Five Things: Ohio State Runs Over Michigan State to Remain Unbeaten

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JTstan16's picture

Can we talk about how Fields had a grown man on his knees? Definitely missed having a QB who can do things like this. Also loved how he was bouncing off DBs all night. No more sliding, big boy football time!

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

While that was definitely a special move/play showcasing his athleticism, I felt myself cringing a bit more last night. He had already taken his share of hits when he took perhaps the hardest hit at the goal line. Realizing you can’t hold a stallion back, and far be it for me to question Dr Day, but I think I’d rather see Master get a shot there to punch it in. 

A lion sleeps in every man, dissatisfaction moves him,  complacency keeps him asleep.

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JTstan16's picture

The only hit I was really nervous about was the sack he took late in the 4th towards his knees, which was borderline dirty. Day should've had Chug in the game since MSU was punting on 4th down. Literally no reason for him to be out there that late with the game over. Other than that, he's a big tough dude. He'll be fine. 

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LoufromOSU's picture

He was checked for a concussion after the TD run that 3yd is referencing. It was an unnecessary risk.

"Great moments are born from great opportunities."  - Herb Brooks

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Extramedium's picture

He’s a football player, we need to stop acting like he can be effectively protected while continuing to let him play to his strengths

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I can literally think of one reason; Fields is in the Heisman race.  We can argue whether this is a good idea, but there is a literal reason.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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PhillyNut's picture

I think that was partly to see if Fields could keep his td via pass and run game streak alive.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Berg2004's picture

I think the simplest explanation is that Day wanted a lot of the starters to experience playing a full 60 minutes.

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cledaybuck's picture

I think it was more he wanted to put the game away with a TD.

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keith7456's picture

That dude had to stay on the ground for a bit to try and find his jock that he most definitely lost during that play. 

Fields is not your typical small fast running QB. He's a big dude and can take some shots(not that we want him to.) He is bigger than most DBs and some LBs so he is not just going to go down easy. Think of JT Barrett power with 4.4 speed. That is scary for defenses.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

I loved that juke, it was Braxtonesque.

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buckeye1964's picture

besides shaun wade knocking the crap out of any spartan close to him who had the ball - my favorite play last night when dobbins had a nice run down the left sideline and could have went out of bounds - he didn't. he ran over a spartan DB for a few extra yards - i heard that collison......thats' football.

danny

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huffdaddy's picture

Respect to Sparty. They are often out-talented but they play hard and tough. 

Clearly, Day is determined to run the ball and keep after it even if we get stopped early. That kind of bully ball is going to be key against PSU and TTUN in November. 

A good win. Now, let's make it through next week with no stupid teenage decisions!

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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keith7456's picture

Okudah is going to be a 1st rounder this coming year and then Wade will be one next year. The true DBU will continue to produce.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I have bad news for you, Wade is going to be joining Okudah as a 1st round pick in April.

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JTstan16's picture

Right. Wade is definitely leaving even if he gets a 2nd round grade. That's what we get for being the real DBU :(

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buckeye1964's picture

i don't see wade staying at all - he's first round material now.

danny

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Everyone is going to talk about Wade defeating Jordan Reid's block or getting the sack because they were outstanding plays, but I don't think either of those was even the best play of the day.

The absolute best play last night also goes to Sean Wade. It was the 2nd half and Sparty called the perfect play of a screen pass to the right flat against a blitz by the silver bullets. With the ball in the air Sparty had 3 blockers in front of the RB with only 3 buckeyes between him and the goal line. Schematically, that should have been a walk-in touchdown. Instead, Sean Wade darted to the RB and drew 2 blockers to stop him (it was a WR and either the right-tackle or a TE). On its own occupying 2 blockers so another team member could make the tackle and save the TD would have been a great play by Wade. But he did even better than that by splitting the blockers and making the tackle himself for a short gain.

Wade single-handedly turned what, on paper, should have been an easy TD and killed the play dead with his game-breaking skills.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Good call, Wade definitely saved a TD there. Much like Chase Young singlehandedly saving a TD when no one covered White into the flat, but instead of completing a short pass for a walk in TD, Lewerke overthrew him because Young was in his face immediately. You won't see it in a stat sheet though. 

