Milton is recruiting Evans to UGA
This would give them 4 five star running backs on their depth chart and another four star. Milton could get early playing time here but not likely at Georgia. Seems odd to me especially since he is not from Georgia.
Okay, what is going on here, for real?
Georgia is becoming the new Ole Miss right before our eyes.
When did adidas start making their uniforms? Get that cheeeeeese $$$
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This. Any morons who start getting overly jealous of the Dawgs recruiting need to ask themselves if probation is really worth it for their favorite team. If you want to admit that you think like an Auburn or Ole Miss fan-well, nothing much can be done. Some tOSU alums and fans have a higher standard for their favorite program.
Yep, the NCAA is gonna be so pissed with Georgia that it’s gonna put the hammer down on Mississippi State or South Carolina.
Nope...probably Vanderbilt for being so smart and trying to fit in with the SEC. Skewing those GPAs.
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I hate this attitude/mentality. We are sounding like the whinny ass fans that UGA fans were prior to 3 years ago.
Gurley, Chubb, Michel... they've had some great success here lately and have a rich history at RB.. and you can BET $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Georgia and everyone else is negative recruiting with Zeke.. It would be REALLY easy for these head coaches and running back coaches at other schools to say Zeke was just a normal guy until the OSU machine got a hold of him.
WTF is this, would you care to explain what "the OSU machine" means??????
It's negative recruiting... I NEVER SAID I agreed with it just that its happening.... you really think it's a coincidence we suddenly can't land RBs and Zeke is seen as a knucklehead? 1000000000000% there are coaches telling these RBs parents something like " I recruited Zeke when he was in high school.. great kid.... great parents.... but he's kind of a mess right now... I'm not saying OSU did that... but I'm not saying that either"... that's what I mean by the OSU machine... that's nothing new... Coaches have been negative recruiting us with that forever..
These head coaches and running back coaches will look for ANY angle to get a parent to feel nervous about a school on their kids list...
We just found out our head Coach doesn't really love anyone at RB2 and RB1 is off to the NFL next year.... the depth chart is wide open and we are still having a problem.... NEGATIVE RECRUITING is winning right now..
I get it that negative recruiting is a thing but I think you may be reading a bit much into it but hey, everyone has their own opinion. Personally I put more weight into the weather & climate factor for most of these western & southern kids.
You talk like you know, but you don't. Not sure anybody really knows. Interesting theory, but that's all it is at this point.
t would be REALLY easy for these head coaches and running back coaches at other schools to say Zeke was just a normal guy until the OSU machine got a hold of him.
Shouldn't OSU be saying that?
Zeke was just a normal guy until the OSU machine got a hold of him.
Day: "...So imagine what we could do with a guy like you."
Recruit: "Where do I sign?"
Day: "...So imagine what we could do with a guy like you."
Recruit: "Where do I sign?"
I don't see how this is a negative lol.
Not how it works... :) if it did we wouldn't be whiffing on every RB right now.. Texas, Georgia etc have painted a narrative that you shouldn't send your RB kid to OSU.. right now that narrative is winning.
You have no clue if that is the case or not. That's fine if that is your opinion but you're stating it like it is a fact. In the case of Georgia I don't think they have to negatively recruit OSU. They have a legitimate claim to be RB U and from what was reported their success with Milton had to do with striking a very close personal connection with the family.
Texas likely leaned on Robinson's family's preference that he not go to school across the country by selling Texas as a middle ground for going away from home but not too far away. I'm sure Drayton portrayed himself as the one who helped Zeke progress at OSU. I don't consider that negative recruiting.
Your theory of how these schools are negatively recruiting OSU frankly doesn't make much sense. Regardless of some of Zeke's personal problems, I don't think pointing to a RB who was a star in college, was drafted high, and is a star in the NFL is a great way to negatively recruit.
Orrrrrr maybe recruits are discouraged by the fact we now have Justin Fields for the next two seasons taking up some of their carries? If we whiff on all our 2021 RBs Day should shit-can Alford but to blame the stupid shit Zeke does on OSU and its
"machine" sounds like something a disgruntled UF fan says about Aaron Hernandez and Urban. We dont manufacture criminals.
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I actually don't think there should be much validity to that. The Buckeye running game was better with Braxton/JT/Cardale than it was with Haskins. It's a lot tougher to defend the run when the QB could fool you and keep the ball or vice versa. The potential for big gains increases. Of course the passing game was insanely good under Haskins so there's always a tradeoff. Having a QB who sits in the pocket makes the running game more predictable though.
