Washington Coaching Staff Never On Board With Haskins

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Zonabuck's picture

Seeing how their line play has been, I’m fine with Haskins sitting as long as possible. However, I’m not sure why you’d draft Haskins if you had no intention of using him this year. They have a lot of areas where they could use some help. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Tough to find a franchise QB and the value was there for where Haskins fell to. Now they can use a high pick on another position next year and have a QB who is ready to play next season alongside the 2020 pick. The Mahomes route of sitting a year makes a lot of sense for Haskins since he only had one year as a starter in college and is very young even for a rookie QB.

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MaxPowerBucknut's picture

Green Bay drafted Aaron Rodgers with no intention of him playing that first year, or a couple after. Seems to have worked out fine. 

I’d rather he not get killed behind that porous OL. More rookie QBs have been ruined playing early behind a terrible line than sitting for a year or two. 

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youra6's picture

Aaron Rodgers is the exception. Things move faster today than it ever has before. Teams don't just sit on players like they used to. Think about all the highly regarded QBs who came out of college in recent years just sitting on the bench.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Brady, Brees, Palmer, Mahomes didn't start in Year 1. Eli, Goff and Cutler all didn't start until 2nd half of their rookie seasons. Rivers and Rodgers didn't make a start in their first 2 seasons. Between 2017-18 Trubisky, Watson, Mayfield, Rosen and Lamar Jackson didn't win starting jobs out of camp. All depends on the player and the situation. Plenty of QBs have succeeded sitting and plenty have succeeded starting day 1.

A lot of times young guys get in early because the starter gets hurt or the team is so bad they make a switch. Overall it's pretty normal for the plan to be to have the rookie get more practice and study experience and learn behind a veteran. I'm not sure the best plan for Haskins is to throw him to the wolves behind a bad offensive line but I think he will get experience this season.

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Zonabuck's picture

I get what you’re saying, but Rodgers was drafted low in the first round to a good team. Green Bay had Favre at the time, and they weren’t a mess in the way the Redskins are. I’m a huge Haskins fan - I think he improved every week with respect to seeing the D, making adjustments and executing plays that worked, rather than trying for the big plays, and I think he’s just scratched the surface on what he’s capable of. But as bad as the Redskins OL is, I think any young QB would be a sitting duck, and would develop bad habits that would take a bunch of work to undo. Let Keemun get beat up. 

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andretolstoy's picture

I also think the issue isn't that Haskins is riding the pine the first couple of years (which we all agree he should do), rather that the coaches never wanted him and that it's causing a schism between coaching and ownership. 

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stxbuck's picture

Given the fact that they franchised Kirk Cousins for 3 years in a row or whatever, the Redskins brass are obviously willing to slow play QB contracts and development, even to the point of irrationality..........

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USArmyBuckeye's picture

Wouldn’t surprise me at all tbh.  Dan Snyder has a history of being a bit of a bonehead owner. That being said, if they (the coaches) didn’t want Haskins then they need to get their eyes checked. 

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nutabuckas's picture

Baffling to think some people in that organization just aren’t down right ecstatic they picked Dwayne at 15. I say start him now, regardless of how terrible the offensive line is, he is only gonna get better with reps. Once he gets plenty of game experience Haskins will be a gd stud. He is your future Washington! Let him of the leash!

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

The Redskins lose a few more games the scenario could easily be Snyder shit-canning Gruden & Co. and Haskins is the starter, for better or for worse. I'm starting to hate the fact both Dwayne and TMac got drafted by them.

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andretolstoy's picture

Personally, they destroy more QB's, traditionally, than any other team I know. I wouldn't play QB for them.

If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die. 

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Dstacify's picture

The Browns pre-Mayfield still carry that title by a landslide. But the Redskins have been pretty bad with QBs. Their best QB from this decade was Kirk Cousins (who they took three rounds after they drafted RGIII in the same draft which is just comical) and they basically ran him out of town as soon as his rookie deal was up (after a few tours on the Franchise Tag that is) because Snyder cringed at the thought of paying him franchise QB money and replaced him with Alex Smith (instead of drafting a QB like they should've). This year they rectified that mistake by drafting Haskins and now it appears Jay Gruden didn't even want him. If I were a QB I'd have issues trusting this organization from the get go. Snyder has a history of not being willing to financially commit to a franchise QB long term regardless of how well they play (what happened with Cousins is proof of that) and Bruce Allen is just a terrible GM. Snyder also won't fire him because Allen falls into the category of one of his "Yes men." Gruden OTOH, if these Haskins rumors are true (and I suspect they are, I get the sense Gruden values Colt McCoy more than Haskins) I think he gets his pink slip after this weekend if they fall to the Giants.

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MaxPowerBucknut's picture

And Alex Smith (at KC) and Cousins (at Minnesota) had more success, in the playoffs even, after they left Washington than when they were there. 

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lamplighter's picture

Maybe the coaches thought that other needs were more pressing.  NTL, he's there and they need to do whatever they can to get him some o-line protection and ready to play.

Signing Trent Williams would be a start, unless they trade him (Williams that is) to the Browns (pretty please)

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DaiTheFlu's picture

Well, considering the fact that they're 0-3, look like total ass and started Case "5 turnovers" Keenum over the best QB in B1G history, I would give very little creedence to what the freaking Redskins decided to do. A comedy of coaching errors.

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kiester's picture

Considering this coaching staff might be gone after this year, no wonder (if true) that the front office dictated the pick. Haskins is going to be great, but not this year in Washington... not even the holy Tom Brady could help them now. 

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buckbornbred's picture

Haskins was FAR from a finished product coming out of college. Riding the pine for a year will serve him well.

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tcm1968's picture

Haskins needs to sit the entire year. He's not close to being ready. The thing that sucks for him is with the Giants he would have had Eli. Eli is going to do wonders for Jones.. Case Keenum? Colt McCoy? garbage.. Haskins has no one to learn from and he came into the league behind. 

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Dstacify's picture

Keenum and McCoy aren't good QBs by any means but they do have experience starting in the NFL and are considered respected veterans (and Keenum did have one good year as the starter in Minnesota in 2017). To say they're incapable of mentoring Haskins is just not accurate (though Eli is indeed a better mentor than both of them). Also Alex Smith is still in that QB room despite being injured. He also falls into the well-traveled and respected veteran category.

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mizzer's picture

He’s getting paid.  Maybe he’ll be like Steve Young who rode the pine behind Montana and finished his career with a Super Bowl MVP award.

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CandygramForMongo's picture

To be fair, Steve Young ran for his life for a few seasons in Tampa Bay before going to San Francisco.

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MaxItUp's picture

Urban to Washington!

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Dstacify's picture

Not sure switching to an RPO offense with QB runs galore would be beneficial to Haskins (that's not his game). Haskins' success at OSU was more due to Day than Meyer.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Nothing to see here. Haskins saw this and immediately tweeted out #FakeNews.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

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ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

Haskins needs to stay on the bench this entire year unless they run out of QB's on the roster. Work with McLaurin at practice and during the week to help get a feel for what Haskins needs to get better at. We all know he has an elite arm and can sling it but he needs time to understand the nuances of running a NFL offense and being thrown to the wolves and deep end is not the answer. 

Side note, my bigger fear is Gruden will try to prove a point and throw Haskins in the deep end. It's a win win for him, if Haskins succeeds he looks like a genius and saves  his job, if Haskins struggles then Gruden can say look we wasted that pick and I need X, Y or Z to make this team successful. 

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