I don't, no.
But I'm conservative like that, and respect the non-rivalry.
Expecting a win, comfortable down the stretch, but not a blowout.
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I share your sentiments. It will be closer than the experts think. That is just how I feel.
That time of year, two back-to-back bangers, the weather, all that's riding on this...
I'm at the point now, with where I've been my adult life/who I've mixed it up with, where I probably dislike Penn State more than M...igan (which is weird enough to admit having survived the 90's).
So, no mistake, I'd love nothing more than to see Ohio State mudstomp Franklin and crew, but I've seen enough of these games get weird over the years.
Again, the Buckeyes are much better across the board, but just feel they'll be tested (and maybe it's time they are).
I get it , especially with recent games where they made it close when it should not have but weaknesses were exploited and I honestly see no weakness on either side of the ball with this team. Their pass defense is suspect and they struggle running the ball. To make matters worse for them is their depth is no match for ours. I usually am conservative about predictions but not this time. OSU 21+.
Oh I won't be disappointed if Ohio State lays the wood on them, not at all.
These late November games can get weird, especially with so much on the line.
I agree with you (and especially re the weather as a possible factor). And it does not look like ideal conditions on Saturday. The weather could be a factor at Ann Arbor as well.
It’s early in the week, but weather looks to be a factor at this point.
Very well put. I also believe this is going to be a good game, for most cases it has historically been. I also believe the Bucks will win, by 35, probably not, HOWEVER, I'll take it! GO BUCKS
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Just like to see a solid Buckeye win. If we play to our ability we win.
Agreed. Expectations low just in case and be happy with a blowout.
I dont as well. Look at the past few meetings. I dont except it to be that close but dont expect a blow out either.
I think the whole deciding factor in this game is if we let Penn State's QB run on broken plays on us. Seems that this Penn State team goes as his rushing game goes, because he is a very average passer and they do not have a legit running back. If we get them into 3rd down we need to get off the field.
I love your optimism. I hope we blow them out. I expect this will be a one score game going into the 4th quarter. I hope I am wrong and you are right though.
It will be well over before the 4th, Penn St. has got NO chanch.
You either haven't been watching the Buckeyes, or you haven't been watching Penn State. There's absolutely no reason to think this will be close.
Performance stats and recruiting rankings say the Bucks roll by something like 42-21. Yet we forget how close OSU is to coming in to this game with three straight loses to the Nittany Lions. The 2019 contest will be a war.
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We shall see who is more correct. Really, all that matters is the Buckeyes get 1 more point than psu.
If Penn State plays their A game and Ohio State comes out with their C game it'll be a battle.
If Ohio State comes out ready to go it won't be close. The talent level just isn't all that close.
I'm thinking 52-17.
Same here. I think it's gonna look a lot like that night game a few years back when they had Hackenburg. A massacre.
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This is how I feel. Any team can walk into a game and not show up but if this team plays how they have been all year it shouldn't even be close.
If that Hamler kid is healthy I'm not sure it will be a blow-out. I'm confident of a victory, but I'm not it'll be by 35, or even 25. I can easily see the three scores the line is currently set at though.
Think the line is about right...17 pts seem right to me. Buckeyes get up by that amount they will be more than happy to pound away...no need for style points. Tressel ball with a lead will do.
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Disagree. Step on their throat.
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17 points has not been a safe lead in this game
There's no need for them but why not?? It's Penn State, it needs to be painful.
Ryan Day is on record as saying he recognizes that the committee values style points. I don't see him taking his foot off the gas until it's way out of reach.
Agree. A beat-down of a Top 10 team will absolutely impress.
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It's going to be a fight. We haven't destroyed them since 2013. I dont see that changing.
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You mean 2015 right?
Was 2015 a complete rout? We were only up 21-10 going into the 4th quarter IIRC.
Sure felt like it to me. It was also 21-3 at half and the only way they were moving the ball was with Saquon. Also a 28 point game at the end.
This is the best team Ohio St. has had in a very long time.
Not our rival, and not very good, but for some reason closer than I and most others would like.
Hoping for a blow out with The Rival on deck.
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They are very good. Geez.
They are not. I hate to keep using this, but they haven't played anyone. when they did play someone with a pulse they either lost or just got by. They are not on the same level as us this season.
There are few, if any teams on our level. That doesn't mean they're not very good. Again, Geez.
52-17. So, yeah, 35 points.
I would be surprised by that type of a blowout, LCT. Yes, I know......we've been saying that "So and so is going to play us tough". Never thought we'd blow out MSU or WI. But even Urban Meyer has stated repeatedly that Penn State's recruiting is now at an elite level. They do not have the depth we have - clearly. But their skill pos players are really good and they have some guys in their front 7 on D that will play on Sundays. I would see a blowout like you predict in dry, indoor conditions. Not what we'll see on Saturday.
So.....have fun trolling me if your prediction holds true! I see more of a 31-17 win in a physical game.
