Chase Young Gives Explanation of NCAA Violation

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Cooper's picture

A freaking loan, man. I get why the NCAA would be suspicious of any sort of outside loan but the guy apparently repaid it in full. This sucks.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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BrutusB's picture

I think we need to know:

1) Amount of loan.  $500 sure feels different than $25,000.

2) When he paid it back.  Would look hella suspicious if he got a check, OSU asked him about it, and then he paid it back. 

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Cooper's picture

A lot of variables, certainly. 

I’m hopeful there is nothing but 100% truth in Chase’s tweet.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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d5k's picture

I had a similar thought about #2, but then we have bigger issues if it wasn't reported to compliance at the time.  It seems more likely someone outside of compliance/OSU figured out that it could be NCAA issue and tried to cover tracks by repaying.  Likely someone close to his family or in his family.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

D5k, that is total conjecture on your part.  There is no basis for you to come to that conclusion other than your own preconcieved notions.  Stop it.  Are you trying to throw shit against the wall and hope its true so you can say, "See how smart I am?" or are you a troll?

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SoonerBred's picture

Actually, at this point, anything anyone says on this thread, is total conjecture, speculation, a preconceived notion, an opinion.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Not true.  There are some facts out there if you stipuilate that Chase Young's tweet was in fact him and he's telling the truth.

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d5k's picture

My post isn't total conjecture it is based on the facts we have.  Based on Chase's statement, he paid back a loan last summer but compliance only reported a potential violation just now.  This is why I said we have a bigger issue due to the timing if anyone related to OSU told him to pay it back and he didn't just do it under his own volition or on advice from someone close to him.  My educated guess which you seemingly misread to be negative/trolling is that the latter is more likely. (EDIT: Note that this is the good scenario for OSU)  Unless Chase is lying about repaying it those are really the only 2 options in terms of the potential compliance timeline.

I guess you are suggesting a potential third option is that this was a loan from the beginning and Chase paid it back on contractual terms.  I have a bridge to sell you if you think that is what likely happened.

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keith7456's picture

Yeah because no one ever borrows money from someone and then pays them back.

I borrow money often and then pay them back as soon as possible. It said he paid him back over the summer. Maybe he got a summer job or got money for Christmas/his bday and had some extra money.

As to how this came out maybe someone said in passing "yeah I had to borrow money to get this or that" and someone over heard it and said we need to look into this

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d5k's picture

Sure I guess it is possible.  I think Chase is getting railroaded and the NCAA is BS to be clear. 

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keith7456's picture

That is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities with the track record of the NCAA.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

My post isn't total conjecture it is based on the facts we have.  Based on Chase's statement, he paid back a loan last summer but compliance only reported a potential violation just now.  This is why I said we have a bigger issue due to the timing if anyone related to OSU told him to pay it back and he didn't just do it under his own volition or on advice from someone close to him.  My educated guess which you seemingly misread to be negative/trolling is that the latter is more likely. (EDIT: Note that this is the good scenario for OSU)  Unless Chase is lying about repaying it those are really the only 2 options in terms of the potential compliance timeline.

This post is full of bullshit.  You have no idea of the inner workings of the timing.  All you know is that it was announced publicly today..  And the part I bolded from your post is absolutely total conjecture and therefore bullshit.  Particularly since we learned today that compliance found out about it the day after the Wisconsin game and the Columbus Dispatch has confirmed that there is documentation that it was paid back over the summer.  So your whole point of the timing is crap and shouldn't been added to the noise.  You should have just shut up with the conjecture and wait for the facts.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

So long as the "family friend" has NO connection to OSU or an Agent.....AND it's not a crazy amount of money, I think he should be okay.....the NCAA is very much on the defensive today than it was than when they nailed Troy Smith and Tat Gate.

If it's a simple loan to a real friend of the family, the NCAA will be under a lot of pressure to let him off with a 1-2 game self penalty....hell let him rest up and come back and kill PSU and TTUN. Might be better.

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NotoriousGIB's picture

Are football players not allowed to take loans from family friends?  I would think this is only a conversation because it wasn't a family friend but I don't know what the rules are. 

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Extramedium's picture

It sucks that he'll miss a game but if everything he said is true, it's really the best news we could hope for at this point.  It seems like once everything is sorted out he'll be back in time to face the Rutgers juggernaut.

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nutabuckas's picture

Dear god please just let this be 1-2 games....feel bad for chase :/

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typeOHpositive's picture

I love OSU, I hope this blows over quickly, but I think God has more important things to be concerned with.

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Bucks's picture

Obviously ppl will wonder who this person is that became involved in his life the year before college.

Additionally, the question will be how did this come to light? Stoneburner won't stop blatantly insinuating Harbaugh was involved.

Past all of that. He took a loan that he paid back, last year? It's against the rules so it is what it is. Certainly doesn't seem to rise to some level of end of season.

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Dstacify's picture

Stoneburner is just trolling at this point. And considering Harbaugh has shown that he is not above flinging crap at people in a public setting (see his Urban Meyer comments at the B1G Media Day and the situation with James Hudson) my take on that is what goes around comes around.

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CarolinaBuck's picture

If this "loan"is between Young and a friend of the family, how does Harbaugh even know? In fact, if this is "loan" was between Young and a family friend, how does anyone know?

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Bucks's picture

I'm sure by tomorrow, every damn stone will be turned. I can't see how & don't necessarily see it being the case.

With that said... how either the NCAA or OSU became aware of this first is the big question. Chase's statement reads that this is a friend who still exists & was repaid some time ago. If that's the case, who would have motivation to turn this in?

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MTBuckeye12's picture

who would have motivation to turn this in?

Did you see the #1 ranking this week?

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

If that's the case, who would have motivation to turn this in?

Fair point, unless there are more layers to this. Is the "family friend" somehow related to OSU? Is he/she an agent? Amount? Time it was paid back? etc.

If it's a transgression, it's a transgression, but we really don't know this yet. Overall, though, reporting violations is the only way that violations get dealt with, even if there are undoubtedly huge inconsistencies in fidelity in the actual reporting. 

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Dstacify's picture

Let me put it this way. If James Joseph Harbaugh of all people actually has insider intel to what's going on with the OSU football program behind closed doors people involved with the program currently should be fired immediately for letting that information get out to untrustworthy sources to begin with. What Stoneburner is suggesting if it were true would be more damming to OSU than Harbaugh considering we wouldn't want the head coach at a rival program having regular inside access to our players.

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Clarky's picture

Glad to see all the support for him in response to his tweet.

Part of me is very nervous only due to remembering how small of an infraction can get you into trouble with the NCAA (I'm referring back to the list provided by 11W before the start of the season that shows all of our self reporting violations). 

Hopefully, this is as innocent as it truly seems. 

With that being said and remaining optimistic, rest up Chase and I cannot wait for you to be back by Rutgers (or Penn State).

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keith7456's picture

This sounds good right?

Much respect to Chase for coming out and accepting responsibility. 

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Codeezy's picture

Yeah but the rules are the rules. The fact that he was allowed by the compliance office at the Univeristy to even issue this tweet statement is a good sign. If he’s back on the field this year it’s a win. 

How long has that van been there?

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

That's what I am gleaning from it. A school approved tweet (wow, what a time to be alive) seems to be a trend in the right direction.

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stxbuck's picture

Agree-if something really bad is going down, tOSU admin is tighter than the NSA against leaks/info.

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grahamkamp's picture

I was shocked to see him send out a tweet like that as fast as he did, but its a good sign

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

If he knew the guy before he enrolled, what's the issue?

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BrutusB's picture

That's not a get out of jail free card.  Agents know who the 5* guys are too.

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Milk Steak To Go's picture

A guy he knew the summer before he enrolled in OSU.  So we're talking 6 months, tops if he was a early enrollee (i forget).

