DV ready for ya
All Glory is Fleeting
Did you manage to down vote yourself?
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I fail to understand your logic
Some of us dont mind that he didnt play as much as he left the team as a CAPTAIN. That was my issue when he left. Leaders lead as long as they can. His teammates didnt seem to mind so whatever I guess.
Right. That was my issue, too. If you can’t play, fine, but you can still be a leader, you can still be a mentor to younger players. Instead, he dropped out of school, went to California, and hung out with Joey playing video games, and probably got bored and depressed from inactivity in an unfamiliar environment without any friends. Sure, the Bosas provided an explanation—Joey was out with an Injury, too, and they were more than brothers but also best friends supporting each other—but I still believe and always will believe that Nick owed it to his teammates, who had elected him a captain, to be on the sideline in Columbus.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
apparently once a buckeye always a buckeye comes with caveats. He left to get his body right for the biggest audition of his life. These are kids playing a game with no guarantees for success or longevity.
If you were a low level manager with supervisory status at a small level startup and a corporate giant offered you upper management with potential for partnership, you are taking that position. Not even blinking an eye, but because there is some stigma around taking care off yourself by people who will never do what he will do, he is in the wrong simply because there was a C on his chest.
Talk about comparing apples to oranges. We have some of the best facilities around. How can you compare Ohio State to a start up? We just need someone to start posting the "it's a trap" meme everytime Nick leaving is brought up.
College football to the NFL = million$$ of difference$$ guy
And by the way it was comparing hypothetical job opportunities not Ohio State to private practices
So that's more like leaving my job several months early for a position at a bigger company 6 months down the road. All while preaching brotherhood prior to leaving. This same job I left also happens to have one of the best training programs in the world for my chosen profession. Also it's not like the NFL wasnt gonna take him if he stuck around.
Soooo you’re point about all of this is rehab facilities? Not the concern for the physical well being and mental wellness of a kid? Did you play with him? Were you on the team at the time? Coaches and teammates love him and respect his decision, Nick Saban that you?
Way to twist what I wrote. I wont argue with you if you cant be mature enough to read what I wrote with out making it fit your narrative. I guess I was just raised different. If I shake someone's hand or sign a contract you can guarantee I will follow though as long as it's possible. Him sticking around as a vocal leader wouldn't have hurt his physical well being or his NFL prospects.
I signed on the dotted line for the United States of America, served six years, and was honorably discharged. I know to "honor" a contract sir. You are out of line thinking you know me or know how I was raised or suggest I am immature. Jog on mate.
It was HIS decision, if he FELT his physical rehabilitation would be handled better in a warm climate, under HIS time schedule, with HIS blood-line family, then so be it.
There are seven to nine other captains in any given year plus coaches, support staff, and others. Nick Bosa cheer leading doesn't make a difference. What if he had set-backs with the staff, what if they prescribed treatment that was incorrectly performed or administered. You cannot be 100 percent certain it wouldn't have hurt his money or prospects.
PS.. I didn't twist anything, I read between the lines. Him staying at Ohio State is/was more important in your mind (Well, he should've done this or stayed because of that) than what he felt was correct. So yes, you don't care about his well-being, otherwise you would've relented, acknowledged your error instead of verbally attacking me.
Verbally attacking you yet you said I didnt care about his health and compared me to the ultimate hypocrite in Nick Saban. You attacked my character because and adjusted the lines you are reading between. I was raised to NEVER back out of a commitment unless there was no other choice. You attack my opinion with baseless facts. You dont know me anymore than I know you. However I didnt compare you to the ultimate hypocrite in Saban. Maybe you should relax and realize that people can have differing opinions with out attacking their character.
Ps Thanks for your service.
Thank you for your support +1
More like leaving your "room and board" internship early to go back to an intensive training facility for 6 months before accepting a round of interviews with millions of dollars on the line.
Everything that happens-good and bad-should motivate you to be persistent. ~JT
I cringed when I read the section on the Bosa[s],assuming the debate would be reborn. That said, I’m w Outdoorbuckeye. Not playing wasn’t the issue. It was leaving his team and a facility - fine as any - where he could have began rehabbing. In the end, it’s well past us.
Beat the Kitty Kats.
A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him, complacency keeps him asleep.
After all, the elder Bosa gave us this....
