Luke was a legendary player at Ohio State, and at DeSales as well. Much respect and love for him.
Football is an emotional game, though. He will be fired up and so will his players.
Buckeyes need to be ready, and need to play without any letdowns.
This is one of the things that makes football such a great game.
In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...
Obviously I hope we win but if we have to lose a game I hope it's to him. Not Purdue or Iowa
I hope the fans cheer for Luke fickell once a buckeye always a buckeye
I’m expecting a standing O when they introduce him as Cincy’s HC. He deserves that .
There will be mixed feelings for sure.
If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.
I'll be cheering for him after we win 42-17
Proud of everything this man has done, especially the 2011 season when he was thrown to the wolves. He has represented OSU and Cincinnati with class and respect. Proud he is from our great state.
Your proud of his 2011 record at OSU?
Are you DAFT? DId Fickell have ANY say in the coaching staff that he had to work within 2011? Answer: NO. Did he have ANY say on what the personell was used on the Offensive side of the ball? Answer NO. Did he have any say, any control over offensive play calling in 2011? Answer: NO Fickell was HC in name ONLY. To argue that he was the HC in reality shows you know NOTHING at all about what was going on in 2011
You WIN with people.
Luke's biggest mistake was starting Joe over Braxton. I don't give 2 shits if Braxton was a Freshman, Joe couldn't carry Braxton Miller's jock strap. If Braxton would of gotten the majority of the reps their record wouldn't of been as bad as it was. The year before Luke became head coach Jim lost 2 games, the year after Luke, Urban went undefeated.
I could make the same claim 8 years later and sound like I know what I’m talking about.
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
Except Freshman Braxton Miller was awful. He ran non stop and constantly had games where he threw for sub 100 yards
"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin
I'm sorry this is all spin and rewriting of 2011. There is no way in Hades that Fick didn't have more control than that in title and actual power. Bottom line is he was put in a very tough situation and wasn't ready to steady the ship. Even he'd admit that.
Speaking of spin. That entire narrative that Fickell was a dear in headlights and didn't know what he was doing, was the actual spin. And quite frankly. It was a bunch of crap.
No one claims Fickell was muzzled. He was put in a position over other more experienced coaches literally hand-picked by Tressel. He wasn't just going to dictate to all of them about their position coaching. You looking a hundred kids who just lost their coach, and then the egos of tenured coaches who were most likely wondering why they weren't given the reigns.
We do see eventually that Braxton took over as a starter so Fickell did blow the whistle on an under achieving QB.
We need to be frank here. Tressel had some serious gaps in his coaching staff his final few years. One being on the offensive side where Tress admitted he did most of the offensive calling. Bollman was an excellent Oline coach, but I'm not convinced in his play calling abilities. Not to mention the QB coach at that time, Siciliano. I'm sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy, and I love Tress, but I'm not sure how he gets a coaching gig with virtually no experience at this level coaching arguably the most important position on the field. I mean who was the QB coach for Meyer the last few years? Herman and Day. Is Siciliano even in the vicinity of those two? Siciliano should have been a manager and then sent to cut his teeth in a MAC school or elsewhere. I've said this a hundred times already. But Tressel with his loyalty bonds to coaches was never going to win another Natty again. Meyer kept on some coaches with issues, Tressel did it three-fold worse. And I'm not a Tress-hater. He is my favorite Buckeye coach hands down.
Essentially, Tress had reign over o-calls and coaching the QB. Once he resigned there was a huge gap in Offensive Coaching. Fickell didn't have authority to hire/fire anyone nor was he single handedly going to revamp the offensive.
I'm sure you all remember how raw Braxton was even after the 2011 season in the training days video. Starting Bauserman in the get-go was a no brainer even with how bad he was. So if there any spins or straw men here, it's exactly this.
He was thrown into an impossible situation when he really could have fucked Ohio State over and walked away.
I bleed scarlet...literally
Luke was never going to leave OSU as long as he was offered the head coaching job. That 2011 year was a trial run, and he failed miserably. Down vote me all you want. There are way too many ass kissers on this site.
He was dealt a bad hand and I don't think he was ready for it. Still it was a good learning experience for him. I'm glad he's doing well. Wish him nothing but the best. Sometimes those lessons make you what you become and I think he's doing well
100%. The hand he was dealt was nothing but crap and still just missed out on a winning record.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Then how on earth did Jim only lose 2 games the year before, and Urban went undefeated the year after Luke?
