THE SITUATIONAL: NEVER SURRENDER

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Tulsinator's picture

This team was as disrespected as maybe any since Jim Tressel brought home the title going into the preseason. Crazy to think OSU wasn't even considered a top 10 team knowing Justin Fields was gonna play. Like he was such a big question mark.

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booj's picture

I just don't see how "these guys are crazy talented but a new coach and a new QB are usually harbingers of volatility--let's wait and see." is disrespect.

I mean, whatever you want to turn into juice in the locker room, I guess, but as fans we don't need that.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

This team with Chugunov is better than Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida, Auburn, and Oregon. 

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BbBnD's picture

The defense was a huge question mark before the season too, though. I think some people are taking that for granted now.  While I know a lot of folks around here had a strong feeling the defense would be much improved, anyone claiming they predicted the D would be this dominant after last year’s performance is full of shit. If OSU had a top 20-30 D, which still would’ve been a huge improvement, and Chug started, we’d probably look a lot like UF (better RBs offsetting worse D).

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Tulsinator's picture

I totally agree on the defense. But seeing as last year was basically worst case scenario and no running game on top of that, they still go 13-1, B1G champs and Rose Bowl victory.

Hard to think there wouldn't be some improvement on the defense. Think about 2013 to 2014. Literally Chris Ash comes in and th defense goes from borderline terrible to national champs.

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Tulsinator's picture

I see your point, but "new"coach Ryan Day had been here a couple years. And Fields transferred into an established program. If anything this was more Oklahoma, Stoops to Riley than a volatile question mark.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Crazy to think OSU wasn't even considered a top 10 team

Even crazier to think that TTUN WAS.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Findlay419Buckeye's picture

G&W Private Stock...the perfect bourbon for mixing with Mountain Dew.

--Every New Jersey frat boy.  Ever.

Findlay by birth, Buckeye by the grace of God.

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Darksungm's picture

"So should we take Rutgers lightly? Yes. Let's not get carried away." -as good as it gets

God bless and go Bucks.

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GlenBuck's picture

I wonder is Urban is upset that he doesn’t get to coach this juggernaut that he built.  Been a pretty low stress season so far.  Might have been a lot easier on his health than last year.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I doubt it because he had this team last year when he was coaching. If anything he is probably wondering why he let his loyalties to the friends and family make him so soft

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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novabuckeye's picture

As much as I love and respect Coach Meyer for the great things he did, this team wouldn't be the juggernaut it is if he was still the coach.  It took Day bringing in a largely new (and great) defensive staff to make the big difference.  I don't think Meyer would have made as big a change if he had remained in charge.  I also think the offensive play calling and in-game adjustments have been better than they would have been under Meyer.  We lost a great coach and it looks like we got an even better one.  We live in wondrous times to be a Buckeye.

Go Bucks!

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Dillon G's picture

Not enough seem willing to admit this.

#walkaway

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stpetebuck's picture

Assistant Coach selection is amazing so far.  Day looks super human so far. 
but let’s finish making this movie before we judge the screenplay. Just my thought. 

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MaxPowerBucknut's picture

I think this is one of those cases of standing on the shoulders of giants. Urban Meyer revolutionized college football, even back as early as his Utah days (and some may say BGSU days—I didn’t watch much BGSU football then, or now, but I did watch the Utes). The things Urban did as far as scheme, offensive strategy, and being cutthroat were a new combination in college football coaching. But like a lot of people that are wildly successful at what they do, Urban had a difficult time continuing to evolve. 

The things that he did that were great, like recruiting, continued to be great. His offensive philosophy got a little bit stale, and he lost some of his edge due to health issues, or loyalty issues, or whatever. Ryan Day was able to sit in the background and observe all this, as well as sit behind Chip Kelly, and pick up a lot of different pieces. Obviously being an offensive genius doesn’t hurt either, but seeing Urban Meyer and Chip Kelly first hand and picking the best of each of them to go with your own mind is a great luxury. 