Nick didn't come to Ohio State to play school. It's completely ridiculous to shit on the kid for not sticking around and maintaining his amateur status unnecessarily while taking classes for no reason other than to please weirdos like you who think you're owed anything from 19 and 20 year old kids who put their bodies and future earning potential on the line every Saturday so that you can get a dopamine rush as a byproduct of *their* hard work. Bosa made the smart call, and it's telling that his teammates supported him 100 percent in doing so.
Outdoor isn’t shitting on anybody as much as expressing an opinion. An opinion I don’t feel is out of left field and frankly agree with. In ranger battalion we had 19-20 year old “kids” that are recommended for promotion, become leaders, get hurt and would never leave their buddies. So 19-20 year old kids can and do make decisions that put something greater than themselves above themselves. Thank God they do, because it’s rare in this day. Do I, Outdoor or many others expressing this view have any ill will toward Nick? Hell no. That dude was a blast to watch demoralize and wreck qb’s and ol’s. I wish him the best and appreciate all he did and does to rep OSU. That said, Chase had a decision he could have made two weeks ago and their is just a little more to be said about a captain, a leader putting his boys first. That’s what leaders do. Even in the military, we’re damn proud of our unit and country...but those aren’t the reasons we drive on...it’s about those boys that look up to you. And if you think anybody on that team was going to say a disparaging word about Nick, you need to put the crack pipe down. Alpha’s that look up to someone aren’t going to cry about it, but you’d have a tough sled uphill to prove it didn’t affect that unit last year. That said...best to Nick and thanks for the memories! But I’d ride with Chase, leaders lead.
Be a good person but don’t waste your time trying to prove it. #MeNeither #HarbaughOrDeath
1) College football players don't face prosecution under the UCMJ for leaving a football team. Totally different context and incentive structure. Football is a business in which some athletes have an opportunity to make tens of millions of dollars; military service is not. Pretty bonkers comparison, imo.
2) Chase stuck around because he was facing, at most, a four-game suspension and he was not injured. Bosa, by all accounts, would not have been physically able to play until--at the earliest--the B1G championship, and even then would not have been at 100 percent health. Again, his decision involved a completely different calculus from Chase's. I don't see how the two can be compared.
Bonkers? You clearly missed the entire point. Putting your buddies above yourself. What the hell does UCMJ have anything to do with the point I’m making? None. I’m talking about young men that aren’t all about themselves. Guys I’ve watched get shot, injured, blown up and rub dirt on it and drive on.
If the warrior correlations are lost on you...I’m not sure how else to put it on construction paper with crayon for you. The good thing is there are “kids” out there that do it so kids back here can make those million dollar decisions for “themselves”.
Again nobody is pissing on Nick. Simply pointing out days and times are different. Men who have truly led, get it. If you don’t...not sure what to tell you.
Thank you for this. I have no bad feelings for Nick. He handled things differently than I would but I didnt say he was wrong just that I didnt agree. I'll die on that hill cause that is how I was raised. I appreciate what he did while he was here and he is still a Buckeye imho. I made a promise last weekend to help chainsaw some wood up. I pinched my sciatic nerve but I still lived up to my promise regardless of my health/well being. My word means everything to me. Thanks for your service by the way.
I made a promise last weekend to help chainsaw some wood up. I pinched my sciatic nerve but I still lived up to my promise regardless of my health/well being. My word means everything to me.
oh my god hahahahahahhahaha give me a fucking break
Oh boy, more petty childish crap.
Small people say petty things. You can’t have an opinion unless you’re ready to argue with ignorance.
Sorry, the Bosa family are the last people I want to hear this take from ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#”The decision was made for us”. Uh okay John, ok.
We’re winding this week down, so much to digest. The return of CY, the start of the “2-game season,” it’s another opportunity for this team to prove what we think we already know. Man I am so stoked for this weekend
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
It’s Penn State on the docket this week so I’ve heard. How fitting that Sam Hubbard and Joey Bosa are listed one and two. We have had some great pick sixes, the Braxton highlight XBrax TD, but Bosa’s destruction of Hacklinburg with his own player only ranks second to Hubbard’s takedown of McSorley and Barkley in his one set of arms. I hope this year’s great moment is seeing Franklin smugless and despondent from an historic beatdown.
The soldier is my son. The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.
Plus, the all-grays are simply outstanding.
Great, now you got me hungry to see more. Where's the gif with Bosa using the RB to tackle the QB?
Never noticed Bosa's footwork when he realizes that it's Lynch who is going to (or going to try to) pick him up. He goes from zero to 60 real fast.
