P5 Coaches on the Hot Seat

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

I heard Joe Moorhead is the rumored head coach-in-waiting at Rutgers.

Florida State apparently can't afford the buy out on one of the worst head coaching hires in recent memory. 

Clay Helton may survive at USC. I've actually heard complimentary things about what he's dealt with, and how much more talent he has coming in (#8 class last year, IIRC). 

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BrutusB's picture

Choosing between Miss St and Rutgers are just two terrible options. He’s probably better off just waiting another year and taking basically anything else. 

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

I don't disagree, but I actually think he may have an easier time on the recruiting trail at Rutgers. In any event, it's a stepping stone. 

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stxbuck's picture

Mississippi State recruits NFL talent like nobodies business-Mississippi kids are homebodies. Rutgers, not so much...........then again, I'd rather live in Sopranoland as opposed to Stark-vegas.............

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

USC gonna return their QB and should return 9 starters next year on both offense and D. Next year could be a good year for them. And having beat Utah this year, they control their own destiny in terms of making it to the conference title game. Big one with Oregon this weekend.

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

I would've picked USC in one of my parlays but them being down multiple starters, especially on D I'm not gonna risk that.

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buckeyearchie76's picture

That rumor has been spreading in Cincinnati as well about the Mississippi State coach wanting to go to Rutgers because he has Eastern ties.  But, part 2 of the rumor is that Luke is the man Mississippi State wants.  

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RBloodworth's picture

I’d honestly be shocked if Luke left Cincy for Stark Vegas.  He just seems like a Midwest lifer.  I might be able to see him leaving for, say, the Michigan State or Illinois job, but Mississippi State?  I don’t see a good cultural fit.  At all.

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Dstacify's picture

I kind of doubt Fickell is leaving UC for anything short of the OSU job. He's been in the state of Ohio throughout his entire coaching career and prefers it here.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

I think that’s mostly true, though I could see Luke going to Notre Dame, Louisville, Pittsburgh, or West Virginia as well... still strong Midwest recruiting but also in Power 5.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

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Dstacify's picture

IIRC Luke was offered the Pitt job a few years ago and turned it down (this was when he was still at OSU under Meyer). Maybe I'm thinking of another school but it took a lot of coaxing from Meyer to convince Fickell to leave OSU for the UC head coaching job (he was originally content to stick around long term in a Brent Venables type of role under Urban because he loves OSU so much and Columbus is home to him and his family). I don't see him leaving UC anytime soon for the same reason I don't see Day leaving OSU as soon as people think. He most likely doesn't want to uproot his family again (especially considering his kids are all still very young and in their primary school years).

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c92996p's picture

Kelly still has 2-3 more years.  Mora left the cupboard so bare the cobwebs felt lonely.  He'll have them going once the team is fully rebuilt.

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Spartan13's picture

Chip Kelly May be the worst recruiter in the P5 at UCLA

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stripedwarrior's picture

Probably because his subscriptions ran out with some of the recruiting services that he used to use.

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BrewinBuckFan's picture

The UCLA roster is in much worse shape then when Kelly arrived, for his faults Mora recruited pretty well. Kelly on the other hand doesn't even try to recruit.

It's a moot point however since UCLA can not afford to fire Kelly and it doesn't seem like Kelly has a legit chance of an NFL job as an HC or OC

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ohiowhitesnake's picture

I have a few friends who are Miami fans. They are ready to move on from Diaz and make a run at Cristobal. Again, no sources, just friends... 

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BrewstersMillions's picture

That would be great given what Diaz did to Temple then tried to pull with his players.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Manny Diaz and Jimbo Fisher arent earning their paychecks. Wouldnt he surprised to see Mark Dantonio to retire soon.. but I can't really think of anyone that is on a really hot seat.

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BrutusB's picture

Jimbo has the coldest seat in the country. They owe him a gazillion dollars. 

