Skull Session: Ohio State Rightfully Crowned “DBU,” Brian Hartline's Absurd Arsenal of Receivers, and Revisiting the 2016 Draft

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Turns out, Brian Hartline is the man, never sucks to have a buckeye through and through get back to Columbus and absolutely kill it in his position. 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Dillon G's picture

I love the comparisons to Ted Ginn, but they can also be to Parris Campbell. If we believe state track and field, Campbell is a little faster than Ginn. And right now my favorite run is Campbell going end around on the pass for 78 yards. It is every bit as enjoyable to watch as seeing Ginn humiliate ND on the reverse.

#walkaway

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acBuckeye's picture

Ginn's punt return against TTUN in '04 is just as enjoyable, probably more so. Absolutely electric.

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Bigbutterbuckeye's picture

I go on youtube every once in a while just to watch his highlight reel. After lots of times watching it there are still times I am amazed at what he did. The combo of him and Smith must have put a ton of pressure on opposing coaches and secondaries to be perfect or pay the price. 

ESPN starting the SEC channel to concentrate on the SEC is like Baskin-Robbins starting a new store to concentrate on selling ice cream.

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Buckabroad's picture

"Also, no big deal, but Ohio State just signed its highest-rated receiver prospect ever ..."

This is true, but only until signing day, when Ohio State signs Flemming.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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droessl's picture

I just hate that Ginn didn't play here when high def was a thing. His highlights on YouTube almost look finger painted. 

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lamplighter's picture

been quite a while since there's been a punt/KO return for a six.  Would be nice to see.  Good luck Mr. Williams. Hope you get the chance to change that

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nrobinsonpe's picture

As long as Mitchell Mayes is a real person, some recruiting services are moving in the right direction.

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FortMeyer's picture

Jameson Williams will be taking many crossing route catches for TDs in his career. Then taking many deep shots for TDs as he is the next OSU burner. It seems like there is always that one guy that can just terrorize defenses. Defenses meet Mr. Jameson Williams.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Ironically, he seems to have already gotten lost in the coverage. Between all the articles about the returning WRs, Wilson and the 2020 class, Williams name is often missing but I’m excited to see what he can do. We’ve had good luck with hurdlers who play football (Ginn, Zeke)

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ryan.Honeycutt's picture

Pumped to watch Williams and his game breaking speed... I’d say he is more of a Paris Campbell-esque type of receiver with the wheels that could possibly take those shovel passes to the house, but also like you said break huge gains with those 7-10 yard crossing routes... should be interesting to see if he can make his way into the WR rotation along with wilson

RyanPH

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Trebor40's picture

What is incredible is the fact that on one hand we are watching the tape of an incredible player at his position and in the same paragraph reasonably state 

...should be interesting to see if can make his way into the WR rotation along with Wilson

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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PhillyNut's picture

Clemson is now officially part of the SEC as they get the SEC bump effect on their recruit rankings by the world wide leader.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Well there is the ACC Network now, so of course Clemson gets a bump.

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Bigbutterbuckeye's picture

I still can't believe that is Olave in that picture up top. It looks like he has gained a quarter of a person in the last 7 months.

ESPN starting the SEC channel to concentrate on the SEC is like Baskin-Robbins starting a new store to concentrate on selling ice cream.

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milhouse4588's picture

Mickey doing his thing. I'd love to see what he weighs in at now. If he didn't lose any speed he might be the most productive receiver we have this year outside of KJ. He has a knack for scoring.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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acBuckeye's picture

Not that it matters, but seems to me ESPN has QBs a little too high and D line too low. The fact the RBs dont even appear is absurd.

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MichiBuck12's picture

From a recruiting standpoint it certainly looks like this train is just going to keep on moving. I'm not sure why, but I really haven't been all that excited for football season until yesterday. And I don't know what flipped the switch either but all the sudden I'm ready to go.

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DCDDC's picture

Only 38 days MB.  Woo Hoo!!!!!!!

m GO BLOW!!!

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acBuckeye's picture

The 3rd play of Jameson Williams is almost identical to Terry Glenn running away from Notre Dame DBs.

The 2016 draft.... further proof that our coaches royally effed the 2015 season up.

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tbirnbrich's picture

Yep, between the less than 10 carries for Zeke (and JT throwing for 44 yards), and the D playing cover 2 all game long (even though they ran the ball every single play) that was the worst gameplan I have ever seen, and it cost us a Natty.

I will pound and pound you until you quit

- Woody Hayes

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brutus0717's picture

"We weighted an All-America nod higher than an All-SEC selection"...
"But we weighted an All-SEC selection 3, and in many cases 4, times higher than any other All-Conference selection." /s (maybe)

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Chuckeye Buck's picture

Ya.....noticed that....wouldn't All-Conference be more appropriate?? No bias there.....but then again I guess I'm just a conspiracy theorist

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blueblazer22's picture

Obsolescence as a concept is intriguing to begin with. But to compare what has gone and what may go is a tough one. I do like the scholar who predicts the neck tie as likely to disappear. 

