Skull Session: Ryan Day Can Adjust an Offense, Justin Fields Hype, and Top Players at Each State

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

So ryan day is smart and Justin fields can play football? Well, that is going to make for an interesting season, no?

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Dillon G's picture

Not in An Arbor.

#walkaway

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Or in any Arbor, I’ll wager.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Kugel's picture

This reply/joke may be underrated. I LOL'd.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Agreed. Well done, Iowa.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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PRO8's picture

He's not the sort of guy who needs a specific type of quarterback to fit his system, and thank God for that, because in my humblest of opinions, if you're an offensive coordinator and you can't win a lot of games with either Dwayne Haskins *or* Braxton Miller at quarterback, your system sucks, and so do you.

About time somebody spoke up about this I got so frustrated with folks thinking there was some sort of large sea change going on as if the Buckeyes  would never run the ball again and all the QB would do is hand off or throw the ball and  we're entering another era of Air Coryell with coach Day...

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Silver Sniper's picture

then it would set up a debut season with hype akin to Braxton Miller or Terrelle Pryor (though Fields isn't going to have to unseat an elder white pro-style guy with a high teens number this time).

Not sure how their race has anything to do with the narrative. Perhaps you could have said “pro-style” instead of “white”?

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FeedZeke420's picture

Was going to say the same thing. Pretty strange choice of words, especially this day in age.

Go Bucks!

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oldebucke's picture

Agreed.It kind of created a negative edge to the whole write-up for me.

If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

It’s a shot at humor they didn’t land, clearly. I was just (probably lazily) drawing physical comparisons between Boeckman and Bauserman (hence, the high teens number thing, which is just as irrelevant as race), I’m not trying to shape a narrative. Apologies.

Knarcisi's picture

No worries, Kevin.  Not offended here.  

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ScarletGray43157's picture

It’s a shot at humor they didn’t land, clearly. 

It is early.

Once everyone has their coffee then their sense of humor should improve. 

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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cledaybuck's picture

The only real offensive thing was comparing Boeckman to Bauserman.  One was a competent starting Big Ten QB and the other was...not (insert passing chart here).

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Well, he didn't really lose his job to a hyped-up younger player, so he doesn't really count. However, I did once write a piece comparing him to another No. 16 who happens to be white!

BUCKEYE3M's picture

In fairness to Kevin, there wasn't much "pro" in their pro-style to speak of... 

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lew-e's picture

You can’t be serious? Who cares if he says white guy, or black dude. Nobody should care. It’s not offensive. It’s not mean. It is accurate. “In this day and age” is only this way because of people feigning outrage over stupid ish. I found it funny. And as a white dude with a Hispanic last name I can appreciate it. I’m also an adult and don’t take offense to the slightest of slights while someone is entertaining us. This wasn’t medical literature, it is literally a morning article full of funny stuff with some facts mixed in. Comedy. Entertainment. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us please

I got no sleep last night and have an interview today, so if this reply comes off as “offensive”, my bad. 

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Buckeyeinsc's picture

White guy with hispanic last name? That takes gringo to a whole new level!

Fighting the good fight in SEC country. "Our honor defend"

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Not_Sure's picture

Good luck with your interview. 

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Silver Sniper's picture

Lew-E, I didn’t say I was offended or that Kevin is a total douche because he said it. Just didn’t think it was relevant and offered a suggestion. Calm down. 

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Extramedium's picture

Yet fairly outraged at others’ outrage

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Sanitarian2's picture

Yep, a poster brings that to this forum and the post is deleted in minutes and I can promise you that 98% of Buckeye fans could give a flying F what color the QB is so long as he wins. "in this day an age" everything is ruled to be offensive and your intention as the author means nothing. I do agree that it may be time to take back the narrative though.

Sani

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Kugel's picture

I think he was just trying to have some fun....

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buckeyeradar's picture

So what does race have to do with it?  I read the site to get away from politics.  In the 60's we stood with our brothers to make us one strong nation, void the color of our skin.  I'm saddened by your off the wall comment.

I may not be the sharpest crayon in the box but I'm one of the most colorful.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

There's no political or racial statement here, nor am I pushing any narrative. Again, race has nothing to do with it besides a quick (and admittedly lazy) physical comparison between Boeckman and Bauserman. You're right, it's totally irrelevant. It means exactly as much as their jersey numbers both being in the high teens, which I also mentioned in the same tone in the same sentence. It's just a comparison. 

Extramedium's picture

How dare you mention their jersey numbers... 

