Rondale Moore, Adrian Martinez and Other Big Ten Players Discuss Recruiting Interest from Ohio State, Why They Chose the Schools They Did

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PhillyNut's picture

Reading Hudson's comment on the drive from McKeesport to Ann Arbor I was thinking if he or a family member are making it in 4 hours they are breaking more than a couple of laws. That is every bit of a 5 hour drive if everything goes right. And you feel it the entire way you are on the turnpike.  It is one boring drive with the possible exception of when you cross the Cuyahoga River valley.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Nate4bucks's picture

Thanks for recognizing the beauty of the Cuyahoga River Valley. I live in Hudson, just outside the Cuyahoga National Park (Ohio’s only national park). I may be slightly biased, but this is the most beautiful area in Ohio. It feels more like New England than the Midwest. The architecture of this area known as the Western Reserve doesn’t feel midwestern at all. 

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PhillyNut's picture

I grew up in Lorain and went to college in Pittsburgh as well as marrying a Pittsburgh girl.  Drove that stretch every weekend for 18 months when we were dating so know it well.  Had an RX-7 right of college in 1979.  Used to love driving that uphill stretch after crossing the valley heading up to the old Exit 12.  Police never monitored the uphill, had three lanes.  Lets just say in my stupid youth I pushed that RX-7 on that stretch until its Wankel engine cried.

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gobucks1966's picture

I live on the Ohio Pa border and it's every bit a 3 hour drive to Cedar Point. Can't recall the time it takes from Sandusky to AA it's been a few years since I took that trip,

Denny

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SouthPacificBuck's picture

We've paid a price for underestimating McFarland and Moore. I'm hoping that we don't add Martinez to that list. 

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stxbuck's picture

It’s not always a matter of underestimating, sometimes, believe it or not, there are more good players than available schollies out there

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jdecot's picture

McFarland and Moore would have been impact players at OSU, but we need to put some things in perspective. McFarland was in the same recruiting class (2017) as J.K. Dobbins and I cannot blame the staff for picking Dobbins over McFarland. Remember, Dobbins was a 1400 yard plus back as a Freshman and ran for over 1000 yards last year as well. Moore would have been a great slot receiver for OSU, but he clearly wanted to go to Purdue and I cannot blame him given that Jeff Brohm has a very creative passing game that utilized his skill set well. Also, Moore would not have received playing time last year over guys like Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, Johnnie Dixon, Victor, or anyone else. 

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andretolstoy's picture

I'm not saying McFarland and Moore aren't great players, but our Defense last year made more than one opposing player look like an All-American. 

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Cooper's picture

I would feel feel aggrieved if I was McFarland, as well. It took an almost 300 yard rushing performance for a coach to come up to you and say “hey, maybe I should have recruited you harder.” It almost seems like a backhanded compliment. Ultimately, both schools got what they wanted with Dobbins and McFarland.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I kind of saw it the other way, like Alford understood that McFarland was where he was but wanted to give him his props for a great game, anyway. Seems like a classy move by Alford.

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gobucks2110's picture

"I just felt like there wasn’t no university better,” Hudson said about why he chose Michigan.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who got a chuckle out of that 

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Major H's picture

And let me guess...he's an English major?

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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RBurgundy4's picture

Yeah, well, “With academics and football, you can’t get nothing better than this."...

Um, okey doke.

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kybuckfan's picture

Yeah- that's what I was thinking.  Gotta love a double negative.

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Definitely not gotta not love the double negative, that's for sure.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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stxbuck's picture

"Wasn't no university better"......................can I say this was spoken w/ the grammar of a true Michigan Man majoring in general studies?

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Homey1970's picture

You can say that again....and again.

EDIT: Come on Stxbuck.  Stay committed to your original posts!

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stxbuck's picture

I was so committed to it the stupid WiFi connection posted it 3 times.....

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stxbuck's picture

I can understand Moore going to Purdue-opportunity to star in a video game offense as a frosh, coached by a hometown-Louisville-legend in Brohm.