I think our 24 point win streak continues...barely.
I think its going to play out similar to Wisconsin. Closely contested first half, we probably go to half time up 7 or 10 points. We end up with a 17 to 24 point win. Thinking 38-17.
By the way, I'd think differently if this one was at their place.
I'm more concerned with travelling to Ann Arbor next weekend. My gut tells me that we are going to handle both games with ease but I can't shake how horrible the feeling would be to lose to Michigan to start the Ryan Day era, with the most dominant Ohio State team of the decade.
Harbaugh dancing around in diapers chugging whole milk on the sideline as the clock runs out to end our perfect season. Its a horrifying nightmare.
I too am VERY worried about the 'Skunk Weasels" up North also -- not because I think they are better/more talented than the Bucks -- but they are a 'dangerous team' right now because they 'have nothing to lose'!! -- they know with 2 losses they are out of B10 CG & CFBP picture and they are playing like it, looking very aggressive, carefree/loose and playing very well right now....
I am VERY concerned about their WR Collins, who is likely to be targeted LOTS because he has shown OSU DB's cannot defend him on the '50/50 balls' -- he is a beast that OSU had no answer for in last years game (their only bright spot) and they will look to exploit that mis-match early and often with him...Peoples-Jones is an elite athlete with size also that could hurt us numerous ways...
I also don't believe outside of Olave that OSU has any speedy WR weapons that really scare scUM this year like Campbell or Dixon last year...and I'm sure DC Brown will 'mix-up' his coverages much more this year after being abused with the man-to-man last year...
How many times have we seen a super-talented OSU team with 'everything to lose' go up to AA and be beaten by less talented scUM team 'with nothing to lose'?? -- DANGEROUS GAME NEXT WEEK!!
How many times have we seen a super-talented OSU team with 'everything to lose' go up to AA and be beaten by scUM team 'with nothing to lose' -- DANGEROUS GAME NEXT WEEK!!
Uh...not many in the last decade. I'm not saying it can't happen...it most certainly can but over the last 15 years Ohio State has played many *ichigan teams with nothing to lose and have handled their business.
Right. We aren't living in the 90s anymore. It's been 20+ years since Ohio State came up short against TTUN when they shouldn't. Can it happen.. Sure, but it's not like it's common anymore.
Those scUM teams you are citing were pretty 'rotten' teams -- this years scUM team is nothing of the sort -- actually, last year's Game was reflective of a scUM team carrying the burden of expectation of being the higher ranked team looking at likely CFBP spot prior to THE Game -- and an OSU team playing loose bc knew they were likely out of it bc of the horrible Purdue loss --- don't fool yourselves guys -- it's gonna be a tough game next week, real tough...the 'script is flipped' from last years game....
Those scUM teams you are citing were pretty 'rotten' teams -- this years scUM team is nothing of the sort
At this point you are trying to talk yourself into being scared. Nothing has changed with TTUN. They still have the same leadership which means shitty game planning. TTUN has been awful this year. The media is trying to build up their success over the past few weeks but in reality they are just playing bad teams and leave their starters in for the whole game against teams like maryland. To say that this years version of TTUN is any better than previous years is laughable.
In the 21st century-getting beat by scUM due to unpreparedness-haven't seen it at all...................this years squad was dialed in and focused for UC and Maryland-I really, really doubt it will be an issue against PSU and scUM-and that is giving all the credit in the world to this year's team and staff.
Both games are dangerous but as weird as it sounds, if Ohio State takes care of Penn State, I'm not sure the game against TTUN matters for anything beyond rivalry bragging rights (which are hugely important). Given the landscape of the playoff race, a 1 loss BIG champion Ohio State with wins against PSU, Wisconsin (maybe 2 wins against Wisc) and Cincy are going to be in the playoff. Especially with how dominate they have looked for 10 consecutive weeks.
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I'm ALWAYS concerned with playing TTUN. We should stomp them, but...too many scars from the Cooper years I guess.
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It is a nightmare to any cooper-era fan, but we could still go to the playoff in that scenario. And Michigan would still be playing Florida in the "insert random bowl game here" bowl.
It would still be insufferable and would constitute a failed season, national title or not.
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If that scenario actually happens I would really like to hear you say that it was a failed season as Ryan Day is holding a golden trophy as the confetti falls.
It would be a failed season. It was annoying enough when VT had those stupid "we beat the national champions" t-shirts. You really want to give TTUN a win over us in a National Championship year? Absolutely not, that would be the worst time to lose that game ever. Their fans are insufferable when they lose every year, can you even imagine? Nope, no way.
Im not saying I would chose that. I agree that would be awful but at the same time the national title is always the ultimate goal. It certainly would not be a failed season. Less than ideal season, sure.
I expect them to blow out Penn State but my memories of inexplicable sports losses coupled with the fact that my wife and I are traveling from AZ to OH to watch this in person (my first game in the Shote since 2005) makes me worried about some voodoo. However, this team has the makings of the most complete Buckeye team I've watched in the 20 years I've truly paid attention to Ohio State football while trying to grow up in Cleveland with awful pro sports...