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johnblairgobucks's picture

He may get arrested for fraud and theft, though

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BrutusB's picture

Apparently Tennessee can’t afford to get rid of Pruitt - they’re still paying Butch Jone for another year or two, plus Pruitts eventual buyout PLUS the new coach. But it could be a moot point anyway as they seem improved (albeit from a low bar) and could make a bowl. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Can you imagine signing on for a job where you turn out to be so inept, they want to fire you but can't? You'd be like a real life Michael Scott.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Rocket Man's picture

Well then give Jimmy H a Dundie!

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

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Jumar's picture

You'd be like a real life Michael Scott.

Michael Scott may have been an idiot, but he could run a paper company. Not only was Scranton one of the best performing branches, with the best salesman, The Michael Scott Paper Company almost ran Dunder Mifflin out of Scranton.

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OHinTN's picture

Pruitt is safe for now.  This is only his 2nd season and although they were absolutely horrendous to start the season, they have won 2 of their last 3 (Bama only loss) and have UAB, Kentucky, Missouri and Vandy to end the year.  They win 3 of those 4 and they're going to a bowl.

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RollRedRoll's picture

Harbaugh has to be on the hot seat if he gets hammered by the bucks again. His 0-4 record is already the worst record for any coach in TTUN history versus the bucks. His teams have played one close game where they lost by 3, his other losses to the bucks were by 29, 23, and 11 points. I know he is a former player and local hero and all that, but at some point someone up there is going to have to make the hard call and ask ole jimmy boy to move on if he can’t beat the bucks. 

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PRO8's picture

I think if anything it will be his record overall against OSU,PSU and MSU that will get him canned ... you can lose to one of them most of the time but if he keeps losing to all of them most of the time like he has been, he will be gone...

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RollRedRoll's picture

Good point, assuming he beats Michigan State and losses to the bucks he will have a 6-9 record versus OSU, PSU, and Sparty. That’s pretty bad for a school that thinks they are a blue blood. 

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PRO8's picture

MSU would be wise to hire Fick while they can and move on from Dantonio....it would also be a nice place for Fick to end up... 

Texas A&M was an accident that happened the minute Fisher  was hired with that contract... they will be very disappointed with the ROI...

I wonder how that kid from Cali that dropped the Bucks right before signing day IIRC two years ago feels about jumping on the Taggart band wagon and following him to FSU?

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Keep seeing fickell to MSU but I think he’s better off where he is.  He’ll be 4th best in the B1G east for the foreseeable future.  Stay at cinci, unless he thinks he’ll never get Ohio State.  Also think MSU wants an offensive coach, not essentially a younger dantoni. Fleck makes a lot of sense there.  

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PhillyNut's picture

Seriously doubt Fleck would move from being head coach at one Big Ten school to be that at another. I think the Big Ten would have a real problem with that.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Why?  Wasn’t Glen Mason a serious candidate for Ohio State before Tressel got it?  I didn’t know the conference would get involved like that.  You might be right.  Still think an offensive coach though.  

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RBloodworth's picture

Leaving Minnesota for Ohio State and leaving Minnesota for Michigan State are two different things.  The latter is pretty much a lateral move.  It wouldn't make any sense for Fleck to leave Goldy for Sparty.  Luke Fickell is a far more likely candidate for that job if it opens up, but I also agree with others that say that MSU might not want to consider replacing Dantonio with what is essentially Dantonio v. 2.0.

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Grouchy_Old_Vet's picture

And I truly believe Minnesota can be built into a program similar to what mich St is/has been. If fleck doesn't have larger aspirations than an MSU caliber job, then why not just stay there and continue making Minnesota his own?

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Hoody Wayes's picture

Minnesota could become the Ohio State of the B1G West. Fleck's got the energy, talent and vision to make it so.

Minneapolis, like Columbus, affords young ambitious men the pro-view of life and work, while in college. The mix of economic power, culture and proximity to professional sports teams is enticing. 

With the rules about compensating athletes up for discussion, now. cities like Cbus and Minny are positioned to maximize their potential as fertile grounds for college football talent and success. 

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stxbuck's picture

Minnesota ain't making the playoffs any time soon-THAT would make them the "tOSU of the B10 West".

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stxbuck's picture

If proximity to pro sports teams was so enticing, recruits wouldn't leave S. Florida and Tampa in droves for Clemson, Auburn, Bama, Tennessee, tOSU (DBs don't care about the Bluejackets).........................................

