Last Chance U Season 4

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HOLYbucknut's picture

Just finished episode 2 before I left for work and will get another one or two in before I hit the sack. I have no clue how Bobby Bruce keeps getting in these situations when he’s been given so many chances. That team is LOADED though.

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GunnerBuck's picture

That's what I was thinking too. He seems to be a good kid, he's just impulsive and seems to be a follower. 

I hope he can get his shit together, that child is gunna need him to be a man, not a boy. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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NHBuckeye's picture

Gonna dig into this today.  I had intended to watch last night but then noticed the new episodes of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee and watched those first.  

Last Chance U is a great show.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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AnnArborsBuckeye's picture

I really like this Kailon David kid. He seems to have a good heart. Ep 4 really ramps up the intensity. That's as far as Ive gotten so far.

Get dumped then

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MorrowCoNut's picture

I was very interested in watching this season based on their record from last year. Will be interesting to see how things unfolded behind the scenes. 

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jmmysms's picture

Thanks for the notification. Started watching last night. Always have mixed emotions on the coach and some of the "kids".

The story about the assistant coach living in dorm paints a painful picture.

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Anglefan's picture

What is everyone’s thoughts on the coach? It seems to me he makes everything all about him and he doesn’t really care about or try to connect with the kids. I don’t like him. 

That English teacher is amazing though. These kids need someone to care about them and show them that the only worth in their life isn’t how good they are at football. 

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BuckeyeDropout's picture

I hate the guy. I had to turn the show off midway through season 3. I flat out couldn’t stand him. Enjoyed seasons 1 and 2 though. 

What we have currently available is what we have available.

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aj99's picture

I thought he was doing better this season. But I'm four episodes in and I hate him again. His rival coach is a jack wagon too. It has to be a juco thing.

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OHinTN's picture

Same for me.  I thought about trying S4, but from reading the comments, it just seems like more of the same from S3.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Not going to spoil it, but there is a scene in the middle of the season that involves a book the coach was sent by Lane Kiffin and it tells you all you need to know about him. I actually lol'd at the lack of awareness he had during the scene. 

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aj99's picture

Yes! I was like, man your friend is trying to help you. Tragic Irony. I also thought the cover said "International Best Seller!"

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GunnerBuck's picture

It was funny too because you know he didnt even attempt/think of reading it. He brought it up to brag about getting a gift from Kiffen instead of using it as a tool like it was obviously meant to be.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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MichiBuck12's picture

I go back and forth on Coach Brown. I think his greatest strength is that he understands where these kids come from. But I think his biggest weakness is that he's too much like them. He acts purely on emotion most of the time and if you're trying to instill discipline into kids who have never had any, the worst thing you can do is be just as undisciplined as they are. Jason Brown also loves him some Jason Brown. Constantly talkin about his Cadillacs and the gifts he gets from other coaches, and all the attention he got from being on the show. I think he really does care about the kids and wants them to succeed but I think he cares about himself more. I think this season was the inevitable end result for a guy like that. Teams tend to take on the demeanor of their coach. And selfish and undisciplined is a pretty perfect description of both JB and the team.

Having said that, the coach at Garden City is an absolute jackass. When you get so thoroughly out classed by Jason fricken Brown, you should be ashamed of yourself.

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WesBranscum's picture

I dont think JB out classes him, I think JB was smart and didnt put anything on video and tried to act like the good guy, or it was edited in favor of JB. JB was talking mad shit too

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MichiBuck12's picture

I will leave room for the possibility of some creative editing. However, When Indy jumped out to an early lead they showed JB celebrating and none of it was directed at the Garden City sideline. Then post game they showed where it went off the rails. They clearly showed the GC coach taunting players and assistants while looking for JB. If JB was talking shit and looking for a fight, the GC coach would not have had to look for him as hard as he did. He was clearly the one in the wrong. JB may have talked shit at some point, but in that moment as the game ended the GC coach was very clearly being outclassed by a long shot.

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Brohio's picture

Im about the biggest tough love kind of guy and I am definitely not gonna be one of those parents cussing out teachers/coaches for my little perfect child's shortcomings...with that said I can't believe parents watch Coach Brown and don't pull their kids off the team immediately. Truly a scumbag. Also, the drinking this dude does on camera is pretty wild. Clearly a full blown alcoholic. Good luck with the 8 felony charges bud lol

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aj99's picture

Right. I do feel for the kids. It's definitely last chance u for them and he's not exactly setting the world on fire to be a role model for them.

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GunnerBuck's picture

Every time he hits adversity he talks about drinking and/or smoking a "stick", every time he's off the field he's got a drink in his hand. It's unreal, couple that with the other social issues he has, it's not a good combination. 

I also have no issues with his cussing the players out when they deserve it and etc but just simply talking shit to them (and the coaches) all the time is bullshit. I havent seen him actually coach in the 1 3/4 seasons I've watched him on the show and I'm not sure if that's the shows editing or he just hasnt coached.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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b01000100's picture

I feel the stupidity of most people involved in the show is just next level.  I don't mean that anyone is necessarily dumb intelligence-wise; we all have our strengths and weaknesses.  I just mean that the people involved make some of the dumbest decisions for their own reasons.  I also don't mean just the players.

