Clemson, Ohio State, Bama , Texas
national champion: OSU
im all in until it’s impossible
If there was a way I could short Texas stock I’d make a killing. They’re getting way too much hype.
Let me guess... before we open the envelope and take a peek above...
All the 11W experts will be unanimous...
and a Wild Card
Now let's go to the top of the article and open the envelope, please.
At least it will be fun to see which expert picks which Wild Card.
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OMG, Unholy Heresy!
One expert did not pick Ohio State in the Holy Trinity.
Is he a sincere believer, or making an SEC political statement?
Clemson, Buckeyes, OU, and UGA
Sorry there's no way the Buckeyes are national champions. Too many question marks
Yeah they are starting a second year player at quarterback and have an unknown backup if he goes down. Replaced the low performing defensive coaches with proven talent. Looks like we can't repeat last year's magic with these changes.
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When you are saying there’s “no way” something is possible in college football, either you are saying it to not allow yourself a let down, or you just haven’t watched much football. Anything can happen. Michigan could win it all. Not that I think Ohio State will win it all, just hate the “no way” crowd. If you know for a fact who isn’t going to win, tell us some more facts.
How long has that van been there?
I watched enough football. Unlike a lot of people here, I don't wear rosed colored glasses and drink kool-aid
You state it's impossible for the Buckeyes to win it all due to too many questions. But if we have answers to those questions it is definitely possible.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Just because youve watched football means you know dick about it either.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
You got to believe.
Nothing wrong with wearing shades and having a refreshing drink.
With God and 12-Gauge nothing is impossible.
I too where another shade then rose. And I've scene a team down to its 3rd qb beat Wisconsin by 50+ and then take Alabama and Oregon to the wood shed.
Some people are scared to death of the unknown. Then at the end of the year, when the same teams show up at the top of the rankings, they look stupid.
Something a homer would say
Rather be a homer than a troll.
I say the same thing to people who are worried about UGA bc they have all new WRs.
They said it was impossible for the big ten to make the playoffs after we lost to Virginia Tech. If fields stays healthy look out.
Sorry there's no way the Buckeyes are national champions. Too many question marks
Think back to the 3rd string quarterback winning it for the Bucks in 2014, and then rethink you post. Never say never......
Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.
Until the season plays out, I like to think of the Dumb and Dumber movie: "So you're telling me there's a chance." Would be incredible for the Bucks to win it all. Would be awesome to see OSU in Final Four. Don't see scarlet & gray losing in Big 10 Championship game after winning in AA. And---just remember from The New York Sun in 1897: "Yes, Virginia, There is a Santa Claus."
FAU in 6 days, baby! Hope we play better than the #8 Gators at home last night.
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The Midwest would riot if another non-SEC champion made the playoff at the expense of another conference champ. And rightfully so.
Thank you Fella's!!! Except that guy Jake.
Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State.
Georgia over OSU
Clemson over OU
Georgia over Clemson.
If Day's team accomplishes the four seed in the 2019 playoff, then 2020 will be the next step and Ohio State's ninth title... and Day -- with an NFL pedigree and a college national title -- will be on every NFL GM's short list.
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If we end up on the same field, there’s no way they beat us
Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas (A&M)
Clemson is going to lose 2 games.
The team (especially their young Jar-Jar Binks QB) won't be able to handle the extreme expectations - ala Ohio State in 2015.
"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum
Did....did you just put 3 SEC teams in the 4 team playoff?!
Crap. I forgot A&M is in the SEC now.
Haha, all good man. You almost gave me an aneurysm though lol
Crap. I forgot A&M is in the SEC now.
So what kind of research did you do in forming your opinion?
Consulted the Dark Forces and Healing Crystals.
? No magic eight ball?
I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.
Watched an episode of the Paul finebaum show
Aside from their conference, TAMU has one of the most absurdly hard schedule I’ve ever seen this year. They’ve got Bama, Clemson and UGA, which are very likely all losses. They also have tough games against LSU and Auburn. They could be pretty good this year and it’s still entirely possible they go 8-4 or 7-5.
