Baker perfect on opening drive. Probably going to end up 70-0 tonight.
Anyone see the Harbaugh wrinkle guard commercial? Who's got better pants then us? I dunno the last 4 Ohio St teams you faced?gold>khaki
It’s kind of a creepy commercial.
good start Browns
Thanks for the thread Loga.
Missed the field goal. Great start for the Browns.
Big stop there. Nice. And a missed FG to boot.
Fields of Dreams
Two drives end in zero points for the river rats. If Cleveland scores a touchdown in under 6 plays again I raise my prediction to 140-0
Ben Roethlisberger looking like a fantasy football podcaster pic.twitter.com/gByZ3kS20j
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If the Browns can get their OL figured out, they'll have a legitimate team
Had no idea Callaway got released today. Saw that coming.
"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski
Supposedly he was late again as well as popped by the league.
Showed up late twice and was facing a 10 game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
Oh GR if you make that block OBJ is off to the races. And god Kareem Hunt is good at football.
Hunt looking good
Not a browns fan but i hate hate Pittsburgh. Go brownies
Roads in Michigan are really smooth and the people there are always happy.......NOT
Welcome aboard the hate train
I’m with ya. Very disappointed they lost the big three for this year but still don’t suck
Trolls gonna troll, right?
Are you guys still killing me? I gotta say I must be pretty important if two douche bag known trolls as yourself are following me. Troll on trolls. Michigan sucks
The least you could do is do a better job of trolling. Must have a lot of time on your hands.
Don’t you go over to mgoblow?
I can definitely tell you are from Michigan. Wow unhappy troll
Wait is this m man? Dude you suck
If you just came over from 247 how do you know who M Man is?
My buddy over here told me to write that. He’s been on here for a couple of years. He also said lots of thin skin around here. Wow was he right. Grow some balls young fellas. Sorry but not much offends me, unlike you. I’m also not very politically correct. Will that be a problem?
"Will that be a problem?"
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
^^^^internet tough guy haha
TJ Watt being hurt could be huge
I wish the real world would just stop hassling me...
I hate these color rush uni’s.
The redditors love them.
also Wilson is flying around like a missile
Wouldn't mind running Chubb more often
*pick up 6 yards then don’t go back to him.
Baker back to lookin terrible.
That deep ball is more like it!
Scottish Hammer is a weapon
Reminds me of that punter bama used to have. But with flair.
Hilliard such a returner liability.
Baker should have been flagged for breaking that guys cankles
Hot take - Landry is the best WR on the team
Hotter take, Freddie doesn’t know what to do inside the 10
not sure that qualifies as a hot take
How is Jarvis that free
That hit didn't look good at all...
Yeah juju is done for the night
Touchdown on this drive would be killer
Baker going to need some help though
Defense playing with some intensity tonight.
Certainly bringing the heat. Garrett getting held on most plays but at least got two flags so far.
Somewhere, Jim Tressel is watching this game and is mildly dissatisfied with the punting game.
Wow ward crushing it tonight.
Don’t get me wrong I hate the Yinzers but I love the flicker.
Nothing warms my heart more than the Browns playing really well and the Steelers playing like the turds that they are.
Dammit. Needed those points.
Sigh fair catch that Hilliard still sucks.
That’s the second time they showed that cringeworthy clip of Bradshaw. He called them out for it the first time and he still didn’t look pleased that time either.
there must be some real animosity from strahan if he’s resorting to pulling that type of shit.
come on man
Well that illegal touching was not ideal.
Why is this team so dumb.
Heck of a game for Rudolph
Shhhhh. He is doing juuuust fine.
Nice pick. We gotta lock Joe up after this season.
OSU O LINE > Browns O LINE
All Glory is Fleeting
I’ll ask again. Why is this team so dumb?
They just can’t help themselves.
They are poorly coached.
It's a classic duel of which team can be dumber
This dudes name is redwine... seems legit
he always gives me a headache
Maybe he can bottle up this Steelers passing attack
que syrah syrah
LOL. My goodness.
Soooooooooo o line holding wasn't called - gotcha
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
Seattle Sounders 2019 MLS Champions
The Browns gave that TD to the Steelers with dumb penalties.