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Extramedium's picture

They don't know if there is an issue, but they are playing it safe. 

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Sounds as though he broke a rule, and he is aware that he broke a rule, and that we all understand he broke a rule, but it doesn't sound like a "serious" infraction to me.

I'm no NCAA Governor, but c'mon, let's just get this done and get our guy back on the field.

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Sheridanclan11's picture

The problem with the NCAA has always been that their rule book is too large, the rules contain little common sense, and they mainly punish those who break those petty rules. 

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js2378's picture

Someone tell him to shut up. Innocent or not, accused people do not post public information. 

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namod65's picture

His tweet literally says he's working with OSU to resolve this. You really think this message wasn't proof-read by them first?
 

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CraigKressel's picture

NCAA is not a court of law, its best to tell them everything that happened or face the hammer.

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ZQY's picture

We live in a messed up society when honesty is so regularly discouraged.

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CauseICouldntGoFor3's picture

Good on Chase for getting out in front of it before the rumors start to swirl.  The best way to handle these situations to be clear, upfront, and not avoiding it.   

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stlbuckeye15's picture

At least it's self reported and sounds like it wasn't anything that the staff or anyone else knew about. Let's hope this mess gets resolved before Penn State so we can all move on with our lives. It's just so funny/infuriating to think of all the violations that are worse going on all over the country that no one reports and that never get addressed. Wonder how this all came up to begin with.... why now? Glad he's doing the right thing but hope it doesn't trash the season. We're gonna need him down the stretch 

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blocko330's picture

A LOAN?!?!?!?! From a family friend?? That he paid back?? That's where we're at with this?

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Seattleosufan's picture

Thank you for sharing this tweet so that all of us without Twitter can see what’s up.

seriously, man. I so appreciate it especially today. 

Deserves got nothin' to do with it

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OHBoy74's picture

Sounds pretty good.  Depends on the family friend plus maybe the amount.  Is he an agent?  If in fact it was an arm's length loan made in good faith that is repaid, it shouldn't be a season killer.  Is there more to the story? 

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TXNut2488's picture

I think this is a nothing story but osu is being proactive. But yes depends who the family friend is

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Srow_SpecialK's picture

I don't think this should be a big deal, but who knows with the NCAA. The loan amount is also important as well as how he got the money to pay off the loan.

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

According to Bruce Feldman who spoke to a compliance expert.. if he did take out a loan and has repaid it, a 1 game suspension is probably all that will happen.. if so RPI to Rutgers QBs even moreso.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

Feldman saying he has NCAA sources that indicate if he can prove it was a loan he repaid—likely a one game suspension

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O H Y O's picture

The NCAA cares more about its players receiving benefits than them actually cheating and using steroids. Hello Clemson.

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Extramedium's picture

Yeah if only he'd used some PEDs, Day could just come out to the press, chew some gum and say "aw shucks I don't know what they put in them protein shakes!" and we'd never hear about it again.

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

This seems to be good news, especially coming from an NCAA compliance expert. This might end up working itself out by the end of next week. Certainly doesn't sound as serious as initially thought?

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BrutusB's picture

I think there's a lot more to it than that.  Otherwise any guy caught getting paid could just pay it back and sit a week.  (For the record, I'd be fine with that, but I don't know if the NCAA would be.)

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bd2999's picture

Pretty sure an NCAA compliance expert would be aware of a fair bit of that sort of thing. He already set it up as if it was a loan and paid back. In other instances, if you are just given money, than it is an issue.

Have to wait and see.

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BrutusB's picture

I would imagine the key part is to establish it was actually a loan and not just a gift.  If compliance asks you about a $1000 payment and you go "oh uhh, I was just borrowing that" then it probably wasn't a loan.  If you paid it back BEFORE getting called out your case is stronger.

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Extramedium's picture

Unless he paid it back in the last hour, I think he paid it back before getting called out.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

There is a big difference between having a loan that was already paid back over a year ago, and getting caught taking money and being like, "ok I'll pay it back now can I play?"

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Akron Buck's picture

I think the key is repaid before it became an NCAA known issue.  Different to repay it after discovered and it already paid off when coming to light.

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Gametime's picture

Great post to calm the fire. I imagine if this was the beginning of the year, he may have just missed the opener and played in week 2 for secondary violations.Luckily this will only help build depth along the line against two lesser teams at most and still give Chase the chance to beat the single season sack record.

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

Silver lining to the situation, but I am just thankful it doesn't sound that serious. Chase wouldn't have put out a statement if it was worse. We will see how it resolves itself in the next few weeks. The point remains that the NCAA is a garbage organization and I am somewhat thankful that the national attitude towards their treatment of players is shifting.

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Ohio1111's picture

Unfortunately as we know it’s never this simple... the action itself is only part of the issue, bigger concern is when the university learned about it, and what was done about it. 2018 covers a lot of ground and a lot of games. My guess is more is to follow.

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Extramedium's picture

If it wasn't this simple they wouldn't have let him send out that tweet.

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d5k's picture

I don't know, I think the tweet benefits OSU more than Chase.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

The key questions this statement raises for me are:

1) The size of the loan (obviously) 

2) The nature of this "family friend," because unless I'm misunderstanding him, it sounds like this is someone who has been a "friend" for less than three years, and after a point at which Young's potential as a football player was obvious — which sounds less like a genuine friendship and more like someone who has been waiting to cash in. This is the part that concerns me, because that relationship is going to need to be looked at further if it hasn't been already.

3) Why our players can't seem to get the message that anything that involves giving a scholarship athlete something, especially money, even if it's a (cough) "loan," needs to be cleared with someone in the Athletic Department. I wouldn't give Chase Young a stick of gum without checking with someone first. 

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Wishingcouldgoforthree's picture

It’s sad this subject is my first post or comment, but I would assume the additional question that needs to be figured out by the school to make sure it is a minor violation is how did he pay the money back? Hopefully came from a parent, but it’s not like Chase had a whole lot of time to become the player he has with offseason work and to find a job and go to class. 

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I asked that below and it's a good question — a question that frankly we'd all be asking if this was happening to another school.

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Wishingcouldgoforthree's picture

I guess I make the assumption (which I know not good to do) that even athletes can take out student loans each summer and maybe when those funded he paid it back. That’s my hope in this situation. Chase knows he is going to get paid with nfl money and just took out student loan. 

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SackMan's picture

Ironically, using student loan money to pay off a debt for something other than coursework is most likely, in and of itself, an NCAA violation.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

The fact he had to borrow money so his family could watch him play in the Rose Bowl is messed up. NCAA should be ashamed. 

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CraigKressel's picture

Where did you see that is why he borrowed it?

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Clarky's picture

He doesn't know if this is a fact, he's just regurgitating what he saw on social media somewhere.

I also saw that it was for basic necessities.

We won't know until its close to over.

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BrutusB's picture

That's with the giant disclaimer that the plane ticket rumor is accurate.  "$1000 to buy plane tickets" is an easier sell than "$30,000, part of which is to buy tickets"

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fastlax16's picture

If it was $1000 to buy plane tickets, the family friend would have given it to the family, not Chase, to buy the tickets... or he would have just bought them himself.

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Hovenaut's picture

Thanks for the update, appreciate CY addressing.

With that, I'm all about getting back to football - and supporting the rest of the team tomorrow.

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rkylet83's picture

Per Bruce Feldman, an NCAA compliance expert believes that if the loan can be proven that it was paid back,  a one gamer might be enough.  

I doubt it’ll be that light...but here’s to optimism.  

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Gmac44135's picture

If the NCAA is fine with a 1 game suspension, then Ohio State will suspend him for 3.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

Was going to post this, but this damn site won't ever let me embed tweets anymore saying "I'm blocked" lol dafuq.  

Anyway, this dude is a former NCAA investigator who worked on other cases like the Tatgate. 

