What was the point of having OSU #1 last week? I'm already sick of the committee.
I don't understand the question. They felt OSU deserved the #1 ranking last week. Are you suggesting they not rank teams prior to the final ranking?
If the selection committee was going to put the LSU/Alabama winner in the #1 spot after their game then they should have made them #1 and #2 in the first poll.
Why would they rank a team based on a game it hasn’t played yet? Neither LSU nor Alabama should’ve gotten, and didn’t get, credit for playing the other until they’d actually played. LSU’s resume wasn’t as strong last week and as a result wasn’t strong enough to displace OSU based on the latte R’s dominance. Now it is. It’s very simple. What you’re saying makes zero sense.
Because they’re the CFP selection committee. If you need further proof of strange rankings, how the heck did Texas go from unranked to the top 20 in one week?
Not only that, but they left a 3 loss Kansas State team in the top 25 to justify the Texas ranking.
So you’re unhappy they didn’t use bad logic with OSU and LSU? I agree with you on Texas’ ranking, but Texas’ ranking has little to do with OSU. Even if Texas wasn’t ranked and IU was, LSU would still have a better resume right now.
Except the committee justified their ranking based on Texas.
Texas’ resume (3 losses) was enhanced by a top 25 win against Kansas State (3 losses) that the committee used to enhance LSU’s resume to justify jumping LSU over the Buckeyes.
To be clear, I was expecting the selection committee to put LSU over Ohio State this week... I just find it humorous how they rank undeserving teams higher than they should be to justify its picks. Had the Buckeyes been unimpressive against Maryland I could have seen the selection committee’s position in making the move to jump LSU over us. But leading 42-0 at halftime, sitting your starters the entire second half, and still winning 73-14...hard to see how the committee came to the conclusion that we were no longer the best/most complete team in college football.
I agree, let’s not stray too far away from the committees mandate. When it is two teams that appear equal, the tie breakers are SOS and who did you beat. It took guts for LSU to schedule Texas on the road and is still viewed as a quality win.
What concerns me more is Alabama Ranked at 5, not that they don’t deserve it. In all likelihood it is going to take Georgia winning out and beating LSU in a close game to keep Bama out of the CFP. And I personally see #1 playing Alabama and #2 or #3 playing Clemson. Right now Ohio State Buckeyes have their 3 biggest games (Minnesota/Wisconsin not Rutgers) coming up. So if Ohio State takes care of business, I envision Ohio State playing #4 Alabama and #2 LSU playing Clemson.
In conclusion, I couldn’t care less if were #1 or #2. Win out and we will be playing Alabama.
Go Bucks!! Beat Rutgers!!
"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes
I think what bothers me the most with all of this is the fact that Alabama had its chance and lost. Lets say this is how the final standings shake out with
I think that this would be a joke. Since Alabama already played and lost to LSU. The comittee should flip either OSU and LSU or Alabama and Clemson and make Alabama and LSU play again for their right to go to the NC. If they feel that those are two of the best 4 then fine but to give both of them the opportunity to meet in the final game would be ridiculous on so many levels. They lost the only game they needed to win (Alabama) and they still get rewarded? This would make conference titles obsolete along with saying that you dont need to schedule anyone in the beginning to make it in.
I was looking at the SEC schedules for all their top programs and not only do they only play 8 conference games they all play a FCS school. It is a joke
Buckeye since 89' planted in the heart of TSUN territory. Nothing makes me happier than watching TTUN's delusional fans believe this is the year it all comes back... Its a brand new Day
This committee will push Alabama in any way they can so better hope Georgia beats LSU.
LSU/SEC “slurp, slurp”
If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.
the biggest question will be if both LSU and OSU win out - both will have the same amount of wins over top 20 teams - i think HOW ohio state beats their remaining 3 ranked teams will decide that - if they control those games, then they'll have to be at #1. if they're close games - who knows what the committee would do?
9 Penn state
Losing a close game is a loss. Why the hell cant people understand this. Sometimes the teams with more talent aren't in the Super bowl. Its the teams that are playing better football. Lose late and your out.