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Penn State is overrated. They're going to get thrashed.
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I don't understand how anyone could be nervous about this game. PSU is coming into the Shoe on Saturday basically as a less-talented version of their 2015 team - a team that left with a 4 TD beatdown.
Sure since 2016 PSU has beaten us once and played us to a point twice, but the players who made that possible have all left, and haven't been replaced. Sean Clifford is just ever so slightly better than Hackenburg, statistically. KJ Hamler is really good, but so was Saquon in '15 when he put up 200 yards rushing on us and they still left with a 4 TD deficit. In 2018, they lost what was essentially all of their D-line talent, and then lost what was left of it in Shareef Miller this year.
Combine that with the fact that this is may be the best OSU team of all time, in the Shoe, and I think it's pretty clear why we open as 19 point favorites. These dudes worrying about Penn State because of the last three years result is not a valid reason, if you apply a even a tiny bit of critical thinking. Looking for the end result to be even worse for Penn State than 2015.
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I don't understand how anyone could be nervous about this game.
Seriously? How many times has Ohio State gone into a game clearly the favorite only to crap the bed?
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They have one element that has me somewhat worried, the ability for their QB to escape and gash defenses with yards using his legs.
McSorely showed to be a thorn in the Buckeyes side with that the last couple years, just hoping the defense is ready for it from the first snap.
Otherwise, their play makers, and skill guys don't worry me all that much.
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I don't think we get gashed. We will get home on the QB a lot this week, and not just with CY. I think our interior DL are better than many give them credit for. Also, the fact that we won't be playing 100% man coverage and running with our backs to the action will help with limiting big plays. He may get a couple of chunk plays, but not many.
Doesn't take much. Clifford doesn't appear to be the player McSorely is in totality, but the defense isn't keying on him and keeping him in the pocket and taking care of business on the back end, it could hurt.
I'm looking forward to the Return of the Strip Sack when Chase comes back.
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I expect TOSU to win the game -- and hopefully by a margin of 14-17 points -- ie. not too stressful of a game -- but to predict a 35+ point blowout is being totally ignorant of the history of this rivalry, especially in recent years when if not for some lousy coaching by James Franklin -- PSU should have beaten our Buckeyes numerous times over the last handful of years...
but to predict a 35+ point blowout is being totally ignorant of the history of this rivalry
1. Rivalry? Come on. 3 years of close games does not make a rivalry.
2. In the last decade alone, OSU has beaten PSU by 17, 24, 49, and 28. None of those teams were as talented as this years OSU team. Is 35 unlikely? Maybe. But let's not pretend PSU has some sort of history of ALWAYS playing OSU tight in the shoe. Let's look at the last few times PSU has come to Columbus, shall we?
2017: 39-38 W
2015: 38-10 W
2013: 63-14 W
2011: 20-14 L (worst OSU team in 50 years)
2010: 38-14 W
2008: 13-6 L
2006: 28-6 W
2004: 21-10 W
6-2 with an average score of 31-15. So if we AVERAGE beating them by 16 points at home over the last 15 years, it's not all that unreasonable to assume the best statistical team in Ohio State history might do a little better than the average. Could it be close? Sure. But it's equally as likely to be a beat down.
One more note: you can't blame 2018 on Franklin's coaching while not blaming 2016 on Urban's coaching.
2011-Worst Buckeye team in 50 years-you obviously weren't alive for the first couple years of the Cooper era.
You can maybe argue his first season at 4-6-1, but Cooper never had another season within even 2 games of .500 (7-4-1 was his next worst). So worst in 30 years and 2nd worst in 50+ years at the very least. Point still stands though
What a relief to find out that 1999 season was just a bad dream, sure seemed real at the time.
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This game has been close the last few years, i got the Bucks by 31
This game will make Franklin do some soul searching
You mean like the kind that makes one hop on a flight from Pennsylvania to sunny Southern California?
And he will fail to find his.
How can you find something you never had????
I am concerned about the weather, it will be worse than the Wisconsin game. This will be the real first test for Justin Fields in snow and cold.
The next two weeks will show what this team is really made of.
Damn it... I'm seeing rain in the forecast again. I'd rather it snow than rain.
Rain and snow showers in the morning changing to mainly rain showers in the afternoon. High around 40F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
Wasn’t the OSU-Wisconsin game weather supposed to be “the great equalizer” between the two teams?
Penn State has to play in the rain too, guys.
This weather stuff is terribly overrated at this point. Yeah, completely abysmal weather in 15 had a part in the msu loss but lets stop acting like poor coaching decisions wasn't the primary reason.
Weather only becomes a leveling factor when one team is built with athleticism and speed while the other team is more power and discipline. That was the exact situation with msu in 15. PSU is built very similar to osu. If the weather is gonna help the bucks, it’ll help psu too. If the weather is gonna hurt the bucks, it’ll hurt psu too.
