Fields should have plenty of time to get acclimated before Nebraska.
And during the Nebraska game as well.
Be careful coach Frost is there now.
Ohio, the greatest state in the Union!
With a few sports outlets picking Mythigan to win the East and the fucktard comment by Hairball about Meyer there's no lack of added fire! Thanks bitches.
Going undefeated is really hard to do. I’m not sure we do go undefeated. I think we may have a loss this year at some point, it just can’t be another loss like the past two years. Lord please don’t let us have another loss like the past 2 years.
As long as that loss is not to Um, I'm good.
That sort of goes without saying.
It really is tough to make bold predictions with this team because there are 3 big unknowns:
1. Can Day be the type of manager of a program that Urban was? The continued success in recruiting is a good sign that he has the same discipline and structure Urban had. Now he has to prove he can do the same in game prep and making the tough in-game decisions expected of a top coach. We know he can lead an offense.
2. What will the offense look like with Fields at the helm? It's a lot to ask for Fields to be the type of passer Haskins was. There's a chance we see a bit of a hybrid between what we got with Haskins and what JT was before that. In a perfect world Fields is a better passer than JT while being the dual threat that Haskins wasn't. Deshaun Watson has always been the high end comp for Fields so that's the best case scenario. Fields ran for 266 yards and 4 tds in very limited time last season so he's going to be a bit different than Haskins.
3. Did Day make the right hires on D? OSU was always known for having a stout D. Things started to sag at times in 2017 and then became downright erratic last season. I can't imagine things getting much worse than 2018 for the D, but going undefeated would likely mean the D returns to what it was prior to the last two seasons.
I think a case can be made the Buckeyes can go undefeated but if they do it will because those three questions were answered positively. For me they are important enough questions that I probably wouldn't make that bold of a prediction. I'm optimistic for the season though.
1-Program management issues generally don't explode in the middle of the season, so I don't think that will be something to worry about immediately. As far as game prep and game managment, day will be fine. If anything, this is his first full season in charge so he will prepare more than Urban did, and and be more hands on/less reliant on his psychic safety blankets.
2-Remember, Day coordinated the offense for a year w/ JT Barrett, so he is used to working with a QB in the mold of Fields, albeit with far fewer physical gifts.I think the 19' offense could look like a more efficient and-hopefully-explosive version of the 17' offense.
3-The improvement of the D will be the key for tOSU making a serious run to the playoffs. If the D is a cluster**k going into Lincoln, tOSU won't walk out w/ a win.
Honestly, Urban's weakness was as a game day strategist. Ryan Day seems to be a game day auteur/wizard, so if he is handling the "head of the program" duties fine, dare we say, perhaps we have someone who can carry on the program's legacy? I'm hoping I am not just talking out my derriere, but I think the proper coach comparison for Day, could be Woody Hayes, albeit, perhaps a more emotionally restrained version.
Beantown, I’m pretty positive on these items. Just a quick rundown in response to your points.
1. Culture is a tough thing to build and also a tough thing to tear down. He’s kept a lot of the same program values. Bigger even are the fact that Marotti and Pantoni (the heartbeats of the program) are still here.
Frankly, as great as he was, Urban was not the greatest in game coach. Clock management, going to his QB run crutch, etc. Day hasn’t been tested in a late, tight game yet. TCU was a bit of a warm up and no concerns here with me.
2. I think with Day’s history, we will see a RB heavy run and QB pass heavy offense. Our QB run in the past with Meyer, Herman, and others was the rule and not the exception. No one was fooled with our QB run. I think with Fields, it will be more selective, strategic, and the exception. 10 carries a game on called runs, read options, and scrambles. Not 15+ like we have seen in the past. Plus, we have more receiving weapons than we’ve ever had. And Day can help call a great short game if Fields struggles.
3. This is the biggest question. But consider this. One of the worst defenses in recent memory still had us at 13-1. And you have to think there will be vast improvements.
4. I’ll add a 4th since I think this was what caught Urban on a few occasions with coaches, etc - Whithers, Warriner, Schiano, Davis, etc. If things are not going well, will Day step in and make changes, either with philosophy, personnel, or coaching / play calling duties. Urban let this stuff go until it bit us and we lost. Day strikes me as a results guy over relationship, and will make these moves if necessary. And maybe 2 bye weeks this year is a blessing that allows this to happen.