I think that guy is saying he A&M beats them all!
No way Clemson loses two games.
Yeah, any other top 10 team with that same schedule would run the table.
I actually agree with this. And that has a lot to do with how weak the ACC is....don't get me wrong, Clemson is a top 4 team, and couple with the ACC schedule....they are my #1 seed.
How the hell do you figure Clemson loses two games??? They reside in the ACC and that conference is garbage. Clemson has the easiest path to the playoffs
Found the guy that works at espn lol. Just giving u a hard time about 3 sec teams.
Big 12: Texas
Pac 12: USC
Final Four: Clemson, Bama, Texas and Georgia
Explain that one since Wisky has TTUN (#7), at Buckeyes (#5) and Sparty (#18) in Crossover games.
And then Wisky would have to beat AGAIN one of those 3 teams probably in B10 Champ game?
Honestly, I picked them only because I couldn’t stomach picking TTUN to win the conference. I have them winning the West with 2 losses, and upsetting TTUN in the B1G title game. Don’t hate me; I don’t think that we’re going to be all that good this year. I hope to be proven wrong.
Given our off the charts talent level and excellent coaching staff, I can totally see why you’d think we wouldn’t be any good this year.
New head coach with extremely limited experience in that role. New QB with no career starts and an unproven- if not questionable- ability to grasp a college offense. No depth whatsoever at the QB and RB positions. I see the worst Buckeye season since 2011: 9-3 at best, 7-5 if Fields and/or Dobbins get hurt.
Not at all saying that you're wrong, RB, but if that happens then Day's seat should be very hot heading into 20. I don't know that it would be because Gene Smith (and Meyer) handpicked Day, so Smith will give him every possible opportunity, but college football is much different now than even a decade ago, and coaches making ten to twenty times what POTUS makes, and the fact that waiting too long to make a change after a hiring mistake could set a program back a decade means the clock started ticking for Ryan Day in the locker room after the Rose Bowl. 7-5, 8-4, or 9-3 are unacceptable with a roster built on consistent top five recruiting classes... inexperience at the QB and head coach positions notwithstanding. So, I hope you're wrong, and Ryan Day sure as hell hopes you're wrong.
I’m not sure if 3 losses is even possible w/ their schedule.
It is funny how you doubt the most talented team in the B1G, yet you expect a bunch of other teams, also w/ new QBs, to beat tOSU. Not sure why you would give NW, PSU and WISC the benefit of the doubt?
I would also rather have a new HC, than ones who are 1-13 against ranked teams on the road.
New head coach with extremely limited experience in that role.
College football today is a young man's coaching game. Only 5 active HC's w a NC on their resume. Its all about roster talent and hours and hours of analyzing film.
New QB with no career starts and an unproven- if not questionable- ability to grasp a college offense.
Justin Fields is off the charts talent wise. Highest tOSU recruit ever. Very smart kid. 3.9 GPA and 29 ACT score. And him in a Ryan Day offense? Look out!
No depth whatsoever at the QB and RB positions.
No depth whatsoever at the QB and RB positions.
Common attempt to knock this team, We have the most 4 or 5 stars on our roster in the country, we will adapt if needed.
I see the worst Buckeye season since 2011:
Interesting in that the Coaches, AP writers and vegas odds have us today as the 3-5th best team in the country.
Thanks for your points. So what school is your favorite school to follow?
I think that Paul Chryst needs to impress me after last years disaster before I pick Wisky again to win the west. You forget to mention that Wisky has a new QB this year.
And I believe that Wisky is going to be lucky to win 1 of the 3 crossover games alone this year (TTUN, tOSU and Sparty). So even if Wisky loses 2 of its 3 crossover games (and thats is 'IF'), you are saying they run the table rest of the year?
If that is the actual CFP, I’m not watching. Those 3 w/ OU/Texas, is the nut low.
All but Andy are dead to me now.
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Logged in for the resounding upvote Fitz!