Well for starters, Jim had Pryor and Herron to help score points. While Fickell had Joe Bauserman and a quarterback that had never played a snap of college football. Urban's 12-0 season is considered one of the greatest coaching jobs of all time. I'm not sure you can really compare that season to 2011. Should Braxton have played earlier, maybe, but you should calm down a bit with blaming Fickell for the poor record.
"I love football. I think it is the most wonderful game in the world and I despise to lose." - Woody
When your the head coach it comes with the territory. No question Braxton should of started from the beginning. Joe threw the football everywhere else but on the field at Nebraska.
I looked up Cincinnati's schedule last year, sure Luke went 11-2 last season, those 2 losses were too 2 good teams, they did beat Ohio by 4 points I believe, who ended up with 4 losses, but all the other opponents of Cincinnati's suck. My God UCLA had 9 losses last year. So basically Luke beat 1 decent team last year in Ohio. And yet some are concerned with Cincinnati because they beat the Bruins who suck. If the Buckeyes play the way their capable of playing and quit running of 1st down, I'll take the Bucks by 14-17 point win.
Ohio State still had 4 & 5 star recruits.
People forget how poor the talent level in the B1G was during that time frame. Only OSU had elite national level talent. So, even after losing those 5 starters in 2011 OSU was still vastly more talented than every team on its schedule. There is no excuse for not knowing that Bauserman was not a B1G starting qb until 2 games in. Too many fans write that season off and give Fickell a free pass, but he was overwhelmed and if they had given the head coach interim job to a more experienced staff member they probably would not have lost 7 games that year.
Fickell wasn't overwhelmed, if anything. He tried too hard.
About half of our fan base was ungrateful for all the great things Fickell did for OSU, mostly because of the interim job he was thrown into; and maybe rare season where the lbs struggled under him.
I don’t want it to happen but Fickell is capable of kicking OSU’s ass this weekend. His team looks damn good -swarming D and great offense too. OSU better bring their A game. Cincy is no joke and Fickell is all business.
Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith
I was the other half that took him for granted. Honestly, I barely knew his name when he took the interim job (never watched him play), so that was really all I had to judge him by.
Seeing what he's done at Cincy and the relative stagnation on our D the last few years, I can own my error.
I'd argue that it was only a vocal minority was making a lot of noise. But the vast majority recognized all he has accomplished at all levels at OSU and the situation with its inherent constraints that he was pushed into. Or at the very least I hope that's the case. For sure the negative nelly's on 11W don't represent the folks I know and speak with!
Edit, it occurred to me, after ready GB's post, maybe many of the young'ns don't know his history, so that makes it a different story too.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Upvote for calling me a young'un.
31 this month, I feel like the frequency of being called that is decreasing annually. Best start appreciating them more :)
Just like playing against Fitzy at Northwestern. Both were great players. Not many great players make great coaches, but Pat and Luke get the best our of their players.
Go Bucks! May the Bearcats go 11-1 this year.
JI row end 78
,,,sorry typo "out" of their players.
Fickell hasn't shown emotion since........maybe forever.
I still wonder why Luke never got a look to be a head coach at OSU (that we know of). 2011 was an impossible situation and he wasn't set up to succeed. He turned Cincy around quickly. Perhaps it's just as simple as Gene and Urban felt like continuity was key and Luke would've wanted to do things his own way right away. Hope he's really successful down there...just not this Saturday.
You win with people.
And so forth...
9 Units Strong!
I think they were actually protecting him. Him having to follow the legend that replaced him and knowing that many still questioned his ability to be a head coach led all to know that his best path to come back in the best way (if it ever happens) is for him to lead other programs for a time and establish himself.
To be fair I don't think he was quite ready and that's not a putdown. It's all part of the process. He's obviously learned from it. I'd like to see him get a job at a school where he can recruit a little better athlete's and see what he can do. Not putting down Cincinnati but it's really not an easy place to get 4-5 star recruits to go to
Not spreading conspiracy theories, but my Dad is an OSU prof. He told me that the trustees wanted Urban as the next head coach, before tatgate even happened.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I've wondered this myself. There was a pause after Tatgate where it looked like Tressel was safe. Then the SI article came out and the heat was turned up and Tressel was gone on Memorial Day 2011. It wouldn't surprise me if there were some back channels to back channels to Urban and or his agent.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
My biggest fear is he replaces Harbaugh at TTUN after another great year at Cincy. I'd hope he would pass but you never know.
