Okay so the ONE year Bama is outside looking in, they cry for 8 teams. Go fuck yourselves.
Now they want an 8 team playoff (when it benefits them) Alabama fans are sore losers. They lost (got manhandled) on their own field and cry about wanting a rematch. I hope they sneak in the playoff and get wrecked again.
Let's start a #FireSaban campaign and then crack open a beer and watch while they burn down each other's trailer parks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just one more reason I say leave it at four. Expand to eight, and we’ll see the SEC Champ and three SEC at large teams. Screw that.
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Based off of previous rankings, there would be a better chance of 3+ B1G teams than 3+ SEC teams.
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Following their coach’s lead. Saban was against the hurry up offense due to injury potential until he could figure out how to benefit.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
He was against a spread offense too, until he could find an OC and players that could effectively employ it.
Harbaugh is looking for an 11 14 team Playoff.
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That was such a weird concept. It made sense, but in the same way a Rube-Goldberg machine makes sense. I think 6 or 8 would be an ideal size, anything bigger than that and you'd end up with a lot of early round blowouts.
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Wouldn't that extend the CFB season well into February (which means CFB is suddenly competing with the Super Bowl for viewership)? Yeah, I can't see the players being too thrilled with that (especially those that will be prepping for the Draft in April).
Keep it at 4 or kids headed to the League will be sitting out in droves - and I can't blame them
Not just sitting out but sitting out important games. That changes the outlook of CFB drastically because suddenly one team could be at a massive disadvantage in the NC due to multiple key players electing to sit out. The only way a 14-game Playoff would work is if they eliminate Bowl season altogether and move it up to an earlier date (and the NCAA would never agree to that, all the meaningless Bowl games make them a shit ton of money).
I've read it a few places, but an expanded playoff would ultimately help OSU/Bama/etc more than anyone else. The teams with the most depth and more talent will win a majority of the games. So you might upset them once during the regular season but given more opportunitites those teams are still going to rise to the top.
As a recent example, we replaced our suspended 5* DE with a younger 5* DE. Most other teams can't do that.
Expansion would definitely help the Ohio States, Oklahomas, and Georgias of FBS: teams that have been consistently in the top 10 but are less consistent than Bama or Clemson for various reasons.
Ohio State's habit of laying a massive egg against inferior teams the last two years has been the sole reason why they haven't seen the CFP since 2017.
True. I like the 8 team playoff so that you can't get left out when you win the B1G just because 12 people in a room make up a new reason to rationalize their choice.
If the SEC wants to play cupcakes and have 8 conference games, let them. if the Pac 12 cannibalizes itself, let it. Each conference can determine its own champion, and let's line up.
And yeah, OSU and Bama might be more likely to get in through an at-large, but the 5-8 seeds are going to have to go on the road, and frankly, I don't think Alabama can win on the road in cold weather in December so it will be a roll of the dice.
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
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This is more excellent than I can express.
Last week, Finebaum was saying Bama "MUST WIN" to have a chance at the playoffs. This week, he is saying they are "unequivocably one of the 4 best teams." Why state it that way? Oh, we know why...
Bama is hurting, no two ways about it. They need a lot of things to break right for them, and about anything can screw that up. They aren't dead, but they're on life support.
Nobody in the country is a bigger Bama homer than Paul Finebaum. He's basically to them what Desmond Howard is to scUM.
Miami, I want to agree with you in spirit, because Bama fans are entitled. But I actually agree with much of the substantive points this Bama brat is making, so it would be ad hominem for me to suddenly disagree because I don't like who is making the argument.
The four-team playoff isn’t working, partly for the reasons mentioned by this writer. I don't agree that it's a "committee of corporate clowns," but they don't need to be clowns for this process to have corrupted itself. The four-team playoff system is damaging the integrity of college football and alienating entire regions.
In theory, a four team playoff is superior to an eight team playoff. Unfortunately, in reality, it doesn't actually work. So I agree that "four is a fraud."
I also agree with the overall argument the author makes. I disagree entirely with his reasons and motives, however.
I also think this author, if he had any integrity, should have made this argument in 2017 when Bama benefited from the committee's inconsistency. To be fair, I don't know much about the writer and he very well could have always held this position, it just looks very suspect that he's making this point now.
I totally agree that it looks awfully convenient (using my SNL church lady voice) for this Bama fan to be making the argument now. And it won't hurt my feelings in the least if Bama ends up #5 in the final rankings. Indeed, I will LMAO.
But, if that happens, I also won't mind that all of the colossal whining from Bama fans will provide fuel to fire, either.
But they aren't arguing that 4 teams don't make sense for any other reason besides Alabama being left out and that was made clear by the last sentence! Everyone knows that 4 doesn't make sense, what makes sense is the champ of the B1G, BigXII, Pac12, ACC, and SEC, but I would also include the AAC, then 2 at large, which may or may not be the champion of the Mountain West.
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I agree about the writer's likely motives, but Bama and the rest of eSECpn nation getting snubbed two or three times and throwing hissy fits is probably one of the necessary prerequisites for a 6/8 team playoff to happen in the future.