And because he’s “new”, Ryan Day doesn’t have any of the loyalty issues that plagued Meyer’s selection of assistant and position coaches in his last 3-4 years at OSU. He’s still recruiting like a boss, and has great coaches to develop players. Urban Meyer set the standard, and even elevated it from regional powerhouse to national title contender every year.  Let’s just hope he can keep the train running (I think he can).

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buckeye1964's picture

SO TRUE, novabuckeye!!!!!! i wish i could upvote your comment 10 times. urban was not longer the guy for the job - poor asst coaching hires and his RPO offense was gettting too stale and predictable.  i don't know if anyone noticed - but at halftime of the wisconsin game we were up 10-0. as the players were leaving the field, i could hear urban saying to the other commentators "ohio state needs to use more quarterback runs to loosen up the wiscy defense". and i just sat there thinking we are SO LUCKY to have coach day.

danny

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pannich's picture

Well said. 
The atmosphere is def different. If Meyer had stayed, that doesn't change. 
 

Buckeye glad to be back in Ohio

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dgreenq's picture

Based on comments from the players, it seems like the coaching changes across the board played a large part in creating a much less stressful environment (see this article for example https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019/11/108501/presse...)

Would Urban have hired the same coaching staff as Day had he stayed? Who knows, but probably not.

Would a football team playing for Coach Meyer in his 8th year play as loose under Coach Day in his first? I'd say almost definitely no. Different personalities, different expectations.

Urban had a huge hand in building the infrastructure that's still there now and helping recruit these players, yes. But there's also a reason this team looks and feels different.

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buckeye1964's picture

HE DID HAVE A CHANCE. and the resultsN (so far)  weren't nearly  as good. he had poor asst coaches to shoulder some of the blame - but there is no getting around ryan day has brought urbans team to a level URBAN was NOT able to achieve. not to mention the team seems to be having more fun; playing more efficiently, and is more confident than any buckeye team i remember  in recent years. and i won't even discuss the 2 30 point blowout losses. 

also, i keep hearing about urbans "infrastructure" and how wonderful it was - that's all well and good, but urban wasn't able to use his own brilliant infrastructure to get us to the playoffs the last 3 years (and the year before that when he got us there he was blown out by 31)

urbans career is legendary, for sure. but the last few years he's shown to have had some issues. i'm not about to disrespect what ryan day is achieving by giving credit to urban for the success of the buckeyes now. we're lucky to have coach day.

danny

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I'm convinced that those who do preseason rankings love playing the hypothetical game because they are banking on either side of being wrong so that they will have more to write about, so it is in effect a self-fulfilling prophecy for them - ie they can't lose their jobs because they have a story whether they are right or wrong. In fairness, not even our own fans could have foretold how Day was going to come out so mercilessly, but here we are, and I am living the dream. Than you Ryan Day.

My brother-in-law went to law school at Minnesota and he is so stoked beyond belief. I had to remind him that he is a Tressel protege, and of course that made him have the same conflicted feelings I had, which is love the wins but hate the way the wins come by sometimes (that is turtle shell offense after getting a lead). I comforted him by reminding him the Jim Bollman is at MSU

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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Moo Strength's picture

I’m convinced that people who write up these preseason top 10 posts are either morons or high, because they have absolutely no credibility whatsoever. It’s like me trying to pick what the temperature is going to be next year every day of the week next year in March. 

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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Davep160's picture

Even high I could pick better.

The lord of brevity.

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Count Chocula's picture

How is Bollman still employed at any p5 school much less MSU? I just don't get it.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

P.J. Fleck has B1G Coach of the Year all sewn up no matter what Ryan Day's team accomplishes over the next four weeks - and no matter what happens should Ohio State and Minnesota meet in Indianapolis for the conference title game.

Kirk Ferentz would like a word. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I keep forgetting Cory Hart had another hit outside Sunglasses at Night. Sadly, that song did not have a Sax solo. It wouldn't have worked with the synthesizers.

I had hoped either Iowa or Purdue could have won the B1G West this year just to repay those two losses we hate discussing. Our B1G opener next year is at home vs. Iowa so we'll get our chances then.

After Saturday the matchups with Rutgers will carry a little more intrigue. They are going to hire Greg Schiano back. Safe to say their defense won't be a concern.

