Slobs never went away but coming back in full force this year!
Bowen was so good for us 2 years ago. I'm rooting for him to earn the RT spot!
I feel ya... I pulled back and just decided to pull for the best man.... So many to root for. But I love the depth we now have here... Alabi was proven in the times he had to jump in... Petit-Frere winning the job means 2 years min of consistent play out of the position.
Gems, such as Isiah Prince.... Really ? He worked and played hard - Yes. Hadn't previously considered him a gem of the class. Hopefully both Bowen and Alabi see increased playing time. NPF is who I am hoping takes the Right Tackle spot. He has high expectations.
Prince was a gem but Denzel Ward wasn’t even listed...
They, and JJ (even as a transfer), will have to anchor these other young guys. I hope any growing pains they have are offset by this veteran presence and rotation in and out, keeping them fresher. With the defense still in question after last season's performance, a new QB, and a new head coach, I think they need some quick stability from the line in front of Fields.
Good luck and good health, gentlemen!
if there is an injury, we have a capable backup for any position on the O-line.
other then that, the only "rotation" for an offensive line is "1st String -- 2nd String -- 3rd String"
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You are correct. I guess I was thinking in terms of spelling them if/when they got tired, but between Mariotti's work conditioning them and hopefully an offense that will eventually develop quick-strike capability, ideally, that won't be an issue. (As hopefully health isn't, either.)
Agree. Based on everything being said by his former coaches and teammates, Jackson is a leader.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Both men deserve a lot of playing time this season. However, NPF also deserves a lot. If he is not the starting RT, he should be the backup at both Tackle positions. I believe that his will be a very solid OL and quite deep. Cupp also deserves some PT.
The town my cousin lives in deserves a real grocery store. Knowone deserve to play more then the next hard working player... you must earn it! I just want a championship so just play the best... I deserve it..
Correct, No one deserves a grocery store, you have to earn one.
Why would NPF be the backup at both tackle spots? Alabi has already shown he's can get the job done against very good talent. We're still waiting to see what NPF can do. Not sure why we'd demote Alabi to 3rd string...
Well, why not just play the best players? My point was that if NPF is a better tackle then Alabi or Bowen, then he needs to play! If Wilson is better then then Victor or Mack, he needs to play! IF sophomores are better then seniors, they need to play!
I agree. My point is we KNOW Alabi can get the job done. He's already PROVEN he can get it done against COLLEGE players. His production is not a PREDICTION. So why would he be demoted to 3rd team for someone we're HOPING can backup BOTH tackle spots? If he's that good, he's got my vote..
Also, I was replying to DC's comment (or at least trying to lol)
Unless we are at practice we can only guess who should be playing but if NPF doesn't get the nod that's 3 years and a 5 star player. Then Again C.Jackson isn't starting either the last I saw.
We need a minimum of 8 "starting quality" O linemen going into the season, with a group of solid backups behind them. True, you don't want to break up the 'chemistry' of a starting 5, but with our 5th year guys, it's not tough for them to be 'chemically consistent' with the starters, if not homogenous. Our line play will be key to JF success as a first year starter in the B1G.
Exactly how many programs have “8 quality starters”?
tOSU - does now, probably few others yet those few are likely our foes in the playoffs (those 2 teams that have won the title OTHER than tOSU). This is the reality of a season that hinges on no losses as a midwest or west coast team! - Given the results from the PAC-12 and the B1G, undefeated is likely the only way to assure our team a seat and that requires us winning the line on both sides of the ball!
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
The line will be the anchor and may be addition by subtraction this year (no offense to Prince or whomever). For some like Davis and Myers, sitting and waiting gives them something to work towards. Not to mention, the experience of Bowen, Munford and Johnson will help them out as well (assuming JJ wins out at guard*).
It is time!!!!!
I think the line is going to be very good this year. A lot of talent up front. It makes me feel better to know we have a backup guard (Bowen or Jackson) and a backup tackle (Alabi) who has proven they can get the job done. Depth is critical!
As UFM used to say, "This is an offensive-line-driven team". I'm sure that is one of the things Coach Day is definitely not going to change.
While most of the potential new starters don't have a great deal of game experience, few of the major candidates to fill the four open spots are really new to the program. Five-star recruits who've been in the program nearly three years - like Myers and Davis - shouldn't need more time either physically or mentally to be ready to play. And if another 5-star, rs fr Petit-Frere, is ready to go, he's ready to go.
I am by no means married to the "star" system, but I have to admit the prospect of three 5-stars in a row - starting at center, right guard and right tackle - does have an appeal.
Don't get me wrong - I appreciate what the red-shirt seniors may be able to bring to the table - and I hope they each have a huge impact in their final season. But senior leadership aside, if we have juniors and/or red-shirt sophomores who are better options both in the short - and in the long term - - well, seniority alone shouldn't be a major factor -
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers
Isn’t every football team in HS, college and pro offensive line driven?
Every HS, college, and pro team that wants to score points most certainly is, lol!
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
The good ones are. But haven't we all seen teams who were not very good on the O-line (through inexperience, injuries etc.) that had to compensate with changes offensively - trick plays, etc.
Perhaps, one of the keys to UFM's success over the years is that his focus on the O-line was so intense, he never really found himself in that position. I can think of several coaches who can't say that -
Agreed, it is another reason why Scott Frost at Nebraska worries me - as does Art Briles honestly if he and his ilk are ever in our conference. He openly said he built the offense he runs (Scott Frost) to over come the D-Lines of the SEC by playing outside the hash as often as possible. This means he has designed a team to score on us while eliminating (as much as possible) our greatest strength!
I couldn't agree more about Frost. In fact, his Huskers gave us all we could handle last season, as you may recall. Nebraska - on their home turf with a 100% Martinez might just be the scariest game on the schedule -
Ummmmm trickery gets you nowhere.
May the best men win. And have a couple be good enough to be all B1G or better. GO BUCKS!
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
I'm buying as much stock in this OL as I can now...I think this OL is going to be special, for the simply fact that we will see true interior OL playing G and C. To me, that's why there was so much struggle in the run game. It's why there aren't traditionally 6'6" and 6'7" Guards and Centers playing. Can't get those arms extended and into the DL to get a push.
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Wow! Over 12 hours since the article and not one negative mention of Stud?
On paper, the O-line should be fine if they can gel in camp and avoid the catastrophic injuries that cut into depth long-term. Frankly, I’m excited to see Jackson play, because anyone that can draw accolades while at Rutgers must be a special player indeed.
And maybe, just maybe, this year’s slobs will commit fewer false starts. I swear, sometimes watching them the last two years reminded me of when JB Shugarts was out there.
They won’t gel in camp too many new faces. However, I think they have a ton of talent and expect them to be a lot better then most are predicting. It might take 4-5 games to really hit full stride but it will come together.
Glad to have the experience of these two, wether it’s for depth or a starting spot. They have played a good amount and have been around the program for a long time so both can be counted on in a pinch.
While the 2015 class had some stars (Ward, Baker, D. Jones, Weber, etc.), there are a lot of names listed that never panned out, such as Feder, Stump, Schmidt, EGW, and Gibson.
You win in the trenches. Teams with both dominating OL and DL end up in the playoffs. Go Bucks