Let's Go Bucks
Browns are gonna screw around and blow this if they aren’t careful
that's the plan
Those sure were some phantom pi calls at least the NFL agenda is still going strong
I don't know if I've ever seen PI called on both players before
I’m not interfering, you’re interfering.
First for me also.
Well, this is a typical Browns game I guess.
I hate this team.
In other news, the Cleveland Browns released kicker Austin Seibert today. Open tryouts to be held at the Muni Lot 20 minutes prior to next home game
How ‘bout a sack, Myles Garrett? Been a pretty quiet game from him tonight.
Pretty sure he is getting held on every play no flags though
I was scrolling down to the bottom to see the reactions from the brawl, but this comment caught my eye and made laugh out loud.
At this point the NFL is a unwatchable product for me not even sure what a penalty is anymore . Add that to the horrible officiating and blatant controlling the outcome of games.
It’s absolute trash.
Now we need a score to make it a two score game.
Chubb is gonna break one.
Greg Robinson is trash.
Robinson is awful
Man.. Troy and Joe could make a co-ed wet t-shirt contest sound boring.
Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye
I’m not sure I’d just play for a FG try here.
What a catch!!!!
And yeah, that was a dumb throw. But we’ll take it.
Maybe they should throw to that guy more often.
Dude just absolutely Mossed the defender.
Rudolph isn’t good but the Browns need to take wins any way they can get them.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Dang, Denzel almost got one there.
Thank you Mason Rudolph. Cleveland loves you!
God I hope Rudolph keeps this up the next two weeks as well.
Did I mention Rudolph is bad?
Haha before the game they had a few threads in the Steelers reddit saying they hoped Rudolph was the starter next season too. I can support that as a browns fan.
I would certainly welcome that over the car mechanic that has had our number the last 15 years.
Even though he was only sacked twice, he was under a whole lot of pressure. It seemed like the Browns were having committee meetings in the Steeler's backfield.
The last time the Browns beat the Steelers the Buckeyes went on to win the national championship
Barf dropping some outstanding knowledge!!!
I like analogies like that. For example:
1964 - Cleveland Barons won the Calder Cup; Browns were NFL champions
2016 - Cleveland Monsters won the Calder Cup; Cavs were NBA champions
Rudolph is definitely the future in Pittsburgh
I have been watching this game expecting the Browns to find a way to lose, particularly after it became a seven point game. I must say that I am quite happy that they didn't fulfill my expectations.
I’m glad to have stayed up late for this one.
This is normal for me. A bit early even.
LOL at the Steelers calling timeout.
May the Steelers suck forever.
Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
O, FFS! Why?
Garrett is an idiot.
Garrett is going to get suspended. That was dumb.
For multiple games.
Myles, you have to be kidding me. 10 more seconds, you couldn’t have gone ten bloody seconds.
Fuck the thug Browns
I’ve never seen such a nice guy off the field make the dumbest on field decisions.
Just can't control his emotions... young, dumb and full of...
That's one way to put it.
Anything happen to Rudolph for trying to rip Miles Garret's helmet off which is what started it?
Bullshit. Garrett drives him into the ground long after the whistle
So he got tackled in a football game, then threw a temper tantrum and got bitch slapped. Biggest pussy in the whole thing was Pouncey, takes a real man to cheap shot a dude fighting someone else.
Awwww, poor little yinzer didn’t like the truth. I’d bet money she’s a Michigan..... I mean Steeler fan from Ohio too.
I'm a browns fan and feel Garrett deserves to be suspended. It was all okay until Garrett used the helmet in an attempt to bash Rudolph's head with it. In rivalry games, some fights breakout but never has a player used a helmet as a weapon like what had happened in this game.
The real man was Ogunjobi who decked Rudolph from behind.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
This was ugly but nothing close to the beating the Buckeyes took in a basketball game in Minnesota.
This kind of reminded me of Cryami vs. Florida Int'l. Quality sucks but you get the drift.
#2 started it.
Yeah gonna call bullshit on that garret literally dragged him down and continued to hold rudolph down on the ground. Even then you drag a guy by his helmet then deliberately hit him upside the head with it.
