If he does I believe it will be for usc
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Agree. FSU is a step down from PSU.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
I also think FSU is a step down from PSU, but I also don't think Mike Bohn was hired to get anyone but UFM. Anyone besides UFM and the fan base will hate Bohn from day 1 and he'll basically be a dead man walking. Also USC wants NCs no guarantee JF can provide that.
Also, I think FSU would have at least had a low-outside-shot at UFM if it wasn't for their AD's stupid comments which have already come back to bite him... now if his boosters want UFM, the AD will need to be fired, not smart since you are already the one who hired Taggart.
Buckshots... in case you have amnesia.
I also don't think Mike Bohn was hired to get anyone but UFM
Reports: Urban Meyer is not expected to be targeted by USC in the Trojans' potential coaching search.https://t.co/eQSTGIOPMu pic.twitter.com/TFNOWrftTU
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We'll see. I thought Helton was going to do well enough to get another year, and that would line up nicely with Urban taking 2 years off. Doesn't look like it'll play out that way, though.
that 247 report is literally based on a report which is based on a report which is based on an opinion piece and also contradicts everything else from "sources". Not a coincidence sources all say UFM and then they hire an AD from Ohio that he knows.
Their president wants a hire with no baggage- does not matter if that baggage is real or not. She inherited the stuff at Carolina now the stuff at USC. Hiring the UC AD is getting her someone respected but also not a hot hire who might challenge her authority, especially with hirings and boosters. I think USC fans are going to be disappointed with their hire, assuming they actually fire Helton.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
In what alternate universe is FSU a step down from PSU? FSU has a ceiling PSU simply cannot compete with. They won a national title 6 years ago.. Franklin could build a beast in that terrible conference with the geographic recruiting advantage they have in 3 years. He would probably pull a top 5 class every year.
Last year I would have agreed with you, but man, FSU is such a dumpster fire. With Clemson now ascending juggernaut status, I just don't see FSU having that same potential ceiling.
Yeah but think about it, Clemson is the only other program in that conference with a legitmate pulse. Yes, Franklin would probably take a pounding from them the first couple years, but it wouldn't be any different than what happend in his first couple years at Penn State. The potential at FSU is still way higher than it is at Penn State. I mean right now Franklin is in arguably the hardest division in college football and the national title ceiling just isn't there. It would take 3 or 4 recruiting classes but the potential is there at FSU. I think he's frustrated by the ceiling at Penn State, and I actually believe he wants to win national titles.
From what I have read, Florida State has let its infrastructure crumble terribly. That is why Jimbo bolted. FSU could be years from competing for championships and that is only if the school decides to invest a lot of money into the football program’s facilities that, apparently, it doesn’t have at this time. Calling it a dumpster fire is a disservice to dumpster fires everywhere.
Jimbo left them high and dry...that and his wife sleeping with a bunch of younger guys
Well to be fair, there were alot of reasons Jimbo left.. I read his wife was cheating on him and he was trying to get out of there. They won a national title and recruited high level 4 and 5 star recruits even with those facilities.. I know it would take a few years, but lets not act like this thing isn't repairable with a good coach and great players.. and great players you can get at FSU.. there is no question about that. Im not trying to prop them up, i just think FSU is a better job with a higher ceiling than PSU.
. I know it would take a few years,
Here in lies the problem. They have proved that the Seminoles will be circling the wagon if they don't have immediate results. They're a restless bunch.
Taggart could probably build some nice facilities now
FSU has shit facilities by comparison.
The lord of brevity.
Guys.. they had these same shitty facilities 6 years ago when they won a national title. Im just saying.. i think Franklin would be tempted.
I get it. I’d rather live in Florida too.
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There was a good article on MSN today about how much of a s*** show FSU is right now, definitely worth a read. Short answer: their President is gone after this year (retirement), their AD is someone no one wanted there (but they couldn't do better), and their athletic funds are in a bad, bad place, even worse now as they had to pay Taggart $20m to leave. Throw in the fact that they're going to want you to win immediately (and not an 8-4, rebuilding type of winning) despite that not being realistic, and any proven coach is not going to want to go there, they want stability and to know that whoever the next President and AD are in a year aren't going to want them out to hire their own guy. The article explained it perfectly IMO, in that FSU is the kind of place that has a shine on the outside, but that is not evergreen on the inside the way a big name coach would want it to be. Franklin would have much more stability and comfort at PSU. USC on the other hand, might be tempting even though they've just gone through their own turnover.