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think there's a clear question that presents itself here: if Young's financial situation was such that he needed a loan for "basic life expenses," then how was he able to pay it back, given that there's no obvious way for him to be making money currently and he still presumably has those basic expenses?

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bd2999's picture

Not really, I think they get some money from the program and then could have others from elsewhere. If it was small, it could be paid back from that.

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Buck-n-A's picture

His parents?

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

OK. But if his parents had the money all along, why not just come to them first? Then there would be literally no issue. 

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Akron Buck's picture

don't players get a stipend for living expenses and certain times of the year, also his family could have paid it back over a number of months.

Could be a situation where his family didn't have enough spare cash on hand for something (tickets) but was able to budget and repay over a 6/7 month period

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BrutusB's picture

This could go one of two ways:

1) If it's actually for "basic life expenses" the NCAA might want to avoid coming down hard in light of all the recent legislation.

2) If Chase is claiming $50,000 (or whatever) is for 'basic life expenses' his chances or leniency won't be good.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Well it says "small loan", so I'd say 5 figures are out of the question.  The fact that he's being suspended for this at all is pretty egregious and just swayed me to the pay the players side of the argument.  Unless Nevius and Young are flat out lying, this is a bunch of BS.

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Buck-n-A's picture

This is EXACTLY how this needs to be spun.  If he needs a loan just to make ends meet to attend college and have a social life, there is something wrong with the system.

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

If he needs a loan just to make ends meet to attend college and have a social life, there is something wrong with the system.

Not saying I don't agree that this is all a bunch of bullshit, but I know what it was like to attend college and not have money for much of a social life.  I wasn't an elite power 5 athlete though, so nobody gave a shit lol.  I don't think that in itself is an indicator that something is wrong with the system, but I think its bullshit that he cant get a loan from a friend just because he is an athlete.

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youra6's picture

Taking Chase's word for it, the NCAA can go suck a bag of dicks if they let Chase sit out for more than a game. The rules should never be black and white. Taking hundred dollar handshakes from bagmen is one thing, borrowing money from a FAMILY member is unequivocally another.

Stoneburner said something about a cheesburger, I get the reference now. It's a nothing burger. Let's just hope the NCAA has half the sensibilities as the rest of us and let's this go

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CauseICouldntGoFor3's picture

I upvoted after i read:

 the NCAA can go suck a bag of dicks

Nothing makes me upvote faster

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BuckeyeGoneNuts's picture

Point of clarification... not a family member, but a "family friend".  A lot of shady characters become "family friends" as a way to get an in representing the athlete as an agent later etc.  Not saying that's the case here, just saying family member is not the same as "family friend", especially someone he's only known since he became a 5 star high school recruit.

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Independence Village 22's picture

Johnny Effing "Football" Manziel got a half game suspension for signing memorabilia for money from an agent. A "half" game suspension? Come on man.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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youra6's picture

So you're telling me that if I am a college athlete and my own fucking aunt or uncle gives me 500 dollars for who cares what, THAT is a violation? The more I think about it, the more the NCAA is starting to look like a police surveillance state. 

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Clarky's picture

You are now what us millennials call... woke.

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youra6's picture

I too am a millennial lol.

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Clarky's picture

Touche

"If Chase Young is truly bigger than I think he is and taller than I think he is, he would probably have to be the literal Predator because I've seen him with my own two eyes and I personally think he's pretty damn Sasquatchian." - Kevin Harrish

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

That's a family member, though. There are well off kids playing college sports (like Lori Loughlin's daughter, LOL). I assume Peyton Manning drove a nice car at Tennessee and no one was suspicious about where it came from.

But Young's statement does raise questions. How many of us have a "family friend" we've known since only the summer of 2017 where you'd feel comfortable asking them to loan you money?

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BrutusB's picture

I mean, Peyton's dad was an NFL QB.  Didn't really need to wonder where the car came from.

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

It was a family friend, not a family member. And yes, the NCAA doesn't count "friends" as part of your family paying for college. Agents can be friends, bagmen can be friends, mobsters can be friends. 

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SoonerBred's picture

The loan did not come from Family which would include an aunt or uncle but from a family friend who he has known for 2-3 years.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

So, if 2 games is the punishment, I guess its a good thing this came to light on November 8th not November 22nd...

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

A more recent case involved UK:

Kentucky's Denzil Ware took $1,628 from an agent, it was self-reported by UK, and UK suspended him one game.

The SEC and NCAA concluded that no additional punishment was necessary.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

Amazing how precedent can blow up someone like Lamb's entire credibility.

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Dmac3212's picture

Lamb was previously considered credible?

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Dstacify's picture

Was the second game due to Clinton-Dix not properly trademarking the name "Ha Ha" lol?

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Was Haha the one who took his loan from a coach? That would seem to be the bigger issue there than the dollar amount.

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Dstacify's picture

If he did that would warrant the program getting punished as well, not just him.

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Grand Lake Celina's picture

It did come from the coach (think like assistant strength coach) and the program was not punished.  Saban fired the coach for what that's worth.

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lamplighter's picture

Beat Maryland, then beat everyone else.

Hope Chase gets back soon

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Chuckeye Buck's picture

Two years from now people will be getting loans from college players of Chase Young's stature...….

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matti's picture

The SEC and Dabo just did a line of coke with a rolled up hundo (wolf of wall street style) and called OSU rank amateurs at this shit. 

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OSU069's picture

All I have to say is fuck the NCAA

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erniefurgler's picture

With the current climate of allowing student athletes the ability to make money off their likeness, I would like to think the NCAA wouldn't come down too hard on something like this. 

But this is the NCAA so grabbed your ankles and hoped for the best

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I still do not trust OSU and Smith (with Drake) to handle this well. They seem to bend over for the NCAA when they really do not have to.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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fastlax16's picture

A “family friend” he didn’t know until he was 18, who immediately gave him a loan. For everyone buying that I’ve got a bridge to sell you as well.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

You have a pretty interesting definition of "immediately".

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fastlax16's picture

How many good family friends did you not meet until after you turned 18? Also, Do you want to buy the Brooklyn bridge? I’ll give you a good price.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

How many people consider something that happens 2 years later to be immediate?  That's the real question.

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fastlax16's picture

He said he repaid the loan in full last summer, not that he got the loan last summer. He met his bag man, sorry... family friend for the first time in summer 2017.... shortly before enrolling in OSU and in 2018 was given a loan. So could have been as little as 4-5 months. I know everyone kills people, gives loans to teenagers they’ve known for like a year yada yada yada. Maybe he can serve the rest of his suspension next year.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Get the fuck out of here troll. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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fastlax16's picture

So you think he legitimately met this generous family friend for the first time in his life when he was 18? None of you are that stupid. 

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

I care about the Young family's friendships about as much as I care about Harbaugh outbidding Dabo for Rashan Gary.  I can see that you struggle with the concept of friendship though, which really doesn't surprise me.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I don't make stupid assumptions like you do. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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fastlax16's picture

What's another name for someone that befriends high profile athletes before they enroll in school and subsequently gives them cash? Bag man.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

You also have an interesting definition of "Bag Man" if you think they give out loans.  Some public school system failed you it seems given you struggle with the use of simple words.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Well, you have.  Just not this time.  LOL.

jebes Michigana

jebi rak

Ako ne možete postavljati bez gluposti ... nemojte

Ako vièeš na suce, ti si šupak
 

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Chuckeye Buck's picture

Screen name checks out......you are very quick at spewing shit out of your mouth!!

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youra6's picture

Don't worry, we are still gonna kick the ever loving shit out of you guys come 11/30.

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fastlax16's picture

I have no doubt you will beat Michigan. I'll be rooting for you.

