After thinking about this (right after I created it)...I'm not sure Baylor is ranked that highly. I could see Oregon swapping with them (UGA has a good win, and a "good" win on their schedule but a much worse loss).
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Yeah, Minny is without a loss too. If you’re actually thinking it matters.
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I think it will be the same 1-5. I actually think we may be at 1, but the winner of Alabama and LSU likely moves to 1 next week.
3. Ohio State
6. Penn St.
You have a lot of faith in the committee's SEC bias.
North Pole has history on his side. I believe UGA will be ahead of PSU, deserved or not. I hope he and I are wrong.
Remember last year when 2 loss Georgia was considered by many to be better than 1 loss B1G champ Ohio State?
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No way will a team that lost to SC be ranked above an undefeated PSU.
OSUs loss was by 31 to an unranked team equivalent to SC. So your logic fails there.
North Pole is not crazy but here is my top 6:
1) LSU 2) OSU 3) Bama 4) Clemson 5) PSU 6) Georgia
I didn't say it was logical. I just have a feeling that UGA will be above Penn State in the first committee poll even if PSU is undefeated.
I also said I hope I am wrong. Logic doesn't always play a part in the CFP polls IMO.
I think this is right on. They'll want #1 vs #2 on 11/9. Even if it's on CBS at 3:30, it helps the bottom line at 'The Mouse'.
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I can see the Bucks anywhere from 2-4. LSU will be 1, then Bama, OSU, Clemson in some order. PSU at 5, UGA at 6, Oregon 7, Utah 8.
1. LSU - committee will say best resume
2. Alabama - committee will try to talk around answering why, sets up 1 vs 2 which makes $$$
3. Ohio State - committee will talk about game control
4. Clemson - committee’s other princess
5. Penn State
I am glad to see Indiana is projected to be in the top 25. Keep it up Hoosiers. It gives us another ranked team on the resume.
1. Ohio St. 2. LSU 3. Alabama 4. Clemson 5. Penn St.
5. Georgia 6. Penn St 7. Oregon 8. Utah 9. Florida 10. Auburn
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2. Ohio State
5. Penn State
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever.
1. Ohio State 2. Lsu 3. Alabama 4. Penn State 5. Clemson 6. Oregon
All over it! Nice work.
Except for UGA being ahead of Oregon at 6.
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4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
Then next week when LSU beats Bama with Tua playing part time, and PSU beats MN it will be:
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
Is this a serious prediction? You believe that a one-loss Alabama, after having lost to LSU, would be ranked #2 then? Ahead both an undefeated Clemson and Ohio State?
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Is this a serious prediction?
No, it isn't.
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Thank you - should have used italics.
I found it frickin hilarious even without the italics. And probably more truth than sarcasm....
nice job 2
He should have put Bama 3rd and Clemson 2nd and it would have caught and tripped even more people up, bc that is even more believable lol!!
Bama won't be 2 if they lose to LSU but they won't fall out of the top 5 unless it's a blowout but even then I'm not sure. Remember the Committee's criteria: And SEC win is worth two more wins in another conference and an SEC loss is worth 1/2 loss in other conferences.
I took a look back to see how good the 1st rankings have been. Was most interested in seeing how often the final playoff teams were top 4 teams, how often the champion was an initial top 4 team, and how often/if ever the first #1 ranked team went on to win the championship.
2014: only 1 team in the first ranking (FSU) ended up in the playoff. 25% accurate, winner (OSU) not in list, #1 team at the time (Miss St) didnt even make the playoff
2015: 2 teams in initial ranking (Clemson, Bama) made the playoff. So 50% accurate, winner (Bama) was ranked #4, and #1 team at the time was Clemson.
2016: 2 teams in initial ranking (Clemson, Bama) made the playoff. 50% accurate, winner (Clemson) was ranked #2, and #1 team at the time was Bama.
2017: 3 teams in initial ranking (Georgia, Clemson, Bama) made the playoff. 75% accurate. Winner (Bama) was ranked #2 at the time, #1 ranked team was Georgia.