4. I’ll add a 4th since I think this was what caught Urban on a few occasions with coaches, etc - Whithers, Warriner, Schiano, Davis, etc. If things are not going well, will Day step in and make changes, either with philosophy, personnel, or coaching / play calling duties. Urban let this stuff go until it bit us and we lost.
Good point, but it made me think of 2015, and now I am sad. haha
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I would add players to that list as well. Many accuse Urban of being susceptible in his relationships with players as well as coaches. When Braxton went down so late in fall camp it really forced the coaches to coach without overthinking as much. Just like how @ PSU and TCU Day adjusted with the screen passes against the blitzing. Our toughest games back to back. Chase Young came up big with the absence of Nick Bosa. If the OL develops with a not so hard OOC schedule leading up to Nebraska, this is a very talented team. Dangerous mix for our opponents, young talented players and coaches. Nebraska could get a test @ Illinois the week before hosting the buckeye’s. As we are surely to get tested for a half against Fickle and the Bearcats.
Pretty good run 2014. 14-1 NatChamps 2015 13-1 late home loss to msu 2016 11-2 debacle vs the dabo’s,2017 12-2 Iowa happened 2018 13-1 big underdogs blasting ttun highlight of the year
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Day is already a better program manager by recognizing the D coaches (other than Johnson) sucked and replaced them with upgrades. Day already proved he can run an offense.
Undefeated including the playoffs? I have rose colored glasses on and can easily justify an undefeated regular season & B1G Championship. Ballsy, to pick em beating Clemson and/or Alabama also.
A Michigan fan must have went through this thread and just downvoted everything
Ryan Day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time.
I normally am conservative about the upcoming seasons but I just got the feeling we get the job done with just a couple of close shaves which actually helps them grow.
After clueless hairlessball's comment today, that bulletin board material will motivate a few dozen players just a tad more. Undefeated is looking real good.................
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
As Mark May once learned the hard way, do not bet against Joey Galloway.
I personally would pump the brakes on the undefeated talk for now.This season is way to dependent on the QB who I like but he is unproven and inexperienced.
The same was true for Dwayne Haskins at this time last year. An unproven QB isn't exactly a bad thing if he's uber talented.
Unproven is one thing. I have all of the confidence in the world in Fields. Yet as Dwayne alluded to, only having less than a year to learn Coach Day’s system may prove to be problematic.
I disagree but I do pick OSU to only lose one game in the regular season. But this time the aforementioned won't prevent us from entering the college football playoffs because it'll be really close.
The schedule is weak, we'll need to go undefeated to make the playoff.
Meh, the OOC schedule is weak, but the conference schedule is the toughest it’s been in years. Road games at TTUN, Nebraska, and Northwestern. Home against PSU the week before TTUN is scary. Plus MSU, and Wisconsin at home.
Plus as group of five teams go, Cincy and FAU should be respectable wins.
It's entirely possible we could have 5 wins over Top 25 teams in Nebraska (who might not be ranked when we play them but could be ranked by season's end), Wisconsin, PSU, MSU, and Michigan.
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
What about Cincy and Northwestern?
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
Nebraska will be ranked week 1, i'd put money on it. If they win their first 4 games (which they should) we will be playing a top 15 team at home in prime time. Beating them would be a good win for Held but losing would be a disaster. Hope he can pull out a tough one and start the season off strong.
You think a 4-8 team that was 0-5 on the road is going to be ranked week 1?
Yes. What does last year have to do with this year?
Almost every preseason mag and poll has them ranked. So yes i think theres a very good chance that they are ranked week 1.
Athlon has them preseason #17
NCAA dot com has them at #20
USA Today had them at #19
ESPN Ranked them #20 (May 30th release)
I have never seen a back to back 4-8 team get such good press. Its clear that they expect Frost and Martinez to take a UCF size leap forward this year.
Another reason why preseason polls should be completely disregarded when it comes to SOS. That's at least 1 thing the CFP gets right...they don't have rankings until mid-season, however they are obviously based on the current major polls when they are finally released.
