Just saw that headline.. CA led the way I guess.
BREAKING: NCAA will permit athletes to be compensated for their names, images and likenesses, Board of Governors says. https://t.co/4rLzgF127e— The Associated Press (@AP) October 29, 2019
This will be interesting to see how it all shapes out. Bring back NCAA football game now.
Upvoted times a million. I want a new NCAA game so baaaad.
This is all I care about!!
In a news release, board chair Michael V. Drake said the board realized that it “must embrace change to provide the best possible experience for college athletes.”
President Drake, huh?
And another snippet:
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith and Big East Conference Commissioner Val Ackerman are leading the working group, which will present a progress report to the NCAA Board of Governors at Emory University in Atlanta this week.
It is an important early step in a process that could take months or even years to work its way through the NCAA various layers.
But, but, but President Drake is out of touch, doesn't understand OSU football, hates Urban, blah, blah, blah. All these conspiracy theories about Drake really started to get wearing over time.
He still is garbage. Drake that is
Okay. Is that a fact or another delusion you just made up in your own mind?
Uh, that's pretty huge.
Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
This is always the dumbest argument, no matter the topic. "But if we do a good thing, what's to stop us from doing an exaggerated version of that thing that's bad??" Like, as a society we able to decide that we should punish people heavily for murder without extending those punishments to people for frowning.
Completely agree. Down voters are misinformed.
Barney Fife lives, and he lives among us.
Not sure how posting a silly picture mostly for comedic effect lead to me advocating for the death penalty for people who frown, but I'm glad we got there. Upvote to you.
Edit: I am always surprised how hot button of an issue this is on these forums. People really get worked up about it on both sides. It's a tough one for me, as an ex-NCAA D1 athlete, I've at least lived that life. I wasn't Chase Young, but my name and picture is still up in the halls of my Athletic Office last time I checked. Most of this argument is for the 1% of NCAA athletes who are elite in one of the two big money sports. So yeah, I do think it is slippery slope if the NCAA isn't extremely careful about how they do it. I sure don't have the answers, but it is likely to have some amount of unintended consequences.
Agreed. Let the frowners live! It's these jerks going around smiling all the time that we need to eradicate!
20 years too late. This all should have been settled when they made Jeremy Bloom ineligible.
I own a chain of car dealerships outside Tuscaloosa and now I can legally overpay 5 stars. Roll Tide!
So can we get the damn game back now?
FREE EA NCAA FOOTBALL!! Bring it back immediately!!!!!!!
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
every 5 * commits to oregon at once as each are offered 10 million dollar contract form nike for their likeness
[Mod Edit: You could have skipped the opening line and still made your point.] Nike will not start paying kids just because they play for Oregon, and paying kids to get them to go to Oregon WILL STILL BE AGAINST THE RULES. I will say this again because people still don't get it. IT WILL STILL BE AGAINST THE RULES TO PAY KIDS TO GO TO A CERTAIN SCHOOL. Nike will however pay kids who will turn them a profit. You really think they'd give Justin Hebert an endorsement deal just because he plays for Oregon but not to Justin Fields? Nike didn't get to be Nike by doing stupid shit like that.
You really think they'd give Justin Hebert an endorsement deal just because he plays for Oregon but not to Justin Fields? Nike didn't get to be Nike by doing stupid shit like that.
Yes, I actually do.
Bagmen will have new training classes. I can see it now.
I guarantee that, in addition to everything else, you will get 50K a year in endorsements
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The transfer portal may become like free agency. Cam Newton knows it will be
If you think that, I have some ocean front property in Montana for sale. I think you'd love it. Nike is in the business of making money. Justin Fields is far more valuable as an endorser than Hebert. Nike and Ohio State are also in a pretty serious financial relationship. Nike is not about to jeopardize that (plus their relationship with dozens of other schools) just so their CEO's favorite school can win a few extra football games.