9 carries by Zeke in that game!!!!!
As I recall they weren't particularly successful plays. I suspect MSU was simply defending against the run given the poor weather conditions. The problem then being that QB runs weren't working either. So yes I agree Zeke should have had more carries. It was absurdly frustrating.
Just as I predicted with the Wisconsin game, the elements will hurt penn state more than us. They are calling for spotty showers which is way better than against wisconsin when it was a monsoon basically the whole game. Fields and the receivers have proven they can play in that weather already this year. Penn State hasn't. Also penn states passing game revolves around launching arm punts and hoping their receivers come down with it or draw a pass interference. The rain will make those plays harder for them and since we dont have Schiano running press man every single play the likelyhood of getting PI calls on us are slim. Also, remember this is Ohio. The weather forecast changes everyday.
I'm at 31 - 17, and much closer than that for most of the game. I do predict that our defense scores in this game.. been watching for it (and no penalty on the play). PSU gets up to play us every year, they will bring their best.
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I hope you're wrong. We play a better team away next week and it wouldn't bode well if this one is close.
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I'll be surprised if it's a total blowout. Everything is on the line for both teams. I expect PSU to have a chip on their shoulder, especially considering no one is picking them and the line is ridiculous.
I think Chase is going to play with a fury and terrorize Sean Clifford for the majority of the game so I think at the very least we'll win by two scores.
I agree, he will be well-rested, mad, playing with a lot of intensity and getting after PSU.
Clifford is a sneaky good scrambler/runner so we will need gap discipline or he's going to gouge us with his understated scrambling ability.
I'm not expecting 59-6 or something like that. I think we win comfortably-the point spread is about right, imo. If they try to feed that huge TE Freimuth continually, Pete Werner and Malik Harrison will put paid to that notion.
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I feel pretty good about us winning by 3 scores or more so long as the weather isn't rainy/snowy and as long as Fields has a decent game.
Even though I think PSU is much better than scUM I am a lot more concerned with scUM. Playing scUM in Ann Arbor after the beat downs we have been giving them is making me nervous. I have to think they have a lot of scheme changes for that game that will be surprises. Jimmy and Don Brown have to be very embarrassed by last year's game so I think they will show us a lot of new looks on D and really try and open up their offense with 4 and 5 receiver sets, rub-routes, rolling-out Shea to buy him time, etc..
I drove to West Lafayette last year to take my son to his first Buckeyes game thinking he would get to experience a sure victory. I've tempered my expectations since. I always will take the surprise of a blowout victory! Go Bucks!
With all the accolades the team has received I hope we stay hungry and don't get overconfident. PSU will bring their best game so I expect it to be closer due to their defense and a running quarterback, with us winning by 1-2 scores.
I don't think this game will be down to the wire like the last 2 years. Penn State's resume looks awful compared to tOSU's. Penn State's 3 best wins are against Iowa, TTUN, and Indiana with a combined score of 79-60. tOSU's 3 bets wins are against Wiscy, Cincinnati, and Indiana with a combined score of 131-17. If we look at common opponents Indiana, Maryland, and Sparty. Penn State's combined score is 121-34 while Ohio State's is 158-34.
I think tOSU covers the spread. 45-17
I think it is a comfortable 3 score win. On the fringes of blowout territory, which wouldn't surprise me either.
OSU's biggest advantage to attack them is through the air though, and if we get some crappy weather again, that may slightly limit some upside on offense. I could see it playing out as a grinder similar to Wisconsin if that is the case.
A downpour would definitely be worst case scenario for Ohio State. It saved Michigan State's awful secondary in 2015, but this team is playing much better than that one.
Coaching lost that game for OSU, not the rain. The coaches were too arrogant to give Zeke the ball and paid for it.
Michigan State's front seven was the strength of their team but had a weak secondary. Ohio State only had 47 yards passing in the game. There was only 1 down field pass attempt that I remember and JT Barrett missed a WIDE open Braxton Miller by over 5 yards. No other deep throw even attempted. Michigan State ranked 77th in passing yards allowed at 233 a game. Of course giving Ezekiel Elliot the ball could of helped, but it seemed to me that MSU was controlling both Los at the end of game.
This is JT we're talking about. He couldn't throw accurate deep balls even in good weather. If OSU involves Zeke in the gameplan more than they did they win that game plain and simple.
If only we had a guy like Cardale Jones on the team. The threat of the pass could of helped open up the running game for Zeke instead of having the whole defense at the Los.
This will be the game that pushes Franklin to greener pastures in either Southern Cal or Tallahassee.
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50% chance of rain right now, another down-pour would really effect it.
Oddshark has the game at 52-22 lol
I have not read anything about a downpour. That would be bad, but there is nothing quite that extreme at the moment. It is also fluctuating with the chance of any precipitation. 40% according to weather.gov.