There's not a chance of that happening ever.
Fick would take the job.
Fick would take the job and ram that ship straight into the first iceberg he saw.
That man is a patriot.
I'm sure people thought that about Gary Moeller.
Some are saying Dantonio may step down after this year. Fickell may have done his interview by taking on Harbaugh in the press concerning the Portal transfer from up there.
I don’t think MSU is an elite enough spot for Luke. If I was Luke, I’d make myself a silent clause that I’m only leaving Cincy for TheOhioState, Notre Dame or ,yes, Michigan. As much as we all despise TSUN, we have to admit that they are only as good as they have former Buckeyes running their ship. Remember, Woody’s hesitation to retired when he should have gave Bo no choice to run north. Otherwise, Bo was ours.
I wouldn’t even leave Cincy for a the stinking SEC.
I think a stop at a good Power 5 will be the next step for him before an elite program will pull him in.
I think MSU would be a great spot for him
I'd put my money on Luke being the next Head coach at Ohio State.
I doubt Fickell wants to wait 25 years for Day to retire.
I'd be surprised if Day makes it to 3 yrs.
what makes you say that? think he'll bolt for the nfl? i think we got at least 5 years out of him
Oh my God, you can't be serious. If Jim Harbaugh is gone after this year, ichigan will look at 2 guys, Campbell & Brohm. Luke Fickell to TTUN, that's laughable.
Whether or not TSUN takes a look at him, or if Fickell actually considers it, my point was that I would have Michigan as a benchmark for my next job.
You've been laughable on this thread if anything.
Fickell is one classy individual. I will continue to root for him again beginning this Sunday.
Have had a Man-crush on Luke for as long as I can remember. There’s probably a bigger fan out there; I just haven’t met them yet. What’s aggravating is the current fans that don’t know/appreciate the Buckeyes of the past - and Luke is none short of a Legend. One reason I don’t watch games away from home or w [many] others. Either way I had one such encounter on a non-game day back when Luke was here under Urban and they were struggling a bit. I like to think I “fixed” stupid that day.
In the end like others, I’ll always pull for Luke [except Saturday clearly]. And maybe one day he ends up back in the Shoe.
"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day
I hear you. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
God help Ryan Day if he doesn’t win this Saturday. Buckeye Nation doesn’t like to talk about this, but there is a small, but vocal faction of OSU fans that always hated Urban Meyer and has been rooting for Coach Day to fail so that we can bring a more “traditional” brand of Big Ten football back to Columbus. If we lose to Luke, Marcus Freeman and the Bearcats, that vocal minority will become deafening. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that this Saturday’s game will be the most important football game of Ryan Day’s entire life.
"Year for what?"
Sorry, but yea, that's hyperbole.
It is in deed hyperbole.
It must be a very small minority, and he must be very close that it sounds so loud.
But "yea" or "ye" or "yeah" or "yeehaw"?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
This gotta be one of the worst takes of the season so far. Pass the blunt bro
Nailed it. I secretly hated going 83-9, 7-0, and especially that horrendous 3 game stretch to end '14. Torture! I have always hated that Meyer character but now I root for Day to fail, fail, fail. As the clear and supreme representative of Buckeye Nation, however, I don't like to talk about all this. Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to get back to "traditional" brands. Where is my 3-liter bottle of "New" formula Coca-Cola, dammit?
The small but vocal faction and deafening vocal minority
The worst part of this game for me is that UFM retired. Otherwise we would have OSU alum Fickell leading UC against UC alum Meyer leading OSU.
"OSU alum Fickell leading UC against UC alum Meyer leading OSU."
Try saying that 3 times fast.
I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.
I’ve heard that from a couple people. You... and RBloodworth.
Sounds like nonsense, but maybe people ARE tired of watching Ohio States success. Or it’s just something you made up.
I have to return some videotapes
Each succeeding Saturday is the MOST IMPORTANT football game for a coach, especially in Columbus.
Just don't see Cincy having the offensive firepower like the Buckeyes.
I am hoping Ryan's first loss (if at the least) wouldn't be until the 1st semi-final Final 4 game, and (at the most) in the National Championship contest. But, even if the Bucks make it to the Final game, HIS FIRST YEAR, you are correct, some "vocal faction of OSU fans", as you put it RBlood, would probably be upset.