This season there is no reason/rationale for them to be given the benefit of the doubt IMO.They are not returning national champs they got thumped like tOSU 3 yrs back.Therefore you must show your work.2 weeks to prepare and at Home and losing is not meeting that criteria.In the last 6 post seasons Bama has lost 4 times to Ohio State & Oklahoma once apiece and Clemson twice.If that was the Sooners we'd hear Choklahoma or the the Buckeyes we'd hear Slowhio or the Tigers we'd hearClemsoning from the SEC wonks.The Chuckie doll that is Gary Danielson and his demented take needs to be boxed and put back in the attic.Don't lose or don't bitch 1 loss bama has not demonstrated over those 6 years they are the proper pick every year.Certainly not a juggarnaut.Last Saturday just made that point
The best part is how Bama fans cant think of a single possible reason they are not top 4.
I will say thought I think it is obvious how everybody hates how the committee decides the rankings. Baylor is behind Oklahoma despite Baylor having two ranked wins to OU's 1. They also have a similiar opponent in Kansas State where Baylor won by 20 and Oklahoma lost. They are also behind two two loss SEC teams.
PSU was the #4 team last week and lost on the road to what is the #8 team so now they are apparently worse than Oregon or Utah? PSU still has a better resume than those teams.
Everybody thinks this system should change. Just take conference champions and settle it on the field.
Just here to upvote the idea of a sentient potato playing QB.
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We can't stop here; this is bat country...
Will he be a mashed potato after The Game?
I want Bama left out so bad I can taste it.
I want them in, and I want to play them. That defense is straight-up bad. Olave would be running free on every play.
Hmmmm, what would bring more joy? Bama left out of the final 4 or them getting in only to get destroyed by OSU again? Tough choice.....
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I want Bama to lose to Auburn and to then lose a bowl game - to someone like Minnesota/Penn State/Baylor/Utah. But then they’d just whine that they didn’t really care about the bowl game.
Imagine they are at 5 going into championship week and LSU beats UGA and they figure they’re in and then #6 Oregon jumps them after beating a #7 Utah. The howls coming from Tuscaloosa would be deafening
This is exactly what’s going to happen. Highly likely.
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If that's what it takes to get us to expansion, I'm with the Tide here.
It takes a bidder.
Oh hell, they could lose one, maybe two, more games and still make an eight game playoff.
What I'm really looking forward to is Bama being left out and then losing to someone like Utah in a bowl game. Tide fans will just claim their players couldn't get up for a non-playoff game.
Early Sugar Bowl prediction is Abalamba vs OkieDokie. I was there in '14 to witness the Sooners put the BOOMer on the Tide...
Wouldn't be the first time.
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
The same trash comment that UGa fans said when they got pasted by Texas this year
Tide fans will just claim their players couldn't get up for a non-playoff game.
Kinda like they couldn't get up for LSU this year.
To be fair, they also loudly supported an 8 team playoff when their non-SEC champion team beat us out for the 4th playoff spot in 2017.
Oh that's right, they did nothing of the sort.
I absolutely, positively LOVE the end "Here’s what the committee knows, but won’t admit. The fastest way to an eight-team playoff is if one-loss Alabama makes the four-team field again this year." Yes. Give you what you want but don't deserve in order for change...what a good Samaritan!!
Fucking clowns, Alabama fans are the absolute worst. Terrible winners and incredibly absurd losers.
a faster way is to leave them out.
The first team with any life they played all year and bama gets jail sex'd in the back of the trailer park, at home.
These A-holes would complain about an 8 team playoff that only has 6 SEC teams in it. Suck it up for a year cupcakes.
Alabamians have always been fine with two SEC teams ALWAYS making the 4 team playoff....when they were one of the two, NOW they feel they're born with the RIGHT to be 1 of 3 of the 4 or blow it up, so we can get in.
Call Coach Hairball at U of M, he's go a formula that allows both his boys and your boys to play for a National Title EVERY year.
Honestly, I'm fine with then getting in. I would love to see us demolish them en route to a date in NOLA with vastly overrated Clempsun. Although I'd also love a shot at UGA.
Hasn't Saban been one of the staunch supporters of keeping the playoffs at four teams, saying the system works. I wonder how he feels now.
Yeah, him and Dabo. Imagine that.
But of course whoever has power always supports the status quo, and then becomes an agitator as soon as they lose power.
Poor Alabama fans just can’t understand they’re lucky they didn’t drop further after losing at home and giving up 40+ points :(
Bless their hearts...
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But, does she have teeth?
Yes, but her brother already called dibs
No. That's why the "tooth"brush was invented in Alabama. Ain't no one got teeth.
I would definitely roll her tide
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Correction to this statement from my OP
Ohio State, meanwhile, has the potential to go into the final rankings with a Big Ten Championship and 6 wins against teams with 4-losses or fewer (Cincinnati, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Michigan, Indiana).
It's actually 7 teams, as FAU looks likely to finish the regular season 10-3 or 9-4 with an appearance in the C-USA CCG. Miami OH could also potentially finish 9-4 with a MAC title, but 7-6 or 8-5 seems more likely.