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gobucks1966's picture

I wish we could post more of these stories we love OSU and would never think of any other school growing up as fans. I have posted many times that kids look for easy playing time and avoid going against other talents a couple mentioned that. They are use to being the big fish in the pond. Those are the type of kids that quit when things are going south on the score board and many times transfer. If you ever noticed our kids could of folded the tents vs PSU a couple times the last two years or even the Maryland game last year. Even the Iowa and Purdue blow outs it wasn't till very late they threw in the towel and after I did. The Bama game they got off to a shaky start but kept plugging. I think our staffs have done a great job in recruiting the right kids and turned away some that are elite but not what you want in the locker room. Chemistry is huge in sports and make a huge difference when things go bad. There have been players in the last few years that are great football players and many couldn't figure out why we didn't offer or stayed after them when we did in the Warren Youngstown area. Well a couple I kind of know and the others my friends are in the know about these kids and you don't want them on your team or date your daughter. I never wanted MC here and he was the most talented kid I ever watched since Paul Warfield in the early 60's there is a kid at Kentucky that is a bad egg and a couple others that went on to both schools up north. There is so much more than just being a good football player. Just a hunch but I think we lost Jake Butt because we don't use the TE and others we lost for many different reasons. Lastly with so much talent on our teams since Urban arrived I'm very surprised more kids have not transfered from here. Many of those schools in the SEC have a revolving door the fans never get to know the kids as they head off to Alabama E&G  or some school I never heard of down there.

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stxbuck's picture

I think we signed Nick Vannett in the same class as Butt’s.

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Spartan13's picture

Sounds like Rondale was the only player who actually turned down OSU, the rest were just never pushed for. 

And relax keyboard warriors with correcting the grammar of a 20 year old 

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stxbuck's picture

If a school is going to sell its’ academics, let its’ products reflect it. These guys are the faces of the program, not some scrubs in the doghouse.

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kmp10's picture

And relax keyboard warriors with correcting the grammar of a 20 year old 

Could not possibly disagree more here. That college students in 2019 America speak like this, whether they attend *ichigan, Ohio State, or any other university, is nothing short of lazy, and that coaches apparently refuse to pull these players aside, in private, and gently correct their grammar is disappointing. These coaches love to beat their own drums specific to being 'life teachers,' but they clearly don't teach English language skills... and in the world of business, one's ability to speak correctly is vital. 

Fortune 500 executive: "Why do you think our company is the place for you, Khaleke?"

Hudson: "I just felt like there wasn’t no company better."

Fortune 500 executive: "Try rephrasing that for me, please."

Hudson: "You can’t get nothing better than this."

Fortune 500 executive: "We'll get back to you... thanks for your time."

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andretolstoy's picture

There's a YouTube video of Woody teaching the team vocabulary words 

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stxbuck's picture

Today’s college students would not respond well to Woody, IMO.

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andretolstoy's picture

I can understand why they wouldn't. I can also understand why a coach like would be beneficial to them. 

If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die. 

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kmp10's picture

Oh, I heartily agree, and it would be entirely their loss... and that speaks far more to the lack of respect for so many things these days than saying anything even remotely negative about Hayes. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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stxbuck's picture

Amen to this. And to be quite honest, Woody’s players regarded his occasional as part of the package-they just laughed and said “That’s coach”. Also, even by the standards of the day, Woody was not known as a brutal practice coach. He was actually the first big time coach to emphasize hydration during practice.

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gobucks1966's picture

Twisting a helmet or slapping one back in the day was common place in football. Even in high school they did it. Picture The Bear at Alabama coaching Fields if you want name calling. Woody wasn't all that bad and a lot of it was show with his $2 watch's and hats loosely stitched so he could rip them apart. Bo was probably worse than Woody but at the end of the day those players would take a bullet for them.

Denny

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PhillyNut's picture

College is not going to change how a student speaks unless they truly want to work on it.  That is not the role of the university unless they are an English major and none of these guys are. 

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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milhouse4588's picture

Except when we send players to Big Ten Media Days we have guys that speak clearly, with good grammar, and present themselves well when asked questions.

It shouldn't be difficult for other schools to do the same. And when it comes to TTUN, they only have academics to fall back on now that football certainly isn't something to brag about. Choose players that can speak well.

I'm not saying he couldn't have answered more eloquently if he wanted, and he may be very intelligent. This particular soundbite is just awful. It's like if someone asked me about my diet and I told them "Well I chose the Paleo diet to lose fat and show of my gains" while eating funnel cake and rubbing a beer gut.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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kmp10's picture

“I just felt like there wasn’t no university better,” Hudson said about why he chose Michigan. “With academics and football, you can’t get nothing better than this.