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fastlax16's picture

So you're buying that its a legitimate family friend he didn't meet until a few months before he enrolled. Good on you still believing fairy tales.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

You still believe in Jim Harbaugh...the biggest fairy tale of all

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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fastlax16's picture

Jim is a joke, like the idea of this dear family friend. John is great though. Go Ravens.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

I was with you till that Ravens bit. 

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Roman Brutus's picture

Bagmen don't give out loans ex-lax.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

By "family friend" he is literally suggesting that it is someone who is a friend of his family, not necessarily a friend of Chase's. 

I know that my parent's lawyer was Brent and they turned to him for legal affairs. Never met the guy myself. 

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fastlax16's picture

I'm aware of the difference. Not many people consider the family lawyer a family friend but I guess some do. Most people will have met their parents good friends at some point in their childhood. Weddings, bbqs, holiday parties, birthday parties etc. My dad's best friend lives on the other side of the country and I met him multiple times before I turned 12.

If you met your parents lawyer for the first time today (and you were 18), would he give you a loan next year. Would you be comfortable asking for it? If the loan was for plane tickets for your parents (as some rumors state is the reason) why wouldn't he just give them the money for tickets or pay for them himself? Giving you the money to buy your parents tickets when he has a stronger relationship with them than he does with you makes no sense. 

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Extramedium's picture

I'd let this go- you're putting a lot of energy, emotion and time into this and anything you say on this message board is not going to affect anything in any way.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

We certainly don't know all of the details yet, but my point would be that, just as my parents turned to this person for legal help, there may be a friend of Chase's parents or extended family that Chase did not know personally up to that point that may have been able to help them in this way. Legal advice, money, health: when you need help with any of these situations, you start by looking just beyond your family and people often offer up names to you. It doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. 

You could be completely correct about all of this, but we just don't know yet. 

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outdoorbuckeye's picture

Have you never met someone at a funeral for the first time and they have been introduced as a friend of the family? I know I've had it happen on both sides of my family. Family friend doesnt neccesarily mean mom or dads friend. I'm not sure what actually took place but I'm not gonna make assumptions and look like an ass like you.

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Cooper's picture

He already repaid the loan, so who’s the snitch?

Definitely the biggest whistleblower story from this year, imo.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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Cooper's picture

Good line of thinking, I was leaning towards Alex Grinch.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

I just think it's ironic it comes out before he plays his "home town" team. 

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kiddbuckeye's picture

Chase took a small loan from a close family friend last year to cover basic life expenses. Loan was repaid months ago and we’re working to restore his eligibility. Unfair and outdated NCAA rules punish athletes for making ends meet while enriching everyone else.

^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS 

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BuckeyeGoneNuts's picture

I like how Nevius is putting the optics in terms of "Unfair and outdated NCAA rules punish athletes for making ends meet while enriching everyone else".  In the current climate with college football, my guess is the NCAA is not going to want to push to hard on it, unless there's some really shady crap there. 

Some big questions still out there though.  How big was the loan, was it repaid before someone found out about it or after?  Who is this "family friend", and is he an agent or tied to an agent?  etc etc.

Overall, I'd say this looks way better than I originally thought hearing the news earlier this morning.

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kiddbuckeye's picture

If I was given a loan and paid it back I would NOT mention it to anyone. Not condoning the behavior but curious as to how this got out and why now. 

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ek68's picture

I believe Chase and hope his reinstatement is quick. NCAA is never consistent with punishment. I hope it is just 2 games. Go Bucks!

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cecsix's picture

The NCAA sucks, OSU athletics compliance sucks.  This should be a non-story. So ridiculous that every 4 and 5 star on Alabama's roster is driving around in a brand new Dodge Charger, Clemson is pumping their kids full of PED's, Cam Newton's dad got six figures from Auburn.  Nothing. 

Chase Young gets a relatively small amount of money which he has already repaid, and he has to sit out games.  Completely ridiculous. 

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stxbuck's picture

Is the NCAA stupid-of course. Is tOSU compliance stupid for not going completely rogue-absolutely not. Having more ethics than a Southern bagman-not a bad thing.

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YoungBossBuckeye's picture

I really don't understand what the issue is. If Chase did not accept money/benefits from a university employee (coach, professor, etc) or a booster, or even an agent, but a loan from a family friend which was paid back, what's the problem? I'm sure the university and the compliance department allowed him to tweet this out. The attorney is correct, the NCAA is absolutely a joke of an organization. The program has seminars and meetings in regards to accepting improper benefits. The team knows the rules. If Chase accepted money from someone he knowingly shouldn't have, that's one thing. But a family friend warrants a suspension. Let's have the facts come out and the investigation run its course. I do hope that this doesn't exceed tens of thousands of dollars. If so, we're screwed. Chase paying back the loan is interesting, though. Irregardless, this is beyond bullshit.

Our objective is simple: to make the state of Ohio proud. 

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Dstacify's picture

God, if Chase accepted any money from OSU employees that would be bad. That's death penalty territory right there. I'd rather not venture into those shark-infested waters.

11 Strong.

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Reuben's picture

Me praying that Chase's version of the story checks out. 

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MGOBLUE0205's picture

Let's say for whatever reason he is suspended for the Michigan game. OSU didn't have Bosa last year and it didn't matter. If OSU didn't have Chase Young, obviously it would be a relief to Patterson and the O-line. But Michigan fans shouldn't think it will effect the outcome. Still can't stop Fields and company.

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YoungBossBuckeye's picture

We're trying to win a national championship here.

Our objective is simple: to make the state of Ohio proud. 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

This is the correct answer. Michigan is just a speed bump in the road to the ultimate goal. 

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Bucktown 5.7x28's picture

The fans want to win a national championship, for sure. I’m with you on that. But in this day and age, I’m not naive to think that that is the ultimate goal for a lot of these blue chip athletes. Exposure to the NFL/NBA and creating their “brand” to best market themselves at the next level. If a championship season unfolds from all of their hard work and preparation, that’s a cherry on top. So I’m other words, not all of the players on any given team are dancing to the same music. Just my thoughts on it. 

You can judge a civilization or lack thereof, by the way mankind treats the wildlife Ghandi

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MGOBLUE0205's picture

Oh I know that, Chase Young being out for the playoffs no doubt would hurt. I was strictly speaking about any Michigan fan that thinks this will affect The Game.

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

I’m done worrying too much about this. I will be shocked if he’s not back by Penn State 

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Earthoid.'s picture

Correct approach.  

A gentle reminder to BE NICE. Plays guitar and makes iced tea in the winter.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I think that the court of public opinion, which often takes a cynical eye towards college athletes and money, may actually come to Chase's defense in this case. "College Student Borrows Money" is not exactly a man bites dog story.

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

All the media reporters who have interacted with him and his family rave about what a great person he is. The media is firmly in his corner 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Seems public opinion is firmly on Young's side...

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Seems public opinion is firmly on Young's side...

Yes, that the NCAA is one of the most corrupt, unfair organizations in business. That's why I won't feel good about this story until the NCAA comes out with their decision because you never know who those idiots are thinking. 

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

You realize that the NCAA is made up of a large number of member schools. The Athletic Directors and Presidents of those schools, along with other athletic department staff of those schools, retired members, and the public make up the committees, write the rules, hear violations and determine punishments? That includes Ohio State.

There is no nefarious corrupt business organization called the NCAA, making millions off of athletes. It's a freaking non profit organization in which all money paid in but administrative staff salaries is returned to leagues and member schools each year, and is where stipends for athletes, scholarships, etc. come from.

A Twenty member committee will decide Chase's punishment.  A five member appeals committee will decide if it was correct or not.

Here is the link to the compliance and enforcement committees at the NCAA. The following is a quote from their guideline documents.