One of the greatest plays in Buckeye history... the walk off sack, using the opponent's RB to facilitate said sack. Outstanding!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
These videos are bringing a flood of emotion back to these plays. This is one of the best sacks in history of the Buckeyes.
Hopefully we see more of the same this weekend
I have a PSU fan as a co worker. Shockingly, he’s quite annoying and likes to talk about our “rivalry”. He also thinks they have a real shot at winning. Would love it if someone would make a yelling lady/cat meme for this argument. She would make a perfect PSU fan yelling “OSU is our rival” as the cat calmly responds.
We beat PSU 80% of the time. PSU's rival is Pitt, nice to see PSU came back to win that one.
Man, there you go, making shit up again. Ohio State leads the series with Penn State, 19–14. Even if you factor in the vacated 38-14 win in 2010, that’s 59%, not 80%. To have beaten them 80% of the time, the record would 27-7. And no, I’m not pro-PSU but I am pro-facts. You should try it.
Yes, Iowa, 80% is absurd. However, early on from 1912 thru' the 1980, Penn State had a clear advantage (much like Michigan) over the Buckeyes 6-2, giving Ohio State a low 25% win ratio.
When the two teams started playing again in 1993 because Penn State had joined the Big Ten, Ohio State has had the upper hand 17-8. But even then winning 17 of 25 is 68%, not 80%.
If you look most recently since Tressel's 2002 national champion season, Ohio State has a great advantage at 12-4 for a high 75% win ratio. Close, but that's still not 80%.
I was told there would be no math...
60% of the time it works every time...
Like Yogi Berra says, "It's 90% mental. The other half is physical."
Look at the last 20 years. 16-4.
Also, let me add, Buckeyes won 8 outa last 10.
That looks like a solid 64% by good mathematicals.
Look at the last 20 years. 16-4.
Then fucking say that but that’s not what you said nor even implied. Get it right the first time. I mean, crap, if you’re going to slap an * on it after the fact, why not just say that going back to last year, we're undefeated?
Sorry, BH7, Penn State has won 6 times, not 4 times, over the past 20 years from 1999-2018.
And I know, AZB13, there is not supposed to be so much math. :)
Fifth smallest pointspread on Sat this year. Gonna be a blowout unless we play sloppy.
I feel PSU is lost. And Seeking approval from somewhere. Is it because their Rival Pitt has more NCs?
Trust me! I'm an Engineer.
Actually, if the matchups for Rivalry Week are any guide—which is when Ohio State plays Michigan, Iowa plays Nebraska, Illinois plays Northwestern, Indiana plays Purdue, and Wisconsin plays Minnesota—Penn State’s rival is Rutgers and Michigan State’s is Maryland.
Face value for the penn state game is $198 + fees for a total of ~$212. We are 3 days out from the game and there are still face value tickets available on Ticketmaster. OSU is very close to that fine line of asking too much for these bigger games
Amen. Next year Bowling Green, Buffalo, Rutgers, Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana and m*chigan. The first three will have plenty of extra seats available. But they all will have some if the biggest top out at 220.
Secondary market is hurting too. Just last year i bought two at cost for m*chigan the week of The Game
They could solve all of this by just changing the ticket price by seat. Instead of every seat being $212 why not have the seats range from around $100-350 based on location. They could do it in a way where they make the same amount of money and it would be much more easily affordable for fans that don't mind being behind the endzone in C deck.
Agreed. Why is college football like the one sport where every seat in the stadium costs the exact same amount?
they already are tiered in that if you want better seats you need to make a donation each year, and the amount impacts your ablity to buy better seats. If they up those prices they may get less in donations and not make it up in ticket sales. Public sales are merely a way to fill in seats not sold to students, faculty, alumni and donors.
Also, since many of the less desirable seats sell at a discount to students they already have tiered pricing. So if you drop those prices mny seats would be unavailable do to student purchase and upset buyers who would now hav to buy more expensive tickets.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
I wish I could take my kids to football games. Tickets for 5 - $1,000. That's either a top priority in life or high-income families only.
9, 17, 42.
Days, hrs., & minutes till the skunk weasels get Owned...again.
Silver Bullets. Predator. Fields. &. Day. Will. Rule.
1st Punk St
Owning. skunk. weasels. Is. Tradition.
