Eleven Warriors Roundtable: Badgers In Trouble

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Loss aside, Badgers are still a good team and should be a tough out. They’re big and physical and tough up front on D. I say should because if we boat race them you know we’ll hear the loss to Illinois narrative. Either way, this will easily be the toughest test yet and the weather may be on their side - if that’s possible. Win the one in front of you Bucks - the rest will work itself out. 
edit; Dobbins shows he’s the better back, we find our TEs, and pick Coan x2. Final 42-17 Good Guys  

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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BennyOhio's picture

Agreed, also I think that the forecast calling for rain helps Wisconsin a bit. Rain could slow our passing offense down, while incentivize Wisconsin to keep doing what they do best... run the ball.

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BuckingRight's picture

I'm not worried about the rain. I have a feeling our O will jump ahead and our D will dominate; forcing Wisky to play catch-up, which means they have to pass in the rain, which means our D does even better. OSU battles for the first couple of drives, then coaching makes adjustments and pulls ahead. OSU 42-10

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buckeyetodd92's picture

Honestly, the forecast is a big worry for me. I think it hurts our passing game, depending on how hard it's raining and how much wind there is. But I think I'm emotionally scarred from that Michigan State game in the hurricane-like weather from a few years ago. I'm hoping we go up early and force Wisconsin to play from behind, but I'm nervous about how the rain will impact our efficiency.

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Starburst Buckeye's picture

I think the rain helps Ohio State. Wisconsin doesn't have a QB that can run while Ohio State does. Fields added threat as a runner can give OSU an extra running option in a game where passing may be very difficult.

It always seems impossible until it's done.
~Nelson Mandela~

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Coan isn’t as fast as Fields but he can run if he needs to. 

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avail31678's picture

But doesn't rain affect their mediocre passing game as well?  If Wisky is predictably running over and over (due to weather or otherwise), I don't see them doing well.  

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brothadudeguy's picture

Exactly. Rain and wind is a huge advantage for OSU. Coan might be taken out of the game completely while Fields has the arm strength to spin the ball through rain and wind. Fields can also run the ball himself which isnt in Coans game. Osu can load the box and stop taylor. Cant do that against fields.

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awlinBrutus's picture

This isn’t Meyer’s/Warinner’s offense anymore. Day will attack just like he has all year. Wisconsin will be playing in the same conditions so meh on the rain. I think we will see a renewed effort to stop the run this week, something we didn’t see much last year, the defense stepping up after a below average showing last week. Wisconsin and their coaches are totally different on the road. Paul Chryst coaches not to lose, chrystball if you will, just with a bunch of 2* & NR players. ttun isn’t a miraculously improved team from last year. same DB’s and a weaker front 7, so that game really doesn’t tell us a lot imo. OSU 45 Wisconsin 19. Fields connects early and often and Teague finishes them off in the 2nd half.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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droessl's picture

Wisconsin can't handle this team's hot, nasty, bad-ass speed. 

42-13 Bucks

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MeatBichigan's picture

I'd love to believe that the "they haven't played anyone yet" crowd will shut up after a Buckeye win on Saturday, but after Wiscy's loss to Illinois it will be all to easy to spin it as "well aaaactually, Wisconsin isn't really that good, so..." Doesn't matter though as I think most people are coming around and even if you still have doubters, there's nothing to do but just keep winning.

And I really think this quote, "the Badgers will have to pick their poison and likely choke on the option they didn’t pick," sums up any match up against this year's offense.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Agreed. It’s just that a game like this could also make us be somewhat patient, at least for a while; something we really have had to do. But I think once it starts...

Badgers will have to pick their poison and if we handle up front, Olave could have another big day down the field. 

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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Hovenaut's picture

I'll say the Buckeyes cover, close, calling 31-14.

Ohio State needs a fast start, and looking at them to wear down Wisconsin over the course of the game.

Weather is a factor.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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murphdizzl's picture

No talk of the weather. Interesting. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well forecast is 59* w 100% chance of rain. We’ll see. 

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

No direct questions but Dan mentioned it

I'm predicting the Buckeyes will be held to their fewest points of the year, against the best defense they've played and with rain in the forecast

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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murphdizzl's picture

Good catch. I agree weather is going to play a big role. Less passing, less points. 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I submitted my responses on Monday before I really knew about the potential for rain. I don't think I'd change anything though, to be honest. 

3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well I think it’s overblown most times. Both teams have to play in it, whatever the weather is - much like the grass at Nerdwestern. And until it’s over, you can’t really blame anything on the weather so...it is what it is. 

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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Andy Vance's picture

No talk of the weather. Interesting. 

The rain is the reason I pegged Ohio State's score so low, honestly. This is the first time this season I've predicted <42 points for the Buckeyes.

Bukirob's picture

I have been debating with the cluck heads yapping the ole... Who have dey played crap...  When looking at the top 6 ranked teams Ohio State opponent record is WELL OVER .500  27-21 and the only other team that can say that is PSU who opponents have a 24-23 record.