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BuckNut_1974's picture

Was thinking the same thing. A little odd to me.

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FunZone's picture

I think it'll still be a few years before you see an esports "#BOOM" on our front page, but at this rate, it's gonna happen. And y'all are going to click on it.

 Me: No, I won't!

Narrator: He will.

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painterlad's picture

I can't speak for everyone, but having a clothes hanger up my ass would break my concentration. A lot.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

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Gratefulbuck's picture

You’re colon it like you see it, butt, I’d have a hard time even walking. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

“I do respect you but, I like to watch you strut.”

— Bob Seger

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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lamplighter's picture

you need to put this pun behind you

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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
 

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Nutinpa's picture

There's a crack in your logic.........it just doesn't pass the smell test.......

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Gratefulbuck's picture

Well, Cardale rectum with his arm, anyway

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DCDDC's picture

rectum?  damn near killed them.

m GO BLOW!!!

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MichiBuck12's picture

Justin Fields can be announced the starter today and the suspense can be over and we can finally focus on the season ahead. This offseason really seemed to fly by. I'm glad its over. Only one more weekend between now and college football and I get to spend it in Vegas.

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

Technically, you don’t have to wait that long. Florida/Miami in Orlando this Saturday night. Neither team will be very competitive this season but hey, it’s a football game that counts.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Perhaps we will see Tathan catch a pass...

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Nutinpa's picture

Neither team will be very competitive this season but hey, it’s a football game that counts.

That comment is up for debate -- especially as it relates to Florida. 

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SilverHaven's picture

Drue is an amazing, an astounding kicker!
Put him on the soccer team.

And as a punter, he also has experience feigning a bad collision to get a penalty!

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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BucksHave7's picture

Yes. 11:15 Press Conf to announce this years Heisman Trophy winner.  What a great Monday!

BucksHave7

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JTstan16's picture

The whole Justin Fields can’t read defenses narrative is comical & racially rooted. Jake Fromm, a top 20 pick in the 2020 draft, did nothing but lead his team to the natty as a true freshman. The odds of Fields beating were already slim to none. He should’ve never committed to Georgia but we’re all thankful that he did. When Justin is completing around 67% of his passes this season, don’t be surprised. 

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NorthBerg's picture

Mostly nice ?

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Which would put him a notch under Haskins’ 70%...checks poster’s screen name, confirms bias.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

It's true that Fromm led his team to the title game, where he promptly had the second half lodged in his throat until Tua gave him an atomic elbow to restore breathing... 

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

No, I got it. Just didn't want to pass up an opportunity to take a shot at Fromm, and Kirby Smart. 

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allinosu's picture

I love how people just make up their minds without doing their homework. This clip is from a guy that screamed in the press that Justin should get more playing time /www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/27301292

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stxbuck's picture

This is PC pot stirring for no good reason. Plenty of touted white QBs-Tate Martell, scUM starters-can't read defenses worth a rat's ass-or at least worse than Fields.

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Cooper's picture

I would say that as a generalization, I would typically agree with you. I’m not sure anyone had those concerns last year with Haskins though, and I certainly didn’t. Maybe it’s more of a stereotype with black quarterbacks with dual threat ability. If we’re imagining everyone is being genuine with their concern to Fields being able to read a pocket, it’s probably due to the limited game film of him at Georgia leaving the pocket pretty early on some of his throws without looking at multiple reads. However, there is a solid chance that UGA coaches didn’t teach him/want him to make multiple reads because of his athleticism; it could be part of the reason why he felt more comfortable transferring to Ohio State under a coach who is proven at developing quarterbacks.

I think my point is there is a little more nuance to this case than others.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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BucksHave7's picture

Because Justin Fields is off the charts in arm strength, speed for his size and pure athleticism, the haters wanna make up something else to attempt to knock down tOSU's shiny new QB!!!

But his HS coach himself went on record and said he is very bright and he even had a 29 on ACT with a 3.9 GPA in HS.  https://usatodayhss.com/2017/justin-fields-quarterback-penn-state-football-recruiting-elite-11

BucksHave7

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Fromm led Georgia to a natty as a true Freshman? Had no idea... 

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BuckNut_1974's picture

The whole Justin Fields can’t read defenses narrative is comical & racially rooted.

 Damnit Kevin, look what you started with your whole "white guy" comment.

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blueblazer22's picture

A waiter is shot for not bringing a sandwich quickly enough. In France that does shock me, since they typically do not rush people at restaurants. Then again, if the restaurant is in a rough neighborhood, which this one seems to be, then maybe this is no shock after all. Odd no matter what. 

