Skull Session: Justin Fields' High School Coach Speaks, Michael Thomas Gets Paid, and Tyreke Smith is Cleared to Play

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Dillon G's picture

The biggest thing with him is how bright he is and the way he picks things up

This part of what makes Haskins so good. It isn't the big arm. Ryan Mallet has a big arm. What did Crash say? And a 10 cent head. 

#walkaway

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soldierdad's picture

I’ve got say that the May podcast boosted my confidence.  We need a QB that has the tools and knows where to go with the ball.  Haskins was exceptional at putting the ball on the receiver on time.  Yet, how many times did we hear how smart JT was and that he was a film room rat.  Then on the field he wasn’t recognizing, or didn’t understand how a receiver looks that’s open, as opposed to wide open.  Hence, he checked down or threw late.  I just hope during the learning process Fields works on getting rid of the ball even if it means mistakes, vs bailing with his legs and essential settling for JT’s game.  

The good thing, we’ll know soon.

The soldier is my son.  The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.  

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Yo, Michael Thomas and Carmen’s Crew:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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awlinBrutus's picture

Been a proponent of separate beds for 15 years. Wasn’t good for the marriage but wasn’t the reason for the divorce. If sleeping separately hurts a marriage it wasn’t good in the first place. 

Congratulations to Mr Thomas for getting his ‘Fuck Off’ money.

Dont Care much for Tim May ever since Tattgate. Thought he was way over the top in his criticism of Tressel. Even after anyone with half a brain could figure out the senator fell on the sword for our beloved university as well as Pryor doing us a solid in not cooperating with the ncaa or else LOIC. And he’s just been passed by. Time to retire Tim.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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outdoorbuckeye's picture

I have a hard time sleeping when my wife ain't in bed with me. We will sleep in different beds on occasion, usually when my legs are going crazy. I couldnt imagine sleeping separately all the time.

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Dillon G's picture

My generation; don’t get in a car with a stranger, even if offered money.

Millennials; get in a car with a stranger, and pay them to do it.

#walkaway

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

You didn’t have taxis?

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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Ethos's picture

You do realize the kids in college right now are not millennials. 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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Dillon G's picture

Generations are typically about 20 years. I know some only refer to the 30 something snow flakes.

#walkaway

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Ethos's picture

Millennials are 1980 to 2000. Most folks actually consider them to be 1982 to 1996. Best case your juniors and seniors are in that generation but your freshman and Sophs are z’s

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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iowabuckeyes's picture

There can be other factors. Someone who's 20 and the youngest child in his/her family is technically a Z but s/he may associate with Millennials because their older siblings may have had more of an influence on how they think and act. The truth is, labeling millions of people simply because they were born within a certain range of years is silly and short-sighted. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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cricejr's picture

Yawn.

My generation: used to walk 20 miles uphill each way to anywhere and wore a suit everyday.

Milennials: drive fandangled combustion engine vehicles and wear jeans.

I bleed scarlet...literally

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Hovenaut's picture

But the QB "competition" hasn't yet been decided.

Hello, August...it's nice to see you again.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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BucksHave7's picture

Unless Hoak was timed at a 4.2?

BucksHave7

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iowabuckeyes's picture

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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buckeye1964's picture

isn't it ironic that fields (according to his HS coach) wasn't happy about not really gettting an opportunity to compete at georgia - so, he goes to a school (osu) that does the same thing in FAVOR of fields and doesn't give matt baldwin a legit chance to compete......and then HE leaves osu.

danny

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I'm not sure I'd call that ironic because the conspiracy may not exist outside your own head. No one said Matthew Baldwin wasn't given a chance to compete. And supposedly, from something I seem to recall reading somewhere, he was homesick.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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DCDDC's picture

Not true or accurate 64.

m GO BLOW!!!

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GareBear's picture

Signed up as a fan for Carmen’s Crew. Couple that with the Equifax leak tip from earlier and 11W will have made me a few hundred this week. Thanks!

"Because I couldn't go for three." - Woody Hayes

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Those were my thoughts exactly. And it’s better than my wife returning something she bought to a store and acting like we’d just made money.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SoulPatrol32's picture

My wife gets excited for the “free Kohl’s cash” she gets. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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BuckeyeSki's picture

Tell me about it SP. That $10 in Kohl's Cash doesn't even cover the tax on the wife's $100+ trip to the store that day

Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe

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Hockeybuck's picture

Too bad you don’t live in Pennsylvania. No tax on clothing.