I would love to know the espn formula for those rankings. It really doesn't matter, but I was reading that article yesterday and was amazed at some of their ideas. No Purdue under qb's even though they had Kyle Orton and Drew Brees. No OSU under rb's. This is what espn does best-create their own narrative. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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buckeyedude's picture

I thought we had seen the last of mullets and jorts, but in certain parts of the country if one shops at a Walmart, they can still see these fashion faux pas regularly. Some things that really need to go away, never do.  

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

I do like the scholar who predicts the neck tie as likely to disappear. 

According to Back to the Future, double neck ties are the next thing.  Oh, that was supposed to be 4 years ago and didn't happen?  

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cledaybuck's picture

No Purdue under qb's even though they had Kyle Orton and Drew Brees. No OSU under rb's. This is what espn does best-create their own narrative. 

I'm pretty sure it is the all conference stuff getting us our rating.  When was the last time the OSU QB wasn't all conference?

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DCDDC's picture

Leave it to ESecPN to leave out THE Orlando Pace.  morons.

m GO BLOW!!!

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SoulPatrol32's picture

We limited the debate to the BCS and CFP era, including all players who appeared in games from 1998 through last season.

I think Orlando is eliminated based on this criteria. I’m pretty sure Vrabel should be eliminated as well. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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DCDDC's picture

Of course you're correct.  Just call me Captain Oblivious.

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Port Richey Buckeye's picture

Within a week eSECpn will come out with their new updated position rakings and we will not be in top 10. They love fucking with us.

Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.

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Buckabroad's picture

"Also, if Ohio State is already No. 2 in the WRU rankings, boy do I have some news about the future."

This is spot on. Many ESPN analysists have been assigned to the task of finding moronic reasons to hold back Gee's ranking. Their own system, however, cannot ignore CFB and NFL production. Gee will expose their "experts" as frauds in short order.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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allinosu's picture

But he was .008 slower than the other guy.

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TMac's picture

blindly trust that the machine knows........... I find it moderately hilarious that this formula ranks Ohio State in the top-10 at producing quarterbacks but not running backs

Factor in recruiting rankings and the 'Machine" doesn't know squat. It got DBs and WRs because a literal blind squirrel could have found those acorns. 

ONE Not Done!

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lamplighter's picture

No mention of Ryan Shazier in the LB list? C'mon man!

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NHBuckeye's picture

Interesting to see McCall in the WR group pic.   Is he now a full time receiver?  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Browns88's picture

Jameson Williams does have that Ted Ginn stride.   Looks like slow stride but pulls away from the defenders.   And speaking of the defenders, those were some horrible tackling angles.

Browns88

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Ginn was more glide than stride. He ran so fluidly and effortlessly, like a drop of mercury on a hot skillet.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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crusher's picture

Ginn looked like he was gliding downfield on roller skates while everyone trying to catch him were  trudging through wet concrete. 

Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft

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Hovenaut's picture

I was punctual in reading the Skully shortly after it posted, it's just taken me a couple of hours to work around the incessant ESPN outrage.

Better things going on today, boom.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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SouthPacificBuck's picture

I came here looking for a Boom but stayed to read about Plex. Somebody please build a Plex server with heaps of Buckeye football content then loop me in. *cheesy smile*

Keep football fun

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Mad4527's picture

Vrabel was gone in 97, but hey, we'll take it.

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tekk69's picture

Holy Crap Bin Victor is a big boy.... PLEASE BREAK OUT!  I would love to see a full season of his spectacular moments not just them sprinkled throughout 13 games

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Kevbo714's picture

Anyone else notice that Orlando Pace was missing from espn's OLU?!?

Kyle "blood on the field" Kalis... 0-5

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

They only looked at 1998 to present.   Pace was gone by then.

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Buckeye4Life334's picture

That is the most ESECPN thing I’ve ever seen. The narrative is always clear. Commit to Clemson or The SEC and watch your stock soar. Or commit to the Big Ten, (anywhere) and expect your stock to immediately decline. Been watching it for years now hahaha

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Linnae Harper is going to be a problem for someone to guard. 

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BuckNutChicago's picture

Looking at the throw to Garrett Wilson makes me wish we still had Baldwin on the roster...

Go Buckeyes!!!

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

All the positive goings on with OSU football, and folks want to piss and moan about ESPN.  It’s not almost laughable, I find it laughable.  Dang near close to paranoia; Lol!

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DCDDC's picture

36 days and a wake up.

And michigan, that's right......still sucks!

m GO BLOW!!!

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