He's definitely more consistent in terms of production. Surprised he had that drop on a potential td against MSU where he jumped for now reason
He more than made up for the drop with the catch and run TD on the next drive.
He did, but honestly he has been so good this year that the drop was jarring in the first place. He has had sure hands with harder catches than that. Not knocking the guy, but in a way it is being a victum of your own success.
It's nice he's playing well, but that drop was brutal. so he's definitely consistently himself. makes crazy great plays, and sometimes makes mistakes.
I have also noticed some of our receivers tend to jump to catch the ball when it's really not necessary. Unless I'm just not seeing how high the pass really is.
That’s poor coaching and if they refuse to change let them ride the pine.
Yeah, Hartline has proven he is a poor coach. Fire him!
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Your eyes aren’t deceiving you. But as a former WR I used to do it all the time. It was just like a nervous tick that I couldn’t shake. Sometimes it’s more comfortable getting up to a level where you can haul it into your pads rather than taking the chance of it ricocheting off of your hands. It’s just the safe route sometimes.
I believe it's a mechanism that a lot of inexperienced players use. As you jump and leave the ground your motion becomes smoother; your feet aren't hitting the ground and jarring your head, and you don't have to worry about your feet anymore. It allows you to take UT more mental energy towards making the catch.
When you run your vision is rocked, the helmet bounces, etc.
Thats one reason why Devin Smith was so good at making the play for the ball on deep passes in stride, if you watch his helmet it stays perfectly level instead of moving up and down as he runs. Smooth running allowed him to spot the ball more easily because his head wasn't bumping around.
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If he's so consistent why did he drop that pass in the first quarter last week?
Seriously though Victor has come on in a big way this year. He's always had tons of potential that never quite came together and it seems like this year its finally happening. Also, he's a freaking wizard after the catch. That TD against Penn State last year and the TD this last weekend are both incredible plays after making the catch.
I remember when we were recruiting him. Had really big hopes. Imagine if we had Hartline when he arrived here. Great improvement has been made and he will leave here with a great set of video highlights. Hoping the NFL takes him earlier than expected. That would be nice.
if he has eligibility left, he really should consider staying for another year. He'll definitely boost his draft stock if he continues to improve and solidify himself at the next level, which he has demonstrated that he can do.
Really, he has had a good year. I think it made the drop against MSU more jarring. Since he has made harder catches look easy this year and at times last year.
Seemed to make up for it with that catch and run. He also is one of those guys that is "deceptively" fast. He just looks like he is eating up ground but is not moving that fast. Despite leaving guys in his dust. Very good player.
Didn't he come in at 160? He is better now because he worked at it. Campbell put in a ton of hours too. I love having him on the field.
180 I believe.
Back in August, I started writing a Forum topic, "Bin Victor is Bigger, Stronger This Season," but then couldn't find any good summer/fall 2019 images to prove my point. I posted it, anyway, and took some well-deserved ribbing from the commentariat.
Well, thankfully, the two still images (above) in this article really show how much Victor has grown. Keep in mind that he arrived on campus as an absolute beanpole.
He's better, but I'm still not convinced on consistency. I hope he convinces me throughout the year
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70% pass completion rate and you're not convinced about his consistency?
Number one, win the rivalry game. And number two, win every game after that.
Love hearing this kind of thing about our more veteran players. It's also good to know that our coaches are willing to exploit the match-up nightmares a receiver like Victor presents to opposing defenses.
Reading what Coach Day had to say about the X receiver needing to win his one-on-one match-ups made me think back a few years.
There were more than a few 11Wers who kept wondering why we didn't just keep throwing to Michael Thomas until defenses were forced to take a man out of the box to provide help to the poor kid tasked with trying to cover him. In most cases, it was a complete mismatch against a given corner without such help. Imagine how much that would have opened up our already solid running game - not to mention the rest of our receivers -
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers
Ben Victor has been fun to watch this year. He does seem to be playing with more consistency and I'm hoping he'll continue to help us especially in big games (Wisconsin, Penn State etc..). Hartline has been doing wonders with our talented receivers and we seem to be set at the position for the indefinite future, which is always comforting. Go Bucks!
He's improved a lot and flashes at times. He still has a long way to go to have any chance at the next level though. I'm happy for him. Fans, myself included, have been very critical of him.
I remember reading on here when Coach Coombs was giving Bin some grief... Man we have gone through some personnel!
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B Vic is great ONCE he catches the ball!!!!
He had to improve, he's wearing my number...my Little League numbah!
It is good that his hard work is paying off. If his consistency continues to improve, he will be a huge weapon during the stretch run to the natty.
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He's clearly a wildly talented athlete, but he's the offensive player that drives me the most crazy. He still doesn't catch the ball with his hands. His catches usually happen when they come into his body. He's also the weakest of the outside blockers.
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The tuck-fake by Fields on the TD was sick. More of that, please.
And if the DB stays with receiver and Fields runs around the corner, HE could take it to the house as well. Really looking forward to the plays Day/Wilson roll out in second half of the season. One or two new plays/concepts per week will give DCs in the B1G insomnia for the next two months. BV is coming along nicely. When he catches the ball, you better get him in the ground quick, cuz about 3 steps and he is gone!
Victor's 3 steps cover about 15 yards so, yep, he may go.
Agreed UVA ran a nice wrinkle with that play tonight . When you have a mobile qb skies the limit
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Assuming he plays as well or better second half, is there any doubt he gets drafted? He looks really good this year.
Seems like Victor’s step up is route running. He’s got major separation on almost every catch this season. In contrast Mack seems to always make extremely difficult catches with a man draped all over him.
Anyone else see this?
Agreed St Pete ! Mack makes great catches and he’s clutch on 3rd and long . I wish he could get more YACs.
Who do want to make a spectacular catch/TD when it's all, and I mean ALL on the line?
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Going into this year I was hoping he never played a down. The PSU play was great and he bobbled that pass too and if he wasn't in on that play maybe another receiver would of done the same. He has improved a ton but still not very clean and makes other bone head mistakes. What surprises me more than anything is why Harris hasn't passed him over by now. Lastly Z.Smith did what he did but the guy was a good coach here and recruiter too. Until wife beating gate came out I never heard much complaining about his part on the staff. For that matter Hartline is coaching guys for the most part are Zack's kids and each year all players get better so who knows. It seems Hartline will be a improvement but Zack was a good coach. jmo
It's a fair observation. One can be good at one's craft and at the same time make serious personal mistakes that are socially not acceptable (some acts should not be socially acceptable in any circumstances). They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Chevy Chase was a great comedian and actor, but everyone who's ever worked with him thought he was the worse selfish and narcissistic prick who treated everyone like sh*t.
My opinion on Zach Smith is that he was a fine coach, but not a great one. If you look at our receivers now they are running routes more precisely, they are catching with their hands instead of bringing it in to their pads, and they get open with ease.
A couple years ago our guys weren't doing this as easily or as frequently.
Yes, players get better with time so that has to be taken into account as well as the limitations of past QBs compared to Haskins/Fields that are throwing these receivers open everywhere on the field. But our receivers are playing above their age at this point (look at Wilson and Olave to start), and doing things that a lot of guys don't get until they are at the end of their college careers.