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Pretty rare for teams to poach a head coach directly from another school in their conference. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Tommy Tuberville (Ole Miss to Auburn), Dan Mullen (Mississippi State to Florida) and, possibly Houston Nutt, who technically resigned from Arkansas and then four days later was hired by Ole Miss. Only in the SEC, I guess.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Dstacify's picture

Spurrier and Saban have both coached at two separate SEC programs but I guess in their cases they had failed NFL stops in between lol.

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Akron Buck's picture

that would be a lateral move, unless MSU offers him a boat load more money, it doesn't have any benefits because now he faces PSU, UM, tOSU every year. It's one thing to leave for one of those 3 but despite Dantonio doing a great job and having a few real good years overall MSU and MInny are really the same program.

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buckz4evr's picture

it doesn't have any benefits because now he faces PSU, UM, tOSU every year.

I think that is the exact reason he won't go to MSU. He's doing great where he is now and getting a lot of national media attention.  Come to think of it, who in there right mind would want to take over any open position in the B1G East unless it's already established programs like PSU, UM or OSU

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OHinTN's picture

I didn't understand TA&M hiring Jimbo when they did it and now I understand why I didn't understand...or something like that...

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Illinois has a very good chance to be bowl eligible. If they do that, Lovie is 100% safe.

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Larryp713's picture

I think Lovie is safe regardless. Illinois is really not currently an attractive hire for big name coaches. He coached in the Super Bowl and if given a few years, will be able to bring some very good talent back to Champagne. I am buying Illinois with Lovie as the coach, they will be competitive soon.

Respectfully,

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AZBUCKFAN's picture

I hear that Gus Malzahn (Auburn) is feeling the heat, too. That seems to have been the case for a couple of years now.

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PRO8's picture

Didn't they fire ? Tuberville 3 years after winning a NC?  I wish we had that attitude during JC's first years...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

While Tuberville went 13-0 in 2004, Auburn missed the BCS NC game, which USC won (and later vacated) when it clobbered Oklahoma, 55-19. You’re probably thinking of Gene Chizik, who won the 2010 national championship with Cam Newton and was fired by Auburn two seasons later.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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osu78's picture

Yup. Chizik went from "we wanted a real coach" to the hero to "don't let the door hit you on the way out..."

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Malzahn always seems to have a big year just when he needs it. But that team does not impress me as being very well coached.

UCLA looked like an utter disaster back in September, but they seem to be putting something together.

Michigan State ... man, something needs to happen there. The contrast between the atmospheres here and in Ann Arbor last weekend and up in Lansing (it poured rain in all three stadiums)  was not flattering to Sparty. The program is moribund and the supply of NFL prospects (they've cranked out a lot of talent this decade) has about dried up.

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IslandBumBuckeye's picture

"It's always scotch-thirty on my island."

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Sunny Buck's picture

I could never have imagined seeing both Miami and Florida State at 4-4 in one season. Man have those two teams fallen flat.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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Iwannagobacktoohiostate's picture

I went to 4 FSU-UM games the early 90's.   Probably the best football I have ever seen in person.  The Orange Bowl and Doak Campbell were rocking and all the games went down to the final drive.  The team speed those 2 teams had in their hey day was off the charts.

Now...back to the regularly scheduled programming.

Go Buckeyes!  Win the Bye week!

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sharks's picture

I've read in a few places that Dantonio is retiring after the season. Fickell would seem to be a great fit there.

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OSUEXT's picture

As bad as they have been, Arkansas might open in year 2 for Chad Morris especially if they lose next weekend to a Western Kentucky team led by a QB run off the Arkansas roster by Chad Morris. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Crazy that Morris went to Arkansas from SMU, which is 8-0 and ranked 15th.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

Even crazier that Arkansas thought hiring a guy that went 14-22 at SMU was a good idea.

Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.

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stxbuck's picture

He got hired b/c he was Dabo's boy at Clemson..............

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jeroe's picture

Someone better get it going in Texas or more than weather will be HOT down there!