From the little I seen of Penn State, they have a weak secondary, stout front seven, average O-line, a few playmakers and a QB not as good as their previous one.
Against the best passing attacks the PSU faced, their secondary struggled to cover talented receivers downfield. So I think Justin Fields passing will be key on offense. When they have the ball, I think keeping Penn State in 3&long and forcing their QB arm punt to arm punt. I would feel a lot worse about this game if they still had Trace Mcsorley.
Since 2017, Psu has only lost one game by more than 5 points. That was a blowout loss to Michigan in 2017. I think we are clearly the better team, and i hope we spank them, but its most likely to be a relatively close game
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What I gathered from this is that they're due to lay an absolute egg...
It depends on what it means by demolish. It also depends on what demolish means. I think they should win by three scores. Could be more.
It also depends on how bad the weather is. I think OSU still wins and am not freaked out by some rain but it does change some things. I doubt the coaches are as conservative to start the Wisconsin game though and both teams will have to play in it.
OSU has more advantages than not, but if they do not execute and PSU plays a great game it may be close. It has been the last two years. Some of those were more wonky and last year the defense was not good but still. I think this year should be different than last year. Just given that the only team capable of stopping OSU's offense constantly is OSU. And if the defense can make them one dimensional than they are in trouble.
Expecting anything less than a two score win doesn’t make sense to me. Ohio State is going to blow this team out of the building lol. 55-14 sounds good to me
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PSU views this as their rivalry game, plus it will essentially decide who represents the East in the B1G championship, so they are going to come out swinging haymakers.
If OSU does not come out firing on all cylinders, they could see themselves trailing in the 1st half, and it could definitely be a close game going into the 4th.
Don't think it will be a blowout, but can see OSU pulling away in the 4th to win by double digits. Really hoping for a blowout though!
I doubt OSU blows them out in the first half, but definitely expect a solid win like the Wisconsin game by the end.
But upsets happen, and this PSU team is fully capable of pulling it off if OSU doesn't come out strong.
I'm going to always err on the side of giving your opponent respect and not predict outright victories. No matter how well we've performed, how great we look on paper, how many Chase Young's we have on board, never underestimate the hunger of your opponent. Penn State plays us well. I don't expect anything else this Saturday.
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Yes, I agree. It amazes me how quickly people forget that upsets happen and lack of respect for an opponent is asking for one.
Yeah if the TEAM does. Us talking about this changes nothing.
It seems that 98% of 11W has convinced themselves this team is completely unbeatable...
I'll never have that mindset. Any given Saturday a less talented team can win a football game.
If Penn State beat Ohio State Saturday it would be 1000x less shocking than when Purdue and Iowa blew Ohio State out.
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Yep. I don't think there's any denying this Ohio State team is better than the 2017 and 2018 teams, but man... when will people learn that no college team is ever unbeatable? Every single year you see teams lose games that they should never have lost. Buckeye fans should know that better than anyone.
Honestly, watching how the seasons have unfolded, I WOULD be more shocked by PSU beating us this year than Iowa and Purdue beating us. There were glaring fatal deficiencies in 2017 and 2018 that made those losses virtually inevitable, and certainly foreseeable in hindsight.
Of course, crazy things can happen, and we could end up losing this game, but no one could honestly say they saw it coming.
I don't disagree. Those losses pretty much were inevitable in those seasons, but only about 2-3% of 11W were acknowledging that. If you brought up the glaring deficiencies those teams had you were being a negative chicken little. If people were expecting those games to turn out the way they did then pretty much no one was saying it before the games. I was super worried before the Clemson and Purdue games for sure. The passing game was pretty bad in 2016 (throw out the numbers and actually watched what happened on the field that season against defenses with a pulse) and yet the Ohio State - Clemson score prediction threads had the Buckeyes winning 99% of the time. Hindsight is crystal clear in those situations, but the majority of people were absolutely ignoring the elephants in the rooms before those games and were not expecting that sort of result.
Bottom line is even those flawed 2017 and 2018 teams were seen as unbeatable by a majority of fans.
And that's the difference with this season...
Of course no team is unbeatable, even this one, but this season, there just aren't any elephants in the room to ignore.
If you continually throw enough shit against a wall, some of it is going to stick. The negative nancy types do it before every game not against a MAC type school or Rutgers. I don't think anyone was predicting that tOSU would be 100% unable to run the ball against Purdue last in any way, shape, or form, or that Prince would pick that game to zone out. Rondale Moore eating the LBs alive-absolutely.
Against Purdue specifically? No, of course not, but we knew that we were very vulnerable to big plays, both passing and running. We knew we struggled offensively in both the running and passing games at times. We knew that stupid unforced penalties were an issue. Put any two of those together in the same game, and we were going to lose, likely in spectacular fashion. It was an inevitability.
This year, not so much.
The past 3 years say otherwise. I’d be shocked if Buckeyes win by more than TD.