I think it's 10000000000000% possible companies like Nike who have an owner/ceo/influence in a certain team just sets a precedent that if you come and play QB at Oregon that deal is say $10K a year.. then they give the Justin Fields of the world $2K or something for a similar endorsement deal.. kids buying jerseys don't care what the athlete is paid.. both QBs would get Nike endorsements but one deal just has some extra sweetner.. and those sweeteners can influence where kids end up...
In theory, Warren Buffet could tell a 5* that he will give him $1,000,000.00 for his autograph the day he starts classes in Lincoln, and it would be completely legal.
Now, I don't think that Warren Buffet would do that, nor do I even know if he likes Nebraska, but that doesn't mean that it can't happen. Johnny Manziel was suspended for a half for accepting $5,000, I believe, for autographing some items. That is a pittance compared to what car dealerships will pay to get guys in commercials or print ads.
It is entirely fair to say that they need to get control measures in place before the lid comes off the can.
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..."nor do I even know if he likes Nebraska".
Buffett is actually a massive Cornhusker football fan. He started out at NU for undergrad before he transferred to UPenn. He and Gates use to place innocent bets on the Washington/Nebraska games in the 90s. This is from one of his biographies I've read.
In the poll era (since 1936), OSU is by far the class of the B1G:
National Titles: OSU 8, UM 3
B1G Titles: OSU 34, UM 27
Head-to-head: OSU 43, UM 36
Major Bowls (New Year's Six): OSU 20-15, UM 10-16
In that case, I think he'd totally do it.
Wait, so you're saying we can pay kids to come to Ohio State?
Troy Smith says yes.
CA called the NCAA's bluff -- honestly this shouldn't be surprising at all
Can only help the rich schools like OSU
NCAA 2021. Make it so.
Buckeye born, Buckeye bred, and when I die, I'll be Buckeye dead.
Its about damn time.
But for real, this will without question benefit us as well as other blue bloods. Which is only going to improve college football.
I’m all for it. But I don’t think it will improve college football. If it does anything, it’ll just put a bigger gap between blue bloods with big fan bases and markets, and the rest of college football
any hope of parody will be gone with this rule. Not the playoffs have much now anyway.
Live look at Mark Emmert
Just keep winning!
Sounds good in theory, much like a 4 team playoff that everybody wants to change again.
I'll wait to see how this turns out.....
Except that isn't at all what they voted on. They voted to "consider updates" to rules surrounding compensation for name, image and likeness for college athletes. This hasn't changed anything yet, and they still maintain the bill that California passed isn't legally binding to them.
It's clear the NCAA is going to fold on this. CA started the process and now Congress has shown interest and members of both political parties have spoken up about it. The NCAA sees the writing on the wall and if they are smart they will get ahead of this and create new bylaws before laws are imposed upon them that they must follow.
From the NCAA Board of Governors (what it’s REALLY saying): We shall strive to allow athletes the right to name image and likeness opportunities, but only in a manner that does not allow them to monetize their name image and likeness opportunities. https://t.co/vFaZRBunQv— Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) October 29, 2019
Thank for posting this tweet by Bilas, thank you too to Keñt who commented in the tweet that Bilas has yet to explain his way to pay players.
Just posting this stuff for those who don't want to read through:
Specifically, the board said modernization should occur within the following principles and guidelines:
-Assure student-athletes are treated similarly to non-athlete students unless a compelling reason exists to differentiate.
-Maintain the priorities of education and the collegiate experience to provide opportunities for student-athlete success.
-Ensure rules are transparent, focused and enforceable and facilitate fair and balanced competition.
-Make clear the distinction between collegiate and professional opportunities.
-Make clear that compensation for athletics performance or participation is impermissible.
-Reaffirm that student-athletes are students first and not employees of the university.
-Enhance principles of diversity, inclusion and gender equity.
-Protect the recruiting environment and prohibit inducements to select, remain at, or transfer to a specific institution.
Sounds like there's still lots of details to be worked out.
Lifetime vs. UM: L 9-1, C 8-0, T 5-0
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Kareemabduljacobb for internet Heisman!
Chase Young for real life Heisman.