It is a mystery to me that the players would act certain ways knowing what the technology is capable of during filming (being that they are young and understand most of it).  If they are trying to get a D1 offer somewhere, why would they do the things they are doing?  They are allowing themselves to be filmed driving wedges between coaches and teammates.  What teams would want someone who spends time badmouthing coaches or teammates?  They show themselves demonstrating a lack of interest in the very things that are required at D1 schools.  Not all athletes at D1 schools are pre-med or anything, but pulling Fs in various subjects and barely being able to communicate can't be a big seller to a big-time school.  If you are Markiese King, is talking/bragging about concussions really a great idea with the scrutiny that football is facing over head injuries?

I get that these people are still relatively young.  For the ones that are legit D1 talents, though, I don't understand how they don't understand that 1 good season of effort will translate into offers.  It is a really good example of the difficulty coaches and staff are facing at the big colleges.  If these players struggle with the JUCO college experience, imagine what it would be like in a big city with everyone going crazy over you. 

I am only a few episodes in, so I don't know how everyone ended up yet.  Markiese King, as an example of all of the above, looked like a pretty solid receiver that could probably make a splash at a bigger school.  Instead of just pushing hard through a good season--regardless of the team's record--he just completely shits all over himself by rushing back from concussions and trying the whole tough guy thing.

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GunnerBuck's picture

I think some of it is the way it's framed but a lot of it is the way the kids act. Lets be honest, a lot of them are there for a reason and being immature, irrational, selfish, etc is a big part of that reason.

You can also tell the kids who are really good and stable because you don't see them anywhere on film but they're the #1 player in the nation.. 

King seems to be electric on the show but is irrational and IMO, if the film crew knew he had concussions they should have told the med staff. You're putting a kids life in danger by not getting him the medical attention he needs. He will definitely be a CTE case when he's older just based on the hits he hates on the show and his size/position.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Chic'sGhost's picture

If they had the sense you wished they had, they would not be on this show.  The behavior you question is the reason they are there. 

"You're welcome for the house I built."

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stxbuck's picture

Exactly-everyone loves a trainwreck and East Mississippi CC serves up new ones every year.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I think its important to keep in mind, and the show tries to portray this; but these kids did not grow up like you and me. Most of these kids had zero guidance whatsoever and most likely the only "role models" some of these kids had were the neighborhood drug dealers. Nobody has ever showed them how to work through adversity or how to set emotion aside and do what needs to be done. These kids act 100% on emotion because they have never been taught how to channel their emotions into productivity. So they might know they need to get certain grades or perform a certain way on the field, but its one thing to know those things and a totally different thing to actually do the homework when you don't feel like it, or try harder when the coach gets in your face.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I finished season 4 a couple days ago. I honestly thin the guy is just a total creep. It's amazing that parents could allow their kids to go play for that guy. 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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WesBranscum's picture

I was pumped Garden City beat Indy

WesBranscum

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aj99's picture

Netflix didn't mention it, but Day is in serious legal trouble. He impersonated a lawyer from Johnny Cochran's firm and sent the Independence Newspaper a cease and desist letter. 10 charges, 8 of them are felonies. Ouch.  

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/29/last-chance-u-coach...

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ThePritch's picture

You mean Jason Brown, maybe? Lol

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aj99's picture

LOL. Thanks for catching that!  I kept calling him Day the whole season. Not because of tOSU coach but because I have a life long friend named Jason Day. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

I just finished the episode of the Coffeyville game. So far this season makes me want more of the story. The Iowa Western incident specifically. The show made it look like JB was pretty reasonable and the refs were "Remember the Titans" level bad. I'm sure the officiating was questionable or even bad, but I have a hard time believing they just blatantly fucked Indy like that knowing the entire thing was on camera. I just suspect there is more to the story. Same thing with the Garden City incident. They make Coach Brown out to be a pretty reasonable guy during the game and GC coach being an absolute lunatic. And that very well may be. On gameday JB absolutely outclassed that loser at Garden City. But I'm curious for more of the story about what lead up to all that. I get the feeling that Netflix is telling us the story they want to tell and not necessarily the story of what actually went down.

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cmented36's picture

I couldn't get through season 3 due to the coach, it actually made me feel bad for Malik Henry and he didn't exactly act very like able. But I mean how are you a football coach and you don't like work on strategy or coaching at all, just yelling at everybody to go hard... insane that people pay guys like that to coach. 

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Buckeye0905's picture

I found it interesting that Jason Brown only makes $60k a year. I guess it shouldn’t surprise me as his assistants are living in cinderblock dorms (and it’s a CC in Kansas) but they made him look like a homerun hire at the beginning of last season.

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Calgarybuck's picture

I wonder what bonus's are included.  You also have to keep in mind, its CC football in Kansas, it's not like you can pay assistants much of a livable wage.  It's basically make it big or find another line of work.

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