I say 28-22 sounds about right.
Hahahaha your joking right? I would say at worst it will be similar to the Wisconsin game, but im expecting it to be even worse, Wisconsin actually matches up better to us than PSU in my opinion especially when it was played in a monsoon and we still destroyed them. Penn St doesn't play ball control and can't run the ball so passing and getting killed by the predator seems like a good recipe for an ass beating.
So I assume you haven't watched any OSU games this year but you have the last 3 years?
My heart says of course this will be close—two teams that have battled the last several years.
My brain, however, when I look at these teams just doesn’t see a close game. Several games where Penn State has been held to less than 300 yards by teams less talented than us. Several games where they’ve given up more than 400-450 yards to teams less talented than us.
I just don’t think it’s gonna be close. I was on the Penn State boards on Sunday and they are not optimistic. At least, less optimistic than they typically are
I feel like OSU should stomp PSU every year, and yet it didn't happen the last three. I'm cautiously optimistic about this one.
But the people who might say, "Well PSU didn't look good against Minnesota and Indiana," have to consider that PSU was not going to get up for those games the same way they always will get up against OSU. That fanbase wants to beat no one more than they want to beat OSU, including Michigan. The players feel that. In the same way Alabama is the measuring stick in the SEC, or Clemson is the measuring stick in the ACC, OSU is the measuring stick in the B1G.
I think thye'll beat Penn State. I'm not predicting a blowout- the 4 of last 5 years have taught me to expect nothing but a Category 5 heart attack nail-biter- but they'll win.
I'm not going to lie, though: The Game this year scares the living hell out of me. I would not put it above Harbaugh (or Franklin, for that matter) to try to end our season by having one of his goons take a dirty shot at Fields. If he's out, we have no chance to beat anybody with a pulse- the talent drop-off from him to Chugunov and Hoak is just THAT steep. The Urban Meyer boogeyman is now gone for TTUN; that could have a mental effect on their team, which will be fueled with nearly 20 years of distilled frustration. The skeptical (some might say paranoid- I admittedly fit the bill) members of Buckeye Nation have been looking to find a "Purdue" or "Iowa" type game on this year's schedule; I have a feeling that it might come in Ann Arbor. I hope like hell that I'm wrong.
Your schtick is getting old
You get credit for consistency.
He predicted Northwestern to beat them, predicted Wisconsin to beat them, and is now talking himself into a loss at *ichigan.
To be fair, I didn’t pick NW to beat OSU. I said that it would be a close OSU win- which was also the case with Nebraska and MSU as well. I did pick the Buckeyes to lose to UC and Wisconsin, which, in hindsight, admittedly looks stupid.
You can pick them to lose every game as far as I am concerned--just as long as you are wrong every single time. ;)
Ohio State is going to put the beat down on Penn State. For as much as Penn St is 9-1, they could easily be 6-4. I have watched a number of their games and they looked like garbage against teams like Pitt and Indiana and they should have lost to Michigan and Iowa. Ohio State is gonna blow them out, 2nd teamers in for the 4th quarter....mark it down
I tend to have conservative feelings about games, scores and opponents, especially as we get deeper into a season. This year, at this point in the season, things just feel different. My gut feeling on this one is that the Sunday anti-OSU narrative will be that Penn State wasn't all that good of a team anyway.
I understand the last three games of been pretty close. But I think Ohio State wins by 14 or more
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Yeah, the past three years have been close, but this is not the same Buckeye team of the last three years. Not even close.
I don’t see it as a blowout. It’ll be the first time we’ve went toe to toe with similar athletes. Wisconsin is a good team but nowhere near our talent. I think Chase Young is the catalyst and he’ll change their offensive gameplan...which is often max protect and launch 50/50 passes. They won’t be able to do that as much.
My prediction is 31-13. They always seem to play our offensive line really tough. Running the ball will be really hard so it’ll be up to Fields and the pass protection to come through. I think they will and we’ll seal it early fourth quarter.
I think this is going to be a very close game. Buckeyes have not been battle tested, so just hoping this team is up for the challenge when the game is tight with 2 minutes to play.
I just find this notion of "We haven't been battle tested" and somehow ALL ten of our opponents so far have been less than good teams....just odd. True, some of them haven't been, but some have been good teams. I think we have been battle tested, and we have just played to the level as to make every one we have played just look bad.
I think Ohio State is by far the better team, but if the weather ends up being crappy it might not be that big of a blowout. Our biggest threat to them is Fields throwing the ball since penn state's passing defense is pretty average. It will be hard to throw the ball in awful weather. Hopefully we can get the run game going. With that being said Ohio State is the much better team so...
