Class of 2020 Recruiting News (Part 63)

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LouBuck35's picture

Actually Part 63.  I don't want to sell us short on getting to Part 69.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

For those who haven't seen it yet here's Kevontre Bradford's junior film:

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9956447/5bfd98784df57610acbfe609

Big fan of this offer and again we could do much worse than landing guys like Bradford and EJ Smith. All things considered I think we've pretty much nailed OOS recruits this cycle so far. Can't win 'em all. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Agree Spooner. Any back Wisconsin is in on I have to be happy with. 

Bradford and Smith would be the 2 I go after. If Robinson comes back around then so be it. I wouldn't even mess with Knighton. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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LouBuck35's picture

Same.  There haven't been a ton of starting RBs in recent memory from Wisconsin that I wouldn't have minded having with the Buckeyes.
 

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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dgrimm_6's picture

Bradford has such long strides and he runs so smooth, i like this kid.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Maybe a little Robert Smith-esque?  

Fields of Dreams

 

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seyekcuB's picture

People forget how Robert Smith basically carried that offense his freshman year. Guy was absolutely insane and if he didnt quit his so. Season he would have won a Heisman his Jr. Year.

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ELJTSA76's picture

He’s not Robert Smith. That’s laughable. 

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ELJTSA76's picture

I guess you guys never saw Robert Smith play... too bad. 

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

In support of your statement, J Taylor the Wisconsin star running back , he was rated 371 Nationally, 24th rated running back and just 8th rated in NJ. His offers consisted if Wisconsin, Albany, Rutgers and the navy. I found a bunch of these examples. Bradford scores better than Taylor ratings wise

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Kangarooman's picture

We did steal  a RB recently (Antonio Williams) from Wisconsin.  He was top 200 and washed out of our program in 2 years...

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Rgeiger24's picture

I think Williams is pretty good at UNC

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

Said it in the last thread but I would be very happy to haul in Bradford and Smith.  Bijan is great but these two are more than capable running backs and Bradford looks like an effortless strider.

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CardaleFTW's picture

The taunting he did at 1:16 was hilarious... he better not be doing that in a Buckeye uniform though.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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seyekcuB's picture

We could do way worse. That kid is legit.

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Trout dog's picture

How much worse? We are tOSU and are on plan B for the third year in a row.  

Trout Dog

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Well for starters Brian Snead wasn’t plan B. And as far as “how much worse” then I’d have to say Ohio State (or any major program) could do a hell of a lot worse than the nation’s 18th-best back. 

'57Champs's picture

But how much worse?  I mean, we COULD be having serious discussions about starting the 188th ranked safety at RB.

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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Trout dog's picture

If you believe recruiting is the best indicator of your ability to win a national championship getting the 18th best running back in the nation isn’t going to make you feel that the future of the position is bright. 

Trout Dog

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Drewbdu's picture

Saquon Barkley was the 13th ranked RB in 2015. He did just fine. RB is one of those positions where you want the best player possible of course, but it’s just not a huge deal who you get as long as they fit the system. As many on here have stated, a three star RB behind a bunch of five stars at OL will look far better than a five star RB behind a bunch of three star OL. 

As long as our OL is elite, our RBs will perform at an elite level. Simple as that. 

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EBBuck03's picture

LOVE this offer. Competition he plays against is very good as well. As others have said, I’d be more than happy with Bradford and Smith.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per Birm the schools among the leaders for Bradford were Baylor, Wisconsin, Okie State, USC

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/ohio-state-bucke...

Also one of the 247 insiders from TX told BK last time he talked to Bradford he said he wanted to get away for college. Still gonna wait to hear from insiders in that area on our chances. Doesn't hurt that JSN and Bradford's teams play each other in that division so maybe he can help our chances a lot here. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Givler I guess spoke to Bradford. Can't read it all but seems the kid is very excited. Having Zeke in Dallas has to help. Kid should know all about the RB position at OSU. Watched his film...kid is pretty smooth. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Abuckeye15's picture

Film looks great, would definitely be happy with Bradford and Smith. 

36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"

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buckguyfan1's picture

Is this the "empty backfield" thread?

Simplify...

7-0 and a chance to go 8-0...

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SubUrban.Meyer's picture

Now everyone can back off the ledge and enjoy some Kevontre Bradford film.

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Drewbdu's picture

I posted this in the previous thread but I figure I’ll post it here again for easy access:

Class Calculator (Median Finish Last Five Years)

Prior Probable Class: 306.30 (3rd)

Robinson

Knighton

Watts

Cowan

Prior Best Case Class: 314.80 (2nd)

Robinson

Knighton

Evans

Ricks

Current Probable Class: 300.82 (3rd)

Bradford

Smith

Cowan

Watts

Current Best Case Class: 310.13 (3rd)

Bradford

Smith

Evans

Ricks

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Drewbdu's picture

At the end of the day, this turn of events really isn’t as big a deal as we’re making out it out to be. In 3/4 scenarios, our 5-year median ranking is 3rd. 2021 looks even better. Sure it’s a bit of a bummer that we won’t get that 5 star and 4 star pair, but we’re still going to end up with a 4 star pair. The class overall is affected only marginally by that loss. 

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huffdaddy's picture

If you would have told me that Day would go over 300 points in his first year recruiting, I would have been pumped.

I doubt we finish 3rd, though - Georgia has too much left in the tank. Think we wind up either #4 or #5, but that is largely because Clemson, Alabama and Georgia are recruiting at a monstrous level right now. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Drewbdu's picture

Yeah I’d say fourth or fifth, which is insane considering the median finish for our projected class is second or third the last few years. 

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Dmac3212's picture

What makes those players probable? 

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1983Buckeye's picture

I agree..  Hope like hell they are but a long way from signing day.. Is everyone set on Cowan as the d end?  Id be ok about that but Evans would be great.   Wonder who else LJ is in contact with? Those Tennessee boys Hardy or Barron.. Pretty sure Barron is a long shot.. Just wondering what everyone thinks 

Go Bucks

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Drewbdu's picture

It is less that those specific players are probable and more that I think we’ll probably get players around the caliber of those prospects (mid to high four stars at RB, APB, DL, and CB). Best case would be high 4 stars or five stars at those positions, which is the “best case” scenario above. 

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Buckeye52's picture

You can’t label 4 certain players as probable and then  later say “a player of that caliber”. The way I perceived your post was that we were probably going to land those 4 players, i I doubt we land 2. Btw the dvs weren’t from me

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Drewbdu's picture

The score is what I’m really looking at. I just plugged in the players listed to get that score. My point is just that we’ll probably end up around 298-302 points, but our best case would be around 308-312 points. That’s just the difference between being ranked 3rd in recent years and 2nd in recent years. 

Looking at the “probable” class, I see it like this:

We will probably get one of these players at each position:

APB: Smith, Drennen, Knighton, or another mid 4 star APB we haven’t heard of yet

RB: Bradford, Robinson, or another mid 4 star RB we haven’t heard of yet  

CB: Watts, Ricks, Francois, or another mid 4 star CB we haven’t heard of yet

DL: Cowan, Evans, Harris, Baron, or another mid 4 star DL we haven’t heard of yet

If those four players end up being mid 4 star guys, we end up around 300. If those four players end up being five star guys, we end up around 312. If we get a mix, it’ll be closer to 304-308. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Ok so here's some more info on Kevontre from Givler:

- He spoke with someone in Texas who is a big fan of Bradford's 
- Per this person Tre doesn't talk much and his teammate actually runs his social media account sometimes
- He does want to go out of state for college
- Looks like an everydown back with sprinter speed 

https://ohiostate.forums.rivals.com/threads/texas-rb-very-excited-about-...

