Mattison is a heck of a coach. Still feels odd to say that, you’d have never heard it from me this time last year. Being honest with recruits and getting these young men to buy in has to be a difficult part of the job. Happy as hell to see the emphasis on keeping the top talent in State. Easy to route for a born Buckeye.
It’s pronounced “Thee”.
With the transfer portal, it will be much more necessary for upperclassmen to talk to these incoming freshmen to explain the way that Division I football is actually run. Some will need some humble pie and realize that they may have been the man at their respected school, but so was everyone else on the roster. If their a prima donna, they enter the portal, if not, they compete for their goal of playing for The Buckeyes. Go Bucks
If somebody is from the state of Ohio, then they’re gonna have a leg up on anybody else in the country in recruiting because this is their home state and they grew up being a Buckeye, so that matters,” Day said Tuesday.
Funny, because some of us have been told we’re stupid / antiquated / ignorant because we’ve said for a long time now that Ohio players should take priority over players from out of state when the talent is equal or close to equal. Being from Ohio, growing up with scarlet and gray running through your veins... it means something. The program / traditions / history mean more when it’s personal as opposed to simply being viewed as the best pathway to the NFL.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
I maybe one that talks about the Ohio kids vs the world when it comes to recruiting more than most on here. I have never said anyone is stupid because we all have opinions on the matter. I pretty much echo Day in what he said Ohio kids come first over other kids from other states BUT only if they have the talent and fit the team chemistry. Many on here think Ohio kids will play harder than someone else from Kentucky lets say. That's not true players that come here have a dream for the NFL and all are going to play as hard no matter where they are from. Out of state kids might not have the history and how important ttun rivalry is all about but it doesn't take long to learn and figure it out. Day and other coach's are not Ohio born either but learn quickly what that game means and whats at stake in THE GAME. Lets take Styles as a example and I have taken a hit on this one. Many here want him to be in his class because he is the number 4 or 5 player in Ohio and from what I hear want's to play wr fine. So do we take him because he is from Ohio or take a player or two that are more talented than him at wr? We have a good shot of getting a couple others higher on the ladder. Styles from what the experts say defense is his position that's best for him and not offense. So my point if we take him and he doesn't cut it on offense and doesn't want to switch now you have a unhappy kid that will create problems or trans fer. Bottom line in Ohio recruiting there hasn't been a lot of Ohio kids that wanted to play here we missed out on that have gone on to great things and even a few that did we had a oos kid do as well or better. Recruiting is not perfect we missed a couple and the NFL draft misses a lot too and do more evaluating.
Priority or leg up (whatever that really means)?
Don't forget his other statement. I am going to guess that he means that if the fit is right and the talent level is the same, the kid from Ohio gets in, but if he is not the right fit or isn't as talented, he won't get it.
“I just think you have to look at who you think fits your roster at that time,” Day said. “Who’s good enough to play? Ideally, you’d have as many Ohio guys as you can have, but sometimes it just kind of fluctuates based on the talent you have in that recruiting class, and you do the best you can to go recruit the best at each position that fit here. That’s another part of it – who are the guys that fit?”
1) Joe Burrow was in because he was from Ohio (over some kid from Cali, I think, who was valued on the same level).
2) Almost all of the arguments are PICK OHIO KIDS versus PICK NATIONAL KIDS, with no regard to the whole "if they're equal talents." It's probably lying beneath the surface but not properly written. For example, I tend to fall into the National crowd, but that's essentially "pick the national kid if he's better," which some people still have a problem with, and why a lot of people get lumped into the National First group.
Why has interest waned in Najee Story?
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It’s evidently AJ Kirk, not Story. He said the latter, not former
Also interested, he said the latter two as in both story and kirk
He did say latter two referring to Story and Kirk.
Nick, what did you hear and do you agree? I think story can grow into a great college DE.
Grammar 101 people. He mentioned Story first then Kirk. Then he said the interest has waned with the latter, which is Kirk. Story = former, Kirk = latter
...in addition to Styles, defensive end Najee Story and safety A.J. Kirk – though I've heard interest in the latter two has waned quite a bit.
The latter TWO. Story and Kirk are the latter TWO in the paragraph. Interest has waned in Story and Kirk.
I’m loving the irony of this comment
It was posted yesterday that fans who have followed Story say he is not OSU worthy and his ranking will drop a lot just repeating what was posted.
Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
The problem with this recruiting philosophy is that ohio state has a huge alumni/nae base many of whom don’t live in ohio. I believe we definitely should get the top players from ohio but we absolutely need to stick with the National recruitment as well. There have been only 2 programs on our level in the past 10 years and it is because ohio state is not just ohio’s university but it is the nation’s university as well
"faith seeking understanding” (fides quaerens intellectum)
I find it hard to believe that Story is not much of interest to OSU now all of a sudden. Kid is a stud and he will be part of the 2021 class
Greene said the other day that he thought from the beginning that he thought story was a 3* and that recently Osu may be thinking the same.
Here is a couple other things that plays into this I have been following OSU since 1960 and the recruiting trail since the 70's. Ohio at one time was a top 7 state talent wise but population has fallen off and with that less kids to select from as the talent level agree or not has fallen off with that. To prove that look in the last ten years and see how many Ohio kids make the top 200 or 300 list compared to other states. The numbers are down from the 70's when I got into the recruiting. Another thing this is hind sight but imagine if we were more national back in the day a couple more NC's may have come our way. Good luck telling Woody that and even then Ohio didn't have every position covered from year to year but what made us get by was you didn't have a limit on how many kids you could recruit. OSU being the only true power in state Woody would stock pile kids when you had a nice class at certain positions. There was also no early entry to the NFL and unless a kid transferred they stayed 4 years and the ones that left probably did you a favor. Which brings us to Urban and being the coach he is could go any place to recruit which has opened the door that OSU never really had in most states and with the roll he was on and Day seems to be following OSU has become a big hit every place other than Ohio and a hand full of states we use to recruit in. Lastly going back to population has anyone ever noticed how many players we have recruited from other states that were originally from Ohio in their early years and still have family in Ohio. One must go were there is work. Massillon has dropped in classification Warren Canton and other towns have fewer high schools. With that means more kids have less chance to play some develop late and if your not playing you quit the game but maybe could of been a star with coaching and a chance to play if there were more schools and teams.
Just tuned in to Bill K and he predicts 26 to 27 in this class and has Stroud to be one of them and that would make 23 our kicker won't be on ship right away so we would still be at 22 number wise with Stroud. I predict more leaving one way or the other so Siebert will get a ship too jmo. Long story short 4 or 5 more maybe. One or two rb's same at db and a dl might round it out? There is always the mystery player that pops up most years too.
I saw Ben Christman at the game on Saturday Night, he was standing in the portal which is a slight no-no and I was about to go ask him to move when my co-worker is like, "Do you know who that is?" I said "No, who is he?" He said that's Ben Christman. We figured he could stand wherever he wanted for a while before it became a problem.
The only good thing about The Game is winning it - Urban Meyer