I will have to give it a listen. Here is a piece from Pete Thamel.
Harbaugh’s tenure at Michigan is still more strongly tied to antics rather than accomplishments.
Enough said- 0-4 against Meyer....
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
And he will never have the opportunity to change that record. That is what he gets to take to his grave.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
please teach me how to make gifs lol this is gold
in tears laughing at work rn
Harbaugh is an awkward, socially inept person, and almost everyone agrees with that. His latests comment, while having some validity, at least imo, only serves to perpetuate the general feeling that Harbaugh is an oddball who repeatedly inserts his foot in his mouth. Bottom line... Jim's 0-4 vs Urban, and the latest contest was a beating of historical proportions, so calling out Meyer at this point in the game seems like the definition of sour grapes. You have a program which has been irrelevant on a national level for decades, a program that allows its players to 'guarantee' wins and to publicly belittle its rival, and a head coach who is openly bitter towards a competitor who absolutely OWNED your self-described 'first-class program,' not to mention one that has an inferior APR to the school you're berating.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
I think that program up north is suffering (ironically) from a case of "Little Brother" syndrome as of late due to all the futility they've experienced in the Rivalry (which has gotten worse for them over the last 20 years than the Cooper years ever were for us since they've had to experience the disastrous RichRod and Hoke eras during that time period). Which is why their players, coaches, Desmond Howard, whatever are the ones making all the controversial statements and bold predictions while most everyone in the OSU camp is staying quiet and focused on the task at hand.
In Harbaugh's case A) despite having accomplished nothing of significance so far in his 4 years at scUM he has an ego the size of the continental United States and B) he quite possibly might be bipolar based on the way he acts and some of things he says and does. Either way Meyer may be retired but he's also still employed by OSU currently and Day is a disciple of his. To think these comments won't go unnoticed in the OSU camp would be just downright naive. These comments are as foolish as Karan Higdon guaranteeing victory in the Shoe last season.
Dstacify, I agree completely, but have one addition. Not only has he not accomplished anything of significance in his four years up there, he hasn’t accomplished anything of significance as a coach period. He had one lucky year in college with a superior QB, and lost his only shot at a championship. He has accomplished nothing as a coach when compared to his peers in the coaching ranks.
Two things have defined the Harbaugh era at Michigan so far: chest-puffing and false bravado. Not two things you want defining your so-called "elite" program. And it reflects in his players as well (see Chase Winovich and Karan Higdon).
Agree, I can’t even add to your post because it says it all.
What really confuses me is how he manages to bring in good recruits. Ttun has done nothing for years and has during his term not only not won the B10 East, but has gotten spanked in their bowl games on national tv. I know they have history, good academics, and good facilities - but it is not a school I would go to if my goal was to win a championship. They haven’t done it in 20 years. Add that to their own set of controversies and craziness in the locker room and coaching staff - and why take the risk. But the media will still give them a top ten ranking.
The ability to still bring in good recruits and stay in the national headlines is what makes them one of the upper level teams. Sure as fuck not elite or on OSU level but they're still a somewhat nationally relevant program because of history and all that other bs. We always knock them down and say they are a low Tier 2 / Tier 3 team but they have too much clout to be lower than a high level Tier 2.
That said wtf was the point of Jimbo saying this in the first place? He might not be completely wrong about it but why even say it? What does he get out of it? and does he not realize this just brings more negative attention to himself. Right now would be the time to shut your damn mouth and go to work but apparently that's not the way things are done up there.
Jimbo wouldn't be saying this at all if Meyer were still the head coach at OSU currently. He's saying it because he feels he can do it "safely" and "from a distance" with no on-field repercussions to him or his program now that Meyer is retired. He 100% showed what he's all about with these comments (however true they may be to an extent) and it's nothing good.
No i agree with you 100% he did it because he knows Urbans off the sideline but it does nothing for him personally to speak ill of someone who spanked his ass. Shutup and move along. Now you just gave the current coach and team more fuel for the fodder. Like they even needed it.
The more shit talking Harbaugh and his boys do the more fuel it gives us to drop another 60 deuce on them in Ann Arbor come November so they can keep shooting off at the mouth all they want for all I care. Talking doesn't win games that matter for you and Harbaugh has yet to win a game that actually mattered since he's been in AA. The reality is if Harbaugh loses to OSU again this season he's going to have a very unhappy December and will likely be feeling the heat from all sides.
Please, please, please!
Harbaugh's a coward. He can do wrong by the blind fan base that worships him because he's a "Michigan" man, whatever the hell that means anymore.
"Because we couldn't go for three."