Marc also put up an article from his exchange with Tre

- very excited about the offer 
- Likes a lot of things about tOSU and really likes the coaches
- Wants to visit as soon as possible 

https://ohiostate.rivals.com/news/buckeyes-offer-texas-running-back

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Get it done Alford .

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Well apparently this kid wants to get away for college so that looks like one major hurdle down. 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Robinson was willing to get away also, what's this kids grandparents want?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Forgot to add that he's already used up his Wisconsin official back in June.

Also my worthless player comp for him would be former USC back Ronald Jones. 

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1983Buckeye's picture

Wasn't he a 2nd round pick?  If so , definitely not a bad comparison to have 

Go Bucks

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Cincybuckeye's picture

Got some breaking news today, folks. I know we've talked about flipping Elias Ricks but I think Tyreke Johnson's tweet implies something different about Ryan Day's plans.

It appears that while renovating the Woody, Day installed a cloning machine. Although Tyreke refuses to be a clone, my guess would be that we will have a plethora of Okudahs and Wades available for years to come. This should make CB recruiting a lot easier going forward. Sorry Elias, you'll have to settle for LSU.

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Cincybuckeye's picture

C'mon Knar. Isn't it obvious? When the Bijan news broke, Day headed out to AZ to try to convince him to stay. It obviously didn't work. But, while out there, Day just shot over to Area 51 (gotta grab some cool tech before the raid on September 20th) and grabbed a cloning machine. He proposed the idea of cloning our current CB room to the guys. Tyreke tweets out that he refuses to be cloned (a clear subtweet at Day and staff). Now, we can only assume that the plan going forward is to simply clone our current guys to spend more time recruiting RBs. OBVIOUSLY, it's not confirmed that guys like Okudah and Wade agreed to this cloning technique. But, we can only hope they do.

It's pretty self-explanatory. I'm actually really surprised I needed to spell this out for you.

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BuckDrew's picture

Mmmk. Dad jokes galore right now

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Cincybuckeye's picture

This is the result of people posting the same Bijan updates for the last four days...and also three straight days of meetings with HR.

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buckslan's picture

I'll reply in here instead of the last thread. What exactly are the Zach Evans off the field concerns?

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SubUrban.Meyer's picture

I’m not exactly sure, but I know one of them is his maturity.

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buckslan's picture

Alright SwiftBuckeye, I seen your reply about him saying "F*** the Tide". I don't really think that's a big deal. Zeke got away with practically calling out the staff a few years ago. And I don't believe for a second that the Bama staff would not take his commitment. Unless he's actually getting in trouble with the law, getting in fights at school, suspension, etc, Im going to chalk it up as a teenager saying dumb stuff.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I personally don't know but I think from what I've read it would seems he's not a culture fit for our program. He's also not coming north to play football so there's that major hurdle too

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BuckDrew's picture

People just randomly target people and assume we are going to be in on them. Evans literally has not even attempted to be interested in us aside from a complete lie that he was visiting. 

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swflbuckeye1's picture

And he placed us in his top 5 

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BuckDrew's picture

What does that even mean without a visit? Congrats we are in 5th place. 

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Drewbdu's picture

He seems to love playing the game. Potential character issues aside, I think a commitment from him would be shaky at best. He released his top 5 (Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, and Oklahoma), but it wasn’t really a top 5. It seems like it was just a way to scare Texas and Texas A&M into recruiting him harder. He has since scheduled a visit to Ohio State only to not show up, instead visiting A&M and said “F*** Bama” on a livestream a few weeks ago. 

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buckslan's picture

He can still schedule an OV this fall. Until then he's not realistic either ways but once Texas lands Bijan, they are going to be out of it. All it takes is one visit.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

Would love to see Texas take Evans maybe that pushes Bijan back to us. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

I’d rather see Evans go elsewhere and Bijan later flips to us.  And Texas is left with nothing. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Txsbuckeye's picture

I respect him for playing the game. I say we go hard for him and and we go hard for Rakim Jarrett. While we’re at it maybe we take another shot at Chris Clark or Jermaine Eskridge.  

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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swflbuckeye1's picture

Your forgetting Justin Rogers

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Wasn't there a report that said hartline said no to Jarrett

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Drewbdu's picture

Yep. Reportedly his mom contacted Hartline saying Jarrett wanted in and Hartline told her he didn’t have any more room. That is a disputed rumor though. I think he ends up at Tennessee. 

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buckeyefan333's picture

Hey Spooner any chance you can link to the previous iteration of the thread at the top somewhere? Would make it easier to follow a conversation when I've missed a day or 2 of news.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

As opposed to the cumbersome and strenuous method of moving your mouse to the back button and clicking left mouse. Then scrolling down to the last numbered part and clicking left mouse again? 

This reminded me of a scene from Seinfeld where Elaine said she doesn't shake her bottles of juice before drinking bc it was too much work. Then Jerry ridiculed her by showing that it was indeed not too much work. 

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STL Buckeye's picture

A simple no would have sufficed.

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Northbrook's picture

Not all of us spend all day at the gym.

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buckeyefan333's picture

You didn't have to be a dick about it. I usually don't access these threads from the forum page, so your condescending instructions wouldn't apply if only one of the threads is on the homepage.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Wasnt even trying be a dick. I was just pointing out all i'd be saving you is literally 5-10 seconds of your life depending on your internet. 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Wasnt even trying be a dick.

so it just comes natural?

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ELJTSA76's picture

Dude, figure it out. This is a forum where people post mindless bs so fast that Spooner keeps having to make new threads despite the complete dearth of information day after day - it’s just whining and debating about the dumbest things. If you want to be a part of it, use your mouse or thumbs and stop bitching that he won’t put a link to the prior useless thread in the current thread. My god, I thought my kids were lazy and entitled!

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Kangarooman's picture

Can’t believe this dude is getting upvotes after talking to Spooner like he’s a waiter lol

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Could you also include Part 59?

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

37 was really good too while we’re at it.  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

BK just posted that OSU is getting ready to “crank things up” with Drennen. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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buckslan's picture

I haven't even watched his film. Is he suppose to be a Jaylan Knighton replacement? And if he's out at slot, I think Jaelen Gill will shift back to the RB room after this season. We'll have a young fresh group of H-backs/Slot receivers next year with JSN, Mookie Cooper, and possibly Drennen if he fills that position.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I don’t think Drennen even is a running back. He is more of a slot...which they have cooper for. 

I would much rather have smith for the APB.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Yeah Givler said they'd be talking back to him but he's still be on a lower tier even with the remaining targets left. 

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EBBuck03's picture

Hard pass on Drennen for me.

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buckslan's picture

Drennen has offers from FSU, Bama, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Florida, Miami, Michigan, ND, PSU, Stanford and OSU. I doubt he's being recruited by most of those schools but that is still a pretty impressive offer list.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

He’s not bad, but if we are being honest he’s probably a take for only two of them at most. That may even be generous. 

Edit: I was mistaken. He has been officially offered by nearly all of them.

KBonay's picture

He's ranked waaay to high to be a take for Michigan....

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buckslan's picture

I'd like to see the staff take just 1 RB and go for 2 in 2021. Perhaps Donovan Edwards out of TSUN and Jaylen Anderson from Ohio. 247 says Anderson is 6'1" and 210lbs. I love that size for a RB.