Developed with significant input from members, the guidelines were reviewed by membership groups including the Division I Council, the Division I Committee on Infractions, and the Division I Enforcement and Infractions Review Group (a group composed of representatives of the membership to review and recommend improvements to the infractions process) and approved by the Division I Board of Directors.

https://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/division-i-enforcement-charging-guideli... of Directors.

Here is a link to the actual members of the committee on infractions. it has twenty people on it currently, including public members.

https://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1IN...

Infraction appeals committee

https://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1AP...

And for the grande finale, the following is a list of all the committees in just Div.1 alone. 

https://www.ncaa.org/governance/committees?division=d1

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Netbuck's picture

Thanks for posting this.  The NCAA doesn't handle D1 football TV rights/money and unlike basketball does not run or profit from the football playoffs or bowls in D1/FBS.  Otherwise they'd be called the NCAA playoffs.  For D1 football they are just a regulatory body.  

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ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

Just give me 5 min with the guy who dropped the dime on this...hell 3 min. It won't take long

"it matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
GO BUCKS!!!!!

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

Despite having been a student 100 years ago, my memories of struggling just to eat, put gas in a 20 year old car, and pay for my room in a delapidated house off campus is still quite vivid. I can see where suddenly, a twenty year old student finds they can't make all the bill payments that are due at once, put gas in the car, and make a CC payment.  I had to call my parents occasionally for a "loan" into my checking account . Stipends for living expenses for athletes is probably paid monthly or semester, and young adults sometimes learn to budget the hard way, LOL. The NCAA is going to have to have him sit for a game for this. But if they decide to make an example out of him, they will be destroying any case they have about making strict rules on earning money while playing.

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OSU725's picture

Take all this and imagine people coming to you with fists full of cash, when you know many others are taking it as well. Also when you see the coaches pulling up in Mercedes and living in mansions. 

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BuckIDave's picture

As great as Chase is, we will still have a very good defense without him. If Justin Fields is gone, so are all the hopes of a B10 title and a national championship.

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OSUFlash's picture

I’m more concerned about this season’s games played so far than Chase Young. Then getting Chase back is next on the docket. 
I’m sure Tressel and Meyer will be the scapegoats again. 

osuflash

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Dmac3212's picture
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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

That certainly muddies the waters.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I do not like agent involvement 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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youra6's picture

As long as the amount was small and Chase has proof of repayment, I dont think it matters much. Hell Clinton Dix got a 500 dollar loan from his own strength coach. I'm hoping for a 2 game suspension max. 

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TXNut2488's picture

I’m hearing the family friend is NOT an agent....boom I can be a national media member. Dude got that from some blogger on Barstool

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TXNut2488's picture

Anyone know anything about this Jack McGuire dude who supposedly is the source of it being an agent?

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Dmac3212's picture

He is a no name barstool blogger. I highly doubt he is the source. He just wants credit because he tweeted about an agent this morning. 

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TXNut2488's picture

Good to know, I’ve never heard of him

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youra6's picture

Damn, I am not going to productive at work today. 

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O H Y O's picture

Yeah, the already battered and rusty Ohio economy will suffer even more today.

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Sheridanclan11's picture

Most already know the ending to this story. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Biddle on the Bucknuts radio podcast said he feels better now then he did earlier this morning. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Ohio1111's picture

Your kidding yourself if you don’t think his college career is over. Him not in the line up likely means we lose 2 of the last 4 games both being to the only actual decent teams on the schedule this year. We probably would have struggled to beat Wisconsin as well without him.. he makes that much of a difference. Think how bad the defense was last year, and get ready cause that’s coming back quickly. 

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CB's picture

100%. Football has and always will be a one man sport.  

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DCBuckeye33's picture

this made me laugh pretty good. love a good simple sarcastic comment to a dummy 

GO BUCKS

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johnblairgobucks's picture

After everything you just posted is proven to he incorrect, what will you say?

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keith7456's picture

Yeah Chase young was the only thing making us a better team than Penn State or TTUN. The #1 team in the nation was a one man show all year.. /s

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

One season not filled with player or coaching drama would be nice, just one fucking season please.

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Reuben's picture

I blame it on Colin's "Easy Mode" article. The guy jinxed us. 

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nutabuckas's picture

Wish this was over already. Refreshing Twitter and 11w every 30 seconds 

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bwherbert's picture

This makes me hate agents so much....just leave the damn kids alone. Chase should know better but it's hard when you're young, gullible, and broke. 

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Day_Man's picture

from the article: 

A new bombshell has emerged in the situation regarding Ohio State defensive end Chase Young. According to Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports, by Young tweeting he accepted a loan from "family friend", Young made it a layered compliance issue. Young will have to prove there was a pre-existing relationship with that person that had nothing to do with athletics. If not, vacation of wins could be on table.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

I’m shocked Dennis Dodd would overreact to something like this

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keith7456's picture

I thought it was well known that Dennis Dodd has no clue what he's talking about at any point in time

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Dodd is a troll. I am pretty sure OSU green lighted the tweet and prolly constructed it. They put the pre existing relationship in there for a reason. I am pretty sure OSU knew they were going to have to prove that to begin with. 

Not a bombshell at all. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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bd2999's picture

I saw that but it is not true. I mean I do not know 100% either but I doubt it changes anything. If he was making the same case to OSU and NCAA and it is true it impacts nothing at all.

The only way that it would lead to removing wins would be if OSU knew for a while and did nothing. Sounds like they reported as soon as they became aware. The NCAA does not punish like that, even for gifts. He changed his tune in a few other tweets. At least softening it some.

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Day_Man's picture

good to hear

Yeah, I should have thought it through more before posting a "report" that sourced a Dodd speculative tweet. I was already on edge this morning from work, and now all of this. My apologies, fellas

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smith5568's picture

In my opinion, the Dodd tweet is ridiculous and he is a moron. Why on earth would Chase Young (who is being represented by an attorney with  experience as an NCAA investigator) tweet something that would make this more layered than it already was. I would be shocked if everything Young tweeted was not already known by OSU and the NCAA and that he had provided the necessary documentation already. Chase's tweet didn't "make it a layered compliance issue" - the layers already existed Dennis, Chase simply notified the public of the issue that was already being analyzed. 

Dennis Dodd is an idiot. Statements like his are what make me want to get a twitter just so I can shove his face in his shit statement, but it also keeps me away because I fear if I do join, I may stroke out. 

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Wargor's picture

When you march off to do battle with the idiots on twitter, you see yourself as Richard the Lionheart, off to do righteous battle for the true faith.  

When you are in the battle, you rapidly start to see yourself as Colonel Travis, leading a doomed mission that will ultimately gain success for the greater cause, with your name immortalized in the annals of history.

From an outside perspective you look like Custer.

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DCBuckeye33's picture

that's going off one Dodd tweet that was itself wild speculation. OSU sounds to be confident. I think the worst case is young is out for the year. Dont see wins being vacated based on this 'report'

GO BUCKS

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TXNut2488's picture

Yeah sorry this is a non story to me, everyone already knew it depends on who the family friend is...Dodd just doing his usual BS

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Completely Stupid take by Dodd. Do we think OSU would have allowed Chase to tweet what he did without knowing the situation?

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BuckeyeGrove's picture

Uh, what? No way. If something comes out about OSU covering stuff up, that could happen, but otherwise no.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Kyle Lamb changes his tune:

Update:

1) I must correct myself on an earlier comment I made regarding the value threshold. The rule has changed in recent years. Monetary value of $1,000-10,000 is not "sit a season, lose a season." It is suggested 1/3 of season (4 games for football)

2) Whether its' a loan or gift, restitution/repayment would need made so that part doesn't make much of a difference

3) If it is a loan from an agent, you must demonstrate it is NOT an implied contract or promise of a future relationship in order to maintain eligibility

Ohio State is trying to massage the PR of what really happened. Their case will rest on being able to demonstrate repayment was made (or else it would require restitution anyhow) and that it was not an agent expecting a client relationship.