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RBurgundy4's picture

Wade's instincts are off the charts. He has tremendous feel for what an offense is trying to do and plays with excellent anticipation. In other words, straight baller.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Imagine where Wade would be if he hadn't sat out his Freshman season with that abdominal surgery. He had an entire season of no football, but you can't tell. 

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buckeye1964's picture

RB - whoever disagreed with you should never be allowed to discuss football again.

danny

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Extramedium's picture

It was probably a couple people uncomfortable with their understanding of the term “straight baller”

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Looks like it was just a fat finger.

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buckeye1964's picture

that was amazing. wade shucked that O-lineman off of him like he was a child. i thought that was going to be big play for the spartans - wade reminds me of one of those great, tough DBs from the 70s - a corner who can cover; lay big hits; AND can tackle.

danny

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Day-310's picture

Agreed, that was amazing. I was cringing while hopeless watching the play develop, then he snuffed it beautifully!

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

I wonder if Munford needs some rest or time to heal a little if Alabi would slide over to the left. Hopefully all are well and we don't need to worry about that. Is NPF still a strong consideration ?

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

That TD pass to Victor was one of the best executed plays I've seen in a while. It was brilliant. 

The way Victor and Fields sold it was simply perfect. They got every one of those fish to bite. 

Now, in the end zone, the MSU defenders and Austin Mack were all silly for not pouncing on the ball. Had that been ruled a fumble, the recovery could have been a game changer. Mack did pick the ball up, but I was just surprised no one jumped on it quicker. In those plays, a clear recovery of the football is the deciding factor. It was either going to be a touchback and turnover, or a TD. 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I thought the same thing about the ball in the endzone thing.  What happened to "See the ball on the ground, jump on the ball"? 

Tulsa did that yesterday versus SMU and picked up an easy TD on a kickoff.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Frimmel's picture

Whistle had blown by the time it came down on the endzone. "Clear recovery" is an NFL thing. I f it wasn't a touchdown it was out of bounds before the endzone. 

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Actually, Victor came back inbounds and picked the ball up. Mack was still standing there.

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CarolinaBuck's picture

I've been kind of skeptical of our D since the start of the season. I've wondered how you go from a defense that was repeatedly shredded last season, and with almost the same personnel, become dominate. I think MSU showed some kinks in our armor. MSU found easy pickings in the middle of the field between out LB drop and the safeties. MSU also had too much success on crossing routes including one where there were two wide open receivers for easy TD's which Lewerke missed. A ton of dropped passes by their RB and a couple of alignment penalties negating big plays all benefited the Buckeyes. This was a good test for the D. I don't know if this is a championship calibre defense, but they know where their weaknesses are. The only question is can they remedy them.

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Dillon G's picture

It was bad coaching. 

#walkaway

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Bad coaching, and terrible scheme, which falls on the coaches.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Dillon G's picture

Many here seem to have a hard time saying the beat coach Ohio State ever had in our lifetime, maybe ever, also held the team back with coaches like Zack Smith, Tim Beck, Bill Davis, and even Schiano. Meyer went 10 steps forward, and 3 back hiring friends and not firing bad ones.

#walkaway

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Yep. It’s an art not a science. Leading people is tough. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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buckeye1964's picture

i've been saying that all this season- this buckeyes team under Day and his new coaches seems like a comletely different team: the coaches are all GOOD and they MAKE ADJUSTMENTS during the game. i've also said, for all the good urban did - he underachieved with the talent he had on his osu teams - we should have won 3 NC - not 1.

danny

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I  don’t know when finding something to complain about in a blow out win has become a thing, but it definitely is a thing.  It is almost as if some expect Ohio State to win every game 58-0.  You do realize the other team has some good players, is well coached, and they are trying to win too?  Also, you probably should have noticed that college football has changed the last decade or so, and even the best teams win games with high powered offenses with defenses that count stops *(at least one more than the other guy).  Gone are the days where shutdown defenses hold other good teams down completely.  That said, MSU got 10 points.  This is just complaining to hear yourself complain.  Too bad you won’t let yourself enjoy the ride, too busy fretting about imaginary problems that may or may not be an issue in the future. 

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

To this point, the biggest takeaway I had last night regarding the defense is that I don't see many, if any, teams grinding the clock and sustaining long drives. 