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Washmore24's picture

it’s not relevant but I think the person Lejond was subtweeting was Knighton. None of the OSU commits follow him on instagram anymore

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Bradford interview with Gabe Brooks of 247

-OSU offer was a "needle mover"

-Said it got his attention. Likes that it is a big school. 

-Said Alford likes his film and how he would fit at OSU.

-Looks forward to visiting OSU as soon as possible. 

-Does not want to stay in Texas. Wants to get out and explore something new. 

-Wanted to decide before his senior season but the timeline has changed..esp with this offer. Very excited. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Bucksknowwhatitis's picture

Hell yeah brother. Let’s lock up the RB position. 

The Future is Bright at Ohio State

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dubjayfootball90's picture

I still think we land Bijan. If not tomorrow, then before first signing period

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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ELJTSA76's picture

Seems possible, so I’m hoping too. 

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buckslan's picture

Doubtful. I don't think OSU can overcome the distance factor, it's obviously a big deal in this recruitment. After tomorrow it'll be time to move on. Time to focus on EJ Smith and Tre Bradford.

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Txsbuckeye's picture

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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Sanitarian2's picture

So distance isn't an issue with Smith or is his family more willing to let him make up his own mind?

Sani

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Drewbdu's picture

I’d assume distance will be much less of a factor for Smith since his family is very wealthy and could fly out to every game or simply buy a home in Columbus to watch him play. 

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

And Dad has traveled constantly since college. 

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Bucks19's picture

With Stanford the leader for Smith, distance is not a factor. 

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KBonay's picture

Bijan is worth the wait.  But, unfortunately, we need to move forward.  Can't risk not getting a quality guy(s) 'just in case' Bijan changes his mind.  I agree we keep contact with him, but not at the expense of any other RB's who are wanting in. 

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BornAndBredABuckeye's picture

I agree with this. If he truly wants to be at OSU, he should postpone his announcement. If he chooses someone else tomorrow, we need to focus on a different pair of backs.

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SubUrban.Meyer's picture

A cloudy CB was just put in for Elias Ricks, gonna wait to see if more come in before I get excited, but pretty interesting.

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EBBuck03's picture

Yea, that was confusing to me as well.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

That's nothing if not interesting. 

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Drewbdu's picture

Roach has a VIP article up about the crystal balls he just put in. Can anyone see it?

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

It’s nothing to do with OSU.  Biggest thing is Ringo to Georgia which everyone (but Kyle Lamb) already knew. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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EBBuck03's picture

He said he accidentally changed it and didn’t mean to so changed it to foggy. Nothing to se here.

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

This is Ohio State. We run the ball here! We dont take a back seat to any school. We are not a school to settle on 2ndcrate players
We are a school that has to beat em off with a stick. Not get out there and get the best.

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BTSBuckeye's picture

We're also a program who molds "3* prospects" into first round draft picks.

People need to move on and realise we'll end up with recruits who want to be Buckeyes, and most of them will be extremely productive for the program.

If you're getting an offer from Ohio State, you're not a 2nd tier anything.

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Brohio's picture

Let's switch gears here and have some fun. So many different predictions are going out from our "insiders" and just like you I've been ping ponging back and forth between all of them trying to make sense of this Bijan shit, but that's not what I want to talk about. Through this stretch of recent events, I got to thinking...which insider is most reliable? Therefore, let's try someting out....OSU INSIDERS POWER RANKINGS

A lot of you guys have been following this shit longer than I have so I'm curious to see what everyone says. Rank the following insiders based on how accurate they are, and how connected they are within the program. 

Birm
BG
Givler
BK
Nevada
AE
Kyle Lamb
Also if I'm missing anyone, add them in (Kurelic excluded). 

Rank them 1-7. Let's hear it. 
 

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GunnerBuck's picture

Why exclude Kurelic?

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Brohio's picture

Typo. BK = Kurelic. I meant to type Wiltfong there

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GunnerBuck's picture

I thought you meant BK was Kurelic. I was confused haha. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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buckslan's picture

Pretty sure AE has stated numerous times that he's not an insider. Not really fair to put him on there.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Maybe so, but he still seems to be in contact with recruits and people close to them. 

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GetBuckedUp's picture

Make a separate topic about this please. Let's keep this one to recruiting news and info.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

247 insider Gabe Brooks says we are "in a very good spot" for Kevontre. 

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Ludwig Yards's picture

I love the smell of a good recruiting update in the morning. 

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camcop71's picture

Better than we were with Robinson and Knighton last Saturday?

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back so I just ran him over.” -Joey Bosa, PSU 10/25/14

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Day_Man's picture

BK reaffirming that OSU will go after Drennen to make him the APB of the class, while also going after Bradford as the pure running back. Says OSU remains in contact with EJ Smith, as well.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Love Bradford. I am starting to wonder if OSU take Bradford, Smith and Drennen. 

Could want to get all three in the class and figure Drennen’s spot later if Smith commits.

Personally feel Smith is going to pick Stanford and OSU will be left taking Drennen as the APB. I really don’t think Drennen is close to OSU level. 

BK also said OSU will not go after any of the Ohio backs other than Drennen.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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EBBuck03's picture

Really not sold on Drennen whatsoever.  I'd much rather have EJ Smith as the APB.  Drennen is very overrated IMO.

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Day_Man's picture

are you just basing that off his film? He looks pretty good -- granted, I haven't really watched other APBs' film like Knighton or Smith. I think if the OSU coaches think he's a take, then I'm on board with it as well

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HINYG8's picture

Have an UV to counter that silly DV..you asked a fair question.

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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HINYG8's picture

Not sniping, genuinely asking: have you watched him play? 

Offer list and film look really solid. Curious as to why you are not excited about him. Just a vibe...or you've watched him...or there are others you think are better prospects? Most of us never get a chance to see these kids play and make our own evaluation. Curious what the basis of your comment is.

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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EBBuck03's picture

I actually have seen him play and I wasn’t overly impressed. As stated on here before, he’s likely not a take for a lot of the “big” offers he had. As far as expects go, I know BG wasn’t sold on him at all either and he wasn’t necessarily a take for the staff before last week, so he’s the definition of a Plan B guy.

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HINYG8's picture

Thanks for clarifying. 

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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Day_Man's picture

BG just CB'd Drennen to the good guys

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Sims_tOSU's picture

People calling Drennen overrated are doing so based off of so called “experts”. In reality, I’ll take coach days opinion any day of the week over these experts. Give the kid a chance before everyone trashes him. 

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BTSBuckeye's picture

I like Drennen.   He's got impressive power for his size and good speed.  

If he was an Ohio State fan growing up and was all in on the culture, he'd be a no brainer for the class IMHO.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I think Drennen is alright and Ohio State could certainly do way worse. But how do you know the people calling him overrated are doing so “based off of so-called experts” and not because it’s painfully obvious that he’s not a take by most of the power programs who have offered?

Edit: I was mistaken. He has been officially offered by nearly all of them.

DeacBuck's picture

Certainly not saying you're wrong by any means, but why would so many power programs extend noncommittal offers? One or two, sure, but why would 10+ programs waste their time offering someone who they consider not to be a take?

Go Bucks, Deacs, Panthers, Braves

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BTSBuckeye's picture

He's Top 10 at this position for a reason.

Dude has a .9216 rating in the Composite.   That doesn't usually happen unless you've displayed good skill and talent.

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Txsbuckeye's picture

Maybe the programs like his hair

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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Andrew Ellis's picture

The act of extending an offer isn’t exactly time consuming. The time consuming part is all the effort and time you put into a kid you really really want. 

BTSBuckeye's picture

I think what they are saying is that you never offer a player if they're not someone your willing to accept a commitment from.  That can put you in an awkward place and actually hurt recruiting efforts.