Not only that, also with coach Hartline and the recruiting of the WRs picking up, and having a head coach that is more prone to throwing the ball...if other coaches want to say that in their “negative recruiting pitch” what can you do... it’s recruiting though... we are not going to land every RB on the coach’s board, but I’m sure new recruits pop up every year, different strategies and contingency plans are probably constantly installed for situations like this... I trust in coach day as well as coach Alford and mark pantoni to go out and find a RB who A) wants to come to tOSU B) fits the programs needs C) isn’t distracted by the outside noise and is committed to the school/team and what it has to offer
swift, holyfield the list just continues to grow
I don't like downvotes but come on man. Even Michael Jordan can't make that leap.
Milton and his father may say publicly they welcome the competition. And thats ok, you don't want to admit you are a bit skeptical having not only another 5* RB in your class, but a higher rated kid who happens to be a better overall athlete. Smart money would be to at minimum open to hearing from other top teams where you will be "the" guy no doubt about it. This wont be big news till December, then we will see how it shakes out.
Considering how successful the tandem of Nick Chubb/Sony Michel was two years ago I don't think competition at Georgia would exactly scare Milton off at this point. That being said OSU had a successful tandem of their own the last two years in Dobbins/Weber that everyone seems to forget about. It's not like we can't develop RBs.
Georgia has the money, er I mean, gravy train going right now.
Let's keep in touch and role the dice in the transfer portal for one of those UGA backs in the future.
They will have four 5* running backs on their roster. This actually crossed my mind lol.
Gotta figure he is banking on Swift will be gone after this season and then Zamir after next year. That leaves 2 5-stars and then a high 4-star...which isnt AS bad...I am confused still, though.
Zamir White has entered the transfer portal
My thoughts exactly. I think UGA is probably thinking after 2 major injuries they can’t count him to fully bounce back and are most likely even telling Evans / Milton this
5* RBs are overreacting to the Bama/UGA timeshares. SR Chub/SR Sony/FR Swift and SR Harris/JR Jacobs/SO Najee, is not JR Cook/JR White/SO McIntosh/FR Evans/FR Milton.
If Evans and Milton both want to play as FR, it’s not going to happen unless one or two of the older guys transfer. If they both want to play as SO, they are banking on NFL departures and dudes not living up to expectations.
They will play at Georgia way sooner than at Ohio state. Georgia rotates 3 backs and still gets the 4th and sometime 5th back some burn. We have a hard time splitting time between 2 backs and when Weber was hurt instead of letting another back get those touches they ran dobbins almost 40 times.
Getting 3 carries in the 4th Q of a blowout, is not playing. UGA usually rides 2 RBs, every once in awhile 3. They DO NOT play 4 or 5 at a time.
They always rotate 3...Swift played alot when chubb and Michel were there...and they still do a better job of getting the 4th and 5th back touches
Not true at all.
In 2018 and 2016 (didn’t bother going further back bc I already know the answer) only TWO backs played. Herrian was the 3rd RB both years.
18 - 3.6 rushes in 6 games
16 - 3.2 rushes in 7 games
*Did not count carries in heavy blowouts, FCS games or 1 game where the starter didn’t play.
Said once and I will say it again. People underestimate the cultural pull of being close to Atlanta. Say what you want. Kids don’t want holleywood they want Atlanta. I know here comes the bag man theories. Maybe they hold some weight. However Georgia pumps out RBs to NFL. It’s the same as Alabama and Clemson QB.
Have family in Atlanta, it’s a dump. Nice airport tho... lol
If dumbazz kids want to dream of bottle service w/ Gucci Mane and Migos, not much you can do.
I don't follow recruiting anymore but I have noticed a little panic on here about the rb situation. Don't we have 2 or 3 guys behind dobbins that are waiting to get their chance to play? Teague and Chambers I think are going to be really good and take up most of the reps the next 2-3 yrs. My guess is that may be playing a part in this, no immediate playing time is a factor for some kids.
Yeah, McCall may get to play there too this year.
I think the uproar at RB had to do with the misses this year. Two very good running backs were all but for sure coming to OSU. Then both made last second flips that nobody saw coming. Not even the insiders to the teams they flipped to (well one was more than the other). Which led to a bit of a freak out. Partly because Alfred has a fair number of misses at the position. He has brought in decent players but not really the top of the line four star and five star guys. And he was close and lost it at the last second (not totally on him).
I forgot Steele Chambers is there too. They will probably sign one decent back or two when all is said and done. But who knows? the freak out this year was more due to shock.
Don’t forget about the Gatorade player of the year from the state of Florida Marcus Crowley... from everything that I’ve read, he is having a really good fall camp and could be pushing for those back up snaps
Your missing the point that none of them are 5 stars ....
Ya like I said I don't follow recruiting, but I can see why people are nervous on us missing out on some 5 star guys. I trust we will get it done though, I think Teague and Chambers will get us through next season and the year after. That gives us 2 years to get a couple replacements. Maybe this year we just focus on trying to find a diamond in the rough 3/4 star guy. You never know how these guys are going to perform at the college level no matter what their star rating is.
Just shocking to me they can have that much talent at one position where there is usually one on the field at a time. At most a guy will get to start a season unless they really separate themselves.
Just wild. Georgia also puts more money into recruiting than any other school. Looks like it is paying off too. That is just wild. You would think that teams would be easily able to point out that you will not start there or the depth at the position. I am sure they do but it seems to work against some schools but not others.
You would think that teams would be easily able to point out that you will not start there or the depth at the position
Doesn't Georgia regularly rotate RBs?
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Yes. As does Alabama. They also play talented players. If you ain’t one of the best you don’t play.They don’t sit a first round pick in order to play a free agent. If you good enough to get to be a high draft pick they play you. No leadership/ captain bologne. That’s why young people will continue to go there. They know they got a chance if they better
Sure, but they don't give 5 guys equal playing time, much less 3. Most of the game replays I've watched of them had Swift and Holyfield rotating 60/40. Not that different from a lot of teams. OSU just had Dobbins/Weber rotate equally in a down rushing year but still almost got both to over 1,000 yards.
They do, but it is not equal distribution to each of the backs. Any school would love to keep multiple backs fresh. Usually that is two and the other guys typically come in within garbage time.
Maybe they plan on doing more, but unless they do nothing but hand off in a game there are not enough touches on the offensive side of the ball at that position. Even splitting annoys some backs. Although more are coming around to it, as it extends their tenure and keeps them fresher.
I keep saying If I'm a top RB recruit and know I'm making the pros. I'm going to a team strong at the position to save my body. Runningbacks are struggling to get a second contract right now.
Have you seen Miltons dad? Georgia can have him and the nonsense that comes with him. Not a slight on the kid.
Let them have all the 5* RBs they want. It barely moves the needle. And in two years, one of them will be transferring out anyways.
Only 1 can carry the ball..we just need a few who are ready to play anytime...I don't care about the star rating thing...get a guy who gets it done
.This is Ohio State...we have had tons of great rbs... just keep recruiting.
Georgia does run the ball a lot. One of the big reasons they can’t beat elite teams.
I'll be patient as an OSU fan until signing day but if things keep trending the way they are recruiting wise specifically at the running back spot I've said it before I'll say it again Alford may be a goner..
Family preference was the only thing that kept him from getting not one, but TWO, 5* RBs that live on the opposite side of the country. People really need to stop correlating recruiting wins and misses to overall success as a coach.
It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.
UGA is the IT school for RB's right now - and they've earned it with all the high level RB's they've put in the NFL in the past 5 years. They've also proven to recruits that two high-end RB's can flourish at the same time at UGA.
But they can't sign every great RB. OSU needs to continue to find their guys.....praying that Tague, Chambers, etc. turn out to be above average RB's. If not, we're going to be throwing a hell of a lot to our stable of high level WR's because guess what? We're currently the IT school for WR's right now - and I'm thinking that might be scaring off a few of the 5 star RB's (Milton and Bijan).
UGA has the largest recruiting budget in cfb by far at $2.8M a year. No other school approaches that budget. I wonder if the bag men are part of the budget are off book. If stories of Rashan Gary being offered $300k are true, it shows how hard it is to compete with the Southern schools.
True enough, Eph, although the good news is that there are still plenty of great 4- and 5-star players (and their parents) who don't want to build their career on a foundation of criminal activity.
Sure, fewer of those payers live south of the Mason-Dixon line, but some do--and they don't all like the stench of sleazy recruiting tactics. Heck, some of them even have an innate sense of honor, self-worth and fair play!
But even if a player's only focus is dollars and cents, I'd like to think that OSU offers a better overall value than the going rate for bribes, and that being the case, the smartest players (or at least enough fo them) aren't dumb enough to penny-wise and pound-foolish.
Of course, not every player is offered as much as Gary reportedly was, but I'd like to think that for the best and smartest players, a $300k payday and related reputational and/or criminal risk isn't worth the full package that OSU offers, namely...
1) An OSU degree + 2) the advantage OSU networking for career development + 3) being an OSU-developed football player, which surpasses virtually every other program.
