Anyone interested in betting their pension?
Justin Fields for Heisman!!!
Everyone knows Fields will eventually be the starter, but he hasn't earned it right now. He still has a ways to go.
Wow does Ryan Day have an 11W burner account?
I think Day just wants to see Fields compete all the way through. No denying his talent. Day is just making him a stronger player both mentally and physically.
The QB situation is a little scary right now. Fields didn’t look that great in the Spring game. Sounds like Day knows he’s going to take some time to settle in. No power 5 team in the non conference will help him ease in. (although I wish we were playing some power 5 non conference opponents).
The Spring Game means little. Fields is still learning Day's system and IIRC Haskins didn't look good in the 2018 Spring Game either (I distinctly remember Burrow outplaying him). We saw how little that mattered come regular season. Everybody is always a little rusty during the Spring Games.
I understand the premise that it is a glorified practice but seeing the number of batted balls at the line and his struggles to find passing lanes is at least something to keep an eye on. There is also no way for us to know how well he is doing at the cerebral aspects of being the qb at a big time program. He was either not given or did not earn that right at Georgia.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
The bottom line is that Fields had been on the team a matter of weeks before his spring game, and Haskins had been on the team for two seasons before his. You really can't compare the two.
Considering multiple other factors including line play, the players each had on the field to work with and plays called, it seems as though Day was trying to give Baldwin a platform to show off for potential landing spots... If we believe what was said about his transfer having been decided and discussed long before the spring game.
As far as Haskins vs Burrow in the spring game, that's a whole other topic.. but if you watched their actual plays instead of just comparing raw stats, it was clear who was going to be our QB.
In regards to the Haskins and Burrow comparison in 2018 Spring Game Haskins had the eye-opening plays but Burrow performed better overall (Haskins was inconsistent and errant on a lot of throws). Ultimately they chose to go with Haskins' upside which was the right call (though Burrow also kind of made the choice for them by transferring before Meyer had made his decision).
Playbook or not, Fields will not replicate Dwayne Haskins' performance from last year. I'm thinking this year will be like Braxton's last year at QB with a slightly better throwing game. Let's not forget that Braxton wasn't terrible at throwing either so I have hope.
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
Braxton's last year at QB was completely injury-plagued and effectively ended his career as a QB so bite your tongue lol. We would've been better off starting Guiton for the majority of the 2013 season. Braxton never seemed like he was 100% when he came back from his first injury and Herman ran him WAY too frequently. We all saw how much of a beating he took in that bowl game against Clemson (with Meyer refusing to pull him for his own protection). I hope to God Day doesn't repeat that formula with Fields. He won't last very long if he does.
lol - but he didn't look bad! i'm just trying to not let expectations get out of whack like many already seem to be doing. truth is that we won't know until midway through the season as to how good he can be. the OL will have to be solid to get Fields comfortable and gain the confidence to show the world what he can do.
I actually believe Coach Day when he says it is an open competition. Of course, if I had to bet on it, I'd go with Fields - but stranger things have happened than the lower ranked recruit (based on his high school days) coming in and playing lights out at the college level.
These are college kids, after all. Different rates of maturity, etc. - and Hoak has a couple more years of college under his belt. Think of it this way - our 5-star recruit at middle linebacker watched a less highly regarded recruit - from the class immediately prior to his - start at the position last season.
Again - I'd probably bet on Fields if I had to bet - but stranger things have happened
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers
Considering Day has seen two QBs transfer this off-season in search of immediate PT saying it's an open competition is the right approach to take. It keeps the spirits up and doesn't risk guys jumping ship en masse in search of PT as much.
Yeah but I don't think the NCAA is going to grant Hoak two grad transfers
With the transfer portal's accessibility anything's possible. I have no doubt if Fields were to somehow NOT win the starting job here that he would quickly jump back into the portal and take his talents elsewhere (maybe not this year but certainly next year). Hoak seems a little more patient than guys like Fields and Martell are in regards to PT but that still doesn't mean Day shouldn't be careful not to say anything publically that could alienate him. Saying Fields is the starter now and that nobody else will be given an opportunity to compete this year would be pushing it to say the least.
Both of these guys have something to prove so they'll both be giving it their all. And while I give Justin the advantage, history says we will need Gunnar to be ready to win a game at some point this season.
I like the phrase "manage expectations".
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
No mention of Chugs, I noticed :(
"Because I couldn't go for three." - Woody Hayes
Honestly, if it is a competition with Hoak, I am surprised the only guy with 2 college starts and more experience in the program does not get a mention.
He is the starter but Day certainly needs to manage expectations.
Day has the correct philosophy. Fields clearly has the ability, but Gunnar Hoak has more experience and plenty of ability as well. No one is just handed the QB job at TOSU. By earning it, one of them will also earn the respect of his teammates and the right to be the team’s leader. No one can simply be handed those reins. If Joe Burrow was still here, he would be the team leader and even someone with Fields’ ability would be hard-pressed to win the job. I hope that Hoak is also participating in these throwing sessions.
There is no "managing expectations" at Ohio State, and that, at least in part, is why Ohio State is one of college football's most tradition-laden and winning programs historically. Everyone associated with the program, even those on the periphery, expect a win every week, and at minimum, a B1G title at season's end... so all involved should embrace that, because there is no other option. Like Fred Pagac said, 'If you don't like the pressure then Ohio State is definitely not the place for you... maybe you should go to Purdue or Illinois where you can go 7-5 and they'll build a statue for you.' I paraphrased, but that's the gist of it. Bottom line? Win... or OSU will find someone who can.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Or Iowa. 7-5 gets you COY
agreed. i love the buckeyes - have for over 50 years. but right now, it's clemson and bama at the top. we've been winning games, yea; but, for all it's winning, the bucks have had 3 of the worse losses in ohio state history over the last 3 years. and they weren't just losess - osu got @ss-stomped in all 3. winning 11 games at ohio state isn't good enough if that one loss every year is a blowout.
in all honesty, i don't think this year will be the year we compete for a national title but i'm hoping we get back to that point next year.
I'd use JT Barrett's first year as a measuring stick. If Fields/Hoak can perform to those standards I'll take it.
I like the idea of not naming because it's beneficial to Hoak to work hard to be ready. This was as much about him as Fields.
Sure, Day is saying all the right things and handling it correctly. However, something tells that when Day said, "...but I feel like Justin can bring a lot to the offense." means, "Oh, boy, just wait until you guys get a load of the offense this year."
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
No matter how highly touted a player is as a recruit, he’s expected to prove he’s ready to play with his performance on the practice field, and Day said that still needs to happen in the weeks leading up to the start of the season.
I completely understand and agree with this statement. However, I have an insane amount of anxiety about not announcing a starting QB when I think of how those "competing" for the position may perceive the situation - especially when it comes to individuals who have already transferred once.
As said, I agree with the statement and understand why that kind of "coach-speak" is being used (ultimately to keep pushing the two fighting for the position and make them better with perhaps other reasons included) but damn this anxiety is killing me until the official starter is announced.
I cannot wait for this season to start.
"If Chase Young is truly bigger than I think he is and taller than I think he is, he would probably have to be the literal Predator because I've seen him with my own two eyes and I personally think he's pretty damn Sasquatchian." - Kevin Harrish
Don't let it get to you. I think Day is being honest when he says it's a competition.. but considering physical gifting and raw skill sets, it's pretty clear one of them has a distinct natural advantage and would have to screw up royally to lose it
Day is saying what he needs to say re: Fields and Hoak. We would all be shocked if Hoak outperformed Fields at this point, Hoak included! We still need a pair and a spare, so I want Hoak to prep like it's his job also.