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DeacBuck's picture

I would imagine most schools are going to spend a lot of time scouting a kid before extending an offer, even if its noncommittal. I know some schools (Tennessee, cough) throw out hundreds of offers every year, but most seem to be fairly scrupulous with them. The entire act of offering a kid but telling him he can't commit seems like it would rub a lot of recruits, HS coaches, etc the wrong way and burn some bridges, but I guess that's just the world we live in.

Go Bucks, Deacs, Panthers, Braves

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Sims_tOSU's picture

AE nothing but respect for you but why would Ohio state take him if they didn’t say he was a take? I know you have a lot of insight but I’ll still take the coaches over your opinion. 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I’m confused. What do you mean?

Sims_tOSU's picture

You say he’s not osu caliber, the staff thinks he is. I’ll trust the staff over your opinion. 

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'57Champs's picture

No offense, but the "I'll trust the staff" is my least favorite of all the overplayed statements about recruiting.

You've got your "stars don't matter"

"In-state kids want it more"

"This kid is criminally underrated"

But when you just say "I'll trust the coaches," it removes all sense of critical thinking.  The coaches didn't turn to this kid until other options went South, so what does this statement even mean?

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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BTSBuckeye's picture

"The coaches didn't turn to this kid until other options went South"

What does that even mean? None of these kids have even played their Senior seasons.   We're 6 months from even having the ability to lock recruits into the program.   No coach worth their salt is going to burn all their bridges to other recruits just because a recruit pinky promises that they're committed.

Ohio State isn't even guaranteed to land the kids already committed.  Recruiting continues ...

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Kangarooman's picture

The "trust the coaches" argument has always been from the fans who disagree with what some one says but are too cowardly to explain why.

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stxbuck's picture

Yes-other options went south-Knighton, Pollard, Robinson. The staff isn't going to over-offer, or offer-over if they are still in the game for their top targets-they can only have so many RBs on the roster. This isn't the 70s where Woody or Bear would offer a kid just to keep them away from Purdue/LSU/Ole Miss/scUM, even if they had better players in the class and didn't anticipate said player getting a ton of playing time. Players want to go to Bama or tOSU as their first choice-the staff can afford to be pickier than UK or MSU or Tennessee or Nebraska. 1st World problems.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Yeah I got that part. 

“why would Ohio state take him if they didn’t say he was a take?”

That’s the part I’m not following. He’s not committed or anything. 

Byaaaahhh's picture

I think he's saying "Why would OSU take him if the other schools in the offer list wouldn't?"

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logamaniac's picture

Nobody has taken him yet though soooo...

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Except he wouldn't have been a take for the Buckeyes until the RB class suddenly collapsed so I think it's more complicated than if Drennen is OSU "caliber" or not. It's just that he probably wouldn't have been the staff's top few choices at APB. Look, it happens. Every cycle there is a position that just doesn't pan out as far as the staff landing the targets it really wants. Luckily for us, that usually is limited to one position. A few years back it was DT, then it was OT, then we didn't land a CB last cycle. It happens. 

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tampatom's picture

I just thought with changes they might just move Martinez to the all purpose back

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

BK just said Drennen is the guy the staff has ticketed for the APB spot in this class. 

Seem Bradford is the three down back.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

I reached out to a high school coach buddy  in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and he said Bradford is a top level talent and he’s talked to Wisconsin staff and they are very unhappy that OSU is now in on Bradford. He told my buddy, Wisconsin thought they could sneak him in, my buddy hopes he chooses us, with JK probably going to the pros, etc, kid is top shelf in both talent and desire. Alford, get on this kid 24/7, my coach buddy has me fired up now

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Can you find out his current height/weight? On film he looks bigger than 5-11 190 and is been reported he's put on a lot of good weight this offseason. TIA

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

I’ll call my contact but he’s probably got his team out about now, 11:30 in Texas , heat you know lol 

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Okay Spooner, I got a couple of minutes. Bradford is around 197 now. He had a few minor injuries over the course of playing but nothing of significance, he doesn’t follow recruiting services, so he thinks maybe that’s why his rankings are not higher but since December, kids offers have been poring in. He does have track speed but also very elusive, will run over or around you, great hands too so if they aren’t noting that, they are nuts, lol. Thinks with the right kind of training staff, this kid should be special, thinks Bradford has the frame to hit 220 without hurting his speed etc. Hope that helps 

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Knarcisi's picture

That’ll do. 

Thanks for the insight. 

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Triv's picture

Thinks with the right kind of training staff, this kid should be special, thinks Bradford has the frame to hit 220 without hurting his speed etc. Hope that helps

Coach Mick + Kid with frame for 220 = Kid playing at 220

Yeah, that definitely helps. Good shit Raleigh. A kid with track speed playing at 220 would be just fine for this RB class.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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NHBuckeye's picture

Thanks for the info, Raleigh!  This kid sounds very promising.  Let's get this done pronto!

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1983Buckeye's picture

Would love Martinez on offense but think the coaches and even he might prefer safety? Not sure on that tho.. He is going to be a play maker where ever they put him.. One of my fav recruits

Go Bucks

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I wonder what this all means for EJ Smith...I wonder if this is simply they like drennen better for the APB or if they feel Smith is not as interested. 

Cannot see drennen and smith being in this class together. 

BG explains his CB for drennen as if the OSU staff wants him they will get him and it looks as if the staff does want him in this class. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Maybe feel Drennen is the safer bet as we head into fall and that chasing Smith, to your point, might leave us empty-handed at APB. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

My feeling also. Think they want to get the APB committed as soon as possible and then chase Robinson, Bradford and whoever else they look at. 

It’s interesting because most of us had drennen in this class before the summer as the APB. And we were all satisfied with that.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Seems right. If the staff feels Smith and Drennen are in a similar tier of talent but Drennen will be quick to commit and Smith will be a fight, they may just want to get a back in the class.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

The complicated thing for EJ is the official scheduled for Stanford in January. Now Givler said he had heard it's possible EJ may not want to wait till after the first signing period to commit. My preference would still be him first then Drennen/Berger. Now Gleitman did say this morning Alford spoke with Berger on Tuesday this week. He also said he thinks Jalen is hoping we pick up our effort recruiting him too. 

The one thing the previous 2 RB recruitments reiterated to us is that things can change on a dime in recruiting. So I always like to do a wait and see approach that includes a majority consensus from our insiders and a few national people in the region for OOS kids. 

But I think we should be able to land any combo of EJ/Drennen/Bradford/Berger. Then in the event we don't land any of those I would say it's an official disaster for that position this cycle. 

Edit: in the case of Drennen vs EJ the staff may actually view them as the same prospect for that role. If that's the case it might be a question of why waste the resources when you can easily land the kid that's in your own backyard. 

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Ludwig Yards's picture

Edit: in the case of Drennen vs EJ the staff may actually view them as the same prospect for that role. If that's the case it might be a question of why waste the resources when you can easily land the kid that's in your own backyard. 

Yeah. As far as the APB goes, I don't see much difference between Smith and Drennen. 

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EBBuck03's picture

There is zero reason for the staff to rush anything here.  Just because BG put in a CB for Drennen in no way shape or form means we're taking him tomorrow.  I think we have just reset the board and are starting to reach out to a lot of the local guys to take their temperature.  I expect this to be a slow process and the staff will take his time.  FWIW, I'd take EJ Smith all day long over Drennen (not trying to be a dick) and I think there's plenty of time to win Smith.