I feel like I'm the only one on this site, and around town, who's nervous about these next 2 games. I don't even have specific reasons why I'm nervous, other than we've lost to far lesser opponents that we never expected to lose to. Yes, I think this is a great team and they SHOULD beat all B1G opponents this year (at least). But some memories are entirely too fresh at this point, and the game stomach has already begun for PSU.
No, I am with you. I know that what we say on sites like this has zero bearing on the game but as a fan base we had been so good until the last week or so taking it one game at a time and not getting overly cocky about the team but now starting to see comments not just in the forum but in the articles about the best team ever. It might be stupid but I believe in sports karma. Both of the coming opponents are good regardless of what our banter is. I for one am nervous and will not feel comfortable until the clock strikes zero and I see the Buckeyes ahead on the scoreboard.
Beat Penn State. Only thought that matters this week.
We know that if we play well we will beat anyone, since we are the most complete team in the country. But of course, anything can happen in sports.
That’s funny, I expressed the same concerns yesterday and got labeled by you as pro-PSU.
We’ve had a 10-week tuneup for a 2-game regular season. 2019 starts Saturday, which is why Kevin’s hyperbole also rings hollow—I’m enjoying the hell out if this season, too, but taking it one game at a time just like Ryan Day is trying to get his players to do, living in the moment, and refusing to get too far ahead of myself. It’s how I’ve learned to condition myself over the years as a Buckeye fan to brace myself for disappointment. That’s not to say disappointment will cone but if it does, the hard landing hurts a lot less.
Were running the table.
So would you say Iowabuckeyes and Buckshave7 are now a more legit rivalry than OSU-PSU?
Im an tOSU graduate. My rival is TTUN.
The thing is . . . during every one of those past all-time great seasons - e.g., Washington 1991, Nebraska 1995, Miami 2001, USC 2004, etc. - fans and media kept asking in October, in November, in Bowl season, “is this one of the best cfb teams of all time?” The hype didn’t seem to hurt those teams. The hype is a constant variable.
Other teams were similarly hyped halfway or most-of-the-way through various seasons (e.g., Alabama 2018), only to fall short, but it probably had nothing to do with karma. If karma were at play, the 80s/90s Hurricanes would have had much less hardware.
Truly great teams match their hype
You also didn’t have the internet and social media (Facebook was launched in 2004, Twitter in 2006) and the constant onslaught and bombardment of hyperbole infecting people’s brains like a parasite coursing through your veins and laying eggs. There’s no filter today like there was back then when access to lofty expectations was limited to ESPN, the newspaper, and the evening news. Now, it’s everywhere.
Don't forget Myspace in 2003...
Great point about the internet and social media, but that cuts both ways. I would add other electronic media to that mix. Well, a lot of players these days tend to live in a bubble partly because of the profusion of all that interactive media . . . if they're not practicing, going to class and tutoring sessions, eating at training table, etc., they're typically playing video games or texting their friends. Because of social media, they can very narrowly select whichever media they wish to consumer and interact with.
In the past, most young adults read newspapers and lot of fans - and players are fans before they become big time cfb players - read national print publications like Sports Illustrated.
For these and other reasons, I suspect that the hype factor is no greater now, just different, and its effects probably depend on how individual players choose to interact with the hype and/or the extent to which they create their own bubbles.
like a parasite coursing through your veins and laying eggs
Correction, I believe you meant like a parasite entering your penis and laying eggs.
1968 USC with OJ, 2002 Miami, and 2006 Ohio State among others would like to have a word with you.
I agree, we'll have eight long months to debate where this team falls in the pecking order. Until then, just beat everybody.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
Nervous gets you nowhere. Prepare and execute and there isn't a team in CFB that can hang with the Buckeyes for 60 minutes.
Beat Penn State.
Thanks, coach. Now, can you direct us fans to wherever we can go to properly prepare for something that’s entirely out of our hands? Being an Ohio State fan is like getting into a driverless car—all we can do is strap ourselves in, pray that the engineers knew what they were doing, that the systems don’t fail, that some other jackoff doesn’t do something stupid and reckless, and that we survive the trip. We are powerless to control our destiny because we are living vicariously through other people’s experiences.
Hell. I’m just happy we finally got some upgrades at cheerleader.
Yeah I'm relegated to the couch, so I'm entitled to my nerves.
You’re not alone. For me, the question marks still existing about the health of Cooper and Browning are big deals. Those guys are key players for games like this. The weather, the potential of a cold, wet field limiting our skill players in both of the next two games is what I see as our biggest adversity. Controlling for that, I think we physically are just better, in every unit.