Here's the thing they don't realize. Oregon had the courage to schedule a tough out of conference team like Auburn and not a Duke or Western Carolina like Alabama does. If Oregon wins the Pac with just that one loss and is left out for Alabama, an AD would be beyond idiotic to keep tough ooc games on the schedule. Then all of us peasants in non-SEC conferences know the only way we make it barring total chaos is to be undefeated.
To give some credit where it’s due, Bama almost always has a good OOC game. This year they had a bad one, but that’s the exception.
I would amend that they've tried to have a good OOC game each year. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately for Bama) a lot of the teams they schedule (FSU, USC) end up being shitty when they play.
Also Bama loves their "neutral site" games because they don't like the idea of playing a blue blood program in a hostile stadium
When's the last time Bama played an OOC against a team that FINISHED the year in the top 25???
Alabama can eat a bag of dicks.
Everyone wants an 8 team playoff when their teams are staring #5 or #6 right in the face. Hell we all wanted an 8 team playoff the last couple of years.
Not everyone. I know I did not - and do not want an eight team playoff. Four teams is enough.
Im good with 4 but only if they limit selections to one team per conference. If they expand to 8, then maximum 2 teams per conference.
"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."
If Alabama wants it then ESPN wants it. So an 8 team playoff just might happen.
so no one on here was clamoring for an 8 team playoff when we were left out?
I’ve felt an 8 team playoff is best and I still do. What’s being pointed out here is the hypocrisy of Alabama who always wanted it at 4 as long as it benefited them, but the moment they get an inkling they might be on the outside they clamor for expansion.
Also I remember a story about Saban recruiting Brenton Cox before his flip to Georgia, laughing that Ohio State was left out of the playoff. That has always rankled.
In theory an 8 team playoff is ideal. Gets a better mix of teams in the hunt without completely devaluing the regular season. In my mind the problems lie with the logistics (Further extension of the season, the current contract through 2025 (I believe) etc) and the PR associated with player safety issues due to that additional game. I’m sure it will happen and won’t be against it when it does, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be for at least a few years.
4 is very exclusive, almost too exclusive.
8, to me, is too convoluted, too many teams
I love 6. 1 and 2 get byes, you can have conference championship guarantees, at-large etc.
Just my preference.
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I think, eventually, 8 is inevitable, but a 6 team playoff seems more likely in the short term. A 6 team playoff means that (most years--I'm against auto-bids) all 5 P5 conferences should be represented and you'd still have room to slot in one more at-large team.
For sure, and even then if you didn't guarantee all 5 P5 champions, I'd be okay with the four highest ranked P5 teams, an at-large and 1 guaranteed bid for the highest rated group of five team as well. But again, that's just me. I would want 6 and have the opportunity to include everyone, including the group of five so you don't have the USF's of the world anymore, but still have a bit of exclusivity.
Sure, in Division 2 they have like 128 teams in the playoff but yep, 8 is way too many!
I do believe the Buckeyes play division 1, and with division 1 there is MUCH more at stake because the NFL is stocked with a massive % more of D1 players vs. D2.
I absolutely hate the idea of the ‘top 2’ getting byes, because who is the top two is so subjective and it creates an unfair advantage.
100% in agreement. The 6 team playoff is such a dumb idea
I am with you! Playing 6 almost seems more unfair than 4 or 8. When the first round teams winner loses that game where the other team had a bye-week everyone would be screaming “you had a week off blah blah blah”
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i cant count how many times i heard the same talking head discuss Lsu's dominate win over Bama and then acquiesce to the thought that BAMA very well could have won that game. ALL IN THE SAME BREATH.
5 Power Five Conference Champions.
1 Highest Ranked Group of 5 Team
2 At Large Selections.
This isn't hard. This HAS TO OCCUR. Hopefully soon....
Please no automatic bids. Other than that, an 8 team playoff is perfect imo
If Joel Klatt is correct, an 8-team playoff is coming in the next 3-4 years and will include autobids for the P5 champs. No playoff system will be perfect but, after 2015, I would rather have too many teams in the playoff rather than too few. I'm ok letting a 9-4 Pac12 champ in, it's just another game to watch. Hopefully they won't load it up with 4 SEC teams but even if they do, we are still guaranteed to get a Big10 team in every year.
There will be multiple B1G teams in often, that isn’t my concern.
In an 8 team format I kinda think if you win your conference you ought to be given a shot. Those three other spots are for the teams that also show they are the best and deserve a shot.
Why would their fans wish that on Tua? He already cant run and now they want him to play against CY#2. Idc let their bitch asses in the playoffs so they can get smoked by the Buckeyes. Fuck the sec
More drama than middle-school girl friends. Love it!!
Last Saturday was like a playoff game for Bama and LSU. Maybe the Tide should have held serve on their home turf in said playoff game and then they wouldn't have to complain about a playoff system that has been quite kind to them since its inception.
Did you really expect anything different coming from a state in crying need of dieticians & dentists?
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I've been having fun trolling on al.com. It's just too easy to rile up those entitled idiots. They have no comeback for "what's your best win". My screen name there is "MrMansfield123" in honor of my hometown of Mansfield, OH. lolol