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Ethos's picture

Haha!  My favorite conversation is about how much money she “saved” when she bought all this stuff. 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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MOBUCKK91's picture

Dude ... mine too.  "Look how much $$ I saved!!"   <sigh>  I suppose it is saving money if you were going to spend it anyway - but you wouldn't have spent the money had the "free cash" not been dangled in front of you.  I  love her though!

You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

SPWife: I earned $30 of free kohl’s cash 

SP: Babe it’s not free when you spent $150 at the store to “earn” it. 

SPWife: SILENCE!!

SP: (Mumbles under breath and heads to the computer to update ever growing monthly budget report)

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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awlinBrutus's picture

Hey if you can spoil your ladies. It’s like a credit line build it up you may need when you make a dumb mistake later in life.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Dont hold your breath on the $125 from Equifax. The settlement pool will be split by everyone who claims it, which is expected to be as low as $1 (something like 81 cents if everyone claimed it).

The bigger value though is the 10 years of credit monitoring for free.

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SleepyLeviathan's picture

Free credit monitoring from a company that has been breached is not a good deal. 

Equifax needs to pony up and pay out the settlements. If they go under because of it, well that's just the way the cookie crumbles. 

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lamplighter's picture

Good Thursday all.

Hello August! How many days now?

This is a forum post from a site member. It does not represent the views of Lamplighter LLC unless otherwise noted.

peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
 

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dan_isaacs's picture

Hey Lamplighter!  I just finished watching The Boys on Amazon Prime Video, and "Lamplighter" as a character besmirches your name.

Dan Isaacs

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lamplighter's picture

Need. a lawyer to help me sue for copyright infringement

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CandygramForMongo's picture

I am absolutely shocked – utterly caught off guard – at news that Ohio State is axing a free safety

You almost made me worry...

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blueblazer22's picture

So the diet and training regimen for the Rock's stunt double is the same as the regimen for the Rock. Go figure. That however is insane, so props to him for keeping up with Dwayne. They do seem to have different ideas on cheat days, but otherwise that is impressive. 

I look forward to Tyreke Smith being able to do his thing. He very well could lead in sacks simply because the blocking schemes have to lean toward the other guys. Will be fun to watch. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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BuckInNashville's picture

On Mike Thomas mismanagement - We’re going to have to just get over the fact that there were more tools in the shed than could be used under Coach Meyer. That might sound bad, but he brought them here, and the offense only had so many balls to go around - AFTER the QB’s 600+ runs. That was the philosophy of the offense. It changed in 2018 for the roster.

i think we might see a change back this year, but I hope the pendulum doesn’t swing all the way back.

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CandygramForMongo's picture

Maybe Mike Thomas needed a redshirt season for a few reasons of which we don't know?

Nevertheless, it's worked out for him. Congrats! He's earned his big paycheck.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

We pretty much read about the reason Thomas "needed" a redshirt season...attitude adjustment. It was written that his uncle had a heart to heart talk with him and told him to tone down the rhetoric and kick his butt into high gear. 

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

Having Drew Brees as a QB and Sean Payton calling plays might have helped his career a bit versus what he experienced in Columbus.  Mike Thomas definitely needed to get paid and well deserved.  Keep it rolling Mike!

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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Nutinpa's picture

It won't change all the way back, believe me.  Meyer ran his offense and Day will run his.  And the "twain don't meet". 

If Day has any aspirations of coaching in the NFL and if he doesn't want to see an entire elite class of WRs tell him..."Yo, Coach, I didn't sign up for this, I'm changing my commitment", he won't revert to Meyer's QB run based Offense.  It just won't happen.  

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I would bet that Fields has over 150 carries this year (J.T. averaged about 165).

Nutinpa's picture

Maybe.  But I would not be thrilled to see that, Kevin.  If he does have that many carries, he better have a shitload of passing yards too, or I will be willing to bet one or two of those elite WRs coming in 2020 will have second thoughts about their commitments.  

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Nutinpa's picture

To you naive DV'ers, please mark my post.  I will be happy to be proven wrong a year from now based on what I have posted.  

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buckeye1964's picture

it didn't help jt barrett couldn't hit a moving target either.......not to mention the qbs "600 runs". - god, i hope we're not returning to watching the qb run 25+ times a game. it'll work against lesser teams but not the good ones.

danny

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Snake64's picture

Justin Fields talent of Kyler Murray in a mans body? Yikes!