Yeah, your account of what happened doesn't line up. Garrett had a legit, clean tackle on him and Rudolph was upset about it for some reason and tried to pull Garrett's helmet off while they were on the ground. Garrett then retaliated by pulling off Rudolph's helmet, Rudolph came after him, and Garrett made the poorest of choices in hitting him with his own helmet like a club. Garrett should be suspended, Ogunjobi, Pouncey, and Rudolph should all be fined (although I don't think what Pouncey did in defense of Rudolph was dirty, you can't be allowed to throw punches and kicks in any circumstance).
Rudolph also kicked Garrett in the nuts while he was on the ground
Pay attention to Rudolph's right leg around the :30 mark
I don't know about you, but I'm kicking someone in the nuts if they look to punch my face or tear my head/helmet off. Both of them were dirtbags and one got the final headlining hit
You might want to invest in some better glasses
I would suspend Pouncy for a game.
His suspension should match Garrett’s, Rudolph should get a game.
You're on crack bro. You can not under any circumstances RIP a guys helmet off and swing it at his head. Its criminal. If it would have connected he could have killed him.
Who said he could? You can’t punch and kick someone either, or start fights because you got tackled, They should all get suspended.
It would not have killed him. Come on.
Getting kicked in the head can’t kill someone? News to me.
football is a violent sport and people use their helmet as a weapon constantly. The optics are bad from this instance but let’s not pretend this is all new ground here.
Who got kicked in the head? That person should’ve been thrown out too.
Garrett got kicked in the head repeatedly by pouncey while being subdued by decastro
Idc what anyone says miles Garrett is a piece of shit and should be suspended for the rest of the year and maybe more. You deliberately dragged a guy by his helmet then ripped it off and hit him in the head with it. Piece of shit and a thug.
Deserves banishment. Could have killed a guy.
There was nothing wrong with the initial hit and tackle. It was a continuation of the hit he made which was almost the same exact time the qb threw the ball. Mason clearly lost control of his emotions and was ripping Myles’s helmet while on the ground. What Myles did after was dumb but to act like the qb didn’t start the whole thing just plain stupid
100% correct. Garrett is an idiot and deserves his suspension but he is not the only guilty party here.
Totally agree. Miles clearly is a moron but we don’t need to pretend Rudolph didn’t start the whole thing.
Now now now. No need to call names, emotions can be expressed without name calling, unless it’s the proper name of involved parties, and not......
Freddie needs to go. This is the most undisciplined team I have ever seen.
Garrett should not be allowed on the field again this season. That was the worst I’ve ever seen. Also, I hate the Steelers more than any other franchise in professional sports. Regardless, that crossed the line.
Dairy-fed intellect and pure, unhinged sass.
Well it wasn't Turkey Jones Terry Bradshaw but it was close. Not a fan of either team but I like to see football rivals really be rivals.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. Urban Frank Meyer
Steelers are sore losers.
And browns are overhyped and overrated so
Funny because they just embarrased your steelers.
Overrated by who? We’re 4-6 and the dumbest team I’ve seen since the Marvin Lewis Bengals.
This whole season has been overhyped for them yes. Also not a steelers fan so
Only team undefeated in our division play is? Go ahead I’ll wait.
Garrett will be out for a long time, absolute bonehead move that will cost his team. Ogunjobi also got in a cheap shot on Rudolph. All with 10 seconds to go in a game that was already decided. Just wow.
All they'll be talking about tomorrow is the last 8 seconds which is a shame because the Browns might've turned the corner (finally!)
Man, that was pretty brutal.
What in the hell was Garrett thinking? He's got to get a long suspension for that shit. That was assault.
That was self defense. Watch the replay and pay attention this time,
self defense by who, Garrett?
Self defense? Even if Rudolph was grabbing his face mask intentionally, you can’t justify hitting a person with a helmet who isn’t wearing a helmet. Get outta here.
Yeah, it was self defense to rip a (much smaller) man’s helmet off and beat him over the head with it...
Stop trying to defend this, Browns fans. You look stupid doing it.
Smaller that's funny.
So self defense is grabbing someone still laying down by the head/facemask, ripping the helmet off, and then bashing him on the head with the helmet? I get there was a minor scrum at the end of tackle, but damn that's 3 big steps too far
Self defense? Ha. That's funny dude. I know you don't believe that.
The self defense argument is a little lame. He lost control of his emotions after Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off. He needs to be in control.