That said, Ohio State is really hopeful/optimistic. They think, or at least hope, they can get a one game or two game and reinstate.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Wargor's picture

Shouldn't be for more than a loan from a coach...

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hodge's picture

"Ohio State is trying to massage the PR of what really happened. Their case will rest on being able to demonstrate repayment was made (or else it would require restitution anyhow) and that it was not an agent expecting a client relationship."

This is a pretty notable thing. IMHO, ever since Tatgate, OSU Compliance has been VERY CONSERVATIVE. The fact that Chase even sent out a "statement" speaks volumes to OSU's level of confidence in this matter. Moreover, the fact that they're actively trying to present this in the best light possible instead of "letting the chips fall as they may" is worth paying attention to.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

This is a VERY good and interesting point. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I do not trust Smith or compliance to handle this well. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

No doubt they don't deserve our trust, HOWEVER, the tweet Chase sent out was HIGHLY CALCULATED imo....

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hodge's picture

That's fair. OSU compliance has never really acted in players' best interests -- but that's essentially by design. Ever since Tatgate, their job has been to protect the university at all costs, players be damned. That's why I think it's so notable that Chase sent out a statement at all. No way in Hell OSU didn't vet that in advance, and no way in Hell they put that out there if they thought there was a fraction of a chance it was going to be debunked.

Just sayin'. For a notoriously conservative Compliance department, the fact that Chase is even telling his side of the story is tacit agreement with where he's coming from. Not saying it necessarily means he's gonna suit up next week for Rutgers, but they obviously think this is is more of a molehill than a mountain.

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Sanitarian2's picture

Perhaps they could rehire Urban and throw him under another bus?

Sani

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buckeyenut74's picture

Hopefully I DON’T have to sit and watch Drake bumble through another press conference like he did with Meyer. 

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All Ok Jumpmaster's picture

who the fuck is Kyle Lamb?

Stay Frosty

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Wannabe OSU Rivals insider who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Good article laying everything out:

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RBloodworth's picture

I'm fully expecting the worst at this point:

Young is suspended for the rest of the season, and OSU has to vacate all wins from the Rose Bowl until Wisconsin.  These kinds of things never seem to end any other way with this program.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

You realize that this would be precedence shattering, yes? 

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MaxMermelstein's picture

Just stfu, loser.  This board would be so much better without your bullshit speculation all the time. The next time you get something right will be your first time.

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Dstacify's picture

There would be absolutely no reason for OSU to continue playing this season if they vacated all the wins from this year (I'm pretty sure a 4-0 record doesn't get them into the CFP so what's the point, the NCAA would have a huge mess on their hands if they went that route). Hell, if the NCAA does go that direction the rest of the team should refuse to play out the remaining games on the schedule in protest (which would hurt the NCAA's brand more than anything). That's why that scenario won't happen.

11 Strong.

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GareBear's picture

Sorry, but a loan for a college student? Seriously? 
 

if we penalize all students who have taken loans, then lock me up too.

Michigan sucks

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

Exactly. What’s wild is if this loan was a student loan from Fifth Third Bank—no issue

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GareBear's picture

To be honest, best case scenario would be fifth third... worst case would be an agent.

but then again, why now? 

Michigan sucks

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bwherbert's picture

So, if I'm getting this correct, Young accepted a (relatively) small amount of money from an agent last year. It's unknown exactly what the money was for but one can assume several things:

- An agent giving a kid money is not a gift of charity. This guy was hoping to sign CY when he went pro. As petty as it is, this is an NCAA violation and since it's at OSU this story will be amplified tenfold. 

- There will be punishment. Whatever the punishment is, it will probably be worse then OSU deserves (because it's OSU), but not as bad as idiots like Dodd are speculating.

- The safest assumption is that CY's OSU career is over. I just hope OSU doesn't get hit with a postseason ban. I think that would be going way too far.

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keith7456's picture

From what we know so far a post season ban and vacating wins would be a massive over step by the NCAA and an absolute joke.

Even a what would turn out to be 4-7 game suspension(counting possible Big Ten Champ game and playoffs) for Young seems like a massive overreach. 

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OSU725's picture

Punishment being worse than they deserve may not be accurate in this situation. With the NCAA battling public perception with use of likeness, pay to play, taking advantage of student athletes it is possible this may work as an advantage in this situation. Would look bad If the NCAA suspended possibly the best player in college football for the rest of the season for taking a small amount of money to get his family to a bowl game (if what we are hearing is accurate), especially if the person is a family friend. 
 

Looking around seems that most people (OSU and non OSU fans) are in agreement the NCAA is ridiculous. 

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GareBear's picture

Borrowed money from someone before freshman year to get his family to a bowl game? I think we’re missing details here 

Michigan sucks

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keith7456's picture

No. Met the person before freshman year. Borrowed money Summer 2018. Repaid money in time since then.

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Dodd's analysis isn't necessarily wrong, it's just one of many things the NCAA can go to as punishment. 

Ohio State has a ton of mitigating factors in this circumstance. 1-2 games is reasonable and in-line with precedent as long as there isn't anything else detrimental that we haven't heard. 

A, B, D definitely apply based on the current set of facts. Assuming Ohio State's compliance department doesn't have their heads up their own asses, C, E, and F would hopefully apply too. 

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keith7456's picture

After reading that and having the information we have so far, it sounds like this situation falls into ALL of the mitigating factors.

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d5k's picture

Unfortunately H does not apply unless 7 years is long enough for tatgate to no longer count.

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bd2999's picture

I think he was irresponsible with going to the worst possible case though. Just saying a range of punishments would cover it and not be as sensational.

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Agreed. Right but irresponsible. NCAA has a full menu of potential punishments for all situations. From a single game penalty to the death penalty.

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_Patches's picture

https://twitter.com/imayormaynot/status/1191553108796727296?s=21

Some guy was asking about it three days ago. So the ball has likely been moving on this for a few days already. Hopefully the NCAA has at least started something to finalize whatever the decision is.

If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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keith7456's picture

Bruce Feldman is much more reputable than Dennis Dodd so there is that....

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Feldman does not have hidden agendas toward schools like Dodd, Hayes, McDouchebag, etc. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Brandon26841's picture

So basically the bottom line is they've pretty much got to verify 2 things

1. This "family friend" wasn't an agent or booster
2. The "loan" was paid back in full (and when was it paid back?)

If those two things check out then I doubt he'll get more than 1-2 games, but both of those things aren't exactly simple to "confirm" and if either one can't be totally validated... well, I'd say he's probably played his last snap as a Buckeye. We're just going to have to wait it out. But I think this situation is going to be a bit more complicated than people think. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Paid back in full over the summer. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

Bruce Feldman says source close to the family says it’s not an agent or booster

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matt.green14's picture

Feldman is sating the "family friend" was not an agent or booster. Big if true.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Why again is he suspended? For taking and paying back a loan from someone he knew before OSU that is not a booster or agent? Is this OSU being overly anal? 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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DowntownBuck's picture

The school has to do this to make sure all is good and the NCAA gives them the ok. You can’t take a chance and play him, then the NCAA finds something out. We would then forfeit the Maryland game and season is over

Those who stir the shit pot should have to lick the spoon.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

The incident happened AFTER he signed his NLOI.  Therefore he already fell under NCAA guidelines.  The fact the loan happened before he started at tOSU is irrelevant.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Kirk Barton is insinuating Chase's OSU career is over.....ugh, hope he's wrong.

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LouBuck35's picture

Kirk Barton is a meat castle and that's about it.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Reuben's picture

"Meat castle"... I almost spit out my coffee when I read that. 

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keith7456's picture

LOL, Kirk Barton....was he drunk beating up a cop while drunk when he said it.