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jdecot's picture

When comparing the film, I do think EJ Smith is the more talented player and with his dad being one of if not the top NFL RBs of all time, it is difficult to pass on blood lines like that. However, the staff cannot get caught in a place again where they go all in on Bradford and Smith only to have them decide that they want to go somewhere else. In Drennen's film, he does a good job running routes, catching the ball in traffic, and running the ball. He does not have breakaway speed though and that is where EJ Smith would have the edge. I do think that for an APB the staff is looking for a player who can run the ball between the tackles 4-6 times a game, catch some screen passes, wheel routes, and the occasional jet sweep. Think about it this way, Bradford has the ability to pick up yards between the tackles and all of the sudden, Drennen or Smith come in the game and catch a wheel route or tunnel screen for 20 yards. I think that both can do that. 

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stxbuck's picture

Bloodlines are important in the general sense, but assuming a kid is going to be All Pro/HoF caliber like their father is taking things way to far. Sometimes the sons are as talented as their fathers-the Manning bros., the Long bros.-Howie Long’s sons; sometimes they are not-Barry Sanders Jr., Eddie George’s son, Ray Lewis’ sons.

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Cincybuckeye's picture

Here's Drennen's film: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7772895/5bb3bf61a0223b0b7444bfd3

He's a good player. Wouldn't claim that he's not. Shows good hands and some nice elusiveness. But, I think it's a fair assessment to say that you'd hope to see more in a highlight reel from an OSU caliber player.  The lack of break away speed is apparent on the film which you'd hope to see from your APB option in the class. Definitely prefer EJ Smith over him but would understand the staff's inclination to want to take Drennen just due to proximity after getting burned by long-distance prospects.

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Triv's picture

I see a little Dontre Wilson in Drennan's tape.

Doesn't have that holy shit speed, but is quick and slippery - tough to bring down.

One thing I will say that is an elite trait is Drennan's balance. His ability to absorb contact and stay on his feet is head and shoulders better than what you typically would see from a HS Jr.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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ELJTSA76's picture

Maybe he looks like Dontre did in college, and it would be great if Drennen became (in college) what Wilson was. But... Dontre Wilson had one of the best HS tapes I’ve ever seen. The kid was amazing, on every play he flashed truly special talent, and against the best HS competition in the country. I still wonder how he didn’t turn into a star before the injuries. 

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Triv's picture

Definitely, I absolutely should have made that caveat. Exclusively referring to college Dontre here, which imo is what Drennan projects to best right now (Drennan looks to be a little more polished as a receiver though).

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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stxbuck's picture

Not a scorcher or especially great burst, but really good wiggle, making the first and second tackler miss.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I do think it's fair to move Drennen up a few rungs. Just not sure if the staff is wanting to get someone (not named Bijan Robinson) now or wait and see how their senior seasons play out. 

Kangarooman's picture

I don't get what the rush is for, honestly.  If we aren't getting our top targets then let it play out.  Kareem Walker looked like he was gonna be a god then regressed as his high school career played out.  Maybe some one has a huge senior year.  Maybe a college coach will get fired opening the door for a flip.  Maybe they'll be a huge scandal.  These kids still have a full year of football left lol

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NHBuckeye's picture

I like Drennen.  Many others have said that as well.  My only fear is, does he come into the program a little too small and we have another McCall situation on our hands?  Great talent but he struggles to get on the field.   I’ll be interested to see if Gill leapfrogs McCall.   It seems like we could be heading for that. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Drennen is currently 5-10.5 and 187lbs = bigger than McCall at the same stage

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Hanawi_'s picture

I'd prefer they ramp back up with Berger than Drennen personally. I was all-in on him being the APB from the beginning, even before they got involved with Knighton. Think he's pretty good.

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Tipp2Cbus's picture

The top 11 running backs drafted in the 2019 NFL draft through the first four rounds. 8 of the 11 were 3 stars and 6 of the 11 were higher than 800 in player ranking.

Josh Jacobs 3 star 469 Overall 

Miles Sanders 5 star 21 overall

Darrell Henderson 3 star 1905 overall 

David Montgomery 3 star 1203 overall

Devin Singletary 3 star 1926 overall

Damien Harris 5 star 31 overall

Alexander Mattison 3 star 661 overall

Bryce Love 4 star 227 overall

Justice Hill 3 star 963 overall

Benny Snell 3 star 876 overall

Tony Pollard 3 star 1820 overall

Nobody here should be so worried about running back recruiting, the coaches will find some guys and they will be good at OSU. If they don’t pan out there is always next year! 

Have we always been a dynasty ?

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buckslan's picture

I guess some butt hurt, offended start watcher gave you a DV. There's a long history of highly ranked busts and underrated 3* recruits doing well and getting drafted when it comes to RB.

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BuckDrew's picture

The math here is that there is only a handful of five stars, and hundreds of 3 stars. There could be more 3 stars in the nfl than any other rating. The hit rate isn’t the same though. This argument seems to never go away... just because AJ hawk was drafted that doesn’t mean you want to recruit 20 3 star linebackers

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Nashville's picture

Yeah, a lot of people ignore the math. I read a pre Super Bowl article a couple years ago that said recruit rankings don’t matter. Half of the participants were three star or less.

What it failed to mention is that three star or less are 90% of recruits for any given year. So 10% (4 + 5 *s) comprise 50% of SB rosters, while 90% of the other signees make up the other 50%.

"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."

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stxbuck's picture

Good post. Health and opportunity (and a quality OL) matter as much as hype for the long term success of a college RB.

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Attack51's picture

Probably nothing to see, but Bijan's commitment is still on for today right? Thought it was weird 247 doesn't have him on their Scheduled Commits page anymore. DIdn't see anything on Social Media at all

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Independence Village 22's picture

Hmmmmm 3pm eastern cant get here fast enough

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EBBuck03's picture

Lol, yep.  I'm ready to rip the bandaid off and get it over with.

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Drewbdu's picture

Bijan still has a timer on his Instagram page set for 3 pm that says “Commitment time.”

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JacksonOhio5's picture

I don't understand why people get so pissed about this.  The same people who are sick of the discussion about Bijan and Knighton are the same ones who usually clutter these threads with talk about non-football stuff anyway.  The class is almost entirely built.  There's a need for another DL, another CB, and then RBs.  I get that there has been a lot of stuff repeated the last few days while people try to rationalize the crazy turn of events last weekend, but talking about the direction that the staff will go from here (and even still talking about continuing to recruit Bijan) isn't really off topic.

Also, I think everyone should already be aware of the fact that some 5-stars pan out, some don't.  Some 3-stars end up being great players, some don't.  The staff obviously had their guys prioritized, it didn't work out, so now they're focusing on some guys that weren't as high on the board.  Guys like Smith, Bradford, and Drennen aren't bad players.  They might even end up having better careers than Robinson or Knighton, but it doesn't change the fact that that they were lower on the staff's board originally.  There's nothing wrong with that.  People can still have trust in the staff, but be disappointed that we didn't get our top targets.  They're not mutually exclusive. 

If the staff is focused on Drennen as the APB, maybe they think Smith is likely to end up at Stanford.  Maybe they think Smith could even potentially be a three-down back, but it seems as though they're truly focused on a Bradford/Drennen combo at this point.  We'll see how things play out.  

Go Bucks!

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CleveState's picture

No matter what is talked about someone is going to bitch. They are angry there is a bunch of stuff rehashed or they are pissed that there is no conversation.

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Mastro16's picture

The problem isn't that the RB situation isn't still significant and relevant, it's that very small amounts of information lead to hundreds of comments within which the exact same points and discussions are shared dozens of times, along with a ridiculous amount of speculation and assumption that has no validity. 