FSU has played for (and won) national championships in the last 20 years.
Penn State? Their window closed in the 90's and it's not opening back up. How they are doing right now is as good as they're ever going to be from now on. And they aren't good enough to win a national title.
FSU is located in one of the richest recruiting areas in the country. I mean, we've lost more 5 stars to them than they've lost to us even in recent years. I'm not sure how you'd arrive at the conclusion that as a program, PSU is better than FSU. Yes, PSU is currently in better shape, but FSU's ceiling is miles above PSU's.
Lol. This article is awful. They didn’t list any evidence for why USC is going after Franklin. Simply a suggestion. Their evidence for why USC isn’t going after Meyer is even weaker. Not worth the read. I wish I could take back my click.
I think the question is, is there anyone on his staff they would elevate. Or would they go outside hire? Because if he leaves that recruiting class will implode.
If people are thinking Joe Moorhead would take the Rutgers job, I could see PSU going after him if Franklin leaves
Franklin to USC. David Klaussen (Wake Forest coach) to FSU, Matt Rhule probably to PSU
Successful people do what they have to, whether they feel like it or not
About 40 will have to say no before Klaussen gets a call. He's a good coach but boosters didnt drop 20 mil to get him
Klaussen has turned Wake Forest around. He is a far superior coach to eleven warriors fan favorite Matt Campbell.
I mean who else could they get? Swinney no, Saban no, Urban no. Klaussen is a really good coach and I would not want ttun to find out that he is better then Harbaugh
I dont disagree at all. But FSU is going to want a flashy name after the mess they have gotten themselves in. James Franklin would be the top target and not as unrealistic as people think. After that Matt Campbell, PJ Fleck, Brent Venables, and Mike Norvell are probably the short list.
FSU is a school that should be able to win titles. The thing about Clawson is he would return them to being very good and he would fix the culture. I don't know if he would be good enough to win a title. Clawson is 52, a smart plan would be to let him come in and fix everything and then in 5-7 years start thinking about getting the national title coach with money and the roster are in a better place.
Theyre so bad right now, though. It's a 3 year project. I think the Wake Forest guy would be a decent hire.
That 20 mil wasn't to get anyone, it was used to get rid of someone.
Rhule isn't going any where. He just got a massive contract extension through 2027 with a reported buyout as high as anyone in the nation.
He's going to NFL if anywhere. Think the buyout doesn't apply for NFL jobs.
Matt Rhule is going to be in the NFL very soon.
Fickell to USC, Franklin to UC, Meyer to PSU
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You just made my head explode with that.
Lane to ND.
Why would Franklin willingly downgrade himself lol? I like UC and all but that job is a step down from PSU.
Not nearly as big a step down as it is from the broadcast booth to Happy Valley
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Somebody is just having fun with that post
Fatpants to Lof10.
They are good schools just not elite
PSU fans and players will eventually get tired of him using the term elite and how PSU is not elite.
He wants Elite, then he needs to go to USC.
USC is the most elite actually.
Would either job be an upgrade for Franklin? He has got a good thing going up there. Living in SoCal would be pretty nice compared to Happy Valley, but other than that, I'm not so sure it's a better gig.
One of James Franklin's best recruiting pitches has been they can help him be the first black coach to win a national championship. If we are thinking of that as the sole reason to make this decision I think FSU>USC>PSU. Obviously there is so much more to think about but being the best recruiting head coach in the south as Saban retires is a recipe for success.
One of James Franklin's best recruiting pitches has been they can help him be the first black coach to win a national championship.
James Franklin is black?
first thing thought to. guy looks white to me
Black father and white mother, I believe. One from Pittsburgh and the other from England. Nice story a few years ago on his family and upbringing.
Hollywood Harbaugh would be perfect for USC. He switched from his Woody Hayes glasses to those Jack Nicholson shades this year to show how he’d fit in, and it gets him back to his beloved West Coast.
If Franklin did go to USC, would Luke get a look at PSU?
Florida State needs order and discipline. Jim Tressel shocks the world and has Ellen knit him a Seminole sweater vest.
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
Or he knits it himself.
Nope he ain't leaving Penn State.
I could see Frames at USC. He never really struck me as a Big 10 guy.
Well Ill be damned. Just googled Franklin. Did not know he was born and raised in Pennsylvania.