I wouldn't really put much weight on anything he says.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Like I said, I hope he's wrong and I personally don't like the guy either....just reporting what he's saying. He is a former player so probably has some info....

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Rgeiger24's picture

I would be stunned if he knew anything that we didn't based on his tweets today. We need to be better investigators. Basically every Ohio State reporter says that the real insiders have been really tight lipped and that's why it took a while for anyone reputable to report the story. Even then, the details of the story as a whole have varied significantly, even within people with real sources. No one actually knows right now or people would be dying to report it. Hell, people are reporting it without sources, nevermind with them.

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cecsix's picture

I blocked that dumbass a while ago on Twitter. He's an embarrassment to OSU.  

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Yeah, this is Kirk Barton just doing an "I'm relevant!" move. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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keith7456's picture

I'm not sure if 11Ws love for Joel Klatt could possibly grow any more.

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LouBuck35's picture

We don't deserve Joel Klatt in our lives.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Wargor's picture

Sounds great, but...

If this is truly a family friend and not an agent, booster, etc., how does this come out?  

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DCBuckeye33's picture

I am curious what his source on this is. If its the same one as feldman then it is someone close to chase. Of course a family member will be saying this and wanting this info out there. Hope klatt is right!

GO BUCKS

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Ok, so a Kentucky RB took over $1,600 from an AGENT, paid it back, and got.....a ONE game suspension. 

But Chase Young took money from someone who was a previous friend and NOT an agent, paid it back...and might get a WORSE punishment?!?!?!

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Wargor's picture

If everything we're seeing is true, I'm with you on this.  Hell, if that much from an agent is one game, I think you should put half a game on the table for Chase.  

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bd2999's picture

Should probably be about the same, I would think. Pending on the size of the loan.

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matt.green14's picture

Klatt and Feldman now saying the same thing. I think he'll be back next week or Penn State week.

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OSU725's picture

Is it just me, I want to see an angry Chase Young on Penn State 

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Rutgers is demanding a 2 game suspension.  Can you imagine the carnage if an angry Chase Young faces Rutgers?

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bucksfan4life's picture

I'm thinking it's gonna be a one game suspension. Relax guys. Sky's not falling.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I am not sure why he is even suspended. This is getting stupid. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

Coaches and administration being conservative, sacrificing his Heisman shot to make sure we stay qualified for the playoffs. I'm sure he would want the same.  Should be a half game at most based on what we know now but theres no point playing him tomorrow.

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Worthington Buck's picture

Suspended for 1-2 games that were really just landmine injury games and the coaches can bang home "everyone wants to see you fail" despite the #1 ranking.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

When The Predator gets released against Penn State...

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

OSU's compliance is just a joke. I really believe they have made this into something much bigger than it really needs to be. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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d5k's picture

I also think they made Chase make a public statement admitting guilt.  On the surface while it sounds like a PR statement for Chase, it is really a PR statement for OSU.

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Buckeye06's picture

Interesting that Birm put this out there this morning and then got testy with someone questioning how he knew it was an agent.  He said obviously I know it's an agent because I wouldn't have put it there otherwise

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matt.green14's picture

I like Birm and all but he seems very arrogant. Always thinks he's right about every situation and no one can tell him otherwise. Not the first time he's acted like this.

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LouBuck35's picture

Birm is clearly dialed in. Is he more dialed in than Bruce Feldman though? That will lead you to who you should trust more. I dont feel like a national reporter like Feldman would put that out there only to have egg on his face later.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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DCBuckeye33's picture

i still think its important to note feldman listed his source as someone close to chase. that person has bias and could be misleading feldman. im not saying they are, and im not saying feldman would put it out there without being reasonably sure, but he has an out to say 'well thats what the family told me'

GO BUCKS

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LoMey03's picture

Joel Klatt just tweeted that  '' the loan was NOT from an agent, was paid back before the situation became public, was truthful from the start, and with recent precedent he would expect somewhere between 1-2 game suspension, fact that it was not agent and loan was paid back will be key''.. So i definitely think he will be back by Rutgers. He was out all week at practice, so that means that the investigation had to come up way before it was publicized..

Logan Meyer

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Toilrt Paper's picture

The loan was from a family friend, that he didn't know was a family friend, until he was 18 and off to play football at Ohio State. 

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d5k's picture

From an NCAA perspective it shouldn't really matter unless the person is a booster or connected to OSU and providing "impermissible benefits".  Classifying the person as a friend or agent is semantics really.  Whether the person providing the loan was looking out for Chase's best interest isn't really relevant to Chase's eligibility under NCAA's rules.  I am not a lawyer and even if I was I wouldn't go near NCAA bullshit.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

The NCAA rules are so twisted and byzantian that you never know.  I remember from years ago when my daughter got an athletic scholarship that establishing a family tie prior to her becoming a prospect was the basic line in the sand.  Anything prior to that foggy date was the important info. I don't know how that applies to this situation, or if the regulations have changed.  But its the first thing I thought of this morning.

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TLeeUpInThisJ's picture

I don’t understand this business with loans. Credit cards are plentiful in the US – I don’t understand the need for loans when credit is abundant even for people with terrible FICO scores. If it is an “interest free” loan, that would likely be an impermissible benefit, no? Maybe this is why a loan would be accepted, to avoid interest? If it is an interest free loan, I guess I can understand a 1 game suspension because you’re getting something the free market would not otherwise provide but 1 game and that is it.

Another topic but some seem to throw stones at our rivals and blame them for situations like this, but agents can be a SLEAZY, SLEAZY bunch and would love to add Chase Young as a client b/c it’d likely earn them >$1 million in advisory fees. Is it unreasonable to believe there’d be unsavory behavior from an agent chasing dollars as the root of this situation? Urban Meyer was on TV a couple days after the Wisconsin win and said this is the time of year you have to deal with agents and managing these complications. Agents are in a very competitive business and will do many things to give them an advantage. Use your imagination and I will leave it at that.

We’re probably never going to know the true details of this so just speculation on my part. I think the truth here, however, is the victim in all of this is Chase Young. Hoping for a short suspension.

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d5k's picture

If you have zero credit history it is hard to get a credit card with more than a $500 limit.  Our financial system is broken but that is another matter.  Clearly he has likely future income to use as collateral for a loan but that makes the sleazelords at the NCAA uncomfortable.

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2morrow's picture

Actually - the free market provides interest free loans constantly. No interest if paid by X. I see it on cars, electronics, furniture, all the time. In fact, isn't an American Express card like an interest free loan?

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Toilrt Paper's picture

$500 should cover "basic life expenses" for quite a while. 

His parents couldn't afford $100 a month for "basic life expenses'? 

Where do other players get money for "basic life expenses'? 

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Have you ever lived paycheck to paycheck?

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Rent even spitting it is going to Run you at least $500 a month minimum 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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MileHighBUCKEYE85's picture

This is not about other players, this is about one individuals story.  What if his parents could not afford to send him $100?  What then?  Should he get a job?  Pretty sure he is a little busy with the expectations of a football player at TOSU.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

You must be pretty frugal because $500 wouldn't last me 2 weeks. 

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Serral's picture

I sincerely hope you're still in high school or something because your view of money and expenses is delusional. $500 doesn't even get you rent at the crappiest studio apartments in Columbus, and then you have gas/transportation, phone bill, car insurance, food, and the endless other bills that come up. 

I like how you act as if $500 is a lot of money and then do a heel turn and say that any parents should have no problem sending their kid $100 a month like it's nothing. Sure, to many parents that probably is nothing, but for many others that wouldn't be possible. You don't know the background of his parents. My parents would have laughed in my face if I asked for a monthly stipend from them. I worked part time instead, but the difference is that college athletes really can't do that due to NCAA rules and also lack of time since they're basically practicing full time. This is literally the whole reason that athletes are fighting to be allowed to at least profit off of their own names.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

Let me say, thank GOD Fox is doing the game tomorrow. If ESPN was doing it, they would have the country convinced by the end of the game that Chase Young should be in jail 

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buckybeaver's picture

I agree and we won't have a game on ESPN til the bowl/playoff game.  Highly doubt Rutgers is on anything but FS1 or BTN.  The two big ones after that and hopefully a B1G title game as well will all be on Fox.  