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Knarcisi's picture

Drennan’s tape looks a lot like Ryan Timmons’. Definitely a take. 

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ronbizi's picture

“Did someone say Timmons?”

     Waycracken

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jedkat's picture

oh nooooooooooo

"just a guy, nothing more, nothing less" ~ Some troll then *poof* he was gone

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Some part of me is hoping Robinson pulls a surprise commitment to the Buckeyes and his grandparents are shocked, but at the same time, I hope he isn't that type of kid and instead commits to UT if he has to right now and gradually works on convincing them on OSU until signing day. 

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Drewbdu's picture

The problem is, once you publicly commit, it’s a lot harder to change the status quo. So if he shockingly commits to OSU despite all the drama, that says a lot about how much he wants into the class. At that point, he can sell OSU to his family without having to actually flip his commitment. 

If he actually commits to Texas, then all they have to do is keep him. It’s the same situation with Ricks. You’ve gotta convince someone even more if they’ve already decided on another school than if they haven’t made any public decision. 

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I agree it becomes a bigger hurdle but the general sense right now, at least among the optimistic ones, is that he still wants to go to OSU more than Texas but can't and is just okay with going to Texas. 

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camcop71's picture

Wasn't it Ricks (or someone about Ricks/LSU) who recently said it's easier to get a commitment than keep a player committed?  This could be a good test.

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back so I just ran him over.” -Joey Bosa, PSU 10/25/14

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Knarcisi's picture

The grandparents must love a 13+ hour drive. 

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Byaaaahhh's picture

"It's family at Texas and coach (Stan) Drayton is a God-fearing man, and that's good for me because I feel he'd be the best for me in developing as a person," Robinson told 247Sports. "Off the field, he's about staying strong in your faith and being a good man. On the field, he's coached some big-time backs before like Ezekiel Elliott, Matt Forte, Arian Foster -- it's a good look for me.

"This whole time I knew it was Texas, but all the pressure coming to me from Ohio State was a reason why I was going there initially. Then I realized that it wasn't for me. Everything that I need is at Texas."

via 247

If what he's saying is true, then it's not an external influence causing him to pick them. 

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EBBuck03's picture

I was just about to post that last quote you posted...WOW.  What a kick in the dick to Day and Alford.  He said they pressured him to go there?  Bye Bijon, we'll be fine without you.

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RollRedRoll's picture

I didn’t read that as anything to do with Day or Alford pressuring him to go to OSU, I think he means people like Ransom and Miller and other players. I could be wrong, but I don’t know that he was talking about OSU staff. 

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I read it the same way. If you call general recruiting "pressure," then sure, they were pressuring him, but I think it was more likely referring to the other recruits being in his ear. And I don't even necessarily consider this a negative statement. 

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BTSBuckeye's picture

Confirms what most of the Texas insiders were saying as well.

Distance was never the factor and Bijan was never a lock for Ohio State, as Texas was leading all the way up until The Opening Finals.

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Buckeye06's picture

I mean it doesn't confirm or deny anything.  Kid changed his mind this week, then when they asked why he had to have a reason.  No matter what he said it wouldn't matter

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NHBuckeye's picture

Yet all of the Texas insiders flipped their Crystal Balls to OSU?   It sure seems to me that they had all conceded that he was OSU-bound.  Something changed at the 11th hour.

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JacksonOhio5's picture

That quote from him about pressure from Ohio State is kinda puzzling.  I don't really know how to interpret that.

Why mention Ohio State at all?  I guess he does basically confirm that he was a silent to OSU until last week though.

Go Bucks!

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BTSBuckeye's picture

It really wasn't a big secret that the Ohio State recruits were recruiting the heck out of him during The Opening.  It's the reason why Ohio State became the leader in the first place honestly ...

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JacksonOhio5's picture

I took it to mean pressure from Ohio State's staff, but maybe he meant other recruits.  This is why I said I didn't know how to interpret it for sure.

Go Bucks!

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BTSBuckeye's picture

The staff no doubt was pushing him during his visit, and that's really when the ball started rolling in Ohio State's favor.

Then at Rivals Bijan was pretty much hanging out with the Ohio State recruits and they were no doubt putting pressure on him to come join what they were building on offense this year.

Camps end and Bijan no longer has a bunch of people in his ear, he rethinks, and decides to go with his first choice.    Really isn't unusual.   Best of luck to him.   Time for Ohio State to go grab their next first round draft pick RB.

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EBBuck03's picture

God pressured him into choosing OSU then God changed his mind.  That's how I read it....

All that nonsense about Drayton being a "God-fearing man" and that was big to him.  Give me a break...

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JarheadBuck's picture

So much more I want to say here, but I'll leave it at "Amen brother."

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Been saying for days that the religious aspect was pushed heavily by the Texas staff and the Robinson’s bought it.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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NHBuckeye's picture

but all the pressure coming to me from Ohio State was a reason why I was going there initially.

I find this very very hard to believe.  At this point I won't be surprised if Day and Alford decide not to continue fighting for Bijan.  Time to move on.  

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BTSBuckeye's picture

Why do you feel that is hard to believe?  That's the name of the game.   You have to push for kids, especially if they aren't in-state talents who grew up dreaming to play for Ohio State.

That's not a bad thing.  It means Ohio State did their best to get Bijan to Columbus.  It just wasn't enough at the end of the day.  It should make you sleep better knowing the staff and other recruits did everything in their power.    Anything less and we would need better recruiters.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I agree with pushing for a kid's commitment.  But his quote reads like there was extreme pressure.  That contradicts with what I've read about Day (and Urban before him) wanting kid to be certain that Columbus is right for them.

I see another comment suggesting that perhaps the pressures could have been coming from other recruits.  I hadn't considered that and it could certainly be the case.     

All good though.  On to the next one.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

At this point, since he's at least saying things about being all-in on Texas and truly wanting to be there, I'm good with moving on. I'm sure the staff will continue to check in, though. This might be something to watch all the way until signing day, but from a fan standpoint, I'd be just fine if we keep the discussion on him here to a minimum. 

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huffdaddy's picture

Love Zeke, but you can't both say, "He coached Zeke!" and also "he makes people great off the field."

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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JarheadBuck's picture

I understand where you're coming from, but that jump into the Salvation Army Kettle was awesome publicity for them and he knew it would cost him money...and was technically off the field.  Plus, I don't recall any filed charges against Zeke, let alone convictions...just PR black-eyes.  Sooo...I can't buy the "not great off the field" implication.

BTW, I gave you an up to offset whoever decided you don't get to have an opinion.

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Kangarooman's picture

I seriously doubt he's referring to the kettle jump

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btalbert25's picture

A lot of people do some pretty sketchy or downright awful things and don't get convicted for it.  Could we retire the, "Well he doesn't have convictions so he can't be that bad of a guy," excuse? 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Our coaches need to call Bijan back and let them know they are terrified of God too. Boom - flip incoming.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

That is utter BS. OSU goes out if it’s  way to make sure kids are not pressured.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Octobersownlibra's picture

It would be nice if peeps would not be a bit salty of him choosing Texas...it is what it is.

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Well fuck, petition to move the texas series up to 2022-2023 now accepting signatures below.

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Rgeiger24's picture

While we are at it, unless I am insane here, Bijan was NOT at the Opening...

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Bum juice's picture

He wasn't, he did attend the rivals 5 star camp

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Northbrook's picture

Are you fucking kidding me? You think we ought to discuss that here? Jesus H American Christ!

