I think with last year, it really is tough to get in that groove when you're going in the game then coming out. I know they always talk about the rhythm with the QB position, but I think in some ways you can make that same argument just about anywhere on the field.
I expect that Dobbins is going to get noticed on a national level this year.
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They rotated his freshman year too. Our run game just sucked in general last season, I don’t think it was the fault of Dobbins or Weber
I’m feeling a solid 1800 yd season
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Last year the offensive line was really great at pass-pro but only so-so at run blocking. This made sense since we had a pro-style QB and not a dual-threat QB like the year before. I think this year will be better for JK if only because we'll have Fields.
I think the collection of 7-8 studs we have on the Oline has a much higher talent ceiling than last year's group. Hopefully they gel quickly and find that elusive chemistry that we all love to see. If that happens, JK will go off again in 2019.
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I suspect the running game picks up a ton with the threat of a true running QB. There were just far too many plays where Haskins was moving slowly with the ball in his hands with no real threat at running allowing defenses to focus on the running back. It made the offense very one dimensional. I just hope Fields can throw half as accurate as Haksins, I don't want to go back to watching the JT Barrett style QB run 20 times a game.
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If JK Dobbins is getting more yards because we're also running our QB a whole lot more than we did last season, I'm gonna temper my (some would say overly) optimistic outlook for our playoff chances this season.
Unless Gunnar Hoak steps up in a (somewhat unexpected) huge way, we'll have practically no depth at QB this year. I just don't see a smart guy like Coach Day incorporating his only elite QB in to the rushing attack in a major way - especially early in the season. I anticipate Coach Day will run Fields just enough to keep opposing defenses aware of the threat he poses as a runner - no more than that.
The flip side is that contrary to some of the great running QBs we've had in the past, I believe Fields will be a much better passer than many are expecting under Coach Day's guidance. With Fields, our stockpile of talented receivers and with (what sounds like is gonna be) a fine O-line - defenses will have to shift at least some of their focus off our running game.
That should create opportunities for JK -
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Again, if you don’t play to the strengths of your elite dual-threat QB because you’re scared he might get hurt, you might as well not have an elite dual threat QB. Just put Hoak in there. I actually expect we’ll see him running more early in the season until he gets comfortable with Day’s passing scheme, and just passing in college in general.
"Just put Hoak in there"
I haven't heard Hoak spoken of in terms that would suggest he has skills even approaching Fields'. I'm sticking with my approach. Run Fields just enough to keep opposing defenses on their heels - early in the season. Not workhorse-like reps.
Hopefully, we'll be looking at the possibility of a playoff invitation by late in the season - with a healthy Fields Its unlikely that would be the case with Hoak -
I think JK is hungry and ready to roll. He should help the new faces and new offensive philosophy, and vice-versa.
He doesn't have to carry the Buckeyes, but he definitely will be a big part in Ohio State's success this fall.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
2018 stats were solely due to a pure pocket passer with no mobility.
You can definitely have a great running game with a pocket passer. I think it was more a combination of play calling and Studs lack of ability to coach RPO blocking schemes along with playing 5 offensive tackles on the line.
I think at some point Dobbins has to own some of the responsibility as well. This thread has every excuse in the book for him when to me, he just didn’t look as good. He didn’t cut as well, looked slower, danced around behind the line without hitting the holes, and didn’t look as hungry. I noticed it during the season and commented on it. I don’t think it’s a given that Dobbins just magically busts out with 7.2 yards per carry this year. As I always say, I’m rooting for him, but if I ever need to come up with a million reasons why something didn’t go my way without taking any blame myself, I’m coming to you guys.
Dobbins definitely deserves some of the responsibility. The good thing is he seems to have taken all of the responsibility from what were seeing in interviews so we should see improvement from him. It's just that the running game is so dependent on Oline play and the fact that the weaknesses on the Oline were so well documented when it comes to Studs lack of ability and the fact that we were playing 5 tackles. I think it's important to remember that Weber didn't have the greatest year either and both were getting hit in the backfield on a regular basis.
And I’m willing to say other variables were at play, such as five tackles playing across the line, that led to poor push and poor run blocking. I just hold to the Dobbins not looking as good nonetheless. I know Weber didn’t have an amazing yards per carry but averaging a full yard more on every touch is pretty significant when ur talking four vs five yards per carry. Weber also hit that extra gear and hit some home runs that Dobbins just never seems to be able to hit.
A pissed off and hungry JK is going to dominate this year.
The OL was not good in the run game last year.
With that said, Dobbins was not overly impressive. The jump cut is neat, but he dances way too much and needs to hit the crease and go much more. Hoping he improves on that this year. Even with the bad line considered he was not overly impressive last year.
4.6 ypc stinks
I agree WorthyBuck. At times he can run like a glorified scat back. Let's hope he's patient, looks for the crease and goes! I also agree with a few comments regarding having a QB who is a run threat. This will open holes for JK and give him more room. One other thing that caught my eye with his stats is that in spite of sharing duty with Weber last year he still had more carries. If he can increase his YPC to 6-6.5 I think he will have a great year. I really do hope that he and Fields stay healthy. The depth at Running Back and QB is my biggest concern this year.
Especially the unnecessary jump cut 30 yards downfield when he’s out of gas
That’s another thing that doesn’t get mentioned is for how fast he is, how the hell does he get caught from behind so often? Weber is over there hitting home runs while Dobbins was getting caught from behind.
I'm really looking forward to defenders looking silly thanks to that ridiculous jump cut again!
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Last year was mental. Coach Alford talked about it a lot in the spring and about getting JK back to his old self and handling the mental aspects of the game better..
1) Our OL should be a better run blocking OL
2) The read option threat with Fields will help open things up for him
3) JK needs to run as hard as he did vs TCU, each and every game.
Crazy to think that were just a few months away from wide eyed freshman Dobbins declaring and rolling out for the NFL
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One really good thing I've noticed about Dobbins throughout his career is that he is not fumble prone. I look for a much better year from JK due to his own focus and also the ability of Justin Fields to run. Defenses will have to be aware that the Buckeyes in 2019 will have a running QB to deal with, whereas last season Dwayne Haskins was a rare run option.
The offensive line will be better at run blocking.
This is the main thing
I’m all for a QB that can run like Pryor with JT’s instincts if the passing game isn’t in sync right away.
But 6’6 interior linemen struggle getting low on run blocking.
I feel really good about our running game this coming season but I think Teague will play a major role in that also. Good mind set by Dobbins.
I feel like we're all sleeping on Teague.
I think our OL will be improved this year in run blocking. We actually have players playing in their natural positions this year, as opposed to having 5 offensive tackles on the field manning the line. Jackson, Myers, and Davis will be far more punishing run blockers due to their shorter statures allowing them to get lower and dig out NT/DTs more effectively. IMO, a lot of our run blocking woes last year were due to our interior OL being too tall to generate leverage effectively. Great for pass blocking, as the longer reach makes it more difficult for DL to engage with their hands, but it hurts when you simply have to get lower than the other guy and root him out of his gap.
Not to mention with teams having to worry about QB keepers (hopefully not too many) in the run game, lanes should be naturally more open for Dobbins, who hopefully focuses on finding the crease and hitting it hard, as opposed to dancing around trying to break the big one.
That is all it is. Lining up option with out an actual read didn’t help.
Archie, Eddie, Mo, Beanie, Carlos, Zeke, and now JK. Wow it's amazing as a die hard Buckeye fan how blessed we have been at the tailback position! Cant wait for Dobbins to tote the rock this year. He is always smiling even though hes looking to rip opposing fans heart out with every carry. He will go down as one of the best to ever wear a Buckeye uni imo.
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Thank you for filling the gap between Archie and Eddie. Byars and Raymont are legends in their own right as far as I'm concerned. Not to mention record holder Smith
Thanks, I knew there was a few I missed but no excuse for missing Byars. Loved Raymont and Robert as well.
Everyone got the idea, and it was a great point about our RB history. I was just trying to see if I could think of any others for fun. :)
Haskins was never a run threat and everyone new that. Get your ass down the field JK and hurt some people. We didn't come here to kiss babies!
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Made a bet with a buddy his freshman year that he would be a top ten pick by the end of his junior year... I've tempered my expectations down but hope he really comes out like his freshman year like we all know he can esp with fields being able to run ... I think I might of lost the bet, we will see after the season ... I still say 1st or 2nd round pick just ain't sure about top 10
I think if JK would have of stayed around his weight at HS, The Opening and true frosh year he would be much better off. JK has put on a lot of mass compared to those times where he was running 4.44.
I really have never seen a player react to bulking up so badly as JK though. You can only blame the offensive line for so much for last year, as Mike Weber was an all around much better option for us and his ypc were good. I wish JK the best of luck this season and would like to see him attempt to match his 2017 numbers.
I've taken heat for saying I think JK Dobbins is an NFL prospect as an undrafted free agent. Mike Weber was only a 7th round selection and I think he is a definetley a notch above JK as he's faster and more physical, not as elusive but certainly a better all around RB in my opinion. It will certainly be interesting to see when it's all said and done exactly where Mel Kiper and Todd McShay have him at and what they have so say about Mr.Dobbins.
All in all I wish the young man great success at whatever career path he ends up with or in.
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JK sounds a lot more mature and prepared to lead this year. My favorite part of being a college football fan is watching the incredible growth of some of these players.