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buckzilla1's picture

I thought about Tom Herman's stint so far and he may have out kicked his coverage in Texas. His depth at most positions is nill now. I really like Todd Orlando his DC but damn them folks either can't or won't tackle. Herman's act isn't gaining any traction like he had in Houston. His quarterback and quarterback coach you know him and you love him Tim Beck is still a dumb ass who couldn't develop a rash. I look for him to bring Chris Ash on board on the defensive side of the ball and bring Major Applewhite back to the offensive side if Texas will allow him to do that. The clock is ticking and Texas Tom may be just like Texas football if he can't get right. Not Back.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

The comments on their boards are bad. My guess is he has one more season to contend and then they’re done with him. I said all along it was too soon for him to go to a Major P5 program. He needed more seasoning as a HC. Hubris is the downfall of man. 

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ohiopanda's picture

Willie Taggart has to be done. I still don't see why they hired him. He turned USF around with the help of a star QB, then did nothing at Oregon for a year.

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Iwannagobacktoohiostate's picture

FSU is screwed.  They either pay (have invested) $15M and suck.  Or they pay $30M in hopes of future winning and making the money back by being relevant.  

It's like going to Vegas and playing Double Up to Catch Up.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Iowa, have you ever checked out coacheshotseat.com? That site has been around for ever. 

Anyway, they have Joe Moorhead, Miss St. as being ranked #1 hottest seat. In general, their rankings suggest a lot of SEC carnage coming: Will Muschamp, Chad Morris, Barry Odom, Jeremy Pruitt. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I have but it’s been a while.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Nick Saban has ended more HC’s career than any man in college football. SEC teams are chasing the impossible.

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OSUtopia's picture

I don't expect much movement in Power 5 this year. I think a number of coaches will get one more year. That would make 2020 a real interesting year.

I will be surprised, however, if MSU doesn't make a change. The program has stalled and the haven't recruited well last 2-3 years. And of the really good guys they have gotten, a number of them are already gone.

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JimmyVanP's picture

Taggart needs to go.  I can't remember a program that has gone from perennial elite like FSU to complete dogshit like he's made them

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Larryp713's picture

The fall of FSU reminds me of what happened to Tennessee, who just 20 years ago were competing for and won a national championship. FSU needs to hit a home run with their next head coach.

Respectfully,

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Dstacify's picture

Jimbo Fisher is arguably more responsible for FSU's current state than Taggart is. Jimbo completely screwed the program on the way out and left Taggart with a horrible situation to work with. Taggart just hasn't made much improvement so far (aside from the academic performance of the players being higher under him than it was under Jimbo which isn't a hard milestone to top).

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Is there anyone I missed (besides Harbaugh, of course)?

I would say Brian Kelly has to be on the hot seat with his horrible showing at the outhouse. Ive never seen a coach lack confidence in a pregame interview before a big matchup like that. He looked unenthused during the halftime interview as well. Notre Dame is due for a change.

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bd2999's picture

No doubt. His team looked horrible too. I know it was terrible weather and it is harder to play there but they just looked so bad on both sides that it was striking.

The guy has been an underachiever since getting there. I know they made it to the playoff once but still. Seems like they lose bowl games fairly consistently.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

IDK what these teams will be doing come the end of the year, but I'd be shocked if UFM wasn't on the radar of all these schools to at least some extent.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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BuckShotGinn's picture

Not really on the hot seat , but facing some frustrated fans is Kirby Smart.  That program fan-base is just starving for a National Championship (81 was last) and may soon lose patience with Kirby based on his questionable play calling, losing Justin Fields, etc.

They've had insane recruiting success and talent, but the ultimate goal seems ever out of reach.  If they lose to the gators this weekend , expect the murmurs to get considerably louder.

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SuomiBuckeye's picture

Mike Gundy needs to be on this list. I do enjoy his antics but Ok State fails to live up to its potential pretty much every year. They consistently have NFL caliber talent (Dez Bryan, Mason Rudolph, James Washington, Tyreek Hill) and yet they always blow it. Their play calling and time management are constantly atrocious. The Mullet needs to go.