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
Not really, BT. Going into the season, this is a top 25 Schedule. We will see how it plays out, but I’ll put the top half of our schedule - Cincinnati, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn St, Michigan St, and Michigan up there with anyone.
As weak as the OOC schedule is, 6 of our 9 conference games are against ranked teams. I also firmly believe UC will be a top 25 team by the end of the year. I think a win against UC will look better at the end of the year than the TCU win did last year.
I agree too. Fields will be great. Probably won’t throw for 50tds, but he’ll be close to that total between running and passing.
I like the faith in this team but hopefully Galloway is better luck for us with his predictions than Desmond Howard is for scUM lol.
If Coach Day has a plan b during a game that plan a isn't working we will be fine.
I correctly predicted OSU's record last year of 11-1 with a loss to Purdue (I predicted that to be the trendy blow out loss)
Let me grace you with my next prediction. OSU is going 12-0. I think the problems of inconsistent defense and not showing up for 1 big game a year are not continuing under Day. I have the utmost faith in his hiring of the 4 defensive assistants he brought in. They are bringing that stout Don Brown defense over to OSU and using our 4 and 5* athletes for it. Also let me say that undefeated prediction solely rests on the idea that Fields stays healthy all year *knocks on wood*
No arguments from me in general, but Mattison isn't Don Brown - and we can only hope that our defense will be as good as the ones he had when coaching with Urban at Florida. His more recent role as DC at TTUN before Don Brown was solid BUT we still won so hopefully it was a lack of talent thing...
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
Yea not Don Brown’s D...it will be Matty’s. He will get the Lb play fixed. Hoping for a top ten D...but a simple bend but don’t break D will probably be enough for BIg play.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Mattison has been a great coordinator wherever he's gone. His defense smothered OSU in the title game 13 years ago.
undefeated would be great, but just beat michigan.....................
Agree with most on this site. If Fields realizes his potential and the D improves (it can hardly get worse), it should be a special year.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
Galloway , never had a good thing to say about the Buckeyes last year so what gives this year? Is he on the way out at ESecPN?
Galloway is one the BEST in the business when it comes to CFB knowledge and commentary. BAR NONE. He looks at things as they are, not with scarlet colored glasses on. Were you butt hurt last year because of something he said that wasn't in our favor?
He is great in studio but average on TV.
There isn't a team on the schedule that OSU shouldn't be able to beat.
Actually going through the regular season undefeated, though...much easier said than done. Probably why that's only happened 3 times in my lifetime (2002, 2006, 2012). I just hope that if a loss does happen, it isn't completely horrifying like Iowa and Purdue the last couple of years.
Class of 2010.
I think the players, coaches, and schedule all make 12-0 a real possibility. However, there are two outstanding questions about Day. First, I know he can coach, but can he handle the mounting pressure of an undefeated campaign? Second, getting a team ready for a rivalry game is a special skill. Tressel had it. Urban had it. Day will need it to get past UM on the road this season.
I think the entire team-players and staff-will be more focused this year, due to the new regime/refocusing on expectations. It's a natural occurrence.
Agree- I also suspect we should see some new hungry players receiving playing time and some may start.
I think it is likely they win the Big Ten, but to do that and the playoff will require Fields to be pretty good, the offensive line to gel to protect Fields and open holes for the ground game and the defense will have to pull things together.
All of those are possible, but they are big asks. The talent is in each position and the coaching is good. Will it happen, I think so but we will have to wait and see.
Nebraska does not scare me as much as some, but the defense better be ready to play at that point.
I missed Galloway's prediction. Where and when did he make it? Did he elaborate on his reasoning?
I know this sounds insane, but mark my words. Day will be an upgrade over Urban. I'm a huge Urban fan, thought he got the shaft last year, and was bummed when he retired. But Day is more of a player's coach, is more open to playing younger guys, and doesn't have controversy hanging over him like Urban did. My only concern was around Day's ability to recruit at or near Urban's level, and he's already looking good in that department.
I'm not saying he's going to win a natty every year, but I don't think we'll see these inexplicable blowout losses to teams like Iowa and Purdue every year, either.