You gone Bulworth on us RB.
As Taylor Swift would say "You need to calm down" :]
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
You must be new here. Otherwise you would know EVERY football game is the most important in Ryan Day's life.
USC should do their very best to hire Fickell if the coach they got don't work out. He going to be the hot name after this season. He's an elite recruiter and I rather him go there than to face him in the Bigten.
Anything is possible as far as Luke going on to bigger things if he continues to succeed at Cincy. But, I think he would be better off going to a midwestern school than a west coast one like USC.
"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes
He going to be the hot name after this season.
Maybe behind darling Matt Campbell, who outlasted another quality opponent Saturday.....
Luke is coming to town on business. The game result could have a huge upside impact on his career.
Cincy is a step up. FAU has the better O but UC's D is good enough to be a thorn in the side of the O if the O-Line doesn't start improving. At times they are really very, very good. But then the Pass Pro for much of that game was NOT good. Inconsistency in the running game needs to be cleaned up as well. The starting D is FRIGHTENINGLY good. Those things get cleaned up between now and the end of September then this buckeye team will be SENSATIONAL by the end of the season.
I don't believe FAU has the better anything over Cincy, but Cincy still does not have to personnel to win the game on Saturday. The best they can do is keep it close until the 4th quarter. Cincy can wear us down, but in the end, we have three RBs to the caliber of one of theirs that is barely healthy. Both Warren and Doaks have some bruising.
Something would have to go drastically wrong, like Fields getting hurt (God forbid!) for them to be able to pull this off.
If I'm Fickell, I'm using this game to get my team ready to pound the rest of my schedule.
Also, this game is a blessing for us. If anyone on TV calls Cincy a cupcake game then they're living outside of reality and need to turn around and leave the pigpen. Cincy's defensive line is going to teach our Oline some life lessons this Saturday. After the game, our Slobs should thank them for it and tip their hats. With the exception of Chase Young who may in fact be the best in the Nation, Cincy's D-line is pound for pound equal or even better than ours. Yep, I said it.
Buckeyes win by two TDs max.
Trust, me. I took no joy in my statement.
No, actually I'm fairly sober and live in reality. I've also actually been following the Bearcats the last three years.
Saying another team may have a tad bit of a better defensive front than ours doesn't equate to saying Ohio State's D sucks or that Larry Johnson isn't an exceptional coach. SMH
You guys realize that the Cincinnati Defense was #8 in the country last year, right? We were #53.
Agreed on last years tOSU Defense being the worst in history of tOSU football and it was statistically. Ranked worst ever in yards given up and td's EVER. I blame that completely on Greg Schiano, because the talent has been and is there. Buckeyes have the top 3 class for 6 years running now based on avg per player stars rankings.
But to say Cincy's D line is better than the Buckeyes D line could be a big leap. Guess we find out the truth on Saturday.
L O L it will be at least a 4 TD lead at halftime. The only reason this game stays somewhat close is out of respect for Fick. Ohio State has the ability to absolutely embarrass UC. 59-21 final. 7 of that 21 is on the 2nd/3rd team defense. Chug will be in by the 8 minute mark of the 4th.
We couldn't accomplish what you are describing against FAU -- plain vanilla schemes duly noted. You think we will curb stomp UC? Okay. But I'd switch to decaf, bro.
Anyone here think Bama or Clemson would be worried about a home game against UC. Our boys are going to the playoffs and we should expect to dominate lesser teams like a playoff team does
1000 upvotes for a well stated post.
Yes, any team can beat any team on any given day. But the Buckeyes talent gap here is too wide.
28-0 after 8 minutes wasnt enough for you?
I truly believe this team is going to be elite. I mean they made FAU look like a middle school team on the first four drives. Yes they got sloppy and lost some discipline. That stuff can and will be cleaned up. The main goal of Saturday was to score 1 more point than FAU, not get Justin Fields Killed, and get these guys back to game form. The coaches (especially defense) are still trying to see what is working and what isn't, also evaluating talent and seeing who needs to be starting. Yes any team can beat any team any day, but if we are going to compete with bama, Clemson, UGA, and Oklahoma in the playoffs we should be able to handle an American conference team at home. Some people on here are acting like we are playing the patriots next week. This is Ohio State and unless its one of the previous teams I mentioned, a dominant performance should be expected(may not always happen) but it should be the expectation.