The ugly truth is often downvoted
I'm ok with LSU being 1, their win over Alabama moves them up. That's how the committee is supposed to work, evaluate week by week, not rank and leave unless someone loses like our antiquated AP and Coaches polls. That part is fine. But your flipping of Minnesota/Alabama is what should have happened and where the committee showed their ass. Minnesota is undefeated and has a win that outshines Alabamas entire schedule by a mile.
I hear you on resume and wins but at the end of the day the committee is going to have a conversation about who they think is the better team regardless of resume. Anyone who knows football would take Alabama over Minnesota and probably Oregon and Utah as well. Me personally, I would even take them over Georgia. The eye test is going to matter.
Ohio State, which becomes the first team ever to drop from the No. 1 spot in the CFP rankings after a win
This line pisses me off so much! If it was Bama beating Vanderbilt and we beat no. 3 Michigan we wouldn't have jumped them. Complete BS.
That all said, win out and we are the no.1 seed
I will pound and pound you until you quit
- Woody Hayes
We are better. -drops phone-
agreed. this poll stuff is fun to talk about; but, bottom line - ohio state has played dominant football on both offense and defense and in a way that no other team has played during this season. i don't care who we play - the only way they lose the NC is if they beat themselves.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
LOL..........even the horse looks scared! i just hope they don't have justin fields HS coach on the staff - or we could be looking at trouble
Hopefully when we beat Rutgers by 60+ points this Saturday we won’t drop out of the top 4 teams.
Apparently italics (aka sarcasm font) is new to you?
In trouble only if Fields took an improper benefit, that he’s been lectured about not taking.
Nice horse, speaking of which it's a beauty contest now unless one of the top 3 loses. Indeed, Rutgers will be the Buckeyes 10th straight win by 24 pts and penn state/ttun/minny or wisky will probably be the 11th, 12th, 13th respectively.
Can the Buckeyes beat Clemson/LSU/etc. by 24? Absolutely! Stay tuned ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain
Must be the alternate uniforms the Scarlet Knights are wearing this Saturday!
They will need that horse to out run the Buckeyes.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
The way things look. The number 4 seed is likely Alabama, Oregon, Georgia, or Oklahoma.
I would rather face Clemson while they are on a down year.
no way it's bama - they have no teams left on their schedule to climb back up. it'll be the winner of the utah/oregon pac12 title game.
Simple facts of the past tell you that if Alabama beats Auburn who beat Oregon, the committee will not rank Oregon over Alabama.
Oregon has a chance to win an extra game that Alabama cannot which should play a factor. It helped us in 2014 when we jumped both big 12 teams. If the Big 12 had a championship game, there would be a good chance we wouldn't have ever made it to the playoffs.
right but it better be an impressive win. thats what got OSU in, was the fact we beat the dog snot out of wisky
That's how a logical person would do it, but then again why is Georgia ranked over Bama? Bama beat South Carolina. Who beat Georgia? That's right a group of chickens. Makes no sense trying to make sense.
If OSU, Clemson, and Georgia win out, I think the seeds will be OSU, Clemson, Georgia, then one of LSU or Oregon/Utah or Oklahoma. I see no way that Georgia can be the 4th seed. They will be at least a three or out completely with two losses or more.
Let's Go Bucks
Clemson is not on a down year, they have had one close game and obliterated everyone else. They are the one team I don't want to face in the Semi's. Give Dabo a month to prepare? No thanks.
This is absolutely correct. Anything else is spoken by people who aren't watching the games. Yes, Clemson should have convincingly beat UNC. They didn't, but they still won, and at the end of the day that's all that matters. And they've beaten the rest of their opponents pretty damn badly.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
I really don't care; hell rank them #4 if you want. I like their chances right now against the field. Add Chase Young after a brief hiatus and the Buckeyes are NO QUESTION the most complete team in college football this season. I hope the doubters are loud and our team inflicts anger one week at a time, starting with Rutgers.