The only way to beat this defense is with big chunk plays, and those come in limited fashion. Any competent team will have coaches and players that can go get 10-14 points on you, but stopping teams from getting 30+ is the name of the game in today's CFB world. And, in this regard I think that defense is elite.

There is room for improvement, and I think they're going to take advantage of the bye week to do just that - get better. 

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buckeye1964's picture

great comment - wish i could upvote it 10 times.

danny

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Nutinpa's picture

You can do both, fear.  I am enjoying the ride immensely, but an honest fan could see (right in front of me fromC deck) that Sparty made crucial mistakes that we benefitted from.  Crossing routes were often wide open. There were patches of time for which Lewerke went completely untouched and protected by a very young line.  

Bottom line:  it was a satisfying win, no doubt.  But a little bit of armchair nitpicking doesn’t make someone a miserable fan.  It just makes them a fan, that’s all.  

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Buckeye3M and I see eye to eye.  Last year’s defense was an unmitigated disaster and I knew we weren’t a championship team because of it.  That isn’t the case this year at all.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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buckeye1964's picture

nutinpa - so, you're saying all you want to do is find reasons to complain unless the team plays a perfect game (and very seldom do teams play perfect games)? 

and yes, when you want to complain about things like you're doing - it makes you sound EXACTLY like a miserable fan.

danny

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Nutinpa's picture

You're not much of a deep thinker, are you, 64?   It's ok.   And sleep well knowing I am not miserable at all.  Just a fan.  

Have a great week. 

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Iwannagobacktoohiostate's picture

Win the lottery. Payout is $1.6M after taxes. Wife looks at you, “upset” mind you, and rants, “how can we live on only $1.6M”. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Ha ha funny.  Sign of the times I guess.  

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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buckeye1964's picture

so true. i was shocked when i came on here last night and half of the comments were negative about the win. and yea, some were saying it wasn't a good performance because we didn't score 50+........it's kind of disappointing  to read those kinds of comments.

danny

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I probably need to stop letting bottom 20% of base annoy me.  This is just sports in the new millennium I guess.  Me, I am stoked to watch this team every week.  Glad you are too Buckeye 64 (I was born in 70, both of us probably have been around long enough to vividly remember the nineties).

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

The other way to look at it is all Baron Browning needs to do is get 2 steps further back in his pass-set drops and he could have had two PBUs or INTs last night.

Glass half empty says we gave up 2 big plays over the middle, glass half full says we're a small and easy coachable-adjustment away from 2 extra INT/PBUs.

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armynurseboy's picture

Zone D gives up the short plays to prevent big plays. That's the sacrifice you make. Clearly, this staff would rather let the opponents O grind it down the field than to get gashed with huge gains.

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Extramedium's picture

Dominant... why does no one seem to know this word

anyways there’s no reason to be skeptical of the defense when it is made up entirely of four and five star recruits.  If anything you should have been skeptical of the coaching and schemes put together last season which caused the 4 and 5 stars to look like unranked players.

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TheVictoryBell's picture

What a second quarter huh? Those touchdowns were electrifying! The Victor play was awesome design and execution. Good to see Luke Farrell get into the end zone and that Dobbins run was special. 

Looks like Zach Harrison is starting to come on. 

Really impressive coaching by Day and the offensive staff. Sparty through all kinds of new wrinkles at them defensively in the first quarter. Day calmly adjusted for a 24 point second quarter. 

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keith7456's picture

Harrison is just next in line freaks @ DE. He has been way more impressive than expected this year.

The rushman package this year might be the best we've had. Young, Z. Harrison, M. Harrison, Smith, Browning all at the line. That is going to be unstoppable.

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buckeye1964's picture

i said this last night - i was very impressed at the defensive wrinkles sparty had to start the game last night. i'd never seen a team do what they were doing on the d-line and it was working. i'm sure glad we now have a headcoach/asst coaches who look to make adjustments before another iowa/purdue situation happens.

danny

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Others may disagree, because of the injury potential, but I was glad to see the starters play a full 60 minutes.  The coaches and the players needed that.  There are going to be some critical games down the stretch where they'll be called upon to play through a lot more, and be a lot more tired than they were last night.  This was a good time to test the legs, arms and backs to see if they can last four quarters against a tough opponent.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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keith7456's picture

Agreed. They need to know what it feels like to play a full game sometime before we get to Wisky/PSU because those games will be 60 minute battles. Especially with a bye week coming next week it was a great time to get guys more gametime. There will most likely be a game or two that we need to make a play in the final mins of the game and we can't be tired.