Right on! Andy deserves a promotion and raise. Or at least the rest need a demotion. And Jake needs fired.
Every staff member but Andy!
Jim Harbaugh is to coaching what Lou Glutz is to Motor sales.
Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama and Oklahoma.
Ohio State wins their newest championship, the first in the Ryan Day era. Undefeated as well.
I’m going Clemson, Georgia , Bucks and Oklahoma with Buckeyes and Georgia in the Natty game and our Buckeyes win and Brett MacMurphy’s and Finebaum’s losing their total minds in a joint combustible head explosion. I’m also calling bs on the Don Brown hype, great at beating Rutgers but look at how many talented teams have left his defense as roadkill.
I like your scenario with the Buckeyes beating UGA in the title game. Can you imagine the mayhem if J.Fields returned to beat his old team in the final? What a dream come true.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
If I had $10 mil, I’d put it on Michigan losing to Ohio State again.
What kind of odds will you take?
As much as the bookie wants to lose.
I'll gladly pay $1000 to watch TTUN lose this year. Best case OSU wins. Worst case I win 10M (let's call it 100k?).
Multiple picks for Bama and UGA both getting in. More like EleSECven Warriors, amirite?
Nobody was brave enough to pick against Ohio State? Cowards. New coach, new QB, bad D - you guys need to put down the Kool Aid. Temper expectations a bit. Hope for the best, expect the worst. 9-3 or 10-2 is probably realistic. Playoffs!?!? Only if that D is like the 2002 D. One injury to Fields and you are looking at an 8-4 season.
Stop drinking the Kool Aid, people. Fields is over-rated until proven otherwise. He’s a black Christian Hackenberg - a 5 star guy who couldn’t throw.
Im going to go out on a limb and say you’re not someone that should be taken seriously.
This isn’t his first comment of this type.
Send the Earth Reverberating
He edited that out, or else he would get 1k DVs. Last I checked, Hackenberg didn’t run a 4.45. Thanks for capturing that, this is one of the stupidest comments I have seen on this site.
Also, I find the “wait until Fields gets injured” talk, morbid and applicable to pretty much every team. Bama, Clemson, Texas and UGA seasons are all ruined if their QB goes out.
Worst post of the year award nomination.
Love the username! Haven't had a JREAM in far too long.
All the negative vibes, man, all the negative vibes.
I gave you a +UV,
to show that, like Marianne Williamson, love overcomes hate.
Baha, love the political but not political jab
WOW the article states... They're (referring to the Pac 12 and B1G) hardly the best from top to bottom, but it just seems like they both have some more uncertainty than most of the others. What an ignorant statement! The B1G has 7 ranked teams which is more than ANY other conference. No Andrew the B1G has FAR less uncertainty that any other conference.
You WIN with people.
More ranked teams means more uncertainty, not less. That means it’s feasible a larger number of teams could win the conference, as opposed to a team like Clemson that’s a virtual lock.
The B1G is arguably the deepest conference in America. The only conference that can compare is the SEC, and I'd give them the edge after the bowl games last year. But, 2018 was 2018 and 2019 is a new year, so we'll see at the end of the season.
I think that the B1G will prove to be the deepest conference in America, but the trouble with that is there will losses for everyone when the playing field is so level. That means an undefeated team is less likely, and the winner of the west may yet again have 3 losses.
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Bottom dwellers don’t matter. Rutgers, Indiana, Vanderbilt don’t matter. It’s the top two teams that matter. Bama and Clemson OSU and Michigan. These teams should dominate the lesser teams.
Bottom dwellers have nothing to do with depth. Where I think the B1G is deeper is in the middle third of the conference. The place where teams like Iowa, Nebraska, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, and Indiana reside is where I think the Big Ten is better than the cluster made up of the likes of Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Auburn.
No, it was referring to the Pac 12 and Big 12, not the B1G.
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The article says the Pac-12 and Big-12, not the Big-10. And I think there's plenty of uncertainty in those conferences; especially the Pac-12 as I have no idea who's going to win that. In all the other conferences I think you can narrow it down to about two teams.
