Ohio State Remains No. 2 in the College Football Playoff Rankings Behind LSU

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JM's picture

Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye

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NHBuckeye's picture

Beat PSU and we are back up to #1.  Even Pawwwl F. said that today, which was a little surprising.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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KBonay's picture

Finishing with wins over (3) top 15 programs (Penn State/Michigan/Wisky-Minny) should be more impressive than Arkansas, Texas A&M  and say, Georgia.  

Funny to note, how Auburn snuck into the top 15, makes LSU win look better.  And really, helps Oregon too.

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Moo Strength's picture

So basically what they’re telling us is a lost to a 3 loss Auburn (Lol!?!??) or a loss to a 4 loss USC (LOL?!? Squared) is better than a loss to a 1 loss Minnesota?

I know it’s hyperbole, but WTF... seriously? Apparently The only requirement for being on the CFP committee is having a degree from barber college or clown college. If ever I needed my Godzilla facepalm image

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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Jarhead1944's picture

Not sure they are really that skilled.  Barbers and clowns work hard.

Leatherneck1980

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BucksAndBourbon86's picture

Definitely agree! Not sure why either Pac-12 team is above Penn State. Neither have a great out of conference win, or even a great conference win, as the rest of the Pac-12 is mediocre at best. And they haven’t played each other yet. Also both of their losses seem to be worse than the Penn State loss. 

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PhillyNut's picture

I also have a major problem with the difference between Georgia and Wisconsin. Anyone pretending that South Carolina is much different than Illinois this year other than getting the SEC conference bump is just full of it. So Wisky loses on the road by 1 to a now 6-4 team and Georgia loses by 3 at home to a now 4-6 team. Georgia beats ND by 6 who then gets destroyed by a ttun who got destroyed by Wisky. Georgia owns a 7 point victory over now #15 Auburn while Wisky has a 2 point win over now #17 Iowa. The only difference is that Wisky also had to face the buzz saw that is Ohio State while Georgia feasted on an overrated Florida. That apparently is worth an 8 position difference.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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PhillyNut's picture

What I have come to realize is that the entire voting to this point has been completely driven by a few things:

1) Early season OOC wins by SEC teams against Oregon, ND, Miami, and Texas

2) Complete disregard to reducing the value of the ND, Miami and Texas wins as they have stumbled

3) Any loss within the SEC is seen as a quality loss, even when it is at home to a now 4-6 team.

4) Losses by SEC OOC does not devalue those losing teams as quality wins for other SEC teams (see losses by Vanderbilt, Missouri, Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi State)

5) Past champions get a bump even if other teams are also undefeated.  Yes, to a degree there is an eye test and stats involved but Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State get more leeway than others just because of what they have done in the past. Trying to not be a homer but I do believe this year the Buckeyes have earned it whereas Clemson and Bama had not but the Buckeyes have gotten credit in past years when it was questionable that they should.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Teams like Texas should be devalued, and our win over Cincinnati gets better all the time.

As for moving up this weekend... I think if we beat Penn State big, we could move up to #1. 

If we win 20-19, we probably stay the same.

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Our 3 top 15 wins will be better than LSU's remaing 1 win

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buckeye1964's picture

not that surprising - only one week this year has finebaum had the buckeyes at 2 - and that was after the bama game where he said LSU deserved to be 1 that week - and for that week i don't have a problem with it. but now that LSU isn't playing anybody the next 2 weeks and ohio state is...........the bucks will be back on top next week.

danny

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Brooksie's picture

When we Beat PSU and we are back up to #1.

FIFY

Bucks Fan since 1970

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

I think they may be #2 one more week, but will then move to #1 after the UM game. If they are #1 after PSU, then they are a lock for #1 in the final poll. If they are #1 after UM, then the committee has wiggle room to flip it back to LSU after the title games.

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SilverHaven's picture

The Rivalry game against Michigan is actually the quarter-final game of the CFP playoffs. 
And the Penn State game is the must-win to get into the quarter finals.
The Big Ten title match-up is just a follow-on trap game before the CFP.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Ole Buckeye's picture

I think for CFP seeding, our margins of victory these next two weeks (assuming they are both victories!) will be important. 

If we squeak by PSU and Mich, we'll be #2 or #3. Still undefeated. 

Like many of us fans, I am just trying to wrap my head around just how good this team is?? I am a little afraid to say it out loud but it seems more and more likely that this could be one of those special teams. 

Penn State is coming for us, trying to "fix" their season at the Buckeyes' expense... I believe Ryan Day will coach his ass off this week and we are going to love the results.  I'm gonna go light a candle!!

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Jah's picture

Lsu has such a bad defense, I don't know how osu (and honestly Clemson too) isn't considered "unequivocally better". But I'm still happy for Joe ofc

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BuckeyeHunter's picture

You have to start questioning it. Notice how when LSU played a good defense in Auburn, they only got 23 points. Should be interesting what Georgia could do to them. The second they play a great offensive and defensive team, LSU is toast.