NWS showing chances of rain/snow in the 40% chance in the morning waning in the afternoon. Forecast models show everything fully cleared out by gametime. I wouldn’t worry too much, the models looked much worse for Wisconsin
PSU, I expect to hang. But the game after that is the one that bothers me. Last year it was a narrative we'd lose, and we hung the most points ever on them. This year the expectation is to decimate them, and that concerns me. Skill wise I believe Ohio State is above across the board, so if the team isn't checked out and comes in like they have for the last 2 games, I have 0 worries against either team. Day has gotten the guys up for every game until now, I expect to see it again. Also Chase comes back, poor bastard at QB is going to have an ugly day.
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I really don't know. I think we win a 34-17 kind of game, with it being close until halftime and us wearing them down late in the game. I could also see it being the usual Ohio State/Penn State nailbiter, as they've already got the loss and will undoubtedly go all out in this game with the B1G East on the line. The one thing I keep coming back to is Penn State at home vs. on the road - particularly against us. They usually don't play well in Columbus, with 2017 being an exception, likely due to their insane talent at QB, RB and WR.
I'm not terribly worried about the weather yet, although it could certainly hamper both offenses if it gets worse than what's currently predicted. Either way, I hope the crowd is crazy and tilts things even more in our favor. I'll be there and plan on being loud as hell!
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I would put it this way; I don't expect one, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised by one.
I don't really expect a blowout, I think they've shown the last two years they can certainly hang, although i do think it's a tougher go for PSU this year.
I will say if they win by 35 as the OP suggests, this season will either be one of the most dominant of all time, or end up like Alabama last year or another version of 2006. It's just been too easy.
If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!
I do. 52-14 is my prediction.
I think another point to make—we don’t truly know what kind of full 60 minutes this team can do if it needs to. We haven’t had to see our OL just grind teams late through a fourth quarter. An opposing offense hasn’t had to face four quarters of Chase Young just terrorizing them.
The results we’ve seen so far have been largely three-quarters worth of what our team is ultimately capable of doing to another team. We haven’t even really seen this team achieve what it’s capable of doing over four full quarters of football.
I don't expect a blowout as I think PSU has the ability to be close, even win and I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than bitterly disappointed. I also think that Saban's right about guarding against the poison of everyone saying you're the best.
Everything so see this year about how dominant we look is exactly what was said about *ichigan last year. The fact is that we are facing a team that views us as a rival. They will give us everything that they have. I agree that we are more talented; however, I am not going to sit there and underestimate our opponent. If our team is listening to this noise, then they will be in for a dogfight. If we get punched early, then I could see it being a close game.
There is a stark difference between whether we should dominate and if we will. And I see no more than a 14 point win with it being closer to 10.
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Yes, we heard that about ttun last season, and they won several games, but their wins were hardly dominant. I understand the hesitation and caution, and conservative view of these upcoming two games, but really, this season, this team is not comparable to any other season or Ohio State team in recent history.
33-17 W against Florida
29-13 W Air Force
10-14 L MSU
13-42 L Penn State
33-10 W Minnesota
10-24 L Wisconsin
36-14 W Cincinnati
28-10 W Purdue
27-20 W Indiana
35-15 W Rutgers
35-10 W Maryland
31-20 L Ohio State
19-26 L South Carolina
I'm expecting a close game. Three years in a row of very very close games. And we are probably the one team Penn State and Franklin single out each year anymore.
I think this team is fully capable of wrecking Penn State, but they will be ready
Given we've won by 1 point the past 2 years, I already am questioning my prediction of a 34-24 win.
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One breakdown I saw said the Nitties have trouble with RPO's because their LB's have to be on their heels. We haven't run much RPO this year (we're mostly zone read) so their LB's may be able to be more aggressive. They predict a score more in line with the spread.
Will Coach Day run more RPO?
PSU always plays us tough. I think this game will be closer then people think but i still think we easily cover the spread. Now if they happen to roll PSU like a lot of people think they will, I won't be surprised either. My conservative prediction: tOSU-48 PSU-27. PSU will score points but we will outpace them and win by at least 3 scores.
I'm with you. I think this game will be billed as a heavy weight fight. And it will be in the way that Mike Tyson and Peter McNeeley was a heavyweight fight.
Screw modesty. Ohio State is going to slay these bums.
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Weather will play a big part. Penn St has a terrible pass defense (84th ranked) but their run defense is top notch (4th ranked). Right now the weather is looking kind of poor, it least in the 1st half.
Just like it did against Wiscy. Except against them, the weather will have been worse, Wiscy has a better pass defense, and they had the #1 run defense.
This fan base and freaking out about weather—name a more iconic duo
I have never been one to make predictions or talk about my "feelings" for any Buckeye game, ever. I seriously fear I'm going to jinx it. even to Rutgers, I won't say we will win. As for the Penn State game I tend to fear them more than TTUN for some reason, Nerves don't grip them like the pressure in THE GAME does to TTUN. I will say I've never felt this confident in a Buckeye team in I don't know how long and I'm 45yrs old.
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Its funny that some OSU fans always want to see SEC teams play in cold weather and think that will hurt them.