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FieldsofJreams's picture

I think a one three-letter word response should also be removed, for wasting space.  Crazy that it got 8 UVs.

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bobsegersilverbulletband's picture

Only if you are a DB...those WR's are always thanking himwhen they make a big td catch

Bobcat66

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BuckDrew's picture

Well people also list him before their own families when doing their “top 3” so... it gets weird 

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Recruiting is a weird animal, his family is reported to be god driven, while the Texas head coach has according to reports, stuffed more dollar bills up young girl panties, says too much pressure, when you know Texas put the relentless non stop pressure on the kid, why would the OSU staff do this , he had already verbally committed to us, lots of contradictions in all of this stage, let’s get Bradford and Drennen and go kick TTUNS ass. Could be much worse TTUN has 24 commitments and trails us by so much in this year recruiting, PSU too.

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NHBuckeye's picture

If Alford leaves at some point (for whatever reason), I'll laugh if Stan Drayton comes home to Ohio State.    

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Bijan could be granted a waiver if that were to happen. Well, maybe. Depends on how the NCAA Waiver Coin™ falls. 

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Irony, I read most of the other teams board, Tx fans were screaming for Drayton to be fired, sucky recruiter, rb’s haven’t been developed, when it was going to be us, incrediblyfickle fans 

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Bucks19's picture

Raleigh  - that happen here to, all the time,  every day

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Yup, and he hasn't even recruited poorly for them. They had the 220th and 164th overall ranked players in their class from 2019 and 2018 respectively at RB. Most of their anger seems to be that Drayton couldn't lock down Trey Sanders over Bama when Texas was coming off a 7-6 season. Completely delusional, especially since Sanders isn't even from Texas.

They should have been impressed that Drayton had Texas in Sanders' final 3 with Bama and Georgia. Bijan is a major win for Drayton since Texas isn't all the way back yet and Ohio State is still on a great run, albeit with a new head coach. I'm sure all of those same fans have quickly changed their tune.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Any post w/ the word god in it, even if the context is 100% college football, violates the policy?  ESPN allows Dabo, on National TV, to go on rants about how faithful he is and how great his god is.  

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aboynamedtracy's picture

Well ESPN sucks and Dabo is a douche, so not sure what you're getting at.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

ESPN, a super-PC company, allows Dabo to continually give sermons for his own flavor of Christianity.  So then why is 11W now heavily sensoring comments w/ the context of the Christian God's role in the culture of football?

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aboynamedtracy's picture

To me, the 'no religion' policy seems pretty clear cut. Religion and politics can make a thread / site go off of the rails pretty quickly. And anyway, again... who gives a shit what ESPN does or doesn't do?

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FieldsofJreams's picture

These two comments didn't actually have to do w/ the specifics of religion.  The reason this larger string of comments came about in the first place, is that Bijan mentioned how big a role his god played in his college decision.  That amount of censoring "god" in the forum, is somewhat detrimental to understanding the role that a recruit's religion plays in the recruiting process.

It is clear now that we missed on Bijan, not primarily due to distance, but bc his family felt that Texas was a more Christian God-centered Program than tOSU.  So bc that statement has "god" in it, we can't say it on 11W?

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aboynamedtracy's picture

The specifics of the policy are above my paygrade so it's up to someone else to provide clarity. For the record, my paygrade is 0...

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Sanantonefan's picture

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Time to move on. Next man up. Get the kids that can handle that smoke.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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WestDesMoinesBuckeye's picture

I am glad he has announced.  Now, can we please stop talking about Bijan and focus on the kids that could be and want to be Buckeyes?

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

BK said that OSU fans should not expect Robinson to flip. OSU is out for good.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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saintstephen11's picture

good. time to put it behind us. He never wanted to truly be a Buckeye. No going back on that.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

No offense to Bill but he , us or other insiders don’t have a clue when it comes to 18 year olds, hell a week ago 100 % insiders had this kid were to Us. Bradford and Drennen looks like a pair of 4 star, winner winner chicken dinner!! !

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Rgeiger24's picture

Writing off what insiders say becuase one call went haywire is a bit much

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

No one is writing them off in regards to making a call, it’s the additional comment, flipping, don’t count on it, that’s a reach, just like saying it’s a lock as the kid reversed direction, in a few days, their 18 year olds. You’re being contrarian.

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Bill was also the first one to report bijan not going to ohiostate Soo..

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

That's because he was coming here. Kids change their minds. The insiders have information, they aren't clairvoyant. 

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NoMad Buck's picture

Come to OSU or be drafted behind OSU.

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Spartan13's picture

Can’t wait for Joe Burrow to take a dump on Herman

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CardaleFTW's picture

Yeah.... but Elias.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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ELJTSA76's picture

Just because someone says something to a person with a microphone (or typed it on Twitter, or whatever public forum) doesn’t make it 100% true. It doesn’t seem like the whole truth. But Bijan gets to control his story at this moment, and he chose to say what he said. It doesn’t seem as though even the staff knows all of the facts - but I’d that is the case, that they are in the dark about what happened, then it’s better to congratulate the kid and move on. If he doesn’t want to communicate or be open and honest behind closed doors, it wouldn’t be a good fit between him and the program. Good luck kid!

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BuckDrew's picture

If it was distance there would be no shame in just coming out and saying I wanted to stay closer to home. I think he was pretty honest when he mentioned his reasons. And didn’t say distance a single time 

Every insider who was pitching distance needs to Check their sources. Texas just outright won this one. 

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

I honestly feel better about him not coming here now after these comments. 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

Remember how we like to link to Michigan threads when their tears taste so sweet? Yeah, I imagine Texas fans could do the same for this thread. Time to get over it.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Agree.  Time to move on.  

I’d like nothing more that to snare Bradford out of Texas and see him dominate for the Buckeyes.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Cincybuckeye's picture

If they think this thread is bad, they should head over to Parts 58 and 59. Yikes

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

Get Kevontre Bradford and one of EJ Smith or Michael Drennan and call it a day.

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BuckDrew's picture

Really all we need. More concerned about a top flight pass rusher 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Givler did an article on RB targets:

- Jalen Berger: we can land him IF we push. Been dialogue recently

- Kevontre Bradford: Bears watching closely in coming weeks

- Torrance Davis: transferred from Glenville to Garfield Hts 

- Michael Drennen: in no rush to decide

- Zach Evans: longest of long shots

- Keyvone Lee: prob a long shot but a name that could pick up steam

- Jutahn McClain: expects the staff to gauge interest 

- EJ Smith: official visit this fall likely

- Lawrance Toafili: name to keep in mind to see what movement occurs 

- Miyan Williams: should get a look this season

https://ohiostate.rivals.com/news/reshuffling-the-running-back-deck

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CardaleFTW's picture

Isn't Bradford a little too young to be scouted by the Chicago Bears?

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Baylor Bears has offered Bradford, 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Just a quick reminder that a first year head coach has the #1 class in the country according to Top247 (Not The Composite).

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

If you look below the 4 right next to Ohio State's logo, you'll see a beautiful little 1. 

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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dubjayfootball90's picture

Oh well. Would have been nice to have Bijan. We good though. Well, more than good...

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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Buckster's picture

Of the RB list, strongly prefer Tre Bradford and his sprinter speed to go the distance that scares the heck out of a defense.  Teague has pure speed but Crowley and Chambers are more chain mover types even though Crowley can break off long runs.

Marcus Hooker, imo, should be a RB/H-Back, not a safety.  Marcus was a tremendous playmaker in HS on the offensive side of the ball and that is being wasted at safety.  The Buckeyes have recruited the safety position well and could afford to move him over to offense.