I think Mike Norvell from Memphis would be a good hire for either of those programs. USC is going to do everything they can to go get Urban, we'll see if he's ready to jump back in or if he wants to wait a couple more years.
What ever happened to Urban at risk with his life it he ever coached again and the list to his kids on and on. Why didn't he just stay here if he wants to coach. If he takes a job it will be hard for me to believe his issues here and at Florida when he took a year off.
Well i'll always have love for Urban and what he did to boost Ohio State in the modern era of football. The foundation of the program is exceptional and he gave us Ryan Day which is another home run. Here's the reality though, the man is still only 55 years old and he's done this before.. He may sit out a year or two, but the man is 100% coming back to coach at some point. If he goes to USC it wont suprise me at all. Urban can do whatever he wants imo.
Urban is done coaching. When Gene Smith retires the AD position is Urbans if he wants it
I agree, dk. And don't think that Shelley won't have something to say about it as well. He's financially secure, still working with tOSU at a cushy gig, and having fun doing the TV analyst thing. All while spending quality time with the fam. From a health standpoint, it's not worth it to jump back in the trenches with these dumpster fires to try to rebuild -- it would take more time and effort than he would have to give. I truly believe all these rumors about Urb with these programs is just wishful thinking by their fanbases, and clickbait for the media.
I think trying to maintain perfection at the school you love the most is stressful. I think having no ties to USC actually helps him. As far as him being AD... working a desk dealing with bureaucracies for an admin that didn't have his back sounds more like punishment than a good gig for him.
He had no ties to Florida before taking that job and certainly the stress there did nothing for his health.
If and when he takes the USC job or any other job to coach DO NOT be mad at Meyer. Be mad at yourself for being so gullible about him. He is who he is and he's not apologetic about it just shady.
Jim Harbaugh to Florida State! You heard it here first sports fans!!!
Well, Columbus wasn't looking for America, my man, but that turned out to be pretty okay for everyone.
Nooooooo! We need him at TTUN forever.
Just don’t see that.
Not sure who will go were but Franklin is not the darling to a few of the big wigs at PSU or fans either. I also have read many times that Franklin is a real butt head and not well liked in the coaching circle. Coach's much like police and fireman are a pretty tight group and rarely here bad words ever mentioned in either to those out side of their world. Every coach loses recruiting battles and players leave for one reason or another but Franklin has lost a nice number in the last couple years and kids in his back yard.?
Why would James Franklin be such a hot name, I mean he is 5-12 against MSU, TTUN, and OSU, and will be 5-13 after November 23rd. Him and Harbaugh have to be the two coaches who get the most love for being below average coaches. They beat up on bad teams, but consistently get out coached and fall short against teams on equal footing.
Take away his first two seasons (which potential employers don't care nearly as much about as his last four) and Franklin is 5-6 against those teams.
He's also 39-9 overall during the last four seasons, which is a VERY good record for any program that isn't a Bama, Ohio State, or Oklahoma type blueblood.
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Yeah and? That record doesn't mean anything to me if can't win the B1G or a bowl game. His team collapsed late last season. He got to a B1G championship game on a lot of fluke stuff happening in 2016 vs. us. They beat us and they earned the win, but on some things that were more or less implosions by us. They rely on whiteout atmospheres to create a significant home field advantage. He blew two leads against us in the last 2 years. He can beat up on all sorts of teams and have that record, but when the expectations are growing and about winning big games, he is largely absent. Their OOC schedule is a joke and they beat up on crappy teams.
Well he did win the B1G, and you can't use the fluke stuff in 2016 if you don't acknowledge that them blowing those two games against us were also flukes.
PSU has played us tougher than any team the past 4 years. And if you're gonna bash a potential candidate you should list who you think is better. Let's hear it.
I'd argue we outplayed them in 2017 and maybe they outplayed us last year and it was more of a fluke. He also a 2 loss team that won a conference. I think there at least 15 coaches who are better than Franklin. His teams blow leads and he is consistently making questionable calls.I simply do not believe Franklin is a top 15 coach. All I am saying is that don't let that recent record deceive you. You want coaches who are better than him...here you go...Day, Petersen, Rhule, Saban, Orgeron, Smart, Riley, Dabo, Fisher, Patterson, Chryst, Whittingham, Campbell, Mullen, and Leach
Literally 90% of those aren't leaving their schools, and the other 10% is very, very debatable to being better than Franklin.