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buckeye1964's picture

except fields won't have the luxury of playing against big12 defenses.

danny

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Snake64's picture

Yea except for Days offense has shown the potential to make every defense look like a BIG12 defense. 

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Bratwurstcapitalbuckeye's picture

Michael Thomas dominated early at those spring games, but Urban wouldn't play him. He sure missed the boat not featuring him and getting him the ball. Saying stuff like he has to do good on special teams and coach talk like that while he sat the bench. I'm an Urban fan, but some of his thinking cost himself and our beloved Buckeyes some big wins in my opinion.

Go Bucks!

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CandygramForMongo's picture

Perhaps he needed to do other things to play more.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-mike-thomas-ohio-state-20141231-story.html

Thomas played in 11 games but caught only three passes as a freshman. He was still struggling to consistently execute the offense and fulfill academic commitments when, one game into the 2013 season, Coach Urban Meyer, Herman and receivers coach Zach Smith decided to redshirt Thomas.

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v65animal's picture

I don't miss Urb at all. I didn't like his play calling at Florida, running Tebow all the time or when he ran the QB here so much. It just feels "cheap" to me, not real football. I also saw him at the Homecoming Pep Rally two years in a row, he really didn't have much to say, it wasn't very interesting for inspiring. Apparently he saved all of the good stuff for the last Saturday in November, which worked out well anyway! :-)

I think he had a good gimmick for awhile, the rest of the coaches caught on and learned how to lessen the advantage of the QB runs for the most part. Urb didn't seem to adapt and move onto something else. Specifically the two losses to MSU.

I also feel he is 50% to blame for the injury to Braxton Miller, the other part is on Braxton of course. It was obvious in the Clemson game he was already hurt. Both of them, seemed think a 70% Braxton Miller was better than a 100% Kenny Guiton, and didn't consider the danger they were putting Braxton in when he couldn't defend his self with both arms.

The Vest is still my favorite coach at Ohio State, however I'm excited for a new Day to begin! :-)

Go Bucks!

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cricejr's picture

So one can presume that you did not enjoy or celebrate the 2014 championships that Urban brought here?  I mean it's a cheap title (according to you).

I bleed scarlet...literally

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v65animal's picture

I never said I didn't like the team, just that I wouldn't miss Urb.

Go Bucks!

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buckeye1964's picture

you know, as time goes by, urban missed the boat on more than a few decisions. sticking with barrett while haskins sitting for 2 years. not using thomas. his love affair with qb runs and wr bubble screens. hiring zach smith. hiring bill davis. not running elliot in the 17-14 loss at home to michigan st. not having his teams ready in back to back years against "average to awful" iowa and purdue.

good coach - but some very questionable decisions.

danny

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Kevin Harrish's picture

If you hate bubble screens, you're gonna hate Ryan Day.

BucksHave7's picture

A 4.3 Forty!!!!   Our O line just improved alot.

BucksHave7

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stcburn's picture

Thomas miss managed, loved the Urban years, but why didn’t we have at least 2 if not 3 NC’s during his time?

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Nutinpa's picture

1.  Clemson

2.  Meyer's teams' habit of not showing up to play once a year

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v65animal's picture

Two KEY losses to MSU... We should have had Back2Back National Championships.

Go Bucks!

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

You can't win if you aren't invited...

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Ethos's picture

If Day names Hoak as the starter the meltdown is going to be epic. I wonder if fields coach is still a lifelong buckeye fan if that happens. 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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JTstan16's picture

Can you stop bringing negativity into this beautiful Thursday morning? Thank you. - Management 

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Ethos's picture

I’m chill. Just joking about how many people are banking this season on a kid we’ve never seen play a meaningful snap of college football.  Haven’t seen close to the number of  articles on any of the other QBs which I find funny. If fields isn’t named the starter, or he’s injured, we are going to have almost no idea what the skill sets of the other qbs are.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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buckeye1964's picture

so true. i've said this for a while now. until i see ohio state in a situation like last year at penn st - and HOW fields reacts, we don't know what we have.

danny

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Kevin Harrish's picture

A few things.