Joe Bachie is the best player out of Ohio? The guy with his own initials tattooed on the backs of his arms, just in case he forgets his name I guess? Whatever works for the list I suppose. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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IGotAWoody's picture

Yeah, Bachie is good, no doubt about it. But I'm perfectly happy with having recruited and gained Malik Harrison's services instead.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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PhillyNut's picture

Just don't want the hype on Fields to fizzle out like he is a character out of Springsteen's "Glory Days".

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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iowabuckeyes's picture

That song is about us.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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soldierdad's picture

There was a scrimmage yesterday?  Tree fell in the forest I guess.

The soldier is my son.  The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.  

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73buckeye's picture

E sports arena?? People watch other people play video games? I feel like Rumplestiltskin and just woke up after a long nap. I guess I did play pac man and space invaders in the 70's. Do those qualify? 

ernie

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Well, at least having an arena will get them out of the house...

Seriously, though, as someone who never played video games beyond Pong and Pac-Man, I am weirdly fascinated by the eSports culture. Is it possible for someone who never played a sport to become a real coach because of their video mastery? Not coaching a position but planning and executing game strategy.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

See video poker v World Series of Poker...

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I rather not.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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stxbuck's picture

To answer your question-NO-b/c video game geeks don't understand the physical realities of sports. You can't simulate on a video game what the tOSU defense did to DaU in the Fiesta Bowl-they physically destroyed them to win the game. Ever notice how the running game in video games isn't like the real thing, grinding and controlling when done right, with the OL imposing their will?

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BuckeyeSki's picture

That's incredibly short-sighted. I played starting OLB for football as well as wrestled 171 weight class all 4 years of HS and after practice and games, couldn't wait to get back to being a "Video Game Geek" 

Broad strokes are easier to paint I suppose....also, if you can't control the clock with the run game in Madden, you're simply doing it wrong 

Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe

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stxbuck's picture

I'm talking about video game people who haven't played/coached sports in real life being hired as some kind of coach-like Iowa asked, not athletes who happen to enjoy video games.

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The Big O's picture

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents, I feel I'm decently qualified. I played on Ohio State's (probably) first e-sports team while I was in school from 2010 to 2012. We traveled for both collegiate and professional level tournaments. The game was Starcraft; it's a Real Time Strategy game where you acquire resources to build an army and crush your opponents. At the time in 2010, e-sports was really just starting to catch on in the US, and we were still able to draw 10k viewers for the collegiate league. There were several thousand dollars in prize money for winning the league (we got to top 16 my senior season). Also, yes, we did get the opportunity to deliver an ass whooping to TTUN every year.

We were also an actual real team. We held team practices 3-5 days a week, spent significant time creating strategies to defeat opposing teams, and deciding who on the team would play during the week. I'd say on average, a team member who played in a match practiced roughly 3-5 hours a day. We're not just sitting there twiddling our thumbs on little control sticks--you make about 180 actions per minute (i.e. individual keystrokes or mouse clicks); that's 3 a second. No, it's not the same level of physical stress as playing football; yes, it does take real skills that require practice and conditioning. That's why it's called "e-sports" it's a very similar high level of competition and requires just as much practice and dedication as physical sports, just on a different playing field.

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Cooper's picture

The video game business makes more money than all four major sports leagues combined, I believe. So yes, it is going to continue to have interest from everyone around the world.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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CieGrant_Blitz's picture

It is a $116B/year industry globally.  Which is larger than the 4 major US sports leagues but still would get crushed by sports industry world wide when you add Euro soccer leagues, Rugby, basketball, hockey, Japanese baseball etc. 

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Crashnburn01's picture

Wonder if they will put the e-sports arena in the basement of its building?

Indeed. Why not have both?

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Schizo's picture

I gather that Day isn't married to any particular style of quarterback besides "extremely good."

Cautiously optimistic. Urban also said that they would tailor the offense to the specific QB, etc. and yet... 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

You don’t think last year’s offense was tailored towards the guy that broke multiple school records playing in it? Or that the No. 6 offense in the country the year before wasn’t tailored to J.T. Barrett – a guy with a totally different skill set?

Blockandtackle's picture

Easy on the push-back Kevin, I think the guy may be Schizo. 

A joy which death alone can still.