Reaffirm that student-athletes are students first and not employees of the university.
The NCAA doesn't want any part of opening up the anti-trust laws.
It goes well beyond that. If a student athlete is considered an employee of Ohio State University, they are automatically enrolled in OPERS, the Ohio public employee retirement system. You will break the already broken civil service employee retirement systems in a lot of states.
"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott
-Ensure rules are transparent, focused and enforceable and facilitate fair and balanced competition.
At this, the NCAA will fail miserably.
Does this mean that CFB jerseys are now allowed to have the players' surnames sown onto the back of them like they are with NFL jerseys?
The blew up college football and the fans rejoiced for a video game.
For someone who read the article, is this an immediate change or does it fall in line with the CA law (2023)?
Never before in the history of man have lives less lived been more chronicled. - Dennis Miller
Chase Young Kroger commercials and Tommy Togiai doing Bob Evan's Bratwurst
Does Bob Evans need a new breakfast champion?
Given the service levels in the ones around me, as well as recent views of how empty their parking lots are during most business hours, they need something.
We ate at a Bob Evans a couple of weeks ago, for the first time in forever. And, that's about how long it will be before I feel compelled to return.
I used to love the place, and if the food isn't screwed up, I still do love it. We occasionally get carryout (though probably haven't in a year), but man, to go and sit down inside is to court frustration.
That campaign did not go well for them at all.
What'd they air, one commercial of that campaign before the ZS stuff blew up? Wonder how much they lost on it.
Rooster's should rename their Nu-Killer sauce "Chase Young's Predator Sauce"
The slogans are endless:
As long as pigs are flying, maybe a defensive player can win the Heisman?
Smith said Tuesday that the NCAA's new rules would not follow the "California model" of a virtually unrestricted market.
huh? Can someone please clarify what the distinction is from the califronia bill?
NCAA is saying its going to allow athletes to profit from the name, image, likeness, and that is exactly what the california bill allows too.
how is NCAA going to 'restrict' the market, so to speak.
Basically, anything goes South of the Ohio River and East of the Mississippi....the rest of the country will have ambiguous rules in a book 5,000 pages deep, that will only allow a Student Athlete to make no more than $100/year off their likeness.
At least the SEC bagmen can get some public advertising for their businesses now.Billy Ray’s Septic Tank and Catfish Pond Service sponsoring Mississippi State #62 every year!!!!!
Really no choice in it I guess. Given laws were changing, they were going to have to do it. Faster than I thought they would though. Curious what the specifics are.
This is the right move. Will it have consequences for the sport of football? Yes. Will some of said consequences be negative? Also yes.
Still it had to happen. The past/present situation where student athletes' likenesses and names are used to generate huge profits for the university that they can't touch was always indefensible.
Edit: Also basically Tattoogate is now even less of a thing than it ever was.
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Yeah. Can we have our 2010 wins back including the sugar bowl win over S-E-C team
LOL Dabo. Ok.
Dabo Swinney says he may quit college football if players get paid https://t.co/dIhwfXGAQP pic.twitter.com/MxwEjJdSYW
— NBC Sports (@NBCSports) May 18, 2019
Fields of Dreams
Dabo can teach future proctologists the Clemson Technique after he walks away from football
Dabo is such a phony.
1000% fakest dude in sports.
He can go coach the local high school team then.
LOL at Dabo acting like guys don't get paid.
He's just upset - this will cost him his recruiting advantage. Now honest programs can out bid him.
Dawn of a new era. I’m happy for the players - they’ve earned it and here in the Big Ten we should tip the cap to the Northwestern Nerds for their pivotal role in drawing attention to the issue years ago.
I have to think this will give an advantage to schools in places like Palo Alto, Eugene, Austin, Columbus, Atlanta and similar with more deep pockets. All you’ve got in Tuscaloosa, Blacksburg, Lincoln, Clemson, Starkville, etc are car dealerships.
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
Also, does Houston become a super power now? Their main booster (I forget his name) hasn't been shy about using his billions of dollars to support his hometown team.