Ohio Against The World

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buckeye1964's picture

i'd like to see LSU and georgia get in - i love the buckeyes in  either matchup........hell, i don't see any team that is complete enough to beat ohio state this year (unless they beat themselves)

danny

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

How nuts would it be to have OSU beat two SEC teams in the CFP?

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YinzerBuckeye's picture

SEC fans would just make the excuse that the Buckeyes are actually an SEC team above the Mason Dixon-line.

"Why doesn't Ohio State put a logo on their helmet? Because they'd rather cover it with your misery.
Block by block, hit by hit, score by score. Football is art, and the helmet is their canvas." - Doug Stamper

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OHinTN's picture

It would not surprise me if Georgia beat LSU.  They have the best defense LSU has played and a better offense than Auburn.  The problem with Georgia is their lack of playmakers/gamebreakers at WR.

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Moo Strength's picture

As good as Clemson, Georgia, and LSU’s defenses are supposed to be, I think Ohio State will hang 40 on them too. Yes, I know I’m a homer and I’ve drank the Kool-Aid but this is arguably the greatest Ohio state college football team in history and maybe the most talented ever. Including everything Alabama’s ever put out

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

I want nothing more than this to be true, but I think we should wait until the season is over before we declare them the greatest. Let them achieve. We should just enjoy the ride. Beat PSU, Beat Michigan, Beat Minny/Wisconsin, get to the playoffs.

Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North. 

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Buckloving's picture

Yep a lot of people say our 15 squad was our best but they found a way to lose a game. Focus on one game at a time and we'll be okay

bobbyd

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

15 might've had better players, but 19 has better coaches.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Ryder's picture

The 98 and 95 teams had just as much talent and found a way to lose....just sayin.

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deg0ey's picture

LSU's defense is supposed to be good? They gave up 38 to Texas (18th in the country in points per game), 38 to Vanderbilt (128th), 28 to Florida (43rd ranked offense)...the only top-10 offense they've played all season is Alabama and they gave up 41.

If I'm Ryan Day and I come up against LSU in the playoff, I'd be hanging my head in shame if I don't put up at least 50 points on that Big 12 defense.

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buckeye1964's picture

how  is burrow "the favorite" for the heisman  when fields has a 31-1 td/pick ratio? 

danny

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Yardage I'm sure..our qb sits a lot of time more than burrow for sure...

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

Fields has thrown about 2/3 of the total pass attempts that Burrow has so far this season.

Burrow - 348 attempts  (38 TD/6 INT) vs Fields - 230 attempts (31 TD/1 INT)

Priorities:

1) Beat the rival

2) Win NC

3) Individual awards

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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swainpm's picture

Burrow Completion % = 78.6%
Fields 69.1%

& Joe has thrown the ball 268/341 vs Fields' 159/230....so Burrow has 38 more completions than Fields has attempts. Burrow has also played higher ranked competition to date.

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Jroc021's picture

Totally surprised they didn't slip them in since they play GA this weekend, you know, to 'Boost" GA's schedule.

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painterlad's picture

IF Ohio State dominates their next three games like they should, they will get the #1 seed. 

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

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seyekcuB's picture

I'm still not convinced LSU runs the table...at all.

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TNT's picture

Jeez, with a "good loss" LSU could move up to the coveted #0 spot

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HandsOfSweed's picture

Lolol!! Like they reached nirvana and became enlightened or some shit.

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BigDrill's picture

Like Finebaum would say, a loss in the SEC West is like a win for other conferences. 

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7thLetter's picture

Finebaum also said this is the last week LSU is at 1. He said we would jump them if beat Penn State. I was shocked when I saw the video

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

I'm becoming less and less shocked with Paul. He's been relatively warm towards OSU ever since Urban left. It's actually refreshing to see him have some measured takes about us. Also, I must admit that I love when he shits all over Harbaugh and acknowledges how overrated Harbaugh is. 

Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North. 

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Ohio_Against_The_World's picture

coveted #0 spot

The Singularity 

When in doubt... Muck Fichigan

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Mips19's picture

Now I’m just picturing hundreds of Chase Young’s jumping on burrow, and him just jumping out of the pile 25ft in the air to throw a perfect 100 yard TD pass.

I ❤️ Harbaugh

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DaiTheFlu's picture

Nice to see PSU move up a spot before we plow them. I guess they moved up because they beat...an Indiana team that is good enough not to be ranked? 

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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7thLetter's picture

Indiana should be ranked and I think they have a good chance at beating teams 18 and up. Also Iowa should be ahead of Notre Dame if you compare common opponent (ttun) and their best win. I would love to watch Wisconsin and Florida go at it. 

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cledaybuck's picture

Why should Indiana be ranked?