  1. Justin Fields is going to be the starter, barring something insane happening, regardless of what Day is currently saying to the media. I think we've given the correct amount of coverage to a new starting quarterback versus a new backup quarterback.
  2. The other option at quarterback has also never played a meaningful snap of college football.
  3. Gunnar Hoak hasn't even practiced with the team yet, much less been made available to the media. You can only provide much news and coverage when there is no news and there is nothing to cover.

Despite all of that, we actually have written about Hoak quite a bit, including a 2,000 word story with exclusive quotes from his high school coach and his father (here's one, here's another, here's another, and a Skull Session, and yet another Skull Session). If you don't feel like you know anything about him at this point, that's kind of on you. Because the coverage is there.

But really, if you're saying we're not providing the same amount of coverage to a backup quarterback compared to the guy we all know is going to be the starter, I mean... guilty as charged?

Ethos's picture

Woah! Kevin I’m not criticizing 11w. I didn’t say “in this site”. I’m talking about everywhere. The article you linked wasn’t even 11w.  

You guys need to calm down. I express even a little doubt about fields being a starter or getting the vast majority of coverage and you guys explode. That’s kinda the point behind my earlier joke. You guys are going to lose your collective minds if it doesn’t happen. 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Oh I'm not taking offense, I'm just saying there's a reason why we're covering and talking about Fields over everyone else. Because he's going to be the starter. And yes, if a kid who's hasn't even taken a practice rep beats out Justin Fields in about 10 practices after everything we've heard, then I will lose my mind hahaha.

Nutinpa's picture

Serious question about Hoak:  what is the "book" on him in terms of his arm?  Does he have a rocket -- but needs really good coaching and focus on accuracy?  Or is he a "move the chains" QB from his younger days?  Clearly he is a back up.  I just have no idea what he brings in terms of tools other than his Ohio born background and his time at Kentucky. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

The thing is nobody really knows because he didn't play at Kentucky and he has yet to even practice at Ohio State. We really have no idea how he's developed since high school because we haven't seen it. But the good news is, fall camp starts tomorrow and we get to watch a full practice in less than a week, so hopefully we'll have some answers then.

3ydncloudofdust's picture

I know Chase Young is a man-beast and Jonathon Cooper is going to be starting opposite of him this year, but Tyreke Smith is my dark horse to lead the team in sacks this year.

Tyreke is definitely going to be a huge cog in the D line. Excited to see him get some real minutes. 

As far as Fields it’s great reading the comments from the podcast...but eventually, he has to become a leader. One of the benefits of K.J. coming back and also Dobbins on that side, but a young O line, Master, and younger receivers [aside from Mack]....call me crazy but I’m excited to see that long drive when they need to make some 1st downs and get a score. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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buckeye1964's picture

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! all i heard when barrett was throwing for 125 yards a game was how he was a "leader". if fields averages 275 yds passing with a 68% completion rate and a 3:1 td to interception rate, i don't care about him being a leader.

danny

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IGotAWoody's picture

This is a ridiculous comment. Don't care about the QB being a leader? Just so you can weirdly dis one of OSU's all-time greats? WTF?!?

Every successful QB is successful BECAUSE they are a leader - you can't be great without that quality.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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SleepyLeviathan's picture

Not to stoke the fire here, but I think leadership manifests in a few different ways depending on the player. 

Some guys are gritty, rah-rah locker room guys who gut it out through sheer determination

Others are less vocal, but lead through being excellent players at their position, and let their play do the leading. 

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IGotAWoody's picture

Exactly right. A QB doesn't have to be vocal, necessarily, but thru his actions, he has to command respect and inspire guys to follow his lead. 

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

I'm looking for big things from both Justin Fields AND Tyreke Smith. Well. actually the whole damn team.  GO BUCKS!

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Definitely looking forward to seeing what Fields can do under the coaching of Ryan Day. This will be fun.

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

Football this month! 

Also Urban was put on leave 1 year ago today. 

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

I'm not going to pretend the old system was perfect – there's a reason I never used it in five years – but it was free, and I know enough people who wouldn't have been able to use it if it wasn't.

If they can't afford a 10 dollar Lyft ride home, maybe they shouldn't be out drinking in the first place?