2018: 3 teams in initial ranking (Bama, Clemson, ND) made the playoff. 75% accurate. Winner (Clemson) was ranked #2, #1 ranked team at the time was Bama.
So the first rankings captures the final 4 playoff teams with just over 50% accuracy. The first #1 ranked team has never ended up winning the championship but made it to the playoff every year but 2014. However the first #2 ranked team has won it 3 times.
Perfect, let's go with LSU #1 and OSU #2, please.
2. Ohio State
5. Penn State
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I’ve come down back to earth & made these picks. I refuse to be let down by the same group of people that had Kentucky, WSU, etc. ahead of OSU all last season. Doesn’t matter how great we’ve looked, I expect tomfoolery from the committee unless I see otherwise.
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This is what I believe the committee will do.
2. Ohio State
5. Penn State
We shall see.
1. Ohio State
5. Penn St
There's a snowball's chance in hell Auburn is ranked below those B1G teams.
no way Baylor deserves that high up in the rankings and Minnesota that low. Baylor is exactly like Minnesota. Yet to play someone in there conference with a pulse.
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1. LSU (Wins over Texas, FL & Auburn)
2.) OSU (Wins over Cinci & Wisky)
3.) Clemson (escaped UNC)
4.) Bama (Because Bama, as they have yet to play anyone)
5.) Penn State
(And the final 4 come out of that group)
If OSU is in the Top 2, I’ll be very surprised. Also, Indiana could potentially be ranked so that’s three Top 25 wins. Indiana would destroy Texas, just pointing that out.
I mentioned over in the B1G recap that Indiana is having a nice season, and you're right they very well could be ranked. Which would further support tOSU at #2. Im interested in the Indiana matchup with tTUN in Bloomington the week before the game. tTUN will have to show up for that one, cause if they are looking ahead..... (of course the week before that the Hoosiers play in Happy Valley)
No Oklahoma in top 8?
I think some of us on here are acting like PSU fans with how we just assume the world is against us. There’s a lot of new faces on the committee. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove me otherwise. I think it should, and will be:
4) PSU (ranked second in strength of record)
This is how I think it SHOULD be. LSU, has nice wins. OSU decent schedule, margin of victory, passed weird eye test criteria, Bama cause Bama, PSU over Clemson because of Wofford. If bama beats lsu then they would move to #1.
I can see how any one of these scenarios could represent the initial poll...except those with LSU, Bama, OSU, and PSU in the top four. Even at this juncture, the committee would not likely have only two conferences represented in the playoff picture.
As if they matter. The committee will play nice until it matters. Remember they adhere to no criteria, regardless of the committee speak. Teams can rise and fall each week and we’re forced to try and figure out what the heck we should even root for. Oregon’s Christobal said after the game last night, that they have to continue to play well so the committee keeps them in the conversation. Hard to believe this amazing industry of College football has in effect no standard for selection into the playoff format.
I see no clear top team. If I’m honest I say each team has certain strengths and weaknesses. I think our Buckeyes are prone to upset because of the sacks we have taken. (Can’t have drive killers against strong teams) I think Oklahoma can out score anyone, if their defense plays even moderately well. Georgia potentially could get anyone into phone booth slugfest. Clemson is dangerous because they always exploit weaknesses against good competition. LSU is not great defensively and their offensive line isn’t dominant, which may minimize Burrow’s dominance. And so on. Somehow the committee figures this all out, and then changes their assessments week by week with a straight face.
CFB needs 4 evenly balanced Conferences of 12 teams with the most historically successful programs, and recent impact. The top 4 division winners compete in a playoff. Increase the number of scholarships, allow players to profit from their likeness. This would insure that the likely best players would be attracted to these schools and make the set up inarguably the best.
If changes don’t occur the process will remain farcical. Rant complete.
Committee will rank:
2 Alabama (so if they lose they drop to 3 or 4 and still make it to CFP)
3 OSU (most complete team but one stumble and out of cfp)
4 Clemson (because defending champion)
5 Penn State ( if they beat OSU becomes #4)
6 Georgia (Sec championship win puts in cfp)
7 Oregon (will not get ahead of any 1 loss sec team)
8 Oklahoma ( same as Oregon)
If LSU wins their game against Bama on 11/9---Bama will make it in on one loss......