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JTstan16's picture

A close game in the 4th is different. But last night, if you're gonna keep Fields in that late with the game in hand, hand it off or throw quick passes. Day will learn from this. 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Well, to start the 4th quarter OSU was only up 27-10.  Sparty had shown that they're capable of driving the length of the field at least twice earlier.  So I think we can agree that keeping everyone in for the 11 play, 8- yard drive that ended in a TD to start the quarter was the right call.

Up 34-10, Day put the offensive starters (- Dobbins) back in with 9 min remaining. Still a lot of time. But they were starting at their own 13 yard line.  Not the situation where we want to see Chug or Hoak jump into a game ice cold.  One bad snap, fumbled handoff, bad decision, and Sparty gets an easy TD and some life on the sideline. So they run Teague twice for a first down out to the 26 (as you said, hand it off), Then Day changes it up with a pass to Olave (incomplete). He follows that up with a handoff to Teague - 13 yds and a first down at the OSU 39 yd line. Next play is another handoff to Teague for a loss of 1 yard.  The following play was the strip sack of Fields.

I don't think the playcalling put Fields in that much danger.

Maybe after the Fuller interception you could argue that Day should've pulled fields, but they were only at the OSU 25.  That series was three straight handoffs to Teague for a total of 3 yards (that'll kill your rushing average) but killed a minute and a half of clock.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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tcm1968's picture

You got to pick a lane though. You want to keep them in to get the 4th quarter conditioning then you can't take your foot off the gas. It's human nature to stop playing at 100% when your head Coach shuts things down and Fields could have been seriously injured on that sack. You keep them out there then you keep your foot on the gas..  You call off the dogs then get them out of there.. if the whole idea is to get them some 4th quarter conditioning then run the offense.. 

Go Bucks!

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Iwannagobacktoohiostate's picture

With all of the commercials in the 4th quarter.  Play the 2nd team. At every commercial, have starters (O andD) put on their helmets and run wind sprints for 2 minutes.  

1.  You get conditioning

2.  Fox and ESEcPN show highlights that OSU could win by 40 but  the starters are out in the 4th and conditioning instead. 

         Stupidest post ever, I know it. 

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MDBuckeyes's picture

that would be hilarious to see all the 1s line up for wind sprints at commercial breaks. Maybe that could be our "jump around"?  

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buckeye1964's picture

he didn't "take his foot off the gas" - with around 5-6 minutes left, fields just missed olave on what would have been around a 55yd td pass. 

danny

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DP71's picture

Agree except as to Fields, Chase Young and Dobbins.  Those three should all come-out when we know we have the game won.  The back-up QBs need reps and they could just as easily hand the ball off to Teague.  Also, our back-up OL needs reps.  And, we have numerous great back-up DEs, why keep Young in harms way.

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Hovenaut's picture

Completely agree with this.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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stpetebuck's picture

I hope Arnette gets well. He played a very good tough game.  He’s a tough tackler imo  

I love Teague. Victor is legit. And Borland played well. And we have a deep talented team in every position. (except place kicker)

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sharks's picture

Victor gets an A+ for his effort on the TD, but man, he pulled out the stone hands on the first drive (I believe) when he dropped that pass. Can't be a feast or famine guy and continue to get targets. Has to make that catch.

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Huskerbuck's picture

Grateful for a strong second quarter but the first quarter was a bit unsettling.  Didn't feel we were up to OSU offensive standards for most of the second half as well but a win is a win.  Hopefully MSU's challenging defense will provide a great learning experience as we continue to take them one game at a time. 

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okiebuck's picture

Coach Day made mention in his interview after the game on the field; that he thought they played for 60 minutes for the first time.

The only hard day was yesterday

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Officials are picking on Jackson. Of all his holding penalties I've seen 1 that was blatant. I think the refs personally dont think any guard can be that good so they throw a flag when Jackson mauls someone. That's total bullshit. 