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RBloodworth's picture

Mike Gundy has that program performing at a consistently higher level than at any time since he was the starting QB.  Do they win the Big XII and beat OU and Texas consistently?  No, but neither does TCU, and they have had plenty of NFL talent.  Do you think Gary Patterson should be fired?  Some programs should just be content with being in contention for the conference and making decent bowl games on a yearly basis (see:  State, Michigan).

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Dstacify's picture

Gundy's predecessor at Ok State was Les Miles so he hasn't exactly been the top coach that the program has employed over the last 20 years. He's basically the Stillwater, OK version of Pat Fitzgerald. Devoutly loyal to the program and it seems it goes both ways on the school's part as well.

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SuomiBuckeye's picture

I'm going to agree to disagree with you on this one. If you have the talent to be better, I don't at all think you should just be content at being average. They typically lose because of some bone-headed playcalling. They are 2-12 against the Sooners under Gundy's reign and they have won the Big 12 only once, in 2011, when they probably should have played for the national championship if not for a REALLY awful field goal ruling. He isn't terrible, but can the Cowboys do better?? 100% they can. He's a man, he's 50, he's gotta go.

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Dstacify's picture

Will you stop? Mike Gundy is a man's man. He's 40 lol. s/

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stxbuck's picture

Gundy pretty much has a lifetime contract at OK St., barring Kansas/Arkansas style ineptness, and said this spring he has embraced the fact that he will be at OK St. for his entire career-Tennessee wanted him when they fired Kiffin but he said no thanks. The entire B12, w/ their no D all the time mentality leaves any program in the league vulnerable. Anyone can win in a shootout-as K-State proved last week, and Maryland damn near proved to tOSU last year. Upsets rarely happen b/c crappy defenses get born again hard for a week.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Lovie likely saved his job for another year beating Wisconsin. It's been years since the Illini were in a position to pull off a win like that. And Illinois IS much more improved this year.

Helton is toast. Wouldnt be surprised to see him axed before the season ends.

Kelly gets into a bowl game after last year he wont go anywhere. I think the "disharmony" is him still cleaning out the roster of the previous coach.

Does anyone care if Vanderbilt has a bad coach?

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tampatom's picture

Not sure why anyone would want to go to Rutgers, but if Moorhead does go there, that would impact PSU recruiting in that area

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booj's picture

This list is awful.

There is zero chance Kelly is let go. Mason is still coming off a huge win at a program that can't do better, and Pruitt is only in year 2. 

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Dstacify's picture

The recent play by the Illini may have bought Lovie at least one more season in Champaign. Once Peters graduates however they're going to revert right back to their usual issues at QB most likely.

Also Pat Fitzgerald should be on this list. I get he's revered in Evanston and is seen as the second coming of Christ Incarnate there but NW right now is probably the B1G's second worst team ahead of only Rutgers and they've ruined a former 5-star prospect at QB in Hunter Johnson that just fell into their lap this off-season all because Fitz is way too loyal to Mick McCall and his mediocre offensive staff (McCall has been at NW for awhile now). I get Fitz is beloved in Evanston but he's currently coaching a 1-win team that has plenty of talent (especially on the defensive side of the ball). That's concerning to say the least and evident that coaching has been NW's biggest problem this year.

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stxbuck's picture

Pruitt, Kelly, and Taggart are all being saved by optics/huge buyouts. Like it or not, the schools can't justify the financial outlay so soon and even the rich boosters will say "No mas" for a while longer.

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FeedZeke420's picture

Pruitt- UT fans think the effort against Alabama last week was signs of things "turning around" He will be employed for at least 2 more years.

Chip Kelly- He just started and UCLA is a dumpster fire, UCLA wanted him bad. He wont be going anywhere for awhile

Taggart- FSU cant afford to fire him even though he should be

Mason- I don't see him being fired either.

Dantonio- Yes I think will retire. Theyd be smart to go for Luke but I don't think they will. I also don't think Luke would want to go there. I think hes happy staying in Ohio and helping Ohio kids be successful.

I don't get the Matt Campbell worship. Iowa State has been ok but nothing great. I could see a school like Arkansas or Mich State going for him, but not a tier one job like OSU or bama 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Scratch Willie Taggart.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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