You realize this about USC finding a coach, right? That is the topic at hand lol
No. Absolutely not. PSU blowing 2 games against us in the 4th quarter was not a fluke. Two huge leads choked away in late 4th quarter games? If anything, that's a trend.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
FSU probably can't afford anyone at or near Franklin's level right now. They're going to roll the dice on some G5 hotshot like Memphis's coach or potentially Luke Fickell.
If I were James Franklin I would go to FSU strictly for eye candy around campus.
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Look out Song Girls.
Day dances better too that cat has no rythum for a brother.
Franklin being a “brother” was news to me. I honestly had no clue.
You thought he was Sicilian?
Yeah. Something like that. I just hadn’t really thought about it but I never thought he was African American.
Penn State was pretty frustrated after last season. Their was commentary out there about grumblings of frustrated donors and officials at Penn State that were unhappy with Franklin after starting last season as a top 10 team but getting beat by their 3 biggest competitors in the B1G while losing 2 of those at home. They really struggled in most of their games after losing to us. Indiana took it to them for 3 quarters before fading.
They haven't impressed this year either and let ttun back in.
If Franklin leaves PSU, they’ll think they’ll get Urban. Calling it now.
I feel there is this rumor nearly every year. Or at least a similar rumor. I doubt he goes anywhere. I dislike him, so I would love to see him out of the Big Ten.
Neither one is an upgrade, so idk why he would.
This is a yearly rumor started by PSU’s enemies!
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Franklin's yelling at students, rude with media etc.. he'd be a bad fit in LA when TMZ starts asking him questions outside a steakhouse in Beverly Hills. USC needs someone who's a media darling
I don't really care, but tell me why USC would be (is) even interested in Franklin?
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
Because nobody else wants to go there?!
I don't think USC would be an easy job at all. West Coast sports are at a huge disadvantage in TV coverage. I mean, year after year, we hear about what innovative things they're doing to raise Pac 12 ratings. Then, when you sprinkle in the LA factor, I don't know that there's a coach big enough out there to handle it.
Not named Urban Meyer.
I don't want him to take it, but that program needs an Urban or Saban sized ego and mentality. That's why Pete thrived, and so many others have withered on the vine.
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Yep, agree...all that and the private institution setting, along with what shakes out regarding benefits/endorsements to student-athletes, new AD, etc.
Not to mention the gig at present ain't worth the hype, imho.
I don't know who is their guy, but all that doesn't translate to Franklin.
$10M+ per year to Saban.
I don't think that Franklin takes either job, but if had to choose, he should choose Florida State. The ACC is literally no better than the AAC, and that's without excluding Clemson. That's how bad the conference is. If there were a conference to be in, that's the one. Although, being in the same division as Clemson is basically the same as being in the East with Ohio State. So, in the end, I think he stays put.
Franklin to USC is very possible. Probably as big of a splash as they could make other than Coach Meyer. The buyout there would probably be less of a factor than FSU. It is a private university so nobody is aware of its financial capabilities.
Heck, maybe they can even get a few girls on the rowing team to give up their scholarships to fund it...
"Heck, maybe they can even get a few girls on the rowing team to give up their scholarships to fund it..."
Aunt Becky knows a guy
I don't think Franklin would leave PSU. He actually wanted to stay at MD but they wouldn't make him coach in waiting. Switching into Dabo's division doesn't make a lot of sense, he is already a proven winner, we are all anticipating that Day will be. USC would make more sense if he were to jump.
How has no one asked which PSU recruits we would want if Franklin bails after this season. I have to go look up who they have committed bc I haven't been watching them closely this year
Never mind. I just looked up their class and now understand why no one asked my question
Logged in just to upvote this, lol
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I don’t know if he will but he should. He’s a good recruiter and USC basically recruits itself when they’re decent. The pac 12 is infinitely easier than the B1G East. He was on his way to getting fired before moorhead came in and saved him and he’s one of the worst end of game coaches in the country. Take that money and run.
I'll just be happy knowing how much panic it would create for PSU fans if Franklin leaves.
Given the strength of the Buckeyes, I would jet to USC if I were Franklin. It's a top 5 program, with 5 stars falling in your lap. Penn State is not. FSU, no thanks.
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I'll say this about Franklin, the man can flat-out recruit his ass off. His tactics are suspect, but he would be a recruiting juggernaut at FSU. I think there's absolutley a part of him that is frustrated by the ceiling Penn State has when it comes to recruiting and competing for national titles. I think he atleast uses FSU as a negotiation tactic for a new contract if he doesn't take the job.