Irony... when a TTUN recruit cites "academics and football" as being the reasons he chose *ichigan while simultaneously butchering the English language, and while being the sitting representative of a team that gave up sixty-two points to its hated rival and followed that up with a loss to South Carolina in a shitty, rainy, irrelevant Florida bowl game. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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cledaybuck's picture

UM lost to Florida in a bowl game last season after getting beat by OSU.  The loss to USC was the season before.

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kmp10's picture

Plus 1, CB.... their shitty losses in meaningless bowl games are so commonplace I can't keep them straight. Thanks for doing it for me.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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cledaybuck's picture

True, but they can be quite enjoyable.  

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buckeye phi's picture

That's really not that many "misses" in a conference of 14 teams.  With the exception of maybe two or three of those recruits, we probably ended up doing at least a bit better at their position, anyway -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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allinosu's picture

How in the hell was Bachie the 44th ranked player in Ohio? 

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RBurgundy4's picture

Agreed. Looks like a bunch of people missed that one one. He's a pain in the ass, respectfully. Good player.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

It's not even upsetting to me that we missed on the classic overachieving 3 star from OH, it's that our collection of 4 and 5 stars at LB pretty much all have vastly underperformed in that same time. 

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Dstacify's picture

Because we've entrusted the development of those 4 and 5-star LBs to Bill freakin' Davis the last two years. Fingers crossed things look much different under Washington this year.

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allinosu's picture

I can't argue that but I'm siding with better scheme and better coaching puts them in a better place to succeed.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Yes Schiano is gone too. Huge improvement is expected.

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Trebor40's picture

Listening to him and reading comments, this is the type of guy that I always hope find their way to our program yet often do not over the past several years! He probably did not go to a great deal of the glorified 7v7 camps and did not "look the part" which to me is the issue with star rankings as they apply to certain positions. I think they are great for CB, Safety, DE - not so great for interior linemen or inside LB's or should I say that they are more like reading the cliff-notes as opposed to the text and as I state when my students complain as I discredit their answers - it lacks depth. 

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ROCK1's picture

Michigan's website for recruiting athletes gives the NCAA minimums for qualifying to play for UM.

ROCK1

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TUNAWarrior's picture

It is what it is and I'm sure there won't be anything, in the way of residual damage, but I wonder how Dobbins felt when he read of Alford's comments.  Or if he just chalked it up to a good game against a porous defense and it's some kind of small talk you make/how an opposing coach would "congratulate" a player on a game with stats like that.
 

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stxbuck's picture

Players understand getting legitimate respect for their game from opponents, I’m sure Dobbins understands that as a player. Besides, Dobbins had something like 200 yards on 35 carries in the Maryland-he understands why RBs need a rotation/breather.

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Clarky's picture

“At the end of the day, Purdue was where my heart was, and that was where I wanted to go,” Moore said.

Being from Indiana myself and knowing how sub-par a place like Lafayette is, this is hilarious. Moore must really be some other kind of animal if his heart was truly drawn to Lafayette. 

"If Chase Young is truly bigger than I think he is and taller than I think he is, he would probably have to be the literal Predator because I've seen him with my own two eyes and I personally think he's pretty damn Sasquatchian." - Kevin Harrish

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Dstacify's picture

If Zach Smith was the one recruiting him for OSU at the time I unfortunately can sort of see why he chose Purdue (considering Zach was less than diligent at the recruiting aspect of his job towards the end of his run here though he could kick ass when he put in the effort like we saw with Garrett Wilson). I wonder what Moore's final decision would've been had Hartline been the one recruiting him instead.

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stxbuck's picture

Moore went to Jeff Brohm’s alma mater in Louisville-some hometown hero connection there. Louisville kids-especially at the parochial schools-will listen when Beohm comes calling.

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gobucks1966's picture

Good luck with fixing my grammar at 70 years of age. I even type with one finger lol

Denny

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buckeyeinWI's picture

OHIO STATE landed players they needed, wanted!  No looking back. They can't take everyone!

GO BUCKEYES!

16-2 is SWEET!

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Dstacify's picture

Obviously landing Rondale Moore would've been nice but Martinez I don't think ever would've started had he come to OSU. Not with Haskins, Burrow, and Martell all here at the time he was recruited. Odds are he most likely would've been beaten out by Haskins for the starting job (as good a prospect as Martinez is he's no Dwayne Haskins IMO) and subsequently transferred in search of PT just like the others did. So there's no point in dwelling on what could've been there.

