Ryan Day Confident Ohio State Can Rely on Experienced Defense After Down Season

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Montana silver bullet's picture

Gotta live up to the "Silver Bullets" moniker

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Braxton'sSpinMove's picture

Return of the silver bullets!!! 

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Hovenaut's picture

“Is it going to be perfect? No. It's not going to be perfect,” Day said. “But we're going to have to solve the problems as they come because they're going to come. And how quickly we can solve those problems I think will indicate the kind of defense we're going to be.”

If there's ever a Hallmark card that offers comfort and hope towards the future and a better defense...

Let's go Buckeyes.

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buckslan's picture

Ain't even worried about the defense one bit. They'll be better than the offense this season, especially during the first half of the season. I think Nebraska is the only offense we'll face in the first six games that might put 17+ on us.

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

I think you’re mistaken if you think that’s Cincinnati’s offense isn’t going to challenge a defense that will still be learning how to play a new scheme...

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buckslan's picture

If OSU cuts down on the big plays allowed, I don't see Cincy marching down the field and scoring td's. Anything over 14 points would be considered a let down.

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BrazilianBuckeye's picture

And that's the great big 'if" ain't it?

OSU 2019 defense - The Twelfth Man

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allinosu's picture

Well that's one opinion but another is that on a neutral field Cincy vs Nebraska at this point would be a very close game.

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Extramedium's picture

Well theoretically they are learning it now. 

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

They’re learning it now yes but anyone you install a new scheme, there’s gonna be some cracks that get found early on. And it usually takes an opponent spending hours on your film to find them.

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CincinnatiBuck12's picture

Hell year we are going to be good and wipe the floor with the tools up north. Go Bucks 

Go Bucks

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Buckfrombirth's picture

With almost the entire defense back that ended the year and a staff that's motivated and saying the right things, I'm optimistic. But, those players have a lot to prove as a unit. If the same kinds of issues arise this season, I'll start believing that the problems may be a lot more about the Jimmies and Joes, and less about the Xs and Os.

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

I would love to hear Coppers true thoughts someday.

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BuckWylde's picture

Who's Copper?

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

Copper Harley... Toppers twin brother

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buckeye phi's picture

I'm with those who expect a dramatic defensive turnaround from last season.  But even if it's only a modest turnaround - if the offense is as potent as I think it will be, that may be enough. 

And I'm even more encouraged when I hear Coach Day saying things like this: 

“And so when I go to bed at night, I think to myself, 'Boy, we should be pretty good.' I said it to the guys on the staff. I said, 'Do you want a better D-line? Do you want a better secondary? Do you want better linebackers? I don't know if there's better players out there in the country. Maybe there are – I'd like to see them.'“And so when I go to bed at night, I think to myself, 'Boy, we should be pretty good.' I said it to the guys on the staff. I said, 'Do you want a better D-line? Do you want a better secondary? Do you want better linebackers? I don't know if there's better players out there in the country. Maybe there are – I'd like to see them." 

Can't wait!

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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buckeye phi's picture

I'm with those who expect a dramatic defensive turnaround from last season.  But even if it's only a modest turnaround - if the offense is as potent as I think it will be, that may be enough. 

And I'm even more encouraged when I hear Coach Day saying things like this: 

“And so when I go to bed at night, I think to myself, 'Boy, we should be pretty good.' I said it to the guys on the staff. I said, 'Do you want a better D-line? Do you want a better secondary? Do you want better linebackers? I don't know if there's better players out there in the country. Maybe there are – I'd like to see them."

Can't wait!

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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buckeye phi's picture

Oops!  Tried to edit and somehow posted another.  Weird -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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MoEddieRobtCarlosBeanie's picture

I’m downvoting because we are getting close to the season starting and we need to eliminate mistakes.

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milhouse4588's picture

Cooper's shrug says it all to me. What happened last shouldn't have occurred and the right people are in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Bring it on.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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buckinraleigh's picture

So yeah, it was coaching.  But I'd love to know exactly what they did to screw up the defense.

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IGotAWoody's picture

With all the analysis that's been put into it, I think it's safe to infer that the main problem was that the coaches were not on the same page and were not synching, mainly Schiano and Grinch. That caused the players to get conflicting directives, which had them thinking too much and not able to react/use their instincts fully.

Our linebacker coaching was clearly lacking, too. Most likely Schiano was being pulled in multiple directions, trying to fix the linebacker play AND work on the secondary, which is his bread and butter. And like I said, if he and Grinch weren't totally clicking, then the safeties were not going to totally click either.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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DP71's picture

If these excellent coaches can get the returning players plus some incoming freshmen to play up to their abilities, we will have a top 15 defense or better. And, that’s all we’ll need. Go Bucks!

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

Sleep while you can, Coach.

I feel pretty good about the D.  When you look at the roster there should be no reason the Buckeyes can't be great.  I thought that last year as well.  Time will tell.

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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PsyBuck's picture

I'm almost, if not more, excited to see the turnaround this defense can make than to see how good Justin Fields really is.