Why are we playing the 4 team playoff game, until they go with 8 teams and conference champions it’s all a scam and not worth following and getting all upset over a poor way to determine a national champion. It’s about who is the best team in the nation and not about who the best “ so called “ 4 teams are. This just allows espn to spew out the same old tiresome garbage with their precious sec and how many teams they can try to put in the playoffs. Once again, whoever wins the sec means they’re the best team in their conference and earns the right to compete against other conference champions. Let’s say the big ten champion beats the sec champion,well then they beat the best sec team, now that sec team already beat the one or two other sec teams that espn and the committee wants to deem one of the top 4 team why put those teams in the playoff when the sec champion already beat them. Who cares about who they think are the top 4 teams, it’s about who is the best team after all conference champions play each other. Though I don’t watch the nfl anymore, at least they got it right with their playoff system
They wanted to get as far away from the NFL model as they could and both sides said so right from the beginning. It's about money so here we are.
Yep, so why are we putting up with the 4 team playoff? We as fans should be unhappy with this shit model and raise hell at every opportunity instead of going along with their nonsense year after year. +1 Allinosu. Just got to get this crap off my chest lol. I gaurantee we’ll be reading and commenting on this stuff all year again and nothing will change and we’ll be doing this all again next year.
There is a sense of unhappiness (I can see why) among some fans but the larger % is not. ESPN put the big money up to have it just like this where there is chaos and they can affect outcomes to a certain extent. A while back I seen a poll asking two questions in one. They asked if were they unhappy with the current playoff and the other was something about being unhappy about the commercials during the game. The idiots didn't realize the hidden agenda behind it was if they still watched it even though they were unhappy and an overwhelming amount of them did. Viewership is the only way things will change on the next contract. I like the 4 team but I don't like the changing parameters the committee uses to get the selections. The thing both sides of the agreement came and said is (set in stone) that there would not be any automatic bids no matter if it was 8, 16 or 32 teams and there would be NO home playoff games. The NCAA went a little farther with they would NOT let football be a 2 semester sport. It appears we will go through much much more than next year.
Don’t know why somebody gave a downvote, but back to our discussion, I know those rules were laid down from the git go but the only way for things to change is for people to do something about it. The powers that be can be persuaded if enough people can convey their displeasure and force change. As far as polls are concerned, I trust them not, as they are purposely worded one way for agenda purposes or like the one you saw which has nothing to do with the question but everything to do with viewership numbers. Sorry Allinosu but I have to disagree about the larger % being unhappy, as most people I talk to are unhappy and wish to do conference champions included in the playoffs rather than continuing with the current model. +1 to offset whoever downvoted. Go Bucks!!!
Because this is not the NFL, and conference champs getting automatic bids is a bad idea. Imagine if OSU had their “dud” game last season vs Northwestern in the title game. Do you think Northwestern deserved to be on the same field as anyone else who got into the playoffs? It would have been an absolute joke.
Absolutely they should have gone had they beat OSU, if they didn’t win the Natty well then it proves my point that the the best team wins the the Natty and not who espn and the committee deems who they think are the best 4 teams are, again who cares about the supposed best 4 teams are when your looking for who’s the best team is in the country. Also this really isn’t. So much about the nfl, only really concerning issue to the way division champions go to playoffs. If conference champions don’t get the opportunity to go to the playoffs, then what is the reward for competing in a conference. Why even be in a conference and try to win it. Why should we and probably the pac 12 have to win all our games and the sec can lose one or two games and still get in over a team that won its conference. My opinion is your idea is a bad one. Also if you remember northwestern was still in that game in the 3rd quarter as they made it 24 to 21 I believe that was the score or 27 to 24 or something like that, point is they were playing pretty good football at the right time of year just like OSU did in 2014.
Alabam, Georgia, Lsu and Florida squeaks in with 3 early losses. Expansion talks heighten afterwards.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
Expansion wouldn't be the talk after that scenario. It would be withdrawing from the NCAA.