UC's D-Line is very good, and might be among the top 3 or 4 that we face. But, UC lost two starters to the draft and our D-Line is elite.
I agree that Cincys DL is very good... but I don’t think they hold a candle to ours once we’re healthy.
Hopefully Tyreke Smith and Taron Vincent are a go Saturday.
UC D Line....
Seriously, Fields is gonna shred them.
I could never coach against the Buckeyes. I just can't fathom the thought.
I'll work for helmet stickers!
This is a bittersweet game. I want Cincinnati to win every game but this one. I'll never feel as bad about a win as this game.
I watched Luke play along the bookends (Vrabel and Finkes) as a junior living in the Stadium dorms that no longer exist. I always thought he was underrated and didn't get enough credit as a player. Same thing happened as a coach - underrated. He is legit now having been seasoned under a few legendary coaches, and I look forward to seeing him motivate his crew to give us our best shot. If we win this game, it will be completely on talent gap. They have sound okay calling and schemes so we won't outsmart them.
I have a hunch he will do what he loves to do which is to stop the run and dare us to throw
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
Nose guards don’t get a lot credit. Fickl’s role was to eat up blockers so katznmoyer could make the plays. He started for 3-4 years, very durable, heavyweight wrestler in HS.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
50-14 ohio state win
"faith seeking understanding” (fides quaerens intellectum)
I'd be surprised if OSU breaks 40...
It is time!!!!!
Luke is what Ohio State Football is all about...Respect-Legacy-Humbling with ever victory...Go Luke...Go Bucks
I never said fire Luke Fickell..well, hardly ever.
I do not at all have the mind of a bully... in my mind bullies are intolerant of contrary opinion, domineering and rather cowardly.
One thing I know about Luke is he could whip any other college coaches ass. The youngsters on here don't know what a bad man he is. Might be the best wrestler Ohio High Schools have ever known.
I read an article the other day that claimed he had Marcus Freeman and his family and challenged Freeman to wrestle and subsequently made him tap out twice.
Luke was a great wrestler, but Logan Stieber was the greatest Ohio wrestler.
I wish him well. Not well enough to cover the spread, just under that. But well none the less.
I'm not fickle about Fickell. I like him and what he's done for OSU.
When he comes into Ohio Stadium against the Buckeyes, I say, "Fick you."
I hope cinci gives us their best shot
We need to be pushed as much as possible gearing up for the Big Ten. MSU has an outstanding defense, we need to be ready for a lot of tough Big Ten games..
Love Fick but hope we beat his team by a bunch. It will be a test though. Go Bucks!
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I went to UC and I love Coach Fick but I have been a Buckeye fan since I was old enough to understand who they are....This week I root for the Bucks!...but every other week I will support the Bearcats too and love seeing Coach Fick's success. That being said the Buckeyes better make that week 1 to week 2 improvement cuz the 'Cats are a solid team with some great athletes....we should win but we better play well to do so...this is no gimme by any stretch.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
You know we took out our starters halfway through 3Q against FAU?
yes, I am aware....not sure of your point. I watched UC against UCLA and they played really well, it wasn't as close as the score....FAU game notwithstanding, the Bucks will need to play a solid game.
We took our foot off the gas at 28-0.
I know that UCLA has Chip Kelly and all, but they were 3-9 last year and predicted this year to finish middle of pack in the worst P5 conference.
That's true, I'm just saying that UC played better than the score showed, which they should against a bad team, OSU did take their foot off the gas and I believe Ryan Day treated it almost like a scrimmage at times to try things out and get guys in there, try different looks etc. (which I applaud), I just think this is a pretty tough test this early in the season.
The same man who wouldn't change after his last game in the Shoe won't be emotional? It's the right thing to say, but I don't buy it.
I have a feeling the Ohio and National sportswriters are going to have a field day with all the dramatic back and side stories this upcoming game in the 'Shoe is about to provide.
Go Bucks. Show love to Luke. But not too much. ;-)
I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes
I love Luke and will always appreciate his devout commitment to OSU over the years (and I absolutely think if Day bolts for the NFL at any point Fickell will be on the shortlist of candidates to take over as HC at OSU next). That being said I hope Day has his guys intensely focused this Saturday. We cannot sleepwalk through this one, UC's a good enough team to make us pay if we do. Let's make a statement.