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CorchUrb's picture

The RB of the future might already be on our roster in Marcus Crowley. People don’t realize how good this dude is just because he was a 3 star. He’s going to show out this year 

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bd2999's picture

I am not sure it is totally a knock on him. I hope one of those guys steps up. They just need to make sure they have depth or the next good guy the team needs. They have had to reach a few times in recent years. Maybe those reaches are better than they seem but it is still true that they are missing on the top level guys. 

Betting on a guy that was ranked lower is great if it works. Not so great if it does not. Not everybody is Michael Thomas. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Normally I would agree but Crowley was Florida Gatorade player of the year. Trinity has three guys at OSU and one going to Clemson. He played good competition.

Over 2000 yards rushing as a senior and averaged 11 yards a carry...in the state of Florida. I actually think he might be the next back at OSU. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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TSwerve's picture

I can't wait, I think Teague is better then people give him credit for, but I really feel like Crowley can push for the back up spot. They aren't the same backs but I would love to watch this year like 06 when we had Pittman (Dobbins) steady churning out 100 yard games while we tell all our buddies, watch out for this Freshmen Beanie (Crowley) as he breaks off a 40 YD TD run!! I can hear the roars in the shoe now! 

“It does not matter the size of the man, rather the amount of effort the man is willing to put forth” - Woody

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NHBuckeye's picture

Teague is freakin’ put together.  Wow 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Independence Village 22's picture

Beanie Wells part-2? Holy sheet... Dobbins + Teague = Alstott and Dunn? Id like to hope.

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buckeyetyler's picture

Why would this comment get a downvote? Because it was positive instead of another doomsday “we are desperate at RB” post?

i loved the comparison to Pittman/Beanie.

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buckbornbred's picture

Crowley was a four star on Rivals, 247, and in the composite.
 

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NHBuckeye's picture

He was a 3-star for most of his recruitment, but got bumped at some point during his senior season.  Reason being that he committed to Miami very early and didn’t do the camp circuit.   I think he’s a stud and we got a steal here.  Miami fans were devastated when he flipped.  They knew he was a diamond in the rough.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Drewbdu's picture

Tre Bradford is in the same boat it seems like. He was mostly overlooked since he didn’t go through the camp circuit (he’s still a top 250 recruit despite that), Wisconsin started to sneak in and apparently he was getting relatively close to a decision when all of the sudden Ohio State swooped in. 

This seems like one of those kids that gets overlooked in the off-season because they don’t do any camps, then glide up the rankings during their senior season because of the competition they play and success they have. Not saying that’s what’s going to happen, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s right around the top 100 by the final rankings. 

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

Saw some doubt on Bucknuts on whether OSU could still have a top 5 class on signing day. I looked at the last ten recruiting cycles and it turns out OSU’s current score of 291 would be good enough for a top 5 finish 9 out of the last 10 times (and of course this is ignoring that OSU will still get 3-5 more commits). Realistically it’s hard to see them finishing anywhere other than 4th or 5th. Clemson, Bama, and Georgia are locked in as the top 3. LSU vs OSU probably comes down to if Ricks and/or Jarrett decommit. Then the only other school that seems like it would have a chance to leap into the top tier is Texas, but they still have a long ways to go and according to the Texas board plan on taking a smaller class anyways 

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camcop71's picture

Bingley-Jones to UNC.

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back so I just ran him over.” -Joey Bosa, PSU 10/25/14

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1983Buckeye's picture

Want Evans but not likely.  Cowan or DE to be named later who goes off his senior year

Go Bucks

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Brohio's picture

Just realized Clemson will most likely get 8 composite 5 star recruits this cycle including the 1-4 overall prospects in the class. 

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jdecot's picture

When you win 2 out of the last 3 national championships, send guys to the NFL, and maintain a cohesive coaching staff that is on the same page recruiting takes care of itself. Clemson also has excellent facilities and academics that are good enough as well. I know many fans don’t like Dabo Swinney, but I think it’s only due to the fact that Clemson boat raced OSU two years in a row.

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JacksonOhio5's picture

Clemson is recruiting at an insane level right now.  Dabo and his staff, that has remained mostly intact, deserve a lot of credit for building their program into a powerhouse.  Southern location with good weather, decent college town, decent school, great facilities, and now they're winning titles...it's easy to see why they're doing so well.

I'm not gonna lie and say that Clemson whipping Ohio State 30-0 (and also beating us in a shootout in 2013) isn't part of the reason I dislike Dabo and Clemson, but there are a couple other factors that I think are legitimate.  First, the fact that three players tested positive for PEDs and no one seems to care.  I know that this stuff isn't isolated to Clemson, but I'm sure it does benefit them, especially if they're doing it on a large scale.  The university did an internal investigation and refused to release the results.  How do you think the media would react if OSU has multiple guys test positive for roids, did an investigation, and then said "nah, nothing to see here"?

Next, Dabo's personality really gets on my nerves.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Christian and living your life the right way.  But the guy sits on his high horse, and then is known for heavily bad-mouthing other coaches and programs in the recruiting game.  I'm not naive to think that negative recruiting doesn't happen everywhere in some fashion, but from what we have heard, he is not shy about throwing anyone and everyone under the bus.  Then you have a Clemson basketball coach on wiretap during this college basketball investigation basically admitting that Clemson football is providing illegal benefits to recruits.  These reasons are why I don't particularly care for Dabo, and also why I want to see OSU get better and whip their ass to avenge what has happened in the past.

I'll go ahead and apologize in advance for going off topic.  This part is almost to 300 posts anyway.

Go Bucks!

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FieldsofJreams's picture

100% agree sir.  A well-thought-out way of saying, F*** Clemson!

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bd2999's picture

I dislike him because he is a grown man with that name and he comes off like an arrogant jerk. One can say if you walk the walk, but I am more towards humility. Hard to argue with their results though. 

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Octobersownlibra's picture

That is where blowing out bama...31-0'ing ohiostate, an undefeated season and 2 cfp titles gets you .....anyways you get what I'm saying

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Drewbdu's picture

Let’s remember that our 2017 class has the record for highest average player rating in the modern recruiting era and those guys are going to be playing this year, not entering their freshman year next season. If we take care of business, next year’s class may look very special for us. 

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Stellar's picture

It will be interesting to Clemson adjusts to landing all of these high profile recruits. Their current run of success was not built with top ranked recruiting classes. They've typically has mostly solid 3 and 4 star recruits with a few key 5 stars sprinkled in. This has allowed them to play off the perception of being a smaller underdog, which they've done very well. But there can be a culture shift that comes from all these highly rated guys who may feel entitled to success they haven't earned themselves. We've seen this before with USC in the early 2000s. Following those great Reggie Bush/Matt Leinart teams they were the IT school in recruiting. Every 5 star recruits in the country wanted to sign there, but they were never quite able to capture the same level of success of those guys that came before them. The Trojans eventually fell out of the national title picture entirely.

Now I'm not saying that signing a bunch of top rated recruits is a bad thing, and Clemson's recruiting success should be commended. But in the long run it's about bringing in the right guys for your team, not necessarily the highest rated guys.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Outstanding point, that I will be watching in the next few years.  It's a lot easier to convince a roster w/ (5) 5* in 2016, that Bama & tOSU are Goliath.  However, the (12) 5* roster in 2020 is more likely to see themselves as Bama's equal and tOSU's superior.

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logamaniac's picture

USC also got hit with the ncaa sledgehammer so I’m not sure that’s a good comparison.  

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