The CFP is not at all affiliated with the NCAA. It exists because the NCAA has no officially sanctioned post-season or champion for football. So we need to petition the NCAA to establish an official post-season and championship, not withdrawal from it.
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Almost zero P12 love. This is the year fellas, the B1G and PAC are back.
1. Clemson 2. Georgia 3. Ohio State 4. Utah
Can you fill me in on all the Utah hype? It feels like that came out of nowhere.
I was wondering that as well. I've also heard Utah love from other sources, and it seems like a stretch. WA & OR are recruiting at a high level. Oregon has a first round QB, and WA has an incoming QB, several years out of h.s., that was at the top of his class if mostly unproven. Kind of like another team that we could mention. Until I see Utah play this season, I'm not buying the hype.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
I was impressed watching Utah last year, so I don’t need to wait. Their QB/Hundley and RB/Moss were hurt, but they are back this year. They had the 5th-best pass rush unit, and the entire DL is back. Most of the secondary is returning, 23rd-best on passing downs and they have a projected 1st/2nd-rd CB.
They don’t play Oregon or Stanford, and the P12-South is weak.
Thank you, J!
So what you're saying is that this year we will have 2 of the 4 in simply because of very weak conferences and schedules instead of 1
It's more like the Pac-12 South is a dumpster fire, and Utah is simply the best of the bunch.
Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Texas
mark it down. Ou loses 3 games. Texas finally gets over the hump. Ryan Day and the boys play with a huge chip and have something to prove. 11-1
The Future is Bright at Ohio State
I've got a couple surprise picks, but
ACC: Virginia Tech
Big Ten: Ohio State
Big 12: Texas
Playoffs: Ohio State, Alabama, Virginia Tech, and Texas
champion: Ohio State
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
Anyone but Georgia woof woof woof
OH-IO living in SEC! SEC! Ville
2. Ohio State
3. Georgia or Alabama
4. Alabama or Georgia
I think the two SEC teams will land in the 3 and 4 spots.
OSU has the talent to win. They will win if our defense is as good as the talent and we establish a consistent angry run game that allows Fields to develop into a great passer by years end.
Georgia is not the problem the Buckeyes have not made it to the playoffs the last two years as BIG champs ... getting blown out by Iowa and Purdue, two teams they were heavily favored to beat are the reasons... stop losing those types of games, win the others and the odds go way up that the Bucks are in the CFP...
Exactly...2017 was 2 losses with one by a bajillion vs Bamas 1 loss. Last year was 1 loss by a bajillion vs No losses by ND and a more competitive loss by OU.
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If if weren’t for the constant reminders on here, I might forget about Iowa/Purdue. Thanks for the due diligence.
Clemson will not win it this year. Georgia folds as usual. I got it down to Alabama and OSU. If Fields is what we think he is and stays healthy, we win. I think our defense will keep us in every game regardless of the offense. The betting odds on UM and Nebraska shows it's about the money and not how they really feel. they know those two fan bases will bet their asses off in blindness and hope and they won't risk high odds on chance. Nebraska doesn't have the talent to be 25-1 to come out of the west.
ACC: Clemson Big10: Sparty Big12: Oklahoma Pac12: Washington SEC: Alabama
Playoffs: Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma, Washington
My Big10 pick is Sparty who gets into the CCG thru a tie breaking win over the Bucks who also drop one to Northwestern or Nebraska. My reasoning is that defense wins championships, and that again is OSU's Achilles heel. Unfortunately, the Big10 is left out of the CFP again as the conference champ has at least two losses.
While I believe Clemson is the best team in college football, they fall to Bama in the championship. The pressure of 29 straight causes Dabo's boys to finally practice the fine art of Clemsoning.
Ohio State under Ryan Day will have a great season, one we can be proud of. However there are going to be growing pains that will keep us from reliving the 2014 season.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
Not only is the pressure of a winning streak going against Clemson but if 18% of his tested players fail another PED test...Dabo is going to have a tough time blaming hair gel again (although this year Clemson might be smart enough to get the PEDs washed out of the players' systems a little earlier).