You can say that again, SpringtuckyBuck!
I would have been ok with being second in the first place but now I’m annoyed. Just sayin’.
Beat Rutgers, Beat everyone.
Skibuck that's the best way to describe it I have heard
God bless and go Bucks.
Barring something bizarre like needing a late comeback to beat Rutgers, there's no possible way we would fall below #2 without losing, and I think going back to #1 is still a possibility regardless of what LSU does.
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Here's what gets me, the rankings have a decidely SEC flavor. Now maybe they deserve it, but it seems that they are setting up the SEC to get 2 teams in. Here are prime examples, Indiana wasn't even on the board, ok fair enough, but if they beat PSU and Michigan in the coming weeks, do they jump Auburn and Florida? Minnesota, undefeated, better top win than Alabama, still ranked 4 spots lower. PSU s/b higher than Utah and Oregon, better wins AND better loss, but if you move them above, you'd have to move Minnesota above them, and then they'd be in the discussion with Alabama, and based on resume, they should be ahead of them too. Resume matters if you are SEC, not so much in the B1G. not saying conspiracy, but the lack of Northern CFP members is very telling.
I'll be the expert for a moment.
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"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra
The more I think about it, the more I think this is how the top ten should have played out. I haven’t thought PSU has looked great all year, but neither has Georgia, and PSUs resume is unequivocally better than any team outside of your top four. I also believe that if Baylor wins next week they would deserve to be slotted at 5, right behind Minnesota.
It’s almost like PSU is being punished for losing to a good team. Because Minnesota is undefeated, they have to be ranked higher than the one loss team they just beat, but the committee isn’t ready to buy stock in the gophers yet, so the solution is to drop PSU an unreasonable amount. Meanwhile, Georgia has no such conundrum, so the committee can just ignore the fact that they lost to a terrible team and look only at their quality wins. It’s really unfortunate.
I agree Georgia should be held to the same standard as OSU the last two years. If you have a stinking loss (Iowa, Purdue) (South Carolina) you should be punished for it. I don’t agree that PSU is the #5 team in the country.
Not buying that Texas is impressive. And Indiana is playing better than them lately. I guess as long as we keep winning all the other stuff is just noise.
Fields of Dreams
Beat penn sTate first. If we drop that game all this talk is for nothing. Team needs to stay focused
Three beam laser focused...
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Just win baby!
Yep, just win and the fan base shouldn’t worry about the gnashing of teeth.
This may be the only time we'll ever see the #1 team fall in the CFP rankings after winning by about 60 points. While LSU had a big win against the best team of this decade, they did give up 41 points to them and Tua was not even 100% healthy. I think Day is happy we are no longer #1 as it will help motivate this team even more entering the home stretch of their schedule. If they just keep winning and dominating, they'll be the obvious choice as the best team in the country.
The two NC play-in games on December 28th are the Peach Bowl in Atlanta and the Fiesta Bowl in Arizona. Which game is the #1 vs. #4 game and which game is the #2 vs. #3 game?
"Life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it." - Woody Hayes
They aren’t pre-determined. It depends on who #1 and #4 are. The #1 team plays in whichever game is more geographically advantageous for them vs their opponent. For example if OSU was 1 and Georgia was 4, it would be a disadvantage for us to play Georgia in their backyard so that matchup would go to Glendale.
Using this week's rankings as an example, LSU would go to Glendale to play Georgia since Atlanta would be to Georgia's advantage.
Simpler explanation...the #1 team gets to choose where they want to play.
Essentially, but I don't believe the school actually has any say in it. I'm pretty sure it is the committee or whomever that decides what they THINK is more advantageous for the #1 seed. It is plausible in the current scenario that LSU may actually prefer Atlanta over Glendale despite Georgia's close proximity because it is shorter travel for themselves and their fans. If LSU had that mindset, they would still go to Glendale.
I have no problem with LSU at #1. Would love to stick it to Dabo in the CFP anyway. Would be a shame not to see him get his after 2016 and his negative recruitment of OSU.