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BucMan's picture

Because of their quality loss to OSU?  (and PSU for that matter!)

Year for what?

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Ole Buckeye's picture

One of my worries is that Indiana will beat TTUN before we get to beat a #14 scum team. 

So we'll go to Ann Arbor and TTUN will be ranked #22 or something. 

Ugh.

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cledaybuck's picture

One of my worries is that Indiana will beat TTUN before we get to beat a #14 scum team. 

Sounds more like a dream than a worry to me.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Yep^^^^
8-4 Michigan with a chance to lose another Bowl game and end the year with a 3 game losing streak would be pure gold.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

No...Minnesota lost and was moved down. 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Pank614's picture

Win the next 3 weeks against highly ranked opponents and I have a feeling our Buckeyes will be #1 in the final CFP rankings.

Shannon D Alexander

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DaiTheFlu's picture

How many losses will Auburn have to have to fall out of the op 15? 5? Seriously, the Auburn fetish is comical at this point. 

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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Jroc021's picture

You know, the 'Quality loss' metric that some conferences get. :)

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Buckeyebull64's picture

I’d say the same for Iowa too

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Mantis's picture

Difference is Iowa just beat a top 10 team this week.  Auburn picked up another quality loss.  

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DefenceWinsChampionships's picture

Meh, they’re ranked reasonably. They beat the #6 team and lost to #1, #4, and #11. Iowa is in a similar boat, beating #10, and losing to #8, #12, and #13. I would have them both above Notre Dame, but that’s splitting hairs. 

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Moo Strength's picture

6, 7 if they’re all SEC because they’re all quality loses

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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buckeye1964's picture

exactly - and even during wins, aurburn doesn't look good at all. 

danny

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DaiTheFlu's picture

Exactly this. They are absolutely terrible on offense and I'm still baffled as to how they beat Oregon.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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Yuman's picture

Wtf is USC doing there

Rlc

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Jarhead1944's picture

Allowing the ESPN clowns the chance to put their other favorite clown conference in the playoffs.

Leatherneck1980

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Knarcisi's picture

Actually the opposite. That’s Southern Cal. Bad news for Bama, as Utah was beaten by them and Oregon beat them. 

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216ToThe614's picture

We all know who #1 really is. Just keep winning, it'll take care of itself.

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
WB

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Bnglbck's picture

Yea brudda

Victory loves preparation

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OSUtopia's picture

I'm dreaming of a 13-0 OSU finish along with LSU losing to GA in the SEC game. 

Then 1)OSU 2)Clemson 3)Georgia 4)LSU

Georgia beats Clemson we beat LSU for an OSU/GA final. A chance to beat TWO SEC teams in one year. That would get these SEC freaks to shut the F up.

OSUtopia

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buckeyes763's picture

Georgia beating LSU and Oregon winning out would be a heck of a debate for the 4th spot

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Jarhead1944's picture

Why? At least seven Big Ten teams could beat Oregon.  But only four could beat Georgia.

Leatherneck1980

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7thLetter's picture

Georgia Beating LSU puts both in the playoffs. The writing is on the wall. LSU has too many quality wins to be left out because of that. The playoffs would be 1 OSU 

2 Georgia

3 Clemson

4 Lsu

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shiloh's picture

Depends on the score.

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

I don't think we need LSU to lose to take the #1 seed. If you pay attention to what the committee and most commentators have been saying, the consensus is that Ohio State is the better team, but LSU has the better resume. If Ohio State runs the table and beats 3 top 15 teams in Penn State, Michigan, and Minnesota/Wisconsin to add to their wins over Wisconsin and Cincinnati, then Ohio State's resume will compare just fine to LSU's wins over Florida, Auburn, Bama, Texas, and Georgia. 

There's also the fact that I think Ohio State will have more convincing wins over its opponents than LSU. 

What's going to impress the committee more, LSU beating #4 Georgia 45-38 or Ohio State crushing #8 Minnesota 52-17? 

I think we're going to jump LSU next Tuesday after we beat Penn State by 3-4 touchdowns, and then we're going to hold that spot until the playoffs begin. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

We don't just need 3 more wins. We need 3 quality wins with no close calls. 3 wins where most say Wow, that was amazing ! Win big and watch it all fall into place.

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SilverHaven's picture

True, Miami.  My personal preference is Ohio State stays at #2 and has a whole month to prepare for #3 Clemson.  We owe them big time. 
The Buckeyes are 0-3 against Clemson. 
They have a tombstone that reads 31-0, and
They broke the shoulder of our QB Braxton.

Then Ohio State can beat LSU and Jeaux Burreaux for all the marbles.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

I think we're going to face Clemson regardless, but I'd rather not have to meet them in the semifinal if we can avoid it. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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buckeye1964's picture

man, i want this ohio state team to play clemson. dabo needs a BIG dose of humility.

danny

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GINNandjuice's picture

Love to see how far down OK is 

All Glory is Fleeting

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Dignan's picture

ACC with 1 team, and the AAC with 3. Crazy.

