Ohio State's In-Season Recruiting Under Ryan Day Could Have a Very Different Feel Than in Years Past

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TJG32's picture

The 2020 class is going to be special. The 2021 class could be even more special. Could be the best back to back classes the Buckeyes have ever put together. 

TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.

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tbirnbrich's picture

I feel like this was said about 2016 and 17, then 17 and 18 lol.

Day has done everything off the field to succeed here, now let's go win a Natty in yr 1 and really turn up the heat!

I will pound and pound you until you quit

- Woody Hayes

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BuckWylde's picture

Day has certainly done some good stuff for sure, but one thing I question is, how a QB who's earned all the accolades that Fields has suddenly can't take control of a competition with kids that aren't in the same stratosphere in terms of overall QB skillset. It sort of makes me think that coach Day is going a bit too far and running the risk of stunting the growth of a thoroughbred with great arm talent and 4.4 speed due to an inability (or unwillingness) to adjust his scheme to fit the kid. Urban Meyer is indeed a tough act to follow, and IMO it might serve everyone's best interest to wisely simplify rather than risk blowing a possible shot at a National Championship. 

All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular positions. -Adlai Stevenson, governor, US ambassador

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stpetebuck's picture

Nah friend, the tea leaves you’re reading just  aren’t there. Day is just pushing his #1 and keeping the backups pushing. This is the transfer portal era, and there’s nothing gained by handing the job to someone early. Qbs jump ship faster than other positions. Jmo, but every knowledgeable sportswriter is picking jf to be a great one.  

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oldebucke's picture

Your response was "friendlier" than the one I nearly sent was. His quote at the bottom of his post is somewhat telling, I think.

If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Wylde, what the hell are you talking about? You are basing that off practices you havent even seen? Day says the offense struggled some and you think that means he's stunting Justin Fields' development? That makes absolutely dick sense (i.e. NONE).

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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BuckWylde's picture

I thank you for the enlightenment on the subject of dick sense, wherein you seem to be quite the expert. But as one who's played and coached the game, what the hell I'm saying may not make sense to one so expert, since dick sense is doubtless the native tongue of a dick head. A language in which you are proudly quite fluent. But as one who has been around long enough to have seen the Cleveland Browns last NFL championship game (verses the Baltimore Colts) in person, i'd venture to guess that I've wiped and flushed more football knowledge than you're equipped to absorb at this point in your life. Millennial culture has left many of today's young athletes emotionally fragile, which may well be the case with a supremely talented QB who didn't believe he could unseat Mr Fromm @ GA, who looks much like a future NFL journeyman to me; but he was apparently enough to send young Justin scrambling for the transfer portal. Please forgive me IBLEED, for rambling on like us old fogies tend to do, because your name alone says that we're brothers in the fraternal order of Buckeye Fanatics that make this site what it is, so without further ado I'll just say--GO BUCKS!!!

All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular positions. -Adlai Stevenson, governor, US ambassador

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oldebucke's picture

I'll just say I'm proud of all the posters here who resisted/didn't bother to dv this rambling.

If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.

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redwoodz's picture

Hartline someday will be the head coach here! Go Bucks!

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Buckeye in my pocket's picture

Each day that goes by helps to solidify the decision to make Day the head coach. Form what he was able to do in Urban's absence, to the way he was able to get the recruits secured in the off-season, I think we can rest assured that the program is in good hands. 

That being said, this is a huge season and will tell us a lot of what he is capable of. I want to see us beat the crap out of teams we should and avoid Iowa and Purdue type games. The talent is here for championships, I hope it isn't squandered. 

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buckeyearchie76's picture

Read on ESPN when Tate found out yesterday morning that he was not going to be the starting QB at Miami, he decided to bolt the afternoon practice as well.  Most Buckeye fans, including myself. wanted to see more of Tate during the regular season.  However, if you remember Urban put Tate into the Michigan game to run the red zone offense and he failed miserably,  To his credit, he did run the red zone offense decently against a good MSU defense.  What is his next move?  Transfer again?  What big time team in their right mind would want him?  It is a real sorry situation for him. But he brought most of this on himself by his actions and his big mouth.  GO BUCKS!

Louis Haynes

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1MechEng's picture

There are plenty of big schools looking for a new, starting mobile QB - Nevada, UCLA, and others come to mind.

Trust me! I'm an Engineer.

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McGrind's picture

MSU included a lost fumble in the red zone...although it was a bad (another) bad snap by Jordan. And of course several of his drives were spoiled by a certain right tackle jumping off sides. 

Tate is good enough to start a lot of places...but not sure anymore how many would want him. Always a little to "me focused" to be a true QB1 leader IMHO. 

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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Hondo's picture

Can’t imagine NCAA would give him immediate eligibility if he transferred again. That would be a true mockery of the transfer rules. If Tate transfers again it’s likely out of D1 and maybe that’s where he belongs.

The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.

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dschuetz11's picture

HE’s going to have to stick it out—just like he would have had to do at OSU—except he already knows the OSU offense and would have been ahead of Fields at this point, if he stayed!

Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining!

~Judge Judy~

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PhillyNut's picture

I would not be surprised that there has been a fair amount of negative recruiting specifically to running backs -

"Hey look at what they did this past year with all the throwing",

"See that once Day came on board that Dobbins numbers dropped and he was getting far less per carry",

"Do you really think that they are going back to full RPO with the architect of their passing game now being the head coach and plans to call plays?",

"Did you see how their line struggled to run block last year?  Well, did any of the coaches specifically involved with that change? No. Hmm?"

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Of course that is happening. Only thing that explains losing Bijan and Knighton. The kids started listening to the bullshit from Herman and whatever the hell crap FSU was spewing. Only way its going to get fixed is Dobbins having a great junior season.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

The crazy thing is that Dobbins and Weber still had over 2000 combined yards. Even with all of the record breaking passing, the yards were still there. Yes, Dobbins’ production dropped, mainly due to bad run pro, but again, the yards were still there for the taking. Hopefully Dobbins can have good solo numbers because... math is hard?

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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analyticalguy's picture

Early signing day isn't until December. Let Dobbins rush for 100+ per game at 6+ per rush, as the Buckeyes streak to an undefeated season and Big Ten championship, and maybe Day gets a flip. A national championship would then lock down recruiting for the next cycle.

There! See how easy that is?

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maximumblitz's picture

Agreed, you can't have a horrible season rushing (last year) and expect to recruit great running backs.  It is always easier to recruit running backs when you last one "won the Heisman" or received various accolades.

The answer now for the running back recruiting problem is for Dobbins to begin having an incredible season. Flips will then begin flipping out.

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THE_SWAG's picture

No issues for Day and Alford, this will all work itself out - too much positive momentum right now.  Besides, Beanie Wells, Sam Maldanado and Maurice Clarett, were the only 5 star running back recruits for the Buckeyes, so - find me another 4-star like Zeke and I'm happy - there's still a good number of them out there.  

Others will tell you, "The grass in not always greener on the other side of the fence...",  I say, "Who cares about the damn lawn?" - RP

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McGrind's picture

Wish Weber would of got another 50 yards or so against Wash...not sure how you negatively recruit if you have two backs with 1,000 yards rushing. Nobody wants their meal ticket son to tote the rock 25+ times a game anymore. 

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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gobucks1966's picture

Alford taking unfair heat and getting beat down more than Bill Davis did or Studs for that matter. Not always going to get their man all the time. Plus if we would flip either the honey moon would be back to all good.

Denny

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Osusam77's picture

As Day said, performance is what matters. Alford has missed several top RBs in the last 5 years, so he deserves some heat. But I’m not sure his job should be questioned at this point. 

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KidfromAK's picture

Alford hasn’t even been here 5 years

Running back not Blocking back

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Silver Sniper's picture

He’s in his fifth season at OSU.

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OhioStGoon's picture

I don't want to pile on Alford but it seems every year since forever OSU has had an assistant or 2 on the proverbial hot seat and most times justifiably so. This year it's Alford and it's a big year for Alford in terms of recruiting because his fellow OSU coaches are running circles around him at the moment one of which in Hartline who is killing it. Hopefully Alford can get it together recruiting wise because if not it's no doubt he and OSU will go their separate ways after this season..

GO BUCKS

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Drewbdu's picture

If Tony Alford is the weakest link, considering what he’s done here, I’ll be very happy. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

This just reminded me of how excited I am for high school football to be back 

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dschuetz11's picture

These things are well and good, given the Buckeyes continue to win like they did under Urban Meyer!

If there are a few “growing-pains” losses under Day, then things could change!

Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining!

~Judge Judy~

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