Means absolutely nothing if we don't beat Rutgers.
I guess it means nothing if LSU loses to Miss St. too then.
Georgia lost to a 4-6 SC team... at home. I don’t care that osu got jumped, keep winning and we control our own destiny. The sh*t that kills me is the Georgia’s, the no quality win Bamas, lose to 6-4 usc Utes... this is an abomination. I don’t understand the logic of this committee. Im starting to hope we play two sec teams and beat their brains in, just to take them off their pedestal.
That might not be a bad way to go about it. I had the same perplexing questions myself. Wtf did UGA get such a boost. That S Carolina loss was really bad and then they went and lost to App st last week too. Positioning Bama at 5 and UGA at 4 is a total political move to put 2 SEC teams in again. Its so obvious its disgusting. Not only that, they don't even want to mention IU who is on the same footing as scUM in the b1g, better record than OkSt, Texas, Kstate, and clearly a better team than Navy and they cant even crack the top 25. Its pathetic.
The only thing I don’t understand is the separation between Penn State and Georgia. One team has wins over #11 (by 7) and #16 (by 6), and a three point loss to a dumpster fire, while the other has wins over #15 (by 7) and #20 (by 5) with a 5 point loss to a top ten team. Both teams have the same flawed look to them, yet one is 4 and one is 9. Maybe the committee thinks 4-9 are all in the same league, and the differences between them are minuscule, but perception matters, and playing the #4 ranked team in two weeks looks a lot nicer than playing the #9. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, and I know the committee’s job is tough, but it’s frustrating that the SEC seems to win all the ties, and for no real apparent reason.
I think 4-9 are all pretty much equal.
What did you want the committee to do? Keep PSU at #4 after losing? Others have said it. The highest the committee was willing to move Minny was to 8, and PSU needed to be behind them.
They hate us cuz they aint us!! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My issue with it is this: If the committee was comfortable putting Minnesota at #4, I believe the committee would have gone Bama - 5, PSU - 6, Georgia - 7, and ranked PSU's resume appropriately. Because they weren't comfortable with Minny, they had to boost another team (Georgia) unreasonably high in order to get Bama out of the top four. Now if Minny beats Iowa this week, and the committee slides them up to 4, will they revisit PSU's ranking as well, or will they just shrug and say "what's done is done," and keep them where they're at, despite their quality wins?
No surprise that the SEC has the top ranked team, 2 top 1-loss teams and the top 2 loss team in the polls. All of this is based on the assumption that the SEC is better than every conference and not what teams have done on the field.
Eh. LSU being #1 makes sense. I question some of the things going on behind us, but I guess I don't really care that much. Focus on the prize. Win out and none of it matters.
Not that upset with LSU being number 1 because it was already close between Ohio State and them for top spot. Alabama win gave LSU a slight edge. Why doesn't Georgia get punished more harshly for losing to a terrible South Carolina though? Oregon lost to a ooc Auburn team that is currently ranked #12 according to the committee in a close game. Wayyy better than losing during the middle of the season to a terrible South Carolina team. Of course if Georgia wins the rest of their games and conference championship, I feel they should be in.
I love how they said "when we watched Ohio State" like they even watch the teams from kickoff to 0:00. An 8 team playoff is what is needed. If you win your conference you're in and 3 wild card teams.
Sad part is, if there where three wild card spots that just means the committee will find a way to put 4 SEC teams (1 automatic qualifier and 3 wild card) into an 8 team playoff.
There would have to be a cap of two total teams allowed per conference. Fuck the playoff committee and their SEC bias.
I just want to go on record saying that the common belief that osu benefits by being ranked lower than deserved for motivation simply doesn't wash in 2019. So far the Ryan Day edition Buckeyes don’t seem to play any worse as heavy favorites. In fact they play pretty much the same against everyone.
I just want to add some balance the hundreds of posts I’ve read this season preferring lower than deserved rankings. (Plus it kinda borders on superstition)
Damn! Now we have to leave the starters in until halftime, just so we don't slide to #3.