When OSU wins comfortably over Wisconsin the chuckleheads will inanely yap that Wisconsin "isnt that good."  Then it will be the same for PSU and of course beating Michigan will not be all that good... OSU doesn't really belong is what the cluck head moron will chortle all the way to the Championship game... then it will be "well, they got lucky."

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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Sanantonefan's picture

Just. Win. All. The. Games.

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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NewPhilaFan's picture

And the opponents have a record of 27-14 when taking out the Buckeye beatdowns.

Let's Go Bucks

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Sanantonefan's picture

59-0 Bucks

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Ohio State is good. Very good. Championship caliber good. I see them winning going away 45-6. JK and Fields will help the offense rack up over 500 yards and the defense will make Wisconsin's offense look very pedestrian. 

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TMac's picture

Rain - I still think the Buckeyes can run on Wisky more than Taylor can run on the Silver Bullets. But it does hurt our passing game more than their dink & dunk -- which just makes it a little closer, but the Bucks still win by 21 or more. 

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Starburst Buckeye's picture

The threat of a QB run from Fields can negate some of that concern though. Having an extra wrinkle in the running game that Wisconsin doesn't have will help.

It always seems impossible until it's done.
~Nelson Mandela~

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buckeye phi's picture

Considering the predicted conditions and the caliber of Wisconsin's defense, I think this may be the week Coach Day unleashes his quarterback's full potential as a runner.  Even though Fields has already proven that he's quite a threat in the rushing attack, I believe we'll see more designed QB runs and of course, read option plays tomorrow. 

This is exactly the kind of match-up Day has been "saving" Fields for (at least, as a major component in the running game).  I could easily see Dobbins and Fields finishing with well over a hundred yards each.  This is in spite of the fact that the Badgers' secondary looks like the weakest (not the fastest DBs we'll see) part of their D. 

We may need every tool in the toolbox for this one -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

I expect K.J. Hill to have a huge effect early in the game with the quick hitting short to intermediate stuff due to the aggressiveness of Wiscy's defense. That will force them to back off a little which will open up the first level running lanes as well as give Fields more time to go deep.

Should be another strong 2nd quarter by the Buckeyes and heavy rain (+ Silver Bullets) in the second half kills any plans Wisconsin has of coming back, while Dobbins and Teague eat up yards.

Buckeyes 34, BADgers 7 (there's a reason they're not called the Goodgers)

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Sheridanclan11's picture

I believe people are underestimating the effect that rain will have on this game. On a dry field, I believe we win by 28 as we have too many athletes. On a wet field, I believe we will be lucky to win by 10. 

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Brandon26841's picture

I'm trying to remember a game where it pretty much poured the entirety of the game that wasn't a lower scoring, sloppy affair for the most part and I'm drawing a blank. When has a team put up 40+ points in a game like that? I'm still seeing score predictions in the 40's left and right. It's not impossible, but I'm with you in thinking that many are underestimating the rain's impact in this one. 

But also, maybe it doesn't pour. If that's the case then I don't think it'll be a huge factor. 

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BucMan's picture

Wiscy has an awesome team with hard charging bulls on both sides of the ball.  But Urban hit it on the head when he said you can't just look at numbers, you have to look at the competition.  We win this "best team we/they've played this year" line, and put up another 40 point game!

Year for what?

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SpringtuckyBuck's picture

Style points are a cherry on top with a game like this. Home field should be enough of a difference. Just win with hopefully few injuries.

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Steelydan54's picture

Tight ends. Good in the rain and for picking up third downs. And lots of RPO. Badgers start strong but we get our 21 in second quarter. Bucks win 44-13. 

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MGOBLUE0205's picture

Rain would be the only reason OSU doesn't get to 40+ points. I'm not buying Wisconsin's defense as being really good. The best offense they have faced this year is Michigan's, and that was at a time when Michigan's offense was really struggling. So while Wisconsin shut down Michigan's recievers for the most part, OSU has more innovative ways to get their playmakers the ball, and they are much faster. Factor that in with a much better run game, if the rain holds off OSU scores at least 42. I'll say 42-21 with Wisky scoring a garbage TD late. I'm not sure if there's any Buckeye fans worried about this game....They shouldn't be. A one dimensional offense isn't going to beat this improved OSU defense nearly enough to keep pace. That is why I don't think OSU loses this year(Until maybe the playoffs). The defense while maybe not elite, is good enough to shut down every team on the schedule. Barring any injuries or crazy 5 turnover games, your best chance for a loss is probably in Ann Arbor. Lol and we all know that's not going to happen. What's funny to me is, there's actually Michigan fans not convinced OSU is as good as you've looked. Their argument is you haven't played a good team yet. These fans are looking forward to tmrw because they actually believe Wisconsin will show kinks in the Buckeye armor. And while I agree your schedule hasn't been really tough(not your fault these schedules are made years before) the way you're beating teams should tell these fans Michigan has a long ways to go. I've already tried telling them we'll be lucky to get to 20pts on Sparty, whereas you guys had 20 before halftime correct? But to no avail, they will learn the hard way.

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