On the run from Johnny Law...ain’t no trip to Cleveland.

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BigDrill's picture

Consonant mixup? We already know ESPN can’t spel. :)

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BucMan's picture

Sure adds some value to that Cinci win!

Year for what?

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Bocabuck's picture

USC & ISU are there to pill the Pac12 & Big12 along....

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Port Richey Buckeye's picture

Clobber State Penn and will be number one next Tuesday.

Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.

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BrutusBuckey3's picture

Shoulder shrug.

 O, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from Ohio
We're from Ohio...O-H
We're from Ohio...I-O
O, we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from Ohio

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mr.green's picture

Beat Penn State. Nothing else matters right now. 

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Couldn't be much more from the heart......

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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Iwouldliketotalktoyou's picture

Tough room tonight? You quote arguably one of Metallica's best songs and get a downvote?? Must be a Megadeth fan lurking.....

Gotta love it.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Seems like they need an open mind for a different view

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Forever trust in who we are...

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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YinzerBuckeye's picture

Rip their f#$@ng heads off and take their shoes!

"Why doesn't Ohio State put a logo on their helmet? Because they'd rather cover it with your misery.
Block by block, hit by hit, score by score. Football is art, and the helmet is their canvas." - Doug Stamper

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BuckeyeinSF's picture

This sets up for the winner of Wisconsin/Minnesota to also be a potential top 10 match up if we win the next 2.

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TNT's picture

Ah, yes. The scarcely heard from "Minneosta" checking in at #10.

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OSUBias's picture

ESPN spelled it Minisota last week. I wonder how high they have to get for folks to learn to spell. 

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bucks15's picture

This committee does not like Oklahoma- a night road win @ undefeated Baylor to only be sitting at 9. 

I think we know which conference champ is most likely to be on the outside looking in.

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DefenceWinsChampionships's picture

Yea, that’s lovely and all, but should they really jump PSU who beat the #10, and #17 ranked teams, and who have a better loss? They’re right where they belong if you look at total picture and not just “what have you done lately.”

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Which to be honest, I'm not sure what the hell the pac 12 has done, and specifically its top 2 teams to be ranked so firmly ahead of the big 12s top 2.

Feels like pandering to the conference who has been left the most. Doesn't hurt to have 3 Pac12 people on the committee to just 1 for the big 12. Granted both Oregon and Oklahoma's ADs need to recuse themselves when voting on that area, but it still has been the one continuing thing in these rankings I can't get on board with. Penn st and Oklahoma should both be in front of them, in my opinion.

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deacbfh3's picture

I do not understand the love for Utah.  Penn State and Oklahoma should both be ahead of them.  Maybe they slipped USC in to justify Utah’s loss.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

So is Penn State's win over 7-3 Pitt just as good as a win over Texas ATM?
I guess the 2019 Playoff committee talking point is 'best loss"

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q_juice20's picture

Hard to argue with a good, old fashioned Texas ATM. Almost as satisfying as a Portuguese breakfast. 

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

Haha WTF

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

I am actually getting to feel a little confident with the CFP committee this year. They do seem to be consistent, if nothing else. Alabama is holding steady at #5 even though Tua is out for the year. The committee has said that they don't project into the future and keeping Bama at #5 would be consistent with that view. Not ranking Texas A&M is also a feather in its cap. I think that the final four could play out like this:

1. Ohio State

2. LSU

3. Clemson

4. Oregon/Utah winner

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OSUBias's picture

They are not jumping LSU after they close out with a win over #4, not a chance in hell

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avail31678's picture

Why?  We’ll have two or three top-10 wins by then, hypothetically.

EDIT: two or three top-10 wins in addition to our current resume. 

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OSUBias's picture

Because they will have two wins over teams that will be ranked higher than any of our wins. PSU will drop out of the top 10 after we beat them, Michigan and Wisconsin might creep back into the top-10 and then fall back out after we beat them.

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SilverHaven's picture

Mahalo, Bias.  I'm glad to read from someone who can see the future dynamics instead of just looking at the current status.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

I think so if we have 3 ranked opponent s we beat...and let's see how the lsu Georgia game goes..how do they look? Their defense us not top caliber that's for sure.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

OSU - Ohio State finishes out with #8, #13, and #10 or #12.

LSU finished with unranked, unranked, #4.

I think if Ohio State wins convincingly, they’ll be #1 and rightfully so.