I can honestly say I have never seen that in 45 years of watching football at all levels. To rip an opposing players helmet off his head and then sling it like a weapon hitting him in the head with it. That just went beyond the game to assault in my opinion. You had the choking incident earlier this year and then this. Unacceptable.
So you think the 3 steelers on him were playing patty cakes with him?
Dude... I’m a huge Browns fan and there were absolutely Steelers doing stupid crap on this play. The QB was yanking on Garrett’s helmet. Pouncey was throwing mad punches and kicks. They should all be punished to some degree.
But what Myles did was not just stupid; if he landed the blow with the helmet properly, it could have been quite literally deadly.
The crimes are not the same here. Myles screwed up big time. I don’t like it, but it’s true.
Garrett shouldn’t be on the field for a long, long time. There is no excuse for that, whoever you root for
Was fun to watch as a bengals fan. The ending gave me flashbacks to Burfict trying to murder people also. And the bengals punter being karate kicked
I might be biased, but the AFC north teams can be violent with each other. Lots of attempted murders and knockouts, and a should-be-convicted murderer
The ending gave me flashbacks to Burfict trying to murder people also.
Shit, Burfict never did anything close to what Garrett just did.
You are correct, and that's saying a lot.
Joey Porter and James Harrison did though
I may be mistaken but hasn’t Burfict injured several players with dirty and late hits? I could be thinking of a different dirty player who played for the Bengals and then the Raiders and is currently serving a lifetime acheivement suspension.
He was an extremely physical / at times dirty player that absolutely crossed the line frequently (earlier in his career more so than later). I watched every snap of Burficts career. I know what he was. Did he ever fucking try to smash someone's head in with their own helmet? My statement was "Burfict never did anything close to what Garrett just did" and that is a fact.
I would say the stuff Burfict did was much more dangerous and actually injured people. You really don’t see how sprinting across the field, launching full speed, and hitting a defenseless player in the helmet is worse????
If you really don't think swinging a rock hard helmet (Garrett is lucky the bottom of it struck Rudolph's head) at someone's head isn't more dangerous and malicious than that hit on Brown was than I don't know what to tell you.
One was a football play (and I'm not saying it wasn't dirty) and the other wasn't.
Bengals fans will never take responsibility for anything their team or fans do wrong. Remember when their coach came out on the field with a mic, and proceded to schold the fans by saying "Where do you think you are Cleveland? We don't do that kind of stuff here." All the Bengals fans thought that was great. Well sorry but, Yes You Do! It's was on national TV, and on tape. Go ahead and deny all you want, we all saw all of the crap you Cinci fans claim only happens in Cleveland..
Mason Rudolph shouldn’t start fights, he can’t back up his mouth.
Mason Rudolph did start it... but the reaction was a gun to a knife fight. Also, why is Kitchens playing Garrett at that point in the game? Sit the man down.
Why was Pittsburg still playing their starters? Had Cleveland pulled their starters early and lost the game, all the idiots out there would say "That's so Browns." It's a 60 minute game. Play to Win! One other thing, if your gonna be a little sissy & kick me in the nuts. You better believe I'm gonna hit you with anything I can get my hands on.
Rudolph started that shit. Pouncy, Garrett, Rudolph and Pitt 66 all need suspended.
Go Bucks! TTUN tears are best! Beat Wisky!!!
Well the Browns Steelers rivalry that has been dead since the 90s is alive again.
Mason Rudolph still running his mouth in his PC hahahaha
Haha. Browns are the new Bengals.
Imagine Garrett, Pouncey and maybe Rudolph will see some suspensions. Garrett is clearly going to say Rudolph said something that set him off..
Just another reminder that Kitchens has no business being a head coach imo. WHY ON EARTH is your franchise d lineman out there in the first place..
3 players deserve suspension, the 2 Steelers you named and Og... the Browns DL. But fucking Garrett... that shitbag should be done. Banned. And he should feel blessed he's not behind bars. Fuck that guy forever.
Even in victory, Freddie is making rookie mistakes. I'm sure John Dorsey is keeping a list.
Yep no reason for the starting d line to even be in with 10 seconds to go. You know its getting chippy late.