Does PSU really have a lower ceiling? I don't mean this as a critique, just honest question. I mean, the guy is in one of the top 5 states for recruiting, he's next to another in Ohio, and can recruit nationally.
Franklin's biggest problem, honestly, is Franklin. His second is if Ryan Day ends up being the best coach in the conference, like Urban was during his entire tenure. And that's not going to change if he goes to FSU or USC.
Ohio is not a top 5 state for talent and Pa. trails Ohio. Florida Texas and California have always been the top 3. Other states go up and down the rankings but Ohio years ago was a top 7 not any more.
USC might be a good fit for Franklin. I'll be honest, I expected a worse season for PSU than the one they're having now, so he's definitely bought himself some time. I thought something was going down with all the recruits bailing. And I don't necessarily think that's not the case anymore. It's hard to quit while you're ahead, but I think he'd be wise to sell high.
Franklin should find the USC job more appealing given that FSU is the more complete dumpster fire. He might think the occasional Rose Bowl is his ceiling at Penn St (given their lack of eliteness) and the juggernautiness of Ohio St. He might see more potential for championship eliteness at USC.
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I personally think James Franklin's decision may ride on the outcome of this years Psu vs tOSU game. They beat us once on a fluke blocked FG, but have jumped on us early twice only to lose 4th quarter leads in 1 score games. He wins one against Day this year and he is King Tut. He gets blown out by Day and he may just submit and bolt for an easier path.
Like Bert did when he saw the writing on the wall with Urban.
I came her for my favorite Franklin gif. Surprised it hasn’t been posted.
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I think Franklin would crash and burn at both schools. While PSU wasn't exactly doing great when he got here, he really benefited from Bill O'Brien's time there. He built some of the infrastructure that enabled Franklin to build momentum right away.
USC and FSU are not places where he has any momentum whatsoever. USC has a new AD, FSU is an absolute tire fire right now. Franklin would just end up pouring gasoline on it.
And Franklin being a terrible in-game coach wouldn’t help matters either.
It's been mentioned, but I think decision is based off of this years game.
Both schools are in talent rich regions and both play in conferences that they could easily with with 2 years, with right coach.
However, it's crazy to think that he is in the position for either. If Urban doesn't rush the FG team on in the rain, we win that game and Franklin may have been done at PSU. First thing Franklin needs to do if he takes either job is to send Urban a thank you basket. Franklin may also never get the talent he's had a PSU at the same time again. At the other schools he could rotate through studs much easier
Without having read any comments above mine, I don’t understand why he’d leave unless he had particular ties or hates cold weather: There are many jobs equal to PSU (and a couple better, including us) but I’d think any of the open big program jobs are lateral moves at best.
I don’t know why OSU fans insist on believing every coach and school bases their decision making on trying to escape OSU. I guarantee you none of them ever consider this. Franklin has established a strong program and if they’re never better than OSU so what? That’s not the only standard people are applying. Our fan base can be a bit.... narcissistic? (To put it mildly)
florida State is a horrible job and USC involves a seismic lifestyle change. When you work in LA you’re not on the beach all day. You’re more likely stuck in traffic or escaping a fire.
It isn’t escaping OSU because you know you can never beat them. It’s being at PSU the mountain to get solidly past OSU is much harder to climb than going to USC and climbing over Oregon. It would maybe even be easier at Florida State to recruit and get past Clemson. OSU is at a level PSU May never be able to replicate let alone in the next few years for Franklin.
I agree. The only coach I will say straight up left because he was scared of Ohio State was Bret Bielema. That a-hole couldn't even beat the Buckeyes during the Fickell season. Urban comes along, swipes a couple of his recruits, beats him again, this time in Madison and he couldn't leave fast enough. Hated that douche.
Franklin's wife is from the west coast and went to college at UW. So that may be a factor. If SC gives him a big offer, I think he would leave. No competition in the P12 while here in the B1G he has a juggernaut in OSU every year.
I feel his personality would be better suited for USC. That being said. Coaching at Penn State is a pretty good gig, and they're paying him top dollar. I'm not sure why he'd leave that to go to the shitshow known as USC. I think it's quite clear that that school, athletic department, and football program all need a major overhaul and culture change.
There are some places that are just poison and USC is one of them. FSU and Texas are two others. Franklin is better off staying put. Those schools would be better off with Fleck. Better coach for less money.