2x account suspension survivor 

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

They don’t project until the end of the year.  They are ranking based on what they’ve done, and to date, that was mostly with Tua.  When they compare teams for the final 4, that will be part of the discussion. They said it was with Ohio State in 2014, but 59-0 made it a small part.  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

And a big ten title
..bama is out of the title game

They are out unless everyone loses

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Buckeye-Bliggidy's picture

I don't think they have been consistent at all. Their reasoning for having LSU at #1 for the 2nd and 3rd edition has been absolutely contradictory - all the while conveniently forgetting about their terrible defense. They speak about Ohio State's position (#2) qualifying it because of their completeness - yet don't apply that to LSU. If LSU was weighed at ALL on how complete they are -  they'd be #3 at best. Heck - their offense has fewer points than OSU.

Also - they preach about resume (their reason for moving LSU to #1 last week) but as soon as that resume falls off (see LSU's ranked wins...) they switched the criteria to be all about their amazing offense.

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Buckeyeman95's picture

LSU sucks highly overrated and we will find out at the end of this season two best teams are Ohio state and Clemson and it’s not even close my personal opinion I think Clemson should be #1 till someone beats them they’ve played the same schedule every year and proved to be dominant until someone knocks them off they deserve #1 and they’re playing really good right now I think we can beat them but we would have to play are best game they have some men at there WR position and CBS and there defense has improved my top 4 is #1 Clemson #2 Ohio state #3 LSU #4 georgia 

Caleb nause

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Bocabuck's picture

3 Big Ten Teams in the top 10

3 SEC Teams in the top 10

2 Pac12 teams in the top 10

Yes...someone doesn't care for the Big12

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LMS1971's picture

If a one loss Ore/Utah beats a one loss Ore/Utah in the Pac12 Championship Game, that team will make the CFPlayoffs.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

That depends greatly on what happens elsewhere. If UGA beats LSU, I'd be shocked if both dont get In.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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BeatMeechigun's picture

If that's the case then CCG don't matter.

Only twice has a team that wasn't a CCG winner or an undefeated ND gotten in (18 of 20 teams were either undefeated or 1-loss conference champions). 

2016 OSU - there were no other 1-loss P5 teams who won their CCG to put in.  The Bucks, despite not being a CCG champion, were in because all other contenders had 2 losses.

2017 Bama - again, there were no other 1-loss P5 teams that won their CCG.

The ONLY P5 team to go undefeated or finish as a 1-loss CCG winner was last year's Ohio State team.  All teams that made the playoff met that criteria as well, the only other 1-loss team being OU who lost to Texas, then defeated them.

We can get worked up about rankings with Stanford and Iowa ahead of us in 2015 or UGA ahead of us last year, but the CFP field path has been remarkably clear: 1) Run the table as a P5 team.  2) If you suffer 1-loss, win your conference and hope that there are only 3 other programs meeting that criteria of 1) or 2). 3) If you suffer a loss and don't win your CCG, you are likely out, but pray for a scenario where all other contenders have 2 losses.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

David Pollack.got some heavy SEC juice flowing this TV episode.

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SpielzWheelz's picture

This needs updated after the show after that last block on air.... ALOTTA love for THE on that set... which is totally different from yrs past.

SpielzWheelz

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Mantis's picture

Once again, the talking heads on ESPN during the show were just talking about how we basically have to win out to get in and other 1 loss teams would be ahead of us if we slip up just once.  They even admitted that the SEC championship game could very well not matter at all since both teams would get in regardless.  It's really irritating that we are the only team of the major powerhouses that has to go undefeated every year in order to get into the playoff.  

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johnblairgobucks's picture

4 men wearing makeup on TV sure can make for some frustration. 8 team playoff with 3 at large and 5 conference winners is the only way to go. I hate having a geographic portion of the country not having a chance to win the playoff, anyway.

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shiloh's picture

There will be yrs when a 9-4 team wins their conference championship iow that conference sucks.

If they go to 8 get rid of conference championship games and have a home game for the top 4 playing bottom 4 instead.

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Obviously hypothetical, but what do you find more appealing? Say the playoff field was set today.
8 team playoff: Penn State vs LSU, Ohio State vs Oklahoma, Clemson vs Oregon/Utah, Alabama vs Georgia
Or
4 team playoff LSU vs Georgia, Ohio State vs Clemson....and Oregon/Utah vs Minnesota/Penn State Rose Bowl, Alabama vs Oklahoma Sugar Bowl and 5 weeks of Playoff Committe Television show
???

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shiloh's picture

Well again hypothetically there will be some yrs when two teams are head and shoulders above everyone else. This is why I'm slightly opposed to expansion. This yr is kinda unique re: tv attractions ie Fields vs JB and Fields vs Fromm as the transfer portal of the future could be a qb exchange merry-go-round amongst the blue bloods. Also, Hurts vs Tua which could've happened.

Indeed, some yrs the BCS didn't/doesn't look so bad. Digressing ...

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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avail31678's picture

Agreed 1000 percent.  ESPN Has money/TV ties with the SEC.  ESPN is the first to see and gets to broadcast AND produce all the initial talking points about the rankings. It allllways seems to be about how this or that SEC team will or can get in.  