Predict many predictors in this thread will be disappointed w/their predictions ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain
I think the Big Ten gets left out again. Both Ohio State and Michigan have too many questions. Ohio State has no depth in the quarterback position, if Fields goes down, I think they're screwed unless Hoak magically becomes the next Haskins. As for Michigan, going from a pro style to a spread with a coordinatior that has never called a play? Good luck. The national champions will be Clemson because they the ACC is garbage and they didn't lose a lot of talent.
What? Where is the "Year for What" Team?? I thought this was the "year"....again..
I'd love to see an outsider like Utah crack in to the top 4 this year. It get's awfully boring seeing Clemson and Alabama every single year. Unfortunately, I think until you mandate 9 conference games and eliminate FCS appointments, you will continue to see schools try and game the system to make it to the promised land at the end of the season. It's not good for fans or college football.
As for Ohio State's chances, I think they have a very good chance of making it to the playoff. Their out of conference schedule is very manageable and they continue to have a more talented roster than any other team they will face in the first 12 games.
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Clemson, UGA, UT, Good Guys.
Who in the NCAA needs to be bribed in order to have Clemson pee in cups a couple of weeks earlier than scheduled? That would solve the problem of putting both the Buckeyes and a 2nd place SEC team in the CFP.
North until you smell it, west until you step in it
Really hoping for a good season if for no other reason than just so Day's not under the gun right away. With his guidance, the crew of coaches he has, and getting some of his own guys in there so he can implement his style of offense, I think this team is going places.
That said, I can see the playoff being Clemson, Bama, Oklahoma, and Ohio State. Plus, a Bama/OK matchup would be a writer/director's dream for all the space they can fill. So I'm sure they'll ALL be pulling for those two teams to make it.
That Vance kid, that goes by Andy, knows his stuff! Props to Andy.
TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.
all the preseason cfb shows I've watched have playmakers on both sides of the ball at LSU. Difference makers that win championships. I think this is the year that Bama is dethroned again from the SEC west.
SEC : LSU (over UGa)
BIG: OSU (11-1) with one loss..either Neb, Wisc, or Mich St
B12 : Texas...Texas loses to LSU but beats OU..twice
LSU vs OSU (OSU)
Clemson vs. Texas (Clemson)
OSU over Clemson
It's no surprise to me that my man AndyVance was the only one with the stones to choose Ohio State. Georgia is definitely a Ramzy type of answer, but I think you battles with your heart (Tell me I'm wrong... ;-]) and the rest of you Alabama/Clemson picks, shame on you for your lack of abashed homerism.
I'm not letting you off the hook just because you picked us to win the B1G... -_-
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uga can’t win the big one.
I have a hunch Bama May drop 2 this year.
my picks are
Clemson (only undefeated)
Ohio State v Clemson
I don't gamble so somebody please tell me
Can I bet that TTUN will not win a championship? Because I will get my house
Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. Vegas wants action in favor of TTUN. Even then, they are still afraid of a big payout, and prob wouldn’t let a fan bet a house.
You could arrange a bet, but the payout/odds would be astoundingly low-like 1-5,000.
Clemson, Bama, tOSU, Texas
ANDY VANCE gets it right. Wrasslin dude, Ag dude, Buckeye faithful.
Conference champs: Clemson, TCU, Alabama, USC, and Ohio State
Playoffs: 1 Alabama 2 Ohio State 3 USC 4 Clemson
Ohio State beats Alabama, and cancels Saban's revenge tour.
Love that TCU pick. For the first time since b4 Baker, the B12 is going to be wide open. Baylor, ISU, OkSt and TCU are all going to give OU and Texas a fight. One of them is going 9-3 or 8-4.
As someone mentioned earlier, I don't understand the love for Texas. They lost a ton on defense. Their QB is gutsy but gutsy doesn't win against the big boys. Gotta be elite in all facets and I don't see Texas as elite.