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I would not discount how big of a deal it is that Gene Smith is no longer on the committee. That should help OSU to not have the B1G/midwest representative removed from the room every time they are discussed and ranked.
OSU will be no worse than #2.
I actually agree that this was a negative last year.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
I don't know the makeup of the committee this year but I remember that last year whenever Ohio State was being discussed 3 or 4 members had to leave the room which is stupid.
These people are supposed to have the highest integrity and thought of so highly but yet they still think that they won't give a truthful opinion of the team being discussed.
Looks like someone is confused on the OP's thread discussion and stutters often....
Or is simply trying to shove his opinion down our throats...lol
He's hit about three threads already with the same content......
1. Ohio State
2. Penn State
Can somebody slap the shit outta this Habib guy?
B1G Champ if undefeated
I'm ready to expand to 8 teams. I think all the P5 1-loss teams deserve a shot too which will likely be at least one in the Pac 12, one in the Big 12, one in the B1G, and two in the SEC.
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I think one or two could go either way
3 Penn St
6 Georgia or Oregon
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If the committee is consistent, which they won't be because they change how they weight the criteria every year, tOSU should be #1 Tuesday. Pretty much every single computer poll out there has tOSU #1 in the country and having the best SoS of any of the top 4 teams. They also pass the "look test" by winning every single game this year by 24 or more, having an average margin of victory of 40.3 pts and every game over by halftime.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
ESecPN put out their picks for the playoff today and 13 of the 14 picked LSU, bama, Clemson, OSU. The only one that didn't was Ryan McGee(he attended Tennessee so he is not a smart man) who put in Penn St over Ohio State.
Even worse, the ESPN poll is not supposed to be about predicting the final ranking. It is supposed to be as the season stands so far. Of course, being a Tennessee guy, he may not have been able to read that part.
Hypothetically if Bama loses to LSU, what's the logic behind putting Bama in? They're not a conference champion. They didn't play in their conference championship game. They had a very weak schedule. If Bama has one loss, and you're comparing Bama to Oregon or Oklahoma, and both Oregon and Oklahoma win their conference, not sure Bama has a leg to stand on. According to the committee conference champions matter.
None of that applies to Alabama. Each SEC win is equal to at least two wins in any other conference and a loss in the SEC is equal to a win anywhere else just because you were on the same field as a winning SEC team.
I'm actually eager to see how much they speak negatively about Bama's schedule so far. I don't think most people realize just how bad it is. I think Klatt said that their opponent's records so far this season are the literal worst in Power 5. The bottom.
If they rank them #2 or higher and effectively say their SOS doesn't matter, everyone needs to speak up from the other conferences because the committee is an obvious farce.
I actually believe Bama will be specifically penalized in their ranking because of their SOS. I predict the committee to touch on it.
1. LSU (best resume and they're undefeated, so the committee will have to put them here)
2. Ohio State (best looking team so far, undefeated, decently strong resume)
3. Alabama (strong team, poor resume)
4. Clemson (see #3)
Those I feel pretty confident about, beyond here it gets tricky.
5. Penn State (I don't think you can put Georgia ahead of them simply because Penn State is undefeated and have a fairly decent win over Michigan)
6. Georgia (SEC perception gets them the nod over Oregon, even though Oregon is probably a better team)
Here's where it gets interesting again. Auburn and Florida are probably better teams than Baylor and Minnesota, but I believe the committee, going by what they've said and done in the past, won't put 2-loss teams ahead of undefeated P5 teams
16. Notre Dame
19. Boise State
21. Kansas State
22. Wake Forest
24. San Diego State
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The big thing will be after this week.
1. LSU Bama winner
2. Ohio State
4 Penn State
5 LSU Bama loser
I agree that this is how it will look next Tuesday except PSU will be 3 after beating an undefeated, top 20 Minnesota team and Clemson beats whoever the hell they play from the ACC. So it will be:
5. LSU Bama loser
Now just think what it will be if Minny pulls the upset and the Bama LSU loser gets boat raced!
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