Inspired By Hometown and Family Tragedy, Ohio State Defensive Tackle Robert Landers Speaks Out About Mental Health

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semperfibuck's picture

One of my all-time favorite Buckeyes, Hiow can anyone not admire and respect B.B.?

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

So much respect for BB. I'm a person who has struggled with MH related issues, been to counseling, all that stuff. It can feel super lonely.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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IGotAWoody's picture

So good to acknowledge it, thanks for that Eddie. The truth I believe that EVERYONE struggles with mental illness to a certain degree and at certain times. But most people don't acknowledge it. Won't acknowledge it. Can't acknowledge it.

In my life, I have been abundantly blessed. But I've had times when my situation has dragged me down - or even just my perception of a situation. Counseling is just a great way to talk thru those difficult situations and find a little understanding, a little comfort, and a path back to that essential balance that we all strive for.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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analyticalguy's picture

This is a very good message from B.B.

But, if he's still struggling with his own issues, all these years later, he should follow his advice to others and get some counseling. It coukd help put those issues to bed, rather than risking the chance that they pop up again when he's in his post-football life, with less of a support system than he has at Ohio State.

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CowCat's picture

Counseling can work, but it doesn't always. I had a brief bout of depression after college and tried counseling. It actually made things worse, as the counselor didn't have much experience. It's important to find someone qualified. In the end it's up to the patient to work their way out of things, a counselor can only listen and help guide the way.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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IGotAWoody's picture

A good counselor is not only a good listener, but they can also suggest ways that you can analyze your situation and see those situations from a new perspective.

It's really unfortunate that you ended up with an unqualified counselor. Too bad you weren't able to move on from the inexperienced person to someone that knew how to help.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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HeartbreakRidge's picture

I'm not sure I knew about the Dayton connection, and certainly being someone who lives down here, that means something.  Thanks for what you do, Robert, and go Bucks!

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GOOMBAY's picture

Anyone else want to do better today?

Respect, B.B.

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Trebor40's picture

Thank you sir, those who share in your life are better for it. 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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BillShermansGhost's picture

Kudos BB; a big step towards improving mental health is talking about it and helping others understand.

If anyone here is looking for resources; please check out https://www.nami.org/;  Nami stands for National Alliance on Mental Illness. 

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Sanitarian2's picture

I find the line between mental health issues, mental illness if you will and the experiencing of completely normal and expected emotions to be difficult to define. I suppose in the end it's the duration and intensity that makes the difference. Being scared to speak in public, being overwhelmed by experiences in your life, being anxious about your future, worrying about things, being down and sometimes a bit blue are all completely normal and not mental health illness in my personal opinion.

I'm an excessive worrier, running stupid scenario's through my head over and over and fretting about them. I have learned to deal with that weakness but I wouldn't call that a mental illness. It's difficult to understand a profession that cannot deliver straight answers but it's all a shade of gray.

Sani

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HeartbreakRidge's picture

I think to mental health professionals one of the big differences is going to be if those normal emotions are so intense or pervasive that they have a severe and/or chronic negative impact upon doing your day to day life.

Human beings are complicated.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Pretty much it. Being emotional and cognitive of your mental state probably does not suggest mental illness. When you are impaired from making basic and instinctive decisions that endanger you, however, you should seek help.

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BrewinBuckFan's picture

That is the same line for regular illness too isn't it?  You might have a cold and be fine in a few days or due to a confluence of factors that cold could become pneumonia requiring medical intervention.  Take your example of being scared to speak in public, if you push through and practice and get comfortable with it after a few tries then that's like having a cold so to speak but if that fear is so intense that is causes you to miss professional or social opportunities then I would classify it as a mental health issue.  Also, like traditional illness  not all mental health issues are permanent.

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Sanitarian2's picture

Good points and I suppose it depends upon each individual's pain, physical or mental thresholds. Some people can tolerate physical pain and get my fine while others need drugs to cope.

Sani

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Meatchickeneater's picture

I actually want to be Robert's friend! Reading his comments makes me feel very fortunate. I too lost my father at a time when I was just becoming a young adult.My father was just becoming a friend after years of him being an alcoholic and abusive person. His advice about surrounding yourself with good people is fantastic! I know it sounds like I am rambling but this post really hit a special place in my heart!

BB is now my favorite Buckeye of all time! I don't say that lightly

You never get a second chance to make the first impression

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MY POP OSU Band Member 1940's's picture

What a wonderful friend he would be!

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CowCat's picture

Reach out to BB on Twitter or whatever. He'd probably appreciate it.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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wyatt's picture

It takes guts to even bring up the subject of mental health. A great first step.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Football aside, I think his comments solidify my respect for LJ and Day.  Especially LJ, he is an older guy, back when you were taught to ignore the thoughts in your head and "be a man".  To evolve in an environment that he is in daily, he cares about these kids.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Increased respect and appreciation for this young man. Very glad your friends and family weren't hurt (or worse). Keep putting out a positive message. Some could really use positive words and some hope.

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MY POP OSU Band Member 1940's's picture

Thanks for all you do Coach Day for mental health awareness and for talking care of Robert.  He is a great young man and has a lot to offer others who deal with this horrible illness.  Keep up  your great work Robert!

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

I have always Thought BB was a hell of a player. The truth is he is one hell of a person. We wish him the best and are happy he is a Buckeye.

Mark May is a mental midget

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dudesweet's picture

What a great young man by telling his story he may help someone else to open up and seek help, mom has to be proud of him. For me it is a struggle at times becouse of spending 14 months in combat. I feel for all the young men and women today that have to do more than one tour of duty in a war zone it's not something the mind can always process without mental issues. Can only wish Robert the best.

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Rockfordbuckeye's picture

Brave guy and I’m so glad he feels supported enough to talk about things openly. Good job Buckeyenation. These are kids - not robots. Let’s remember that this year when they struggle. 

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BuckeyeinRaleigh's picture

All I can say, is he just became my favorite player.

ScottinRaleigh

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joeorozco12's picture

I am crying like a baby right now. B.B. Landers, you are helping more people than you know!

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

Childhood trauma — referred to as Adverse Childhood Experiences— in particular is now understood to have negative lifetime repercussions on both mental and physical health.   Best of luck to B.B., I’m sorry to learn of his devastating loss.   https://acestoohigh.com/

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rcr1954's picture

To quote Zeke, BB is a "grown-ass man!"  It takes strength and courage to share your story like he has.  He truly is paying forward like Woody used to preach.  BB is also a hell of a football player!  It's a privilege to root for him.

Buck One

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