Too soon?

"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski

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Nutinpa's picture

Wednesday’s are better with Ramzy!  
Although we will get some recommendations from the local beat writer, if you (Ramzy) have some local, New Bruns watering holes to suggest before or after the game, they will be appreciated!   Looking forward to being there Saturday.  Eh....other than Raffertys.   Been there dozens of times. 
thanks!

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BuckeyeSki's picture

VERDICT: Slaps like ketamine.

Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe

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Roman Brutus's picture

5 of the top 10 preseason power ranking poll are from where??!!  EEEESSSSS CCCCEEEEEE CCCCCEEEEEE baby!!!

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MOBUCKK91's picture

That Preseason Top 10 though ...

You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.

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ibuck's picture

Notice that ESPN promoted their league (as always) by choosing SEC teams for 3 of the top 4 and 5 of the preseason top 10.

Why would anyone place any value on the opinions of such a biased network?

Pure propaganda.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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Dethsyth47's picture

There is no ESPN SEC Bias. /s

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Hovenaut's picture

I wore my sunglasses while Chase Young was suspended.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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BuckeyeSki's picture
Sanford and Songlasses 

Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe

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Hovenaut's picture

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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brband64's picture

A few years prior to college football's conception, the sport of baseball was invented 35 miles away in Hoboken.

"It feels great ... it feels like, 'Shit, I got it.'" ~ Jeff Hafley

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osu78's picture

Don’t forget NJ other great invention: Jersey barriers.  Rutgers may wish they had installed some Saturday. 

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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Poco Loco's picture

All is well that ends well.

a hard rock miner from Butte, Montana

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

They call it Minnesota 'Nice'.  It's really Minnesota 'Ice.'  Don't let the locals fool you.

The Big Ten West is a Wild, Wild place. Happy to see Coach Fleck and the Gophers outrowing their competition, for now. I hope the Buckeyes get to meet the Gophers in Indy, and we get to see the boat run aground.

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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McGrind's picture

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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analyticalguy's picture

In your list of things brought to us by New Jersey, you firgot to mention bubble-wrap. The Rutgers QB could use some on Saturday.

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ATLBuckeye92's picture

I used to look forward to the Situational just so I could go straight to the Bourbon section.  I'm not sure how I feel about not reading that section first anymore.  The 80s Sax Solo Intermission has been phenomenal and I find myself wondering what's featured this week before it even hits the site.  Thank you, Ramzy!  Been a fun trip back to the 80s, if only in my mind.  

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

"Never Surrender" ... ah, brings back memories of the 45 seconds I listened to that song back in the day before changing the FM channel in disgust and ignoring it hence and forever more.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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SpielzWheelz's picture

CLASSIC!!!   Could you imagine if we were known for those older fine young gentleman being in-game entertainment? 

SpielzWheelz

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DaytonBuck1980's picture

Slaps like ketamine

now that’s a sax solo I can get down to

Still not giving a damn for the whole state of Michigan. 

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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bnateAZBuckeye's picture

Future report from Piscataway:

And it was on this Day of our Lord, the 16th of November 2019, that our cannons.. were silenced

"Step on the gas, go as fast as you can, and don't let up until we sing, CARMEN OHIO!!"-Coach Mick

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stpetebuck's picture

Having Young back makes me so happy because we all kinda hoped we would get Bosa back last year but didn’t.  So Christmas has come early. 

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BrewstersMillions's picture

It was never going to happen because we knew Nick would give way to Chase before the injury....but my goodness a senior Nick Bosa and this Chase Young is a scenario that will be at the top of my 'dream OSU football scenarios' list for a long time.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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The Braden's picture

The locals even hate their city - they refer to it as Piss-that-a-way.  

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stantmann's picture

The only shocking part of that tweet is that Maryland was ranked this year.

If Temple were in the SEC, they'd be touting they beat a top 20 powerhouse. 

"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra

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CanadianBuckeyeEh's picture

E-SEC-PN Sucks. 

That is all. 

"Be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of someone else." - Judy Garland

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KCAlum's picture

How many consecutive years has there been a Barber on Minnesota?  50? 

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