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Buck It's picture

I'm starting to think that maybe someone had to spot him some bills to get his braids tightened up before the Rose Bowl. A Predator can't be flying to Cali looking like shit before a big game.

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Worthington Buck's picture

The statement "A family friend I've known since the summer before my freshman year" doesn't mean we met this family friend the summer before I was a freshman.  That same statement could mean he's known the person since he was 2 years old.  I think some are getting hung up on potentially ambiguous phrasing.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

It also shouldn't matter who it was to be honest. We already KNOW a Kentucky RB took over $1,600 from an AGENT, and had a total suspension of....1 game.

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Wargor's picture

First, I think this thing isn't a big deal, so don't read me wrong, but:

General consensus is that this was a university / lawyer crafted statement.  As such, they put the best spin on it they could.  If it was a loan from someone he'd (or the family) had known since he was 2, they would have said so.  Beyond that, I don't think people talk the way you are suggesting.  I don't tell people I've been married to my wife since 2005, because even though it is technically true, we got married in 1999, and neither her or whoever I am talking to is going to appreciate the technical distinction.  

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Cincinnatibuck's picture

I was a D1 athlete at the University of Dayton.  My brother-in-law later played football for Dayton and lived with another football player.  I could buy my brother-in-law dinner but not his roommate.

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OSU725's picture

But if you accidentally picked up an extra 4 for 4 and happen to forget it on the table, is that a violation??? 

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YoungBossBuckeye's picture

It's good that the school self-reported and deciding to get ahead of this, and not wait for the NCAA goons look into it. We did the right thing. Chase did the right thing by making it public for transparency. The question is, who was the person that he claimed to be a family friend and how much was the loan? It couldn't have been that much if it was already repaid in full. I anticipate a 2 game suspension. By getting ahead of it, and being upfront, I don't believe that NCAA will have the pretext to suspend him for the rest of the season.

Our objective is simple: to make the state of Ohio proud. 

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Ohiofoosball's picture

The real question is, why does it even matter WHO it was?

Again, I repeat, AGAIN....a Kentucky RB took over $1,600 from an AGENT.

FROM. AN. AGENT.

He was suspended....wait for it....1 game. 

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saintstephen11's picture

Key point is ... who suspended him one game? Kentucky or the NCAA?

If I am reading this correctly, OSU has suspended Chase ... not the NCAA.  OSU could suspend him longer than Kentucky did.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Kentucky suspended him and the NCAA agreed with it. It was 1 total game. For taking money from an AGENT.

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ckennard22's picture

Plot twist: Harbaugh sent Mattison to dig up dirt and bring down OSU so he finally might have a shot. 

If you take my statement literally, you're not worth the breath it takes to call you a moron. 

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All Ok Jumpmaster's picture

**crosspost**

Anybody can be a “leader” until you start taking enemy fire…

This is obviously not combat, nor would I ever equate it to such, but there are some correlations.

What happens under fire is rarely, if ever, what is planned. You rely on your training, your discipline, your communication, and your leadership to make the best decisions and guide the element through the situation.

Chase Young is an unbelievable talent, leader and is beloved by the team.  With that said, he is out, period, adjust, move out, draw fucking fire.

This situation will test everyone, but it is on the Coaching Staff and the Captains to step up here

This is a delicate situation that will take some precision and art. You need to remind the team... 

1. Do not listen to outside noise, period, the only thing that matters is what is said inside that locker room, and by those who are wearing Scarlett and gray, literally, fuck everyone else.

2. Chase is our teammate and our brother, no matter what the details are here, we support him, and we play for him.

3. With that said, no team is one man. Period. This team has not dominated in complete fashion solely because of one player. He is important and we love him, but he does not define the team.  A team is a singular unit made up of individuals each doing a specific and important job.  It does not live and die by one person. We close the gap, we adjust our schemes as needed around the best players we have available to us.  It has been a luxury thus far to have every player be healthy, we could have just as easily lost Chase to an injury, the circumstances surrounding his absence are irrelevant.

4. Everybody steps up.  Just because this is Maryland and not PSU or Michigan doesn't mean you take your foot off the gas. Every person from every position plays like its the last time you put on the fucking pads...all the way down to 3rd string punt team gunner.  You are all fucking ready.  Also, everyone else in every other position, we can no longer rely on Chase to anchor the defense.  Backup D ends better be ready for break out games, and all other positions are ready to pull more weight than you have when he has been in the game.

Ignore PSU talk, Ignore Michigan Talk, Ignore Chase Young speculation, and definitely ignore anything to do with CFP and the committee / rankings.  We need to worry about 1-0 against Maryland. Period.

Let us also not forget the collective sports world said our 2014 season was over before it began when Braxton got hurt in practice because “our quarterback depth was so poor.”( he was a Heisman favorite going into the season) Then we got written off again after the VT loss….yeah I know everyone knows the story, the point, even if he never dons the Scarlett and Gray again, that doesn’t mean anything.

Last but not least, fuck Michigan, go bucks.

Stay Frosty

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Northbrook's picture

I've been reading a few message forums on this topic today. SMH

I think I'm getting too old for this shit. I worry we are already in an Idiocracy.

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Rascall's picture

I'm as big a Chase and OSU football fan as anyone on here but this is so annoying to me that he would not at least inquire with University or OSU peers about this decision beforehand.
It doesn't matter if it is $100 or $10,000 you cannot jeopardise yourself and the rest of the program/university in this way.
Programs, coaches and players are all under a microscope. These guys are young men not children. It boggles my mind.
Let's hope it's a minor infraction if anything at all.

From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I shall not put.

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Ohiofoosball's picture

Joel klatt has been in the woody all day and likely talked with numerous Osu people from coaches to compliance people.

him coming out and saying 1-2 games carries a lot more weight than other predictions, because of his sources.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Dispatch saying that the loan was indeed to help his family get to the rose Bowl. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Buckeyes17's picture

Is this good?

"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I think in the public arena it is. If the NCAA rules him out for good the NCAA looks even more like heartless inept bastards. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Buckeyes17's picture

So basically..

This can help because it seems relatively harmless and he could get to come back soon

OR

The NCAA suspends him permanently and they look like complete assholes doing so?

"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

I have just one question:  How did this come out now?  The timing could not be more curious.  It comes out the Friday after having two weeks off.  You've got to be shitting me.  Four games left, Heisman front-runner, potential first pick, gets exposed NOW for taking money?  What the..?

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

3M had good idea in another thread.  They’ve known about it since the day after Wisky, and have worked to clear him in the last 2 weeks but were unable to in time for the game so had to suspend him. 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Thanks for the post.  Interesting.

You wonder if CY sensed or knew it was coming out, maybe even before the Wisconsin game -knowing that might be his last game.  
 

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

You might wonder that.  I don't, because there's nothing to lead you to that conclusion other than your own biases.

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FeedZeke420's picture

This whole thing is bullshit. 1 game suspension better be the max. If that rat Jim harbaugh has anything to do with this we better score 100 fucking points on his bitch ass followed by Chase choke slamming him at the 50 yard line. This stupid rule is going to cost him the heisman, he’s played his ass off all season this is a real shame to see. Even if you are not a buckeye, to not see this kid finish out his last season would be a tragedy. Talent like this doesn’t come around all the time. IMO, i obviously don’t know Chase but he seems to love football and his teammates and seems to be a good kid. Free #2. I was really looking forward to watching him live this week, it’s a bummer.

Go Bucks!

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