Good.!!!! Have never understood wanting to be #1 if you look at the big picture. #1 means playing in Atlanta vs an SEC team or Clemson. #2 or #3 means the freaking Fiesta Bowl... Columbus Ohio West... I'll take 2 or 3 all year long over being #1.. Fiesta Bowl is basically a home game..
The number 1 team can pick where they play and Clemson will be either 2 or 3. Would much rather play any team besides Clemson first because I feel they are the toughest opponent. So having the first seed will be beneficial this year
Would rather play any team in the top 4 in Arizona vs Atlanta.. There would be a TON of pressure from Alumni/fanbase to pick Atlanta if we end up #1 because of proximity.. Being 2 just takes that option out of Gene's hands.. No SEC team is picking Arizona..
And maybe I'm in the minority but OSU vs Clemson ( they don't travel like we do) feels like the best first round match-up you could get of the obvious suspects. Give me Georgia or Clemson and their traditional offenses in the first round.. save the Bama's and LSUs and their 4 and 5 WR sets for the final game.. Much rather keep things as is on defense and then work on the 4 and 5 wr stuff if we are fortunate enough to win in the first round. Much easier transition imo vs traditional all year and then 4-5 wr sets and then back to traditional...
So if OSU and LSU meet in the Championship game it will be in New Orleans. hhhmmmm Seems like a fair and neutral site. LOL
Not worried at all about it. I think the Committee nailed the top 2. The rest..... slightly more questionable. Either way, they rercognize that the Buckeyes are crushing it.
"Hell, there's no question who'll win"
Rankings at this point is still just hypotheticals. Not sure if it deserves this much hype. Most important things for us is 1) free Chase, 2) beat shitagain, 3) win big 10. The playoff is too far for us to waste too much energy to take away our focus. GO. BUCKS, KEEP DOMINATING.
Actually the most important game left is beating PSU. That guarantees us a birth in the B10 Champ game. Losing to Mich would not eliminate us, but a loss to PSU would.
IIR someone has posted that the final CFP rankings over the last 5 years have been the same as the BCS generated teams.
The CFP is a wonderful marketing tool and ,as designed, continues to create a lot of buzz/commentary/controversy. You can't tell a great story without a villain (SEC) and a hero/heroine (everyone else.
The CFP has simply slapped a shiny new car body on a used engine.
Read their words ... right out of Mullens mouth. LSU is the most deserving team. He didn't say they were the best team. So the goal has switched (which will hurt Bama). It isn't the 4 best teams, but rather the 4 most deserving teams.
I have no problem with LSU being #1 this week, they absolutely have earned and deserve it this week, coming off that game against Bama.
The committee still loves Ohio state, and if we curb stomp two top-15 teams in PSU and *Ichigan back to back weeks, we very likely could be #1 going into Champ game weekend. It's all good.
Attack and Dominate, and if we end up having to play Clemson, so be it, you have to BEAT the best to BE the best
I hope the top 3 stay the same. I want Clemson and LSU this year. This is the best case scenario.
Considering the popular vote and the BCS era were a joke the playoff's are the best thing we have had to date, but damn the playoff committee is a joke. They knew last week that the winner of the Bama/LSU game was going to be #1 so why not start OSU at #2? Makes no sense for a team that wins by 59 points without the best player in college football to be dropped. I just want to be in the top 4 cause I'm positive we can beat anyone out there this year, but damn if the SEC crap isn't obvious. Look at #4. FREAKING JAW JA!!!! I can hear Keyshawn Johnson hollering Come on man! They lost at home to S. Carolina who lost at home to who? AlaaaaaaaaaBAMA! That makes as much sense as OSU dropping after winning by 59 points. So hypothetically JAW JA and LS WHO win out, now you have 2 top 4 teams in the SEC Championship. Only one can win and who is lurking back there in the shadows with no one left on there schedule to slide into the top 4? AlaaaaaaaFREAKINGBama. Just keep winning Bucks, I don't think we can afford to lose one like the SEC can.