So it comes down to mental preparation and focus, which is what collapsed against Iowa, against Purdue, early in the PSU games the last two years. But I have seen this team play only a handful of bad quarters all year. They have started strong, they have been very strong in the middle, and with rare exceptions they have finished strong even without starters. It’s possible that something is mentally not right, but not likely. Also, where previous years Meyer was sticking to his guns even if a defense was shutting down what he came in with, Day seems to not only be good at in-game adjustments but seems to look forward to them.
"Woody would have wanted it that way"
It isn't so much "not nervous" as it is confidence just overwhelming it.
The Buckeyes to me want the test. They want a "real" fight so they can show how good they are. I think this team is going to be scary good the next three weeks. If PSU wasn't top ten I'd be less confident.
You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight.
I am right there with you, the overly optimistic majority is not helping my nervousness.
Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!
The 3 year case going to the Supreme Court in 2004 was an interesting data point as well. IIRC Clarett sat out his Junior year while litigating it, then didn’t have the NFL chops once he was eligible
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The Clarett example also bolsters the idea that's it would be bad for a college player to sit out a year. Clarett, essentially sat for 2 years and while he may have had other issues, not playing and being 20 pounds heavy took it's toll on his NFL chances.
Clarett had no chance to win his case for early entry into the NFL. The bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA states that a player has to be 3 years removed from their high school graduating class to be eligible to play in the NFL.
Sorry but I see it as restraint of trade. The NBA has a one-and-done, while baseball, hockey and soccer draft kids out of high school. Those sports also have minor league systems while the NFL does not. The CBA is blatant collusion that mainly exists because the NFL wants to protect its minor league system and the NFLPA wants to extend the career longevity of its current members, who are the people it was created for, not to make it easier for college freshmen and sophomores to come in and take their jobs. Both parties have separate agendas that the CBA protects.
I agree with everything you have just stated. Unfortunately, the legal agreement between the NFL and NFLPA was cited as the reason the courts sided with the NFL and has not been challenged as "collusion" because both parties are in agreement.
I would add that good college football programs want to protect what they have, too. If it was one and done, or open, then college football might drop to college hockey level in quality and fan interest.
We as fans benefit from these kids being forced to wait three years. All in all, a good rule, but then a guy like Clarett comes along who physically anyway, was ready to make some $$$.
Beat Penn State.
computer models don't hand out trophies
Good advice for both players and fans to keep in mind.
Computer models also don't beat Michigan.
That whale vomit story might be the worst link ever. It obviously caught my attention since I clicked on it, but it looks to have been written by a tween girl with a bunch of exclamation points all around, and it turns out that the guy doesn't even know for sure if it really is ambergris or not. There's 3-4 minutes I will never get back unfortunately.
I was borderline shocked that the Gophers stayed in the top 10. I am glad they are getting some respect, but I fully expected them to be around where Baylor is but the commissioner hung tough with Row the Boat. Now I hope they take care of business down the stretch and come to Indy to face OSU at 11-1. Then they get theirs in a big way, but playing PSU/ttun/top 10 Minny is a solid way to head into the playoff.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
Gophers have a better win than Clemson has or can get
That's true. And as much as I hate to agree with an asshat like Rex Ryan, he is right when he says that Clemson would beat Minnesota by at least 20 or maybe 30 points.
You never know. I thought Clemson would beat North Carolina by 20 or 30 points...
That is why they play the game!
"A man drove his girlfriend across United States, found her a place of excile...and impersonated her on social media..."
Hasn't one of Hairball's multiple personalities been under this alias since skunk weasel u. hired the wannabe, never-will-be mirage HC.
Troglodytic: a prehistoric cave dweller. a person of degraded, primitive, or brutal character. a person unacquainted with affairs of the world.
Another. Alien. Alias.
The 99.5 percentile is "elitist of the elite" territory. The 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers were at 99.5, the 1993 FSU Seminoles and 2001 Miami Hurricanes were 99.4.
It would be interesting to see what % of snaps the 1s, 2s & 3s had for each of these teams, as i would believe our 1s have on average taken maybe 60-66% of the available snaps.
Let the kids go to the NFL right out of HS. Works well for the other sports.
And I assure you the NFL team investing say $5M in an 18 y/o will do all it can to protect the kid from injury, until he fully develops.