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Braxton'sSpinMove's picture

Joey Galloway is really starting to grind my gears! Every chance he gets he puts any team in the SEC or Clemson over Ohio State even though Ohio State has clearly been the most dominant and complete team! I get it... as an am amateur he has to be objective but to me he’s being extremely overly objective! It’s so annoying  

The mark of excellence, the test of greatness, is consistency

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IfNotBucksSparty's picture

I think something happened to him while he was here because hes all up in dem tiger asses

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buckeye1964's picture

i think galloway has had a falling out with people at osu.  he really turned into "mark may" like persona  4 or so years ago.

danny

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Joey G. has made a point all year of saying that the defending nat'l champs (Clemson) should be assumed to still be #1 until they lose a game.  I think he has a valid point in that they are undefeated this year, even though teams have been gunning for them. 

Face it, they have won like 22 games in a row, right? 

I think they're a scary team but not necessarily #1 ..... but someone has to BEAT THEM to end the debate. 

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I don't care as long as we are in. However, for argument sake, how the hell do you have 4 loss teams ranked in the top 25??? I swear, Kirk Ferentz has a deal with the award devils. He is somehow a magnet for praise even if his teams lose.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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Dgeneral's picture

Nice to have disgusting Rutgers and Maryland which dropped OSU's  strength of schedule to 56.

Has there ever been a dumber move to add to schools that offer nothing to the biggest revenue producing sport.

Dgeneral

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BigDrill's picture

“But the NY TV market...” - Big Daddy Jim Delaney.

What he fails to realize is that NY sports doesn’t follow Rutgers as much as they follow Notre Dame. 

SMH. 

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keith7456's picture

The top four now will be the top four at the end.

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Dgeneral's picture

Georgia is not beating LSU.

Dgeneral

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shiloh's picture

Ole Miss had 402 yds rushing and 614 total yds vs LSU. Also, Georgia has the 6th ranked defense = 267.2 yds per game.

Just sayin' ...

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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Sunny Buck's picture

Agree Shiloh. The UGA defense will get to Burrow and the UGA offense will over power LSU. I believe this is Georgia's year to win the SEC.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I think LSU drops one of Texas A&M or Georgia 

2x account suspension survivor 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Agreed, Realist.  My money is on A&M sneaking up on LSU, who's looking ahead to the SEC CCG.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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DaiTheFlu's picture

I'll tell you right now: Ohio State does not have to win out to get in. They just have to NOT lose against Penn State and, slightly less so for the B1G championship game. If we lose to Michigan but win both other games, we are still in. And Michigan and and MgoBloggers know this and absolutely hate it. Itd be a hell of a lot better to just beat them, though...

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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LMS1971's picture

I wish I could believe that.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

It only needs to not be a Purdue 2018 or Iowa 2017 style shit-hammering. I would bet money on it, but you are right in that we never truly know what the committee will do. This year's version seems a lot more reasonable than prior years.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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SpaceCoast's picture

Let's not test your theory.  My belief is that we can win the next three games handily with our without Chase, but his return will be the juice to really fire up the team and carry us through.  5-0.

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CowCat's picture

As far as OSU goes, nothing has changed really. But it does put the focus squarely on this week. If PSU somehow wins, they'll win the east and likely the B1G championship. Being a conference champion with 2 additional wins over top 10 teams would catapult them above Utah, Oregon and Alabama.

So just beat PSU. Soon.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Yeah, I don't want to think those thoughts, but if you're PSU, any kind of win AT OSU immediately moves you to top 4 next week.  But sorry nits, it ain't happening.

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Bocabuck's picture

F*ck Galloway? C'mon guy's it's 11-19-19 and he's moved us up to #3...we've been #4 all through the Gameday finals show?

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Hal9000's picture

Random thought. Do we need to at least START planning for Joe Burrow's knowledge of our playbook and sideline signal system? Look I'm not trying to get ahead of ourselves. Just askin?

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Bnglbck's picture

Coach Day HAS planned for everything
Joe Burrow would NEVER betray OSU

Victory loves preparation

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

I don't care what Joe remembers. This current team is entirely different in a much better way than that team. Entirely different and vastly improved. Joe was there all of last season too. It's not like he left yesterday. Joe's old memories are just sentimental. No information that will help them at all. No worries.

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ohiopanda's picture

If LSU’s defense knew every play we’re running, I’m still not sure their defense would be very good

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IfNotBucksSparty's picture

Herbie had the best line when they started hypotheticals, "it would essentially be Ohio State which has looked to be the most complete team, vs LSU's offense"

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Hal9000's picture

Agreed. They 'll score points but can their D do more than ours?

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Just win, baby. It starts with PSU.

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Dillon G's picture

I guess I see it this way. Ohio State then Clemson. LSU’s defense is like a wet paper bag. And Georgia’s offense looks like Bollman is the architect.

#walkaway

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

You jest, but UGA does remind me of Tressel era OSU, which is not a bad thing for them. I've been hating on UGA the last 2 years but I'm beginning to come around to them. I'm in the growing group that thinks they knock off LSU in the SEC CG.

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SpaceCoast's picture

I hope it stays this way, I want us to roach-stomp Clemson first.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

We might beat Clemson. We might not. I like our team a little better in that game, but nobody is going to “roach-stomp” Clemson.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

PSU’s one loss was to one-loss Minnesota, still currently ranked 10 by the committee. Their best win was over UM, currently ranked 13. Oregon’s one loss was to three-loss Auburn, currently ranked 15, and their best win was over currently unranked Washington. Utah’s one loss was against four-loss USC, currently ranked. 23, and their best win is over currently unranked ASU. So, why exactly are both those teams ranked above PSU? 

This matters because I think this season will provide us the weakes 4 seed since MSU. Placing the PAC teams 6 and 7 all but guarantees this. Placing PSU behind them means an OSU win in that game knocks PSU out of the top 10 meaning that at the end of the year OSU will have no wins against top 10 teams. This will likely affect our seeding, almost certainly putting us in a position to have to beat LSU and Clemson to win the CFP.  

I know the tough thing to say is it doesn’t matter, to be the best you gotta best the best, etc. Maybe, but I’d rather have the top seed, this year particularly.

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Jarhead1944's picture

No PAC-12 team should be in the top 15, much less 6 and 7.

Leatherneck1980

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

If Utah and oregon stay with 1 loss the winner will jump Bama...
I would think...big 12 is too weak...

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Akron Buck's picture

I agree, 1 loss pac 12 winner will be #4 unless georgia beats LSU

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Jarhead1944's picture

Playing a Pac-12 team in the first round is essentially a bye week with a scrimmage.

Leatherneck1980

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BigDrill's picture

Personally I think a one loss Appalachian State beats a 4 loss USC team on a neutral field, or in Ann Arbor.

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JM's picture

Anyone else catch Rece's comment about Auburn having "three good losses"? What does that even mean?

Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye

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Buckeye6266's picture

To the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic"

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the winning of the Bucks;
They have trampled all the other teams, 'cause, boy, we make 'em suck.
We have loosed the lightning called Chase Young, so he will run amok--
Our team keeps marching on.

We have witnessed accurate passing from our super quarterback,
And we love our speedy Dobbins who's a rushing maniac.
From our offense to our defense, there is nothing we do lack.  
Our team keeps marching on.

The wins, they just keep piling up 'cause we are truly great.
And we know that this weekend--we will really crush Penn State,
Since being undefeated is going to be our fate,
Our team keeps marching on.

And we won't stop till our wins reach the number of fifteen
'Cause this is the best Buckeye team that I have ever seen.
And then next week, we'll be munching on some Hairball Wolverine.
Our team keeps marching on.

Be it Georgia or wimpy Clemson or even LSU,
It doesn't matter who we play 'cause they'll be losers, too!
And we will have the Natty trophy when this season's through.
Our team keeps marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! 
We are gonna sock it to ya!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Our team keeps marching on!

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BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

Holy cow the possibility for chaos is still insane. As they discussed, if LSU loses to UGa and/or OSU loses to Minnesota then you'd have something like 8 teams for 2 spots. I really hope Day and the team don't slip up.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

LSU is trending towards a loss, be it TXAM or UGA.  Heavy is the head that wears the crown, and they are showing the warning signs. I'm fine with the committee over-ranking them at #1 still, as long as they rectify prior to championship game weekend.

We'll see if there is any PAC-12 chaos in the state of Arizona this weekend. If not, Utah-Oregon is set in stone.  Still think those teams at 6-7 have been the biggest mistake in the rankings since day one. They should be in the 8-10 range, based on resume.

Oklahoma is not looking like a world beater, they still have OK St and Big 12 CG. I could see them losing either.

Then you have good old Alabama lying in the weeds, wounded.  No idea what the committee will do with them. They don't deserve it at all with that schedule. Now they don't have Tua, so I just can't see how the committee could justify the eye test either.  But it's weird, something about Alabama being in this counted out role, they might be scary sneaking in the playoffs at #4. Scarier than Ore/Utah winner anyway.

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kaiser's picture

Oregon trailed Auburn for 9 seconds.  They were the last nine seconds, so they lost.  But Oregon will be in the CFP if they win out.  

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BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

I see your point, but I remember a defending national champ team that went undefeated until the clock struck 0:00 in one game yet didn't make the playoffs.

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kaiser's picture

Putting two SEC teams in the CFP would cost the SEC about $21 million because a big ten team would go to the Orange Bowl instead of an SEC team.  Jim Delany an the big ten athletic directors are the only ones who want that result.  

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Bucks19's picture

Why do you guys give a fuck about anyone other than us. 
 

Same story different week. 
Bitch moan - rinse repeat 

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SilverHaven's picture

Here's my considered opinion (hot take) on the final outcome.

If it does not happen, I will acknowledge that it was merely conjecture anyway.

If it does occur, then I will remind everyone next January that I told you so.

So... Ohio State will be #1 after defeating Michigan, but will be back at #2 after an unsurprising win in the Big Ten championship rematch against Wisconsin.

LSU will end up back at #1 after they defeat #4 Georgia for the SEC title. 

Clemson will remain mired at #3. They will continue to blow out opponents, but those opponents are ACC teams outside the Top 25. 

Oregon will bypass Georgia and Alabama for #4 after defeating a highly ranked Utah in the Pac 12 championship.

Before the playoffs, the 3rd-string QB at Ohio State wins the Heisman trophy.

After a month of preparation, a motivated #2 Ohio State team dismantles #3 Clemson, avenging prior losses dating back to Woody Hayes.

Then #2 Ohio State beats #1 LSU and their Heisman QB for the championship, just like they did against Oregon and Mariota.  Sorry Jeaux.  We love you, but the Buckeyes are the real deal and reign supreme an undisputed #1.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Wargor's picture

I like your thinking and logic.  Here are my thoughts.

I'm not sure LSU beats Georgia.  If they lose a close one, I'm afraid they put LSU into the #4 spot.  The committee is too high on LSU right now and should have moved them to #2 due to that defensive performance.  You have only to look at last week and their game against Auburn to see why OSU and Clemson fans are salivating over the idea of playing LSU, and Georgia fans have reasons to be optimistic.  Any team in that boat shouldn't be #1.  While it would be a travesty to put in two SEC teams in those circumstances, it might work out pretty well.  We beat LSU and Clemson beats Georgia in the first round, with an OSU Clemson final.  

I agree with you though that they will move LSU back up to #1 if they beat Georgia.  If that happens, whoever wins between #2 OSU and #3 Clemson takes the championship fairly easily.  

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gobucks5413's picture

Earlier this year I thought it didnt matter what we were seeded. I want that 1 spot. I don't want to play Clemson. They're the only team that truly has the horses we do. Save that for the natty and hope LSU beats them in the 2/3 game

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

My updated playoff projections:

Ohio State vs. LSU

Clemson vs Georgia 

2x account suspension survivor 

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SilverHaven's picture

And so... you're saying Georgia beats LSU in the SEC title game?

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Yes. If favorites win out though, I strongly believe Oregon will be #4.

2x account suspension survivor 

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BucksAndBourbon86's picture

I’m not usually one to bang the SEC bias drum, but.....it’s funny how the SEC has the top rated undefeated team, the top rated one loss team, two loss team, and 3 loss team. Makes ya think

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SilverHaven's picture

Wow, that's impressive evidence.  But nah, there's no bias.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Mastro16's picture

That has been consistent throughout the season, too. 

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Chicago Buckeye's picture

In my opinion OSU needs to be #1 in the end.  Clemson is peaking and dangerous and I would not want to face them.  I would much rather face Georgia or Oregon in the first round then the winner of LSU and Clemson.  

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SilverHaven's picture

"In my opinion OSU needs to be #1 in the end."

And in my opinion OSU in deed will "be #1 in the end."  They simply win every game.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Buckeyeman95's picture

I really think Clemson should be #1 and Ohio state #2 I’d rather it be that way I don’t want to play an angry Clemson team with something to prove because they’re being disrespected Clemson’s a very very very good team I hate there guts and dabo can eat a bag of cocks but I’m not in denial it’s going to take our best performance to beat them they have some dogs at the wr and Conor back position that’s peaking and Travis etienne is a really good back but I hope we beat them go bucks!!

Caleb nause

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Buckeye-Bliggidy's picture

Everything that is going on in the selection process is absolutely predictable. The most interesting thing will be how SEC fans justify things if OSU gets to the CFP and beats 2 SEC teams. How sweet it will be to sit back and read all the BS. 

Here's an example:

Let's say Ohio State blasts LSU in the playoff (be it semi-final or final) - there will be a horde of LSU fans who suddenly blame their defense - saying it had holes all year. When currently - it's just a great defense that got caught off guard a few times. (and remember to overrate the team that ate their defense alive)

When people switch the criteria to make the results fit into their narrative - you know they are full of s***. Sounds strangely familiar to what the selection committee is doing with LSU.

In the end - if OSU wins it all, it's going to be glorious to watch the grasping at straws, blame-shifting, and overall lack of crow eating.

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jrgdds's picture

I think OSU is the best team in the country, but I hope they keep them ranked #2 or #3 to keep a big chip on their shoulder.

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