That was ugly. Kitchens has NO control over his team. Garrett should be done for the year and possibly longer. The NFL needs to send a strong message. One hit in the right spot and Rudolph is paralyzed or worse.
John Dorsey is keeping a list? If he is, its what to pack when he follows Freddie out the door. Dorsey is the one who put this shitbag team together.
Watched the 4th quarter. Why? Not sure lol. Gave up on the Browns after the Kosar era. ok, saw the score 14-7 and was wondering how the Browns would choke this game away so clicked on fox streaming video. Props to Mayfield in his post game interview ie the Brown's won despite themselves as per usual.
Quick take ~ Garrett = 4 game suspension. Would have to care re: more takes. IOW cared just enough to make this post.
btw, that wasn't the Browns as they moved to Baltimore several yrs ago and changed their name to Ravens. :o
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You were never a browns fan because the browns never left Cleveland.
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Mason Rudolph looks like Billy Bob in Sling Blade.
After watching the Steelers cheap-shotting various Browns for literally decades, it's bitterly ironic that it's a national scandal the one time it goes the other way.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
That's how it's been since the 70s. Pittsburgh prided themselves on toughness, then cried that Jack Tatum and George Atkinson were dirty. Called Jerry Glanville and the Oilers of the 80s classless when they started to punch them back. They tolerated James Harrison's head shots for over a decade, but say Burfict is the dirtiest player in existence. The Steelers are professional sports' biggest hypocrites.
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"I thought it was pretty cowardly and bush league," Rudolph said. "I'm not going to back down from any bully. I felt like I had a bone to pick with him. I appreciate the line always having my back, but I was angry."
Funny how Rudolph starts the fight & then calls Garrett a bully. You deserve whatever you get if you intentionally kick someone in the nuts.
Luckily Garrett hit Rudolph with the padding at the bottom of the helmet and not the side or he would have cracked his head open.
Garrett is lucky. Had he been holding the helmet the opposite way that could have been really bad.
I'd give Rudolph 2 games, Pouncey 4 games, and Garrett at least the rest of the season if not part of next season as well. Fines for anyone else involved.
Though, who knows what they'll do. I was surprised that the longest suspension ever in the NFL was Haynesworth, who got 5 games for ripping a guy's helmet off and stopping on his face so he needed stitches. And Gronk only got a game for quite possibly the dirtiest hit I've ever seen on a football field when he speared Tre'davious White in the back. And I'm Bengals fan that watched Burfict et al.
As an fan of neither team, I saw a late but not particularly dirty hit by Garrett. Normally, this might lead to a flag, a bit of shoving, etc, end of story. Rudolph definitely takes exception to being taken down late and escalates the situation. Garrett respond in kind by ripping Rudolph’s helmet off. This is stuff we’ve seen before in the nfl and we will see it again. However, Garrett then decided to go nuclear and swing the helmet which led to punches and kicks from all sides. Lots of guilty parties, Garrett is the biggest offender though. Suspensions for him, pouncey, and maybe Rudolph
I pointed this out on Twitter, the fact that no one involved was innocent, and a Steelers sycophant equated saying that Rudolph and Pouncey weren't innocent was the same as saying; "A woman's clothes were revealing, so she deserved it." It's scary that people get THAT wound up and rabid in all the wrong ways about sports. I thought I was bad when after a loss to that team up north I stay away from sports on TV for a month, but the crazies on both side of this argument have scared me.
The only good thing about The Game is winning it - Urban Meyer
I wish social media would die.
there’s also browns fans apologizing and pearl clutching to other fan bases about this. What Garrett did would only reflect on the browns and the people that continue to support them if this was swept under the rug and people would continually defend him.
he made a bonehead mistake but it doesn’t define him or the team, unless he or they allow it again going forward.
Preach on, my friend. Preach on!
I'm not a fan of either team, so I've got no dog in the fight, but that was wrong all around. Mason was stupid, but Garrett totally lost control. And Pouncey, well, he wasn't much better than Garrett. I see the league coming down very hard on these three with a host of others in on the fray. There are some guys who are about to get a battlefield promotion on the practice squad, because I see a lot of missing games coming up that are going to need to be covered by someone.
And I would not be surprised to see criminal changes filed against Garrett. Pouncey might deserve them too. This was ugly.
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