^^^this is sarc... right? NFL is not in the player development business they are in the player replacement and upgrade business
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Im serious. What is so special about the NFL that MLB, NBA, NHL, NASCAR and PGA already do on this issue? Its only an NFL issue.
You have MLB clubs giving 15y/o's million $ signing bonuses to someday in 5 years make it to the show and that is a very low %.
NFL doesnt make enough $ that they couldnt afford to carry say each team use $10M/year of player development salaries that may or may not work out to on field starters one day?
There is minor league baseball where they go to develop.
A very rare HS basketball player can jump right into the NBA, but it's still a very different thing than the NFL. Depending on the position, football players can put on about 35% additional body weight during college and come out completely different beasts than how they came in. It's not the same thing at all. Even if they said, "go work out with Marotti for 3 years" they still aren't going to be ready to play the game having been out of competition for that long.
The PGA and NASCAR comparisons don't even warrant responses.
You are believing what the NFL wants to believe, so NFL doesnt bear any cost of player development as do all other pro sports leagues.
My point is a $1M NFL 18y/o bonus baby doesnt have to plan to play in games for few seasons, could be on the practice team solely for a few seasons to bulk up. Why cant that happen?
Here is why eighteen year old kids don't go directly to the NFL.
I get the argument you are trying to make. But you sound like an NFL owner. I say NFL should have the right to invest $ in 18y/o and develop him for couple years. Let the 18y/o make his $ during that time. If the NFL has $ tied to a kid, last thing they want him to do is get hurt and never make the active roster.
Yes. I sound like an owner. However I had hoped to sound like someone concerned for the well-being of these kids.
I do not disagree that the NFL should be paying a bit more of the freight with regards college football. Most other pro-sports pay the freight for developing players via their academies or farm systems. I just don't think we should expect them to take those risks or pay those bills when they don't need to. The three year rule is also a typical sort of labor union protection. A point of the union is to protect its members from cheaper labor. So the rule works both for the owners and the players.
I tend to think Clarett demonstrated the other reasons the rule is in place besides eighteen year old kids not being physically ready.
Interesting as a society that we have 18y/o brave soldiers on the front lines making $25k/yr.
Yet we cant have an 18y/o with a Million $ NFL development contract be in an NFL team's scout squad.
It’s not amazing, it’s free enterprise. The NFL owners don’t want to pay for a developmental league or training system and as a result, they don’t. They want immediate returns on their investment. It’s pretty simple.
Talk about missing the point, but ok.
it’s free enterprise.
Also, how does monopoly fit into free enterprise?
This is the dirty truth a lot of anti-regulation folks don’t seem to understand. Free enterprise very often leads to monopolies or market concentrations (duopolies, etc.). See: the Gilded Age.
Watch many hours of video, identify their vulnerabilities and exploit them with strength and fierce aggression. They're in our way and must be eliminated with attitude.
Ooooohhhh, I like this comment!!! <FIRED UP>
Looking forward to this Buckeye team proving the computer models are correct. Historically in research, theory and experimentation have been at odds over which leads, which is more important etc. But fans fill stadiums to see the play and fill the posts to argue the rankings, model and otherwise.
This Saturday its the going to be great to just watch the Buckeyes win. It will be even more gratifying to watch them smoke the psu team.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
I couldn’t have picked out more appropriate names for long snappers if I tried.
Ohio State is favored by more against Penn State (-18) than it was against Cincinnati (-17).
— Ari Wasserman (@AriWasserman) November 20, 2019
9 additional games of dominant play will do that, but it's still fun to think about. Not often the #8 team in the country is an 18 point dog.
Agreed! And weve had 4 opponents so far this year with lower point spreads in total.
When PSU plays a team with a winning record this year, theyve only beaten them by < 7 pts.
Another Buckeye beatdown in the shoe. We all know it. Vegas knows its.
well, PSU and Cinci have the same record so I guess they are comparable...
HISTORICALLY DOMINANT. I've been saying this for a few weeks, but at some point I honestly think we're going to start having to treat this Ohio State team like one of the best teams of all-time instead of just one of the best teams in the nation this season.
If they win another five games then we can discuss this team's place in college football history. Right now, they have PSU to deal with, and then the greatest rivalry in sports... on the road. It's about to get rough, so let's see how they fare before crowning them one of college football's all-time best teams.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Had to come see my dawg @Joe_Burrow10 while Im here! pic.twitter.com/ctFfQbgzJH
— Cardale Jones (@CJ1two) November 19, 2019
Just a couple guys swapping 'Bama victory stories
Yeah, and just a couple of 3rd-string Ohio State QBs.