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Triv's picture

You didn't pay much attention if you don't think the offense didn't change from Braxton -> Guiton -> JT -> Cardale -> JT -> Haskins

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Schizo's picture

If you think Urban tailored the 2015 offense to Cardale's skillset then we'll never agree.

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Triv's picture

The offense in the first 7 games of 2015 looked much more like the 2018 offense than it did the 2014 or 2016 offense from a stylistic standpoint. It just didn't succeed because we had a mediocre (at best) offensive coordinator/play caller/wide receiver coach.

Cardale averaged less than 8 carries per game in his half of the season that he started, but tell me more about how Urban tried to shove the JT offense down his throat. The passing offense didn't take off because 1. Day >>>> Warriner/Beck 2. Haskins > Cardale and 3. Hartline >>> Zach Smith.

You haven't been paying attention even a little bit if you think Urban has kept the same offense for every QB.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Poisonous Nuts's picture

Look - I'm a dude and all (so yes, I should just shut up), but I have to imagine that any female would find it odd not having a period for 8 months.  I seriously never understand these stories about 'I thought I had to take a deuce and had a litter of children' stories - how in god's name can you be so self unaware?!?

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Agreed. You'd have to be a guy to ignore a health problem that long. 

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USArmyBuckeye's picture

Congratulations, you officially made me spew my morning coffee onto my kitchen counter

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

As the recipient of many "what took you so long?" questions from my doctors over the years, it was my pleasure. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

I was just talking to the new kid at work and he was telling me about a friend of his who didn't know she was pregnant until the day before she delivered a full term baby. I'm with you, how do you not notice? Not just the absence of a period either. Theres a whole bunch of shit that happens when a woman is pregnant that is totally normal for pregnancy but should probably be of some concern otherwise.

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TNT's picture

I can understand misinterpreting the "broken typewriter", but to not feel any quickening until birth baffles me.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

There are many women that have irregular cycles so it's not as black and white sometimes.  Stress can also cause one to be missed, but obviously if that happens multiple months in a row then you are lying to yourself about what is going on.

Your signature will be publicly displayed at the end of your comments.

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

Criminal Chrisman wasn't on any preseason All-American teams that I am aware of. Should be on the Ray Guy watch list too.

Noon games suck

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BucksHave7's picture

I second that and I am still baffled by it. 

BucksHave7

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

At the risk of giving the "recruit Ohio first!" folks an aneurism on this fine Monday morning,

I guess I’m that guy. But in fairness, I don’t personally think “first” - just because I have a minor shrine to honor JPT. I just don’t want Ohio kids overlooked. Tressel’s mantra was “build a fence” - get the Ohio kids first. With Urban, I felt like he could care less about Ohio kids at all. Day feels like a happy medium so far. Either way here comes the ‘beat the dead horse comment’....thankfully Pantoni stayed; he’s invaluable. 

Edit; one thing I will say, Urban was able to pull from the Queen City...and that’s only getting better. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

 

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stxbuck's picture

I'll take Malik Harrison or Robert Landers all day, every day over Joe Bachie. Josh Meyers too..................

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mmit's picture

RED FLAG ALERT:  Previous 5 star QB recruit, some put at the VERY TOP (as in number 1) of a recent recruiting class STILL, mid-way thru pre-season practice season, NOT YET declared starter against a former 3 star, local undersized, slow, marginal throwing arm drop back passer, who is more suited for a DIV III program than a D-1 powerhouse.  Something NOT adding up.  It's OBVIOUS not a physical issue.

O-H

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I think the red flag alert would be sounded if Gunner was named the starter today, not because Day hasn't formally/officially named Fields until today. It's not like the competition has been neck & neck with both splitting 1st team snaps.

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Earl_Bruce_Era's picture

It is a strategic issue. Why would Day anoint Fields the starter so early? 

Earle_Bruce_Era

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stxbuck's picture

"Outskirts of Paris"=banlieus=projects/ghettos in the American context......

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

The favelas in Brazil. The setting for City of God, one of the truly great movies ever made.

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stxbuck's picture

Spot on about City of God. Menace II Society in Portuguese.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Several huge announcements today from the Buckeyes - starting QB and captains. Definitely looking forward to those.

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

Pretty sure the ap poll comes out today. Those will be used as the rankings until the cfb playoff rankings come out in November.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Thought the coaches poll was used before November...

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

I think it'll still be a few years before you see an esports "#BOOM" on our front page, but at this rate, it's gonna happen. And y'all are going to click on it.

No ... I won't ... but I'm as old as the hills ... OK gotta go yell at some kids walking in my yard ...

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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