We'll see. All I know is if the defense is even halfway back to what we're used to seeing, the Justin Fields doesn't play like he's Helen Keller, it should be a very good year for the good guys.

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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IGotAWoody's picture

Hey, why you hatin' on Helen Keller? She was a baller!

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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BucksHave7's picture

Why wont anyone speak the truth, Greg Schiano owns the defense last season?  Most points allowed and most yards allowed per game in a single season, worst ever in history of tOSU.   On the bright side, that team still finished #3 in final polls. 

Thats why Im so optimistic for this season! We return 85% of tackles, 2nd in all of FBS.  When was last time we returned so much production on Defense?  Anyone know?

BucksHave7

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LawClub's picture

Not clear it was Schiano or just him, anyway. He was coordinator, yeah but we just don't know.

It's a motivator for this year, at least.

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Beaver's picture

Hopefully, there will be some favorite player personnel changes. There is no way the best D athletes were on the field last year. Just like Meyer had blind loyalties to his buddy D coaches, the buddy coaches had blind loyalties to some of the players. Let’s have a strong fresh start.

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Brandon26841's picture

What's the excuse going to be when the same ol' players trot back out there with entirely new defensive coaches, as well as a new head coach? How are we going to spin the whole "the coaches don't care about putting the best product on the field, even though their jobs depend on it... they just play favorites!" thing then?

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kybuckfan's picture

Couldn't agree with you more on this.  

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BucksHave7's picture

The fact last last years secondary was told to not look for the football and only look at the defenders eyes is a joke.   We have faster, more athletic athletes who were forced to play w one arm tied behind their back.   

Honestly, hate to say it, but there is a reason Schiano isnt coaching anymore.

BucksHave7

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Extramedium's picture

He lead top ten defenses at OSU before Davis and Grinch showed up.  

Oh and he had a job with the Patriots that he chose to walk away from.  You know, that also-ran NFL organization that doesn't win anything and is famous for setting low standards for coaches. 

 Not sure what your deal with Schiano is but it's starting to seem personal.

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BucksHave7's picture

If Schiano had the #1 ranked defense in FBS last year, Id give him all the credit in the world. 

But Schiano last year after all his recruiting and scheming led to 403/yrds per game given up and pts per game avg scored against, both the worst in the history of tOSU football.   We are not talking about just an avg tOSU defense last year. 

We are talking about dead last, Schiano's players, schemes and assistants. 

BucksHave7

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BucksHave7's picture

Let me add too that Schiano was the Highest Paid B10 Asst and 7th highest asst of all FBS assistant coaches.  https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

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IGotAWoody's picture

The fact last last years secondary was told to not look for the football and only look at the defenders eyes is a joke.   We have faster, more athletic athletes who were forced to play w one arm tied behind their back.

This is simply not true. And it's a gross over simplification. Schiano and Grinch both talked about this - pass defenders are taught a variety of techniques and employ them based on the situation. If the defender is step for step with the WR, they can turn and try to locate the ball. If they are a step or two behind the WR, they try to watch the defender's eyes and track the ball as it hits his hands.

If they are not right even with the receiver, and they turn to locate the ball, they can't defend the catch and the WR is now behind them and likely gone after the catch.

Having played and coached in the secondary myself, it's one of the hardest things to do for an athlete. The offense always has the advantage, and the best way to counter that is to try and have better athletes on your defense. When you have great athletes, you can still get burned by good execution. 

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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GVerrilli92's picture

HEY! WHOA THERE BUDDY!

You watch yourself bringing educated football talk to the equation! All the Uncle Ricos on here won't take too kindly to it...

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Madbuckeye's picture

I'm definitely not alone in saying I'm extremely excited to see this team play. So many questions coming in, and I think most will be great results. Haven't been this interested to see what happens since 2014.

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GoBuckeyes1020's picture

On defense, there's a group of guys over there who are salty who have a lot to prove

By far the biggest reason for optimism going into the 2019 season. 

The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick

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ronaprhys's picture

One would think that, with an almost entirely new coaching staff (keeping the one coach who had the brightest spot on the D) that favorites would no longer be considered.  It's entirely blank.  The best players should win out, but that remains to be seen.  It may be that we just happen to have some sub-par players out there and hopefully new coaches can cover for that.

What I really hope we see is a new coaching staff that takes the same players and puts them in a better position to win their individual battles - and that they do.  Would love to see a stifling defense.

However, the realist in me simply hopes that we improve to a good defense that doesn't give up huge big plays.  If we can limit those and just play well in the other facets, that'll help support what the offense should be doing - which is scoring points by the metric ton.  

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stpetebuck's picture

How many teams in the country can really  say they have the talent and potential  to win the nc? Really only a handful, and the Buckeyes are one of them.  

The last few years will be remembered for the ‘big stumble’ games and plays. For me I’m waiting to see if Ryan Day can end the Iowa/Purdue epic fails.  Everything else is in place  imo  

Tge 

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