At 6'3" with pads Jeaux Dawg looks big... until he's next to Cardale!
I've been saying this for a few weeks, but at some point I honestly think we're going to start having to treat this Ohio State team like one of the best teams of all-time instead of just one of the best teams in the nation this season.
A comment like that will or would be much more appropriate on January 14 than it is now, Kevin. Or at the very least, after the B1G title game. I remember thinking that in 1969, before numerous disappointing Rose Bowls in the 70's, in 1998, and early in 2015. Breathe dude, breathe.
Nah. As I explained later, I’d much rather be aware that I’m watching one of the greatest college football teams of all time while they’re still playing than after they’re done. Doesn’t mean they can’t slip up and there aren’t still games to be played.
Would Young still have been a top-five pick if he sat out this entire season? Maybe.
Nope, not a chance as he was injured much of last season and didn't show anything close to his dominance this season. Showing this years ability plus the fact that he's shown that he is not injury prone is going to move him up the board.
Now flip this comment to Nick Bosa. Wasn't nearly as dominant as a Sophomore, sat out all by 2.5 games as a Junior, went #2 overall.
The Ohio State University - "Haters love us!"
Baskin Robbins? Nah, Haskins Dobbins - KannonMic
Nick Bosa had "out-of-this-world" numbers in his first 2 1/2 games last year before he was injured. Had he sat out the entire 2018 season after the numbers he posted in 2017...would he have been the #2 pick overall?
Let’s enjoy one of the greatest teams of all time. And ignore the narrative later when ESPN declares football was just down last year. Tua hurt, Clemson out of sync at times....
So now you're making up something, that hasn't happened, to get mad about? Seems legit.
To be fair, that did deserve to be repeated.
I guess that was an iPhone special. I post 4:25 AM on my desk top before going to work. I’m on the phone.
You guys love media hype.
Saturday is just another game we are favored in. And weve had 4 games with lower pointspreads to date than this opponent. Also, this one happens to be a home game.
Sam Hubbard is sort of lost in the list of great OSU DE's with the Bosas being so good and Chase being so dominant. Being in Cincy probably doesn't help notoriety either but man....LJ can coach em.
Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.
Good Wednesday all.
There is a reason that these games are played.
Go Bucks! Beat not-our-rival and then crush the dreams of the rival
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I don’t think people realize how extremely rare it is to suffer a career altering injury in football.
2x account suspension survivor
come on man
And you can win a special award if you can tell me the nuance of why I went with “us” instead of “we.”
Most of most of my grammar atrocities are unintentional, this one wasn’t.
Heard David Pollack on.Espn this morning. He said Chase Young is the reason that Ohio State is better than LSU and Clemson. They don't have him and he's the difference maker.
That’s such a lazy take. Ohio State is better because they have an ENTIRE defense that is light years ahead of LSU
True. But it isn’t light years ahead of Clemson’s. Pollock is getting a bit ahead of himself but I’ll take the compliment, especially from an ESPN analyst.
Nut - You are 100% right that Ohio State is not light years ahead of Clemson, I was mainly speaking LSU vs. Ohio State. I understand that it was supposed to be a compliment, but he is essentially saying if Chase Young is hurt against Penn State, LSU = OSU defensively.
playing at less than 100 percent would expose his son to a higher risk of injury of other body parts
What happened to Tua is a prime example of the wisdom of this.
In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...
Hopefully one part of college athletes being allowed to earn money on name and likeness will be longer college careers and more bowl game participation. A first round qb prospect would have to know that pro success isn’t automatic especially when drafted by a bad team i.e. Washington. So a player like Dwayne Haskins would have more brand appeal at osu than Washington. This would create an interesting decision for college star athletes. Maybe the money would have been enough to hang on one more year? Just spitballing here.
Jeff David story was really good read, amazing family now living in Columbus.
This team is ready to show everyone how good they are, can't wait to watch it unfold
I am shocked to hear John Bosa of all people say that. No disrespect to him because I know he's simply looking out for his sons but he's always struck me as being all about making business decisions at the cost of your CFB career.
'95 Nebraska ~ the gold standard!
Congrats to Washington State. Carry on ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain