Skull Session: Garrett Wilson Hype Train, Ohio State's Home Field Advantage, and Devin Smith's Career Resurrection

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

Over the years, I’ve seen enough credible people say Autzen Stadium is one of if not the loudest venue they ever played in. I’m not saying it’s necessarily louder than the Shoe, but I also don’t think it’s Ryan Field either.

I’ve also seen us lose enough big games in Ohio Stadium to not *fully* be on the “Ohio Stadium is a massive home field advantage” train.

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Homey1970's picture

And Ohio State has owned Autzen since the season it opened.  Look it up.

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chibuck's picture

I’ve been to a game there. I can confirm it gets really loud despite not being a huge stadium. 

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Bosco Baracus's picture

Been to 3 games at Autzen. Prob 20 osu games. Autzen is louder and I have no clue how. awesome stadium and town. Love the Pacific Northwest.

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TigerSweat's picture

We call it "The Shoe"

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

There’s a big ass sign above the scoreboard above south stands that says OHIO STADIUM so I’m probably good to call it that?

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MuraliPatel's picture

I've been to Autzen a few times... once to see the Badgers get ambushed and slaughtered there, and once to see the Civil War. It's a smaller venue, but it is easily one of the more loud & hostile environments to play in... I've seen a lot of college football live, and I think #5 is about right. I've been to A&M, and came away unimpressed. Death Valley IMHO is still the most electric environment at night.

Sidebar: I too have seen us lose enough big games in Ohio Stadium to not be 100% on the "Ohio Stadium is the toughest place to play" train.

"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war."

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blueblazer22's picture

Powering an air raid siren with a 180 horsepower engine that caused rotors to move and create ear-splitting sound is almost definitely the coolest thing I will read all day, and it is only 4:09am here. Love that story, and now I want to find one of the remaining ones to see it in person. 

Devin Smith was a favorite of mine, if for no reason other than the his catching the bomb from Braxton to beat Wisconsin in 2011. He was more than that of course, but I honestly think the roar after that review was completed may have been the loudest I have heard in the Shoe, beating even the end of 06 ttun. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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BuckInNashville's picture

I think the loudest I ever heard the shoe was against USC in ‘09. I thought that spirit had gone as the fan base began to age, but last year’s TTUN game was a stellar performance by the crowd !

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MichiBuck12's picture

I was at the Texas game in 05 and that was the best crowd I've ever been a part of anywhere.

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brutus0717's picture

It kinda seems ridiculous to even type this, but 2009 Iowa was the loudest for me. Back and forth affair that went to OT, won in typical Tressel fashion, meaning 108,000 people were ready to have a heart attack.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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blueblazer22's picture

Not ridiculous at all. I was at that game as well, and it did get thunderous at the end. Still ticks me off that it was even close down the stretch, but that kick return just swung all the momentum. The field goal in OT was beautiful. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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TNT's picture

I was in my dorm on Lane for the Iowa game, watching on tv. I heard the roar from the stadium telling me we'd won before I saw the ball snapped, thanks to that 7 second delay.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

I'd like to see videos taken from outside the stadium during huge moments in OSU history. 

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buckeyenut74's picture

I have no idea where it ranks, but 2002 PSU has to be up there for one of the loudest games. 

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mr.green's picture

I was at both Texas and USC. Both were insanely loud. USC was louder though. Washington in 93 is in the conversation — and we won that one  

Loudest m*chigan game was 06. But last year was in that ballpark at times. 

Bottom line is The Shoe can be very loud. But we don’t always win the biggest and loudest. 

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Scott62's picture

I echo ‘93 Washington.  OSU fans were starved for success (better than 9-3) and Washington rolled into town two years removed from a National Championship and highly ranked.  It was also one of the early and very rare night games in the Shoe at the time.  Heard rumor tickets were still going for hundreds of dollars at half time if you could even find one.  I also would add ‘95 Notre Dame.  The Shoe was rocking an hour before kick-off.  2016 TSUN was cool as I sat in student section with my daughter, who was a senior that year, and her friends.  For a different perspective, I sat under cover in B deck for 2017 Penn State.  The echo off the overhead cement made it deafening.

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BuckeyeBoiler's picture

Was just logging in to say the 4th quarter of 2017 Penn State in B deck was deafening.

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BillShermansGhost's picture

That game, michigan last year, and michigan in the double OT game.  When we beat them in double OT, the stadium BOUNCED.  It took a second for everyone to find where they had been standing.

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

I concur. Texas was by far the loudest that I've ever attended.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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JT Buckeye's picture

I was at the '05 Texas game also (that "burnt orange" color looks more like baby sh!t brown in person), and while it was pretty loud.. it doesn't hold a candle to the Game of the Century in '06.  #1 v #2 TTUN was by far the LOUDEST game I've ever been to in The 'Shoe. 

*Sipping the Buckeye Kool-Aid since 1995

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blueblazer22's picture

I recall the crowd being pumped for USC, but not so sure if it was quite as loud. That game was probably the second-most annoying loss I have seen there, likely behind only the Penn State debacle where TP fumbled late and it ended up what, 10-6 or something?

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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AnnArborsBuckeye's picture

I was there as well, my only loss in Ohio Staidum. I believe it was 13-6.

Get dumped then

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Clarky's picture

Kenny G's comeback win against Purdue after Braxton Miller got hurt was insanely (and also, sort of, shockingly) deafening. 

"If Chase Young is truly bigger than I think he is and taller than I think he is, he would probably have to be the literal Predator because I've seen him with my own two eyes and I personally think he's pretty damn Sasquatchian." - Kevin Harrish

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J-Buck's picture

I attended at least two games in the late 80's, as a student, where they had to stop play on the field because of the noise.  In the one game, the crowd actually got the team penalized for making them stop play more than twice.  THAT, was loud!  

I'm a peacock Captain, you gotta let me fly!!

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Count Chocula's picture

The loudest I can remember Ohio Stadium is the end of Michigan's last drive in 2002.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

I think of Devin Smith in that three game run starting with the B1G CCG and I cant believe he hasn’t lit the NFL on fire.  Hope it works out for him finally, except vs. the Browns.

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gobucks544's picture

Id say for me the loudest was the bomb to Devin Smith to beat Wisconsin. I was front row of the BlockO and climbed the speakers there. The view looking back at the fans was insane and I will never forget it. My favorite games I went to were the slaughters of Penn State at home and the Big Ten Championship against Wisconsin.  Just about nothing went wrong during the game and it was just pure bliss.

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FitzBuck's picture

Tell me more about these secret tunnels.  

I imagine they lead to a hidden room that’s filled with gold pants and a jeweled sarcophagus that houses the remains of the original Brutus costume.  

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

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Buckeye_Condor's picture

maintenance tunnels from what I understand. I know some people that have gone done there and wondered around. They also house high pressure steam lines. Rumor is, if there is a pin sized hole in one of those lines I can cut through your skin something pretty nasty. They say hold a stick out in front of you so you don't get cut in half walking in front of a steam buzz saw... but those are just rumors right? 

Connor Brown

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IGotAWoody's picture

I imagine they lead to a hidden room that’s filled with gold pants and a jeweled sarcophagus that houses the remains of the original Brutus costume. 

And dozens and dozens of wolverine pelts.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Dillon G's picture

Kirk Herbstreit has a thing for Oregon. Well, the whole crew does. But I think it refers to the setting more than anything.

Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson? I'll take it.

#walkaway

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SilverHaven's picture

That "thing" refers to Nike ad dollars.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Dillon G's picture

Very well could be. He doesn’t say it’s loud. He blathers about Eugene.

#walkaway

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BucksHave7's picture

Nice attempt by the Huskers, but our alt uni’s are way better.

BucksHave7

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iowabuckeyes's picture

If Nebraska wears those black jerseys and gets rolled, they may be ruined and never worn again. The karma will be cursed.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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GoBuckeyes1020's picture

I do think this is one of Adidas' best uni efforts though

The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick

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Silver Sniper's picture

OMG, those poses tho! Hilarious. Looks like Penn St with red gloves. Awful. Can’t wait to derail that hype train. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

The tough thing about measuring home field advantage is that its not the same from game to game. So are we taking an overall average or ranking them only based on their best? For example, Tiger Stadium at LSU is widely considered one of the best, and it came in at #3 on that list. Tiger Stadium at its best vs. Ohio Stadium at its best and LSU probably wins by a thin margin. But I've been to some non conference nooners at Ohio Stadium that were pretty quiet, and I've also been to an LSU-Tulane game. Tiger Stadium was maybe, MAYBE 2/3 full for that game. Say what you want about Ohio Stadium at noon for a MAC school but at least its 95% full. Also a list with Clemson and Georgia at the top is a joke. Those schools are the flavor of the week, and they might have some good home field advantage but its nowhere near the top in the country.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

Excellent non sports stories today! The air raid sirens were crazy!

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

My senior year I lived on 18th, just off High.  There was a civil defense siren across the parking lot, less than 100 feet, from my bedroom window.  They tested that sucker ever Friday at noon.  It might not have been in the same class as the ones in the article, but we quickly learned to not come home for lunch on Fridays.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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CooperRuinedMyChildhood's picture

It's almost like Scott Frost has watched Buckeyes @ fill-in-B1G-West-opponent the past 2 years and smells blood in the water. Our guys better come prepare September 28.

In Urban We Trust.

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JTstan16's picture

I really hope FOX broadcasts it at noon. The environment at night might swing things even.  

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CooperRuinedMyChildhood's picture

They're dying to put the Buckeyes in primetime first chance Fox/ESPN get. Ohio State doesn't play 5 consecutive noon games anymore (assuming Miami (OH) is at 12:00).

In Urban We Trust.

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

FOX actually has promised this season that it will put its marquee matchup of the day on at the noon timeslot. 

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/fox-big-noon-kickoff-coll...

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aeronaut's picture

Miami U will be a later BTN game

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

You can count on it being at 800 on ABC. The only other currently ranked teams playing are Washington State and Utah, and that isn't going to move the Needle. Just not another match up prime time worthy.

Noon games suck

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PsyBuck's picture

If we lose to an improved Nebraska team, and it's a close, well played game in what I assume will be the most hostile environment this team has seen in half a decade, I can at least accept that.

What I can't accept is another 20+ point blowout in which we look like St Francis' school for the blind and otherwise physically incompetent. THAT shit better be a thing of the past. If there was ever a sign that Urban Meyer was beginning to lose his edge, it was those games against Purdue and Iowa that provided it.

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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CooperRuinedMyChildhood's picture

To me it looked like Urban schemes for the marquee opponents and looked to out-athlete less talented opponents.

In Urban We Trust.

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mr.green's picture

PSU, MSU and ttun all are hostile crowds on a regular basis. No way Nebraska is more hostile

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gobucks2110's picture

I will be impressed if it can come anything close to the Penn State whiteout. I've been to 3-4 games at Nebraska, 2 of which were big games during the Bo Pelini era, and they never were especially loud or intimidating. 

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PsyBuck's picture

If it's a night game after all the hype they've received about returning to their former glory, that place is going to be insane.

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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g.man.242815's picture

The attendance dip has to be going hand-in-hand with the high price of a ticket...especially if you're buying for the entire family... FWIW

G-

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PhillyNut's picture

High price of tickets combined with a guarantee of being able to see every game on TV combined with being able to afford screens that fill a wall will keep the average fan away and they are the ones that determine if you have a sellout or not at the less attractive games.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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FeedZeke420's picture

For real, prices are out of hand. I don’t even look at big ten opponents. Even decent seats for a family of 3 for cinci and fau are steep.

Go Bucks!

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tbdbitlbuck's picture

That plus the lack of dynamic pricing based on where you sit. 

Technically face value for the FAU game is the same whether you're on the 40 or in the upper reaches of D deck in the north end. Ohio State has to fix this. Dynamic pricing by game was a good first step, but there should legit be some $30 and $40 seats for some of those sleepers at the beginning of the year. 

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SilverHaven's picture

Plus the lack of dynamic play based on who is playing.  What's the thrill, excitement, anticipation of watching an in-state MAC team that is supposed to lose by 3 TDs?

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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aeronaut's picture

Not only rising ticket prices, but decreasing value. The in-stadium experience has been made bland (which happens when you sell it to a corporation that is doing the same thing in multiple stadiums) and commercialized to the point of absurdity. Plus, at home, I can comfortably watch 3 or 4 games at once and get all the food and drink I want.

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FeedZeke420's picture

Yep asking people to pay more than they do for their mortgage to attend a 3 hour game is insane.  I haven't been to a game since 2014, but we were literally squished in like sardines. Great view of the game, band etc. but it was cramped and I refused to take a piss the whole game because I knew id miss half a quarter(or more) doing so. I love going to the games but they have priced me out to where I may attend one every 5 years or so. Unfortunately I don't see it changing because we love our bucks and people will show up and pay the prices no matter what it cost and the University knows it.  

Go Bucks!

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PhillyNut's picture

If Camp Randall does not make the list based purely on the stadium itself makes the list null and void.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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BucksHave7's picture

Let the students enjoy it!

BucksHave7

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PsyBuck's picture

I'm going to Autzen next year with my best buddy (he's a massive Oregon fan). He swears those games in Eugene are always rocking and rolling. Those 60,000 people must REALLY go crazy to be able to create any kind of home field advantage. When you look at that stadium, it isn't as if it's designed to trap sound and reverberate it back onto the field.

I'm looking forward to the experience!

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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ZachBuckeye5's picture

Never been to Autzen..... But I’ve seen a few prime time games on TV and that stadium is rocking. Wouldn’t say it’s louder than the Shoe

Buckeye fan in the heart of Badger territory.

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tajikey's picture

I too am going with a buddy to the game next year, but he's a Notre Dame, not an Oregon fan.

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JTstan16's picture

Garrett Wilson will be our Justyn Ross 

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Knarcisi's picture

Those Nebraska alts are sharp. Real sharp. 

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CincyBuck87's picture

This is not the obligatory anti-SCUM comment: Michigan Stadium is no way the #8 toughest place to play and not deserving of being one slot from Ohio Stadium. I have been to a few big games there and that place just does not get loud at all, partly due to the construction (gradual incline) and partly due to the fact that most of the fans are high.  It just isn't an intimidationg stadium, regardless of how many fans it holds. Camp Randall and Spartan Stadium are more deserving. 

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Knarcisi's picture

It’s intimidating to sit in for 3+ hours. No wonder they can squeeze 110,000+ when each numbered seat is only 8” wide. 

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mr.green's picture

The suites, which help contain the noise, have made it louder. They also mic up their lame band now.  So that makes it a bit louder too.  In the 90s it was not loud but somehow intimidating to Cooper and OSU. Those were tough times.  

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CincyBuck87's picture

Good points. Most of my experience is from the 90s. 

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Buckeyeneer's picture

Additionally, I will inform you that there is an expansive system of tunnels under The Oval.

I can confirm. They would make a great "evil lair" for a mad scientist or supervillian.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

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gobucks5413's picture

I love Ohio Stadium. I think it's one of, if not THE most beautiful sights in sports. But #7 is about right. The crowd is electric at night or in a big game...IF the Bucks are playing well... but not too well, go up 3 scores and were back in our seats or some even out the door. In my experience, if the Bucks aren't playing well, there's no push from the fans, rather booing and hand sitting. And, if it's a nooner vs a turd, not even close. (Which you could say about any home team anywhere)

The shoe will keep dropping down these lists until they drop prices to every man levels

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TMac's picture

Superbowl Bound Browns

#ItsGreatToBeABUCKEYE

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

As long as they hide the kicking nets.  If not, OBJ may not make it onto the field.  Talk about a head case.

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avail31678's picture

Meh, I've heard people say he's great to have in the locker room because he works so hard.  Also, heard he helped that broke player trying out for the Browns with cash.

Read all the Tweets, quotes, and headlines about Antonio Brown, then talk to me about a head case.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

I'm a Steelers fan, I know all too well about AB.  They have similar traits.  The Steelers are better off without Brown.  We will see in a couple of years if OBJ's antics will have Browns fans feeling the same way.  I know right now it seems as though having the talent outweighs the headaches, but we will see if he changes his tune now that he got the trade he wanted.

Also, not saying he is a bad guy on a personal level.  Just that he has been a distraction regularly throughout his career due to his me first attitude on the field.  Let's put it this way, if he was on the OSU roster and you saw some of the stunts he has pulled over the years, you would be happy to see him head off to the NFL.

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TMac's picture

It's a wild time to be alive

tOSU #5 

#ItsGreatToBeABUCKEYE

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IGotAWoody's picture

Great list, really documents the upheaval. We've always had players and QBs move from program to program, but never has it been so prevalent and so visible.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Sunny Buck's picture

That piece about the internet shutting down was great. The comments were even better. The impact of that happening is pretty scary. We do rely too much on the digital world for everyday life but what else can you do? I guess the doomsday preppers would be OK.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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allinosu's picture

Most would asking what time it is.

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lamplighter's picture

Good Tuesday all.

Go Bucks! Beat everyone on the damn list

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BuckeyeBacker98's picture

Our last two seasons were both derailed by road games vs. Big Ten West opponents wearing Black...  At least Nebraska won't have any yellow/gold in the mix...hopefully it was the yellow/gold part of the equation that was our kryptonite.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Stoked for Devin Smith, if he can catch on and bring his career out of the darkness that would be a great story.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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BengalBuck's picture

Garrett Wilson...God has blessed you....stay healthy son & pay it forward...

Neil Armstrong lied to me...

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Dillon G's picture

Those of us who got lucky can say 88,0000 can get loud when you come back against LSU.

Im excited to watch Joe Bureaux again. Last year was often on my laptop, depending on how many screaming girls spend the night.

#walkaway

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Hockeybuck's picture

There was nowhere close to 88,000 left in the stadium at the end of the LSU game. It started to rain, and I went down into the concourse to watch the comeback start to unfold before heading back into the seats.

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Dillon G's picture

We were all on the field.

#walkaway

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cledaybuck's picture

Happy first day of classes, young Buckeyes, particularly to the first years.

Man that seems early.  God bless quarters.

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NorCalBuckeye's picture

Uggh I greatly dislike when the bloggers here give themselves a chance to put their foot in their mouth. We play at Autzen next year. Why even tempt the bad juju?? I’ve been to some of loudest games in Ohio Stadium history. ‘95 Notre Dame. scUM last year and in ‘06 and ‘02. I’ve also been to Autzen for PAC 12 games against middle of the road opponents. I hate to break it to you but Autzen stadium is much louder than the horse shoe. Pains me to say it. Sure the acoustics play a factor. But more so it’s the participation and loudness if the fans. Every single Duck fan is out of their seat and raucous. Young or old. I don’t know about you guys but 90% of the fans in my section of the ‘shoe don’t even stand or make noise on third down. Autzen stadium is absolutely more intimidating than the horse shoe as a venue. Teams being equal. And any objective writer would say the same. Respect what’s in front of us. That game is going to be huge next September so please start putting some F-ing respek on da name. 

Buckeye born and raised, even after I die...

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WC Buckeye's picture

With you on that. 

Also, we shouldn't discuss capacity with noise quality here without factoring in construction: the shape of the stadium (Michigan bad; Autzen, Husky Stadium, and the Shoe good) greatly impacts the noise levels. There aren't many places louder than Autzen or Husky stadium when the crowd's rocking, even though their capacities are dwarfed by the Shoe's.

Life is full of choices. Make good ones.

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Hovenaut's picture

Happy 13th Birthday, 11W...although I'm still hesitant to give you your own smart phone.

Got M...igan gossip? Bang it here.

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avail31678's picture

Agreed, 11W might become self-aware

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Glad to see Devin Smith having a good preseason. Hopefully he can have a great year in Dallas.

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pcon258's picture

So hard to do objective rankings of CFB stadium atmosphere. Too many variables at play. 

But, I think Bryant-Denny is ALWAYS ranked too high. It's a friggin wine and cheese club. 80% of the students don't make it past the third quarter even in close games. The program has prestige and there's a lot of pageantry down there, but when it comes down to the 60 minutes of football, my experience is that the passion simply doesn't match what I've seen in columbus. I think Nick Saban agrees with me, based on the number of times he's pleaded to the students to stay the whole game. 

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tekk69's picture

Great for Devin Smith!  How has Noah Brown looked?  Will he get cut?

Also, how about resurrecting the Gamble Method for G. Wilson!  Future 2-way player?? wow

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buckeye phi's picture

So 247's Brad Crawford has Ohio Stadium ranked #7 nationally, eh? 

I'll have you know, that when it comes to rating college football stadiums' home field advantage, Brad Crawford doesn't make my top 25. 

With all due respect. 

Actually, we'll have a "Fields advantage" in every game this season - both home and away -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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UrbzRenewal's picture

If we're bieng honest, Ohio Stadium is not all that loud or intimidating compared to some other big time locations. Night games against ranked opponents are fairly loud, but not for long stretches of time. 

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buckeye phi's picture

Actually, I do agree with you, UrbzRenewal.  It's OK for us to admit that - but I just didn't care to hear it from some writer who may - or may not - be qualified to evaluate such a nebulous thing -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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OHBoy74's picture

If Nebraska plays us with the black unis, we need to wear the Cocaine White unis for that game. 

Haters gonna hate and Bert is gonna Bert.

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Chitownbuckeyecpa's picture

Love those white unis - they need to wear them more often.

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southbuc's picture

CFB has an attendance problem?  Hmmm. Beer  

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