"Sure, fewer of those payers live south of the Mason-Dixon line, but some do"
This stinks of an "ism"
The lifelong benefits of being an OSU alum and how OSU genuinely cares about its players careers other than just football probably is the reason why OSU has been able to do so well. A correction, though when you label taking inducements as "criminal". It is not. It is perfectly legal. It is against the NCAA's rules but there is no crime in this country of accepting a gift. The receiver of the gift does not have to pay taxes on it even. The person giving the gift pays taxes on the amount given. Now, perhaps unethical on the athlete's part, but I'd even debate that considering a lot of players are coming from single parent homes with lots of mouths to feed.
Not a tax attorney but I'm not sure the IRS would agree that bag money is a gift.
While it's hard to believe... IF... Milton is really, truly recruiting Evans, and Evans is really, truly considering a commitment to the Bulldogs, then Milton obviously would stay committed to Georgia, however... IF...
Dobbins runs for 1,200-1,500+yards this year and the Buckeyes are a playoff team, you can bet that Milton, Evans and some of the nation's other top RB recruits are going to second-guess their commitments by signing day...
They'l doom themselves to jealousy watching RBs that were smart enough to choose OSU after figuring out that they were being lied to by any competing programs that have suggested Day's high-flying offense is nothing but a gimmicky, one-dimensional aerial circus.
I suspect Day’s system is in fact being negative recruited against. Only works for one position though. QB, WR, and OT positions will flock here in droves. If Kirby Smart wants to play a 2005 style of O, and Tom Herman wants to run a slow QB 13 times per game, good luck!
LONG way to go with this recruitment fellas. No way this kid shuts it down early. I still think he’ll end up at A&M close to mom.
I hope you don't think our recruiting is totally clean.
I hope you can explain to us how tOSU does the total bagman thing like SEC schools if you are going to put it out there. HS recruiting shenanigans and hand$hakes when players are on campus are different things.
I googled up Massey composite and it has some interesting recruiting figures and cost. According to them Auburn spends the most followed by Bama with OSU a close 3rd then Texas and ND. You would think teams in the south would be a tad cheaper because most of their talent is in their back yard. Texas being a huge state has a lot more in state travel and expense compared to TOSU in state recruiting but then again we don't recruit a lot of home grown kids but a 3 hour drive in any direction to do so. Going to Texas and California like we do is not cheap but then our head man in recruiting I bet gets a pretty penny. Oregon is a interesting story and possibly could be the highest if they added in donations they receive from NIKE but again I'm sure we have our donors too.
a few years back....Wasnt Walker a 5 star that decommitted from The Ohio State & signed up North ? BUST I think
Give me a 3 star with a 5 star heart that would LOVE to be a Buckeye
Meh. Zeke was a 4 star, Dobbins was a 4 star, Kareem Walker was a 5 star. We’ll get 1-2 4 star guys at worst, possibly Emmitt Smith’s kid I think? The sky will remain where it is.
Kareem Walker ended up a 4 star but I like where your head is. tOSU will be okay at the RB position regardless.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
UGA is 100% no doubt RBU. The way they use multiple RB's every single year is impressive. The RB talent they'll have on roster is best I've ever seen, recruiting wise.
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Would I like having a highly touted stud RB? Yes.
Am I perfectly content with 4 of the top 13 WR (incluilding the best in the nation) after a season of setting all the passing records in team history in an ever changing landscaping to passing offenses? Yep!
I'd prefer to have the best passing game than best running game. Let's try being really good at throwing the ball for a while.
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Does bama have to choose between top wr’s or top rb’s? Or do they recruit and USE both? Why choose when you don’t have to?
Plus, look at the QBs we have coming in as well... fields for at least 2 years, miller for at least 3, then McCord for at least 3... and with our own QB guru as the head coach, plus buckeye nation knows Hartline is going to continue to crush the recruiting trail for top wide outs (and is content in doing so, doesn’t want to leave) and i think that will help recruiting RBs, because, with the constant threat to air it out, what opens up? The run game!!!!
They are a team that uses “multiple “ rbs and that’s all the selling point you need for the top guys. We upgraded our passing game philosophy and the wr’s came running to us. Now it’s time to upgrade our run game philosophy and reap the rewards. A pair and a spare getting carries. One will rise to the top but the others will keep it rolling year to year....
We just had 2 RBs go over 950yds last year in what was one of the worst rushing offenses we've seen in the last 7-8yrs at Ohio State...
Honestly, I’m disappointed this is even a thread.
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Am I the only person here that doesn’t give a shit? UGA has had top 5 classes for decades and what have they won? RB is a position that is the position I worry about the least on the football field. Give an an elite QB, OL, WR, and a serviceable RB and I’m more than happy.