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cledaybuck's picture

Are you telling me he would have transferred after not winning the starting job as a true freshman?

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Dstacify's picture

With how easy it is to transfer nowadays? It's possible. Look what Baldwin just did (he was a redshirt freshman going into this season).

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Dan Hope's picture

I definitely wasn't trying to suggest that Adrian Martinez would have beaten out Dwayne Haskins last year. That wouldn't have happened; the reason he started immediately at Nebraska was because the Cornhuskers had no scholarship quarterbacks with any experience, and Martinez was the most talented quarterback on the roster.

Here's the question in my mind: If Ohio State signed Adrian Martinez over Matthew Baldwin, does this offseason's quarterback movement play out differently? Martinez already looks like one of the best quarterbacks in the Big Ten, so I think there's a real chance he'd be in line to be Ohio State's starting quarterback right now if he signed with the Buckeyes.

Obviously, that's all hypothetical, and since Martinez wouldn't have played much if at all last year, the Buckeyes still might have brought in Justin Fields. If that happens, maybe Martinez transfers just like Baldwin did. If Fields succeeds at Ohio State and Martinez continues to succeed at Nebraska, it could ultimately work out best for both parties. I just think it's an interesting possibility to consider given that he could have potentially been a Buckeye, all the turnover in Ohio State's quarterback room this offseason and he'll be playing against Ohio State for at least the next two years.

gobucks1966's picture

Great points Baldwin was a shocker maybe he was tired of waiting his turn like he did in high school? High school you have a smaller window to move around. I wonder if he regrets ever coming here to start with. Martinez kind of slid under the radar I believe because he had a injury of some sorts I believe and wonder if that had anything to do with us not pushing harder for him?

Denny

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Dstacify's picture

If Day still manages to bring Fields here (which Haskins planted the seed for) I think Martinez either rides the bench this season or transfers just like Baldwin and Martell did. I think Martinez is talented no question. But I do think Fields will be better than him and overall has the higher ceiling.

I think Martinez being on the roster wouldn't have caused Day to turn Fields away anymore than Baldwin and Martell did. OSU wasn't in dire need for QB talent going into this off-season when they made that move, it happened because Fields was unhappy at Georgia and Haskins recommended Day to him. Martinez being here wouldn't have changed that and he likely would've lost the starting job to Fields and transferred just like Baldwin and Martell did IMO.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

At the end of the day, OSU can't take everyone, as evidenced with Moore (offered but other WRs were prioritized higher, leaving no room), McFarland (cooled on after Dobbins committed), and the guys they didn't offer (Martinez, Hudson, and Bachie, who they didn't even recruit).  And like Bredeson, not everyone is going to think OSU is the right fit.  

There are just so many different factors into what will make a kid decide to go one place and not the other, and even more factors into determining whether the kid will pan out better, as well, or not as well as their star rankings would suggest.  It's easy to get caught up in seeing Ohio kids or kids OSU recruited going elsewhere and becoming star players (especially if they have big games against OSU), and thinking "damn, if only OSU could have nabbed them"...me, personally - no regrets - just check the recordbooks, especially since the start of the BCS era.  Check the 11+ and 12+ win seasons, the Big Ten titles, the BCS/NY6 bowl wins, the national titles (2 to everyone else's 0), national title game appearances (4 to everyone else's 0), and playoff berths (2, should be more, to everyone else's 1).  I think OSU has done well with the players they have/had.

Class of 2010.

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CowCat's picture

Moore was probably the missed opportunity, but it's all hindsight and hypotheticals. Any receiver would have loved playing in our 2018 pass-happy offense with Haskins slinging the ball, but we weren't playing that way when Moore was recruited.

And there ain't no school who gots it better than UM with them academics.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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gobucks1966's picture

Lets see what Moore does going forward and others

Denny

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stxbuck's picture

To be honest, tOSU writers asking B10 recruits why they didn’t choose tOSU is sorta like TMZ asking various LA scenester  types why they didn’t hook up w/ Kate Upton or Jessica Alba at a party when they had the chance. Kinda petty and trolling for a negative reaction, imo. Asking this question in SEC country would upset a lot of bagmen applecarts.

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