I will say this again, most of our injuries last night were the result of dirty play by Sparty. Glad we punched those POS Spartans in the mouth. Fuck them all.

"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski

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InfantryBuckeye5150's picture

I was impressed at how the offense readjusted themselves after the first quarter. Someone should send the film of this game to Warinner and Beck, advising them that this is how you readapt your offense against a tenacious Mark D’Antonio led defense. 

Well, Columbus wasn't looking for America, my man, but that turned out to be pretty okay for everyone.

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Ronnie's picture

Proctor and Brown played really well in the second half. 

Boom! Boom!

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Tazmanimo's picture

The officiating of this game sucked. For those of you with DVR, go to the fourth quarter at about 3 minutes into the fourth JK got stood up by 3 sparties and Thompson textbook targeted with the crown of his Helmet while an U stood 4 yards away looks on. Six minutes later they negate a fuller's pick6 cause a blind side Browning block that was weak as hell. It was a gentle push that my sister could have handled. If this was a close game, the officiating would have determined the game. I normally dont get all " Harbog" like in my views, but I had to call bullshit on this officiating crew and the NCAA needs to look at them closer.

Tazmanimo

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Not to mention just a few plays before Browning's penalty, Wade was literally tackled in a blindside block from behind on a non-call.

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Extramedium's picture

last season they called targeting when a defender looked at an opposing player the wrong way, and this season they seem to be ignoring it completely.  I haven’t paid too close attention to non-OSU games this season but is targeting down universally?

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DP71's picture

I thought that this was our best game of the year.  MSU is a quantum jump in quality over everyone else we have played, although I still think Cincinnati is a very very good team thanks to Coach Fickel.  MSU has an equally great Coach and a great DC in Tressell.  They also have two legitimate AA candidates in Bache and Willekas.  They have a mobile and courageous QB.  The fact that we racked up 340+ yards on the ground against them was the most impressive thing to me.  Thank you OL, Dobbins and Teague, and Coach Stud!  It will be interesting to see how Wisconsin fares next week.  They have a great RB but not a great QB or passing game. In addition, can we stop calling Teague an "or" back-up.   He is our next great RB and, if possible, we should red-shirt Crowley & Steele who both look very good also.  That would eliminate the need for a 2020 RB.  Finally, why not give NFP a shot at RT or even as back-up at LT?  I like both Bowen and Alabi, but this kid is our future along with Johnson.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I was excited to watch NPF in the first few games but frankly he was below-average.  I think he'll be great one day but right now he's still in the middle of growing into his talents and is a year away from being ready to be trusted with Fields' health (and the hopes for our season).

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tussey's picture

I was actually thinking the same thing.

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fritziebuck's picture

Concerned about the defense.  Sparty was moving the ball easily at times.  Sparty killed themselves with dropped passes.  But, Sparty was moving the ball better than the scoreline indicated, and Sparty's offense is far from high powered.  Yikes!  What happens when we play a high powered offense like Clemson or Oklahoma?   

One correction that needs to be made right now is benching Borland.  

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BuckeyePat's picture

First thing I said on Victors TD was “What a play call”

47-3

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BuckeyePat's picture

Glad he didn’t drop it again

47-3

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I didn't really get a good look at it because I was in attendance, but the play where Jackson was penalized looked more like a textbook pancake to me. My real question is how Michigan State could go a whole game without a holding call of their own.

I totally agree about that sneaky pass to Victor. Perfect time to deploy it too, with the offense in real need of a big play. I almost felt bad for the way that MSU defender got undressed. Almost.

Lewerke is not really a favorite of mine, but he has some experience and was able to find some openings in our zone. I think we have some work to do there, and I worry about how we might hold up against a team with a better pass rush than Sparty. Those who watched the other Big Ten team from up north yesterday might know what I'm referring to there. (Having said that, Willekes ate our lunch a year ago, and we seemed to hold him in check last night.)

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Cybjulie's picture

Was Arnette hurt or jackin his jaw too much? #25 Spartan was a dirty player out there and they seemed to tangle a few times. 

Cybjulie

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Bucksfan0214's picture

Okudah ripped his helmet off after he caught that TD pass and that fired him up..he was just an emotional player...i saw nothing there

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