Franklin to USC makes more sense just based off of how terrible the infrastructure at FSU is.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I really can't see Franklin leaving PSU anytime soon. Let's face it: he has PSU on a trajectory that is getting closer to OSU every year. They are by far the biggest threat to OSU winning the conference, and have been for several years. I don't see him walking away from that.
Having said that, the meltdown on BWI would be absolutely a thing of beauty if it happens, second only to the meltdown on MGo if Jimmy takes another gig.
Obviously I would much rather live in So Cal then PA, and easier competition in conference but other than that I'm staying at PSU. Elite HS football region (PA/OH/NJ/DMV) that allows you to have the same ceiling as Ohio State in a football mad state where it is their passion in a high competitive conference will the games are bigger from week to week. And it is home for Franklin. I don't see him leaving personally.
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Franklin has a very good situation at PSU. He's recruiting quite well. To piggyback on the above poster, they have a large recruiting area within 250 miles of their campus. They'll go 11-1, and Franklin will get a raise. They've been very competitive with us and I believe will continue as such as for a while. FSU is a dumpster fire and USC isn't what it used to be.
Our objective is simple: to make the state of Ohio proud.
A lot of people in here talking about a recruiting ceiling at Penn State, I don’t get it. You have Ohio, PA, and the DMV area, Penn State is far and away better than people are giving credit for. Franklin has done a great job recruiting at Penn State.
FSU has trash facilities and a retiring president plus an interim AD. That doesn’t even begin to describe that abysmal culture in that program. FSU is hot garbage I wouldn’t want as a big time coach. Some up and comer is going to have a hell of a tough job in front of him, hot chicks and recruiting grounds be damned.
USC might or might not have plenty of money, good facilities and recruiting ground. Much of a step up from FSU, that much is for sure. They do have a very fair weather fan base and I doubt the Colliseum has been packed in awhile.
USC if he leaves but I doubt he does. FSU is a joke right now
Don't forget New Jersey. You can win national championships at Penn State.
Has not happened in a while and you have to play Ohio State, but it is possible. They have recruited well, but results on the field are somewhat mixed.
USC is the better job for sure compared to FSU, but there's no way he leaves PSU for either of them. He already recruits very well at PSU, despite going up against OSU and TTUN. PSU will almost always be in the thick of the conference championship race at Penn State. Fure sure he would see the same kind of success at USC, but it would be a step back at first. There is no reason for him to leave.
The more interesting question, does Penn St want him to leave? Obviously they are happy with the job he's done, but if he's actually talking to other schools, one of if not the hottest coach in job circles is Matt Rhule, a dyed in the wool Nittany. If Franklin is actually talking to other places, I imagine as Penn St you'd want him to jump before you lose the ready made replacement.
Good question. Minnesota offered the boat tower more money and an extension. I recall LSU offering the Hat an extension when he was considered the favorite to take over at tsun years ago. What is PSU offering Franklin to stay?
I think PSU is a great job. I think USC is a great job. I think FSU could be a great job but right now is a dumpster fire.
Franklin could look at how weak the ACC is or PAC 12 is and realize a lot of wins are there for the taking, which is not the case in the Big 10 East. That...and money... will likely be the reason he goes whenever he goes.
You win with people.
And so forth...
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Football is still about recruiting. At FSU Franklin could still tap into the pipelines he's created for PSU. Not the same at USC. Never seen the upside to a coach getting too far away from his bread and butter recruiting trail.
Honestly think how we finish up will have an impact on Franklin. It's already tough to convince kids to pick PSU over OSU but he still wins a few of them. We run the table and they lose a few and that gets even tougher.
USC is a project imo. Majority of the best players East of Texas don't want to go out there and way too many kids are leaving the West Coast chasing relevant programs.. FSU, if things go right, could own the state again pretty quick ( with the right coach)..
Franklin has been a pretty good recruiter, but the base is still limited at Penn State. Mostly because the in-state talent has fallen off a cliff in Pennsylvania. This year they are 13th in the composite with a full class of 27 kids. Only 9 of them are 4-stars. He's had one top 10 and no top 5 classes at PSU, despite their good success on the field.
You can easily recruit better than that at USC, especially with the lack of competition from UCLA right now.
He will possibly go to USC. FSU is a total mess at the moment, I think they're going to have to find a young, eager up and coming superstar who has the energy and resilience to revive that program. It could take a few years, and is the administration there going to be patient? They could be entering a phase of head coach revolving door status.