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buckeye1964's picture

yea, i take it as they're trying to make it easier for people to go out  and get drunk.

danny

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aeronaut's picture

yes, there's no other reason anyone would need a safe ride at night on a college campus

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Kevin Harrish's picture

That's the thing, the old ride system wasn't just for drinking. But this seems to be. Most people I knew who used it were girls using it to get from library late at night back home without having to walk alone. I know other people who used it to get to and from an on-campus job. It was very much not advertised as an "I'm drunk and need a ride" service, but a "I don't want to walk alone off campus at night" service.

osu78's picture

Which I think would be its primary service. Where my kids went to school they have a similar service. You call, and they send the bus by, and make other stops as needed on the way to your destination.

Given the popularity of Uber/Lyft I would not be surprised if a significant percentage of the discounted rides are used up going from one bar to another; thus limiting its availability when really needed. My experience is students will use them to avoid walking 10 minutes in the rain; what makes OSU think they will actually use it as intended? 

Since it requires synching with the OSU app, why not require students to list their residence and perhaps one or two alternate residences so that it gets used as intended? Or, even continue the OSU service and let students chose free and longer or a couple of dollars and cheaper. One advantage I see in the OSU program is drivers could be trained on who to contact in serious situations, if they weren't already.

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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cricejr's picture

Sigh. So the only reason anyone is out at night is because they're drinking. Good to know.

I bleed scarlet...literally

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MOBUCKK91's picture

Little tired of hearing about the Michael Thomas mismanagement.  Don't get me wrong - I completely agree that his utilization was mismanaged.  But let's get over it ... like yesterday.

You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I don't think I'll ever get over a Hall of Fame receiver coming through Ohio State and finishing his most productive season third-team All-Big Ten. I'm glad you can!

JTstan16's picture

Let’s pump the breaks on the HOF talk. He’s only entering his 4th season. Great 3 years so far? yes but he’ll need another 7-8 more productive years before he’s shoe in. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

That's fair, but my point really was just that he's uh... a bit better than third team All-Big Ten.

osu78's picture

The mismatch between a coach's system and the player's talent results, IMHO, these types of situations. No matter how much a coach says he adjust to players it's hard to change what has been successful to date. 

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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MOBUCKK91's picture

(edit note: didn't read your last sentence until just now - so rewriting this reply)

Yeah ... it was 3 years ago - just excited that he's doing well in the NFL now.  Hopefully this won't be an issue we discuss in 3-5 years with Day's team management!!

You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.

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NoVAsmitty's picture

For a QB that is seven months into his Buckeye career, my favorite quote from his HS coach was “he tries to outwork everyone.”  That, coupled with his intelligence and talent, and it’s giddee up time. 

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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JellyBellyJedi's picture

so much fascinating content in this article and I am still stuck on the guy's name being 'Dick-Man'. I bet he's had a hard life experience.

"...Dickmann compares Fields' dual-threat game to Kyler Murray..."

Cool, to whom does Ass-Man compare him?

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Nutinpa's picture

Cool, to whom does Ass-Man compare him?

The tit-mouse.

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SilverHaven's picture

I like Keven's Skull Sessions-- a lot, but after he writes the article, does he have to write the comments section, too?

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

lol sometimes I like to participate in discussions too! Especially when not much else is going on in Buckeyeland.

SilverHaven's picture

LOL. At times it seems a bit much. But all in good humor. Mahalo for taking it that way.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Ethos's picture

I think the fact we get to interact with the writers is what is one of hte great things about hte site.  Whether or not Kevin realizes i'm always right.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

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Kevin Harrish's picture

It's less that y'all are always right and more that I'm always wrong, to be honest.

osu78's picture

Well, if you're always wrong then you must be wrong and thus always right, right?

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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MuraliPatel's picture

Re: SafeRide vs. Using Lyft, to say that this is going to end up as a train wreck is absolutely on point.

I've never used SafeRide, but I know people who have. I know ladies who chose not to and ended up being assaulted. I have an ex-girlfriend who was one of the latter category - it was awful for her. If the University takes sexual assault seriously, they should re-consider this move, and perhaps encourage a partnership, where Lyft Drivers are providing the SafeRides, and the university financially compensates them, if manpower and vehicle resources are truly the issue.

"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war."

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I don't understand why they had to kill SafeRide completely to do this program (though that may have been part of Lyft's terms). I think there's room for both of them to exist. As a recent graduate, I just don't see it as the same market of people at all. Nobody was using SafeRide to get home from bars, but that's all the Lyft service will be able to be used for because they'll run out of rides too quickly.

smibr37's picture

What's the going rate for teeth these days?

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