They fail to realize that Ohio State is an SEC team not a slow slug B1G team. The Buckeyes skill guys from Texas, California, Georgia, Florida dont want to play in cold bad weather. Bad weather hurts their performance and ability to play with speed. Bad weather Saturday will help Penn State tremendously in this game.
Look for a close game decided in the 4th quarter.
Yeah the bad weather really helped Wisconsin lose by only 31
Right? Like—did Wisconsin have a single player from south of Mason Dixon?
That PTSD from MSU in 2015 makes it sound like our team is bound to shrivel up and lay in a fetal position when the weather gets under 50
I mean, it is one thing to play in the cold several times, and to be in the cold, used to it. It is another to be used to 60+ degrees and come down for a game in freezing temps. Acclimation is a factor.
If Hamler is healthy he can stretch the field is quick and shifty.He plays they have a punchers chance
The last three meetings have been decided by 5 points total. Now I know those years have nothing to do with this year but you have to assume we'll get their best shot. I wouldn't predict a "blow out" win for us but I'd love to see it!
I hope we do but I wouldn't bet on it. I am never lucky enough to win a bet.
38-20 Good guys! We are due for a pick six too.
Hello fellow fan's! First time commenting...weather isn't going to be good. I always urge caution when watching/commenting on big games! Buckeye's big this weekend? Maybe...remember field conditions, injuries, turnovers, stupid crap, "69, '95, '96, '98....just saying OSU is not a Juggernaut until all is said & done on the field. I've personally seen too much of the WTF was that!! I hope our team win's out and grabs a title this year but I'm not crowning them until 0:00 with a win in New Orleans! Thank you..
This team struggled with Indiana in Happy Valley, no this game will not be close. The only way I see it close int he first half is weather and Day gets conservative like against Wisconsin. Even then, when he had to open it up in the 2nd, the floodgates roared. Buckeyes with rain and wind, close at half 13-6, final 37-9. Without rain, OSU 32-6 at half, 51-9 final score.
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Penn State will cover
If Ohio State contains the QB runs and do not let them extend drives, this could get ugly. If we let them stay on the field and get across mid field a lot it will be a close game. I don't think that their defense is even close to ours. Their DLine does not defend wide very well and DB's are over rated. I don't know if they have an answer for a very amped up and motivated Chase Young.
You should respect the challenge that our players are facing, and not undermine the opponent. Predicting easy blowouts isn’t doing them any favors.
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You hear this Justin Fields? Stop reading this random threads on 11W and get back in the film room!
Are you making the argument that players don't hear or see noise? Hopefully you know what noise is.
Never say blowout, play your game and things will take care of themselves. It's great to have confidence it's wiser to keep it to yourself
If you can guarantee me the weather plays nice.. then I think we roll them... but some version of rain/snow and cold... no bueno.. Still think we win but wacky weather would really limit upside..
Am I reading the Wisconsin game thread again?!?! Who bumped it to the top?????
If you've ever played football you know there's a BIG difference between 60 degree weather and rain and mid 30s rain/snow mix with an inch or more of snow possible. Historically that kind of weather drives down overall point totals.. less kicking, less passing etc.. Spread opened at 59 points and is down to 55.5 at some sports books.
The OP asked if there was any reason we don't win by 35.. my answer was weather..
What forecast are people reading? NOWHERE is it saying to prepare for over an inch of accumulation. Most forecasting for a Friday (the worst of it) says accumulation less than a quarter of an inch. Temperature in the mid 40s. Very little by way of wind.
I swear this board will convince themselves we’re playing in the Blizzard of 93 by Saturday.
Yeah this seems like some Twilight Zone loop.. I re-watched the Wisconsin game on BTN in 60 today and if that's the worst they play in bad weather to a better defense than PSU... Well I am growing confident the Buckeyes will be ready come Saturday
35 seems high to me, but I hope so. We really just haven't seen the team tested for 60 minutes. I'll be surprised if they're ever playing from behind or it's not at least a 2 possession differential to start the 4th, but 35 seems high. I have concerns about the LBs still, but only against better teams than PSU.
I just saw where the line on the PSU game is even? Hopefully it was a misprint
I like Ohio State in this one. 69-0.
I'm just looking at this game as though it's the super bowl for PSU. If they upset us they get the division and probably into the playoffs if they win the B1G championship. That would meet their stated goal of getting to "elite".
So, I expect PSU to give us their best shot on Saturday. However good their best shot truly is will determine the score. But I think OSU wins no matter what.
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I think we are going to boat race them out of the stadium
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More concerned about TTUN. The only concern i have about PSU would be mistakes or injuries. Our guys will be so jacked up to be playing the last home game, with Chase back against a team people assume is much batter than i can give them credit for. I dont look for a massive blowout but just enough to keep our first team on the field all game which means 4 to 5 scoring drives while the d gifts us great field position all day.
TOSU 23 psu 20
I feel it will be close too, I usually do, though. Just get a Buckeye win by 1 point.