Between Bo and Harbaugh, I believe a Michigan Man who is someone that fails on the biggest stage and falls back on academics and integrity as an excuse for their failures.
Hard to be serious about that with the vast majority of your team has no major....general studies.
At least Bo was also a Buckeye....
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
Dasniksder, Bo Scembechler put any failures of his program on himself. He NEVER took shots at the another coach, IIRC. He might have had some issues (1973) with the B10 commissioner and conference ADs, but he didn't take potshots at coaches. Schembechler is in a different class than Harbaugh.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
Scembechler had respect for the rivalry and he coached accordingly. He hasn't made a circus out of it up north, and he handled himself well. I agree he accepted the good and the bad and he knew when he was out played and out coached and he won games that hairball is not capable of. He also had his program competing at a higher level then crazy jimmy. Crazy Jimmy is just not as good.
BIGbuckeye, thanks for the link that was a good listen. I assume the part about your drunk uncle was really about Harbaugh.
WORTH THE LISTEN 100%.
Buckeyes & Blue Jackets.
Agreed...worth the listen. For my money, he nailed it.
Yep, it was perfect.
Wish I could have seen the eye roll from Meyer when he declined to comment.. What a little bitch!!
Simply put Harbaugh in this case is the jealous girl at the prom who is upset about the prom queen (Meyer) getting all the male attention and so feels the need to spread rumors as a result (whether or true or false). Meyer is much better off enjoying his retirement and taking the high road here. He's not obligated to respond to this nonsense whatsoever.
The wedding example is perfect. Sure, you can't argue that controversy has followed Urban everywhere. Much of that controversy has been manufactured (for example, people who blame him for Aaron Hernandez being a murderer) or overblown (Zach Smith stuff where yeah, he probably should have fired him for various reasons, but he wasn't condoning/covering for his domestic violence that may or may not have even happened, by the way). But to be taking jabs at a guy who kicked your ass every year for 4 years...it's sour grapes.
And I wouldn't go there with player arrests from Urban's time at Florida...Harbaugh's time at the 49ers was much of the same. He kind of took that "NFL jailhouse" title away from the Bengals, who had had lots of guys arrested themselves prior to that time.
Class of 2010.
I’d add this piece to the wedding example to make it fit exactly.
You can stand up and say she’s a whore. It might me factually correct, but it’s wrong.
Addition: And she broke it off to you to marry this guy (Adds the sour grapes component).
Don't necessarily agree with the "manufactured" controversy simply because he surrounded himself with talented yet obviously shady characters. Mostly in the recruiting department while at Florida. Hernandez is but one of many recruits he brought in there that were committing crimes and having them hid or washed away without getting to the media for a few years. Harbaugh didn't recruit those guys nor did he sign their contracts so ya get what ya get from your management. NFL coaches don't really pick their players unless your BB.
Totally agree with the sour grapes comment though. He kicked your ass and you should be thankful he retired. well or should he with Day waiting in the wings!
Pete Thamel was brutal in that article, but
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
Also - a word of wisdom. Try not to get sucked into the comments on the YouTube clip. They'll only enrage you b/c the Weasels are out in full force and in typical high horse fashion.
From Thamel's SI piece:
Harbaugh’s defining trait so far as Michigan’s coach – generating attention.
And here I thought that Harbaugh's defining trait was losing to Urban Meyer and Ohio State.
The generating attention thing is just a facade.
The generating attention thing is just a facade mirage.
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University
If you can't generate B1G titles, then might as well generate attention. Even Bo Schembechler had a tough time trying to keep Harbaugh's mouth shut.
Harbaugh is a clown. He talks about being 2nd best in the B10 based on wins.. How on earth does he not know since he got to Michigan he's 26-9 in the B10 and Wisky is 27-8? And Northwestern is the same 26-9.
Dude can't even get stats right..
Sorry if someone else mentioned this but...,
Harbaugh says his two goals are: "Win multiple championships and run a first class program."
Urban Meyer's #1 goal was always to beat the rival. Second was to win championships and build a culture. This is why Harbaugh just doesn't seem to get it and I don't see him ever having success against OSU.
Dude can't get anything right...
Nice listen. Valenti is certainly correct. UM fans should be sick of it.
But because there isn't anything out there for a better choice, they have to pretend that they agree with Harbaugh.
Fields of Dreams
Valenti, per usual, nailed it. Go Bucks! Screw Blue!
Good Video- some items he said-
"I don't want anymore talk, I want the Walk"
"Harbaugh can't control himself"
"Harbaugh has plenty of controversy in his career"
"He can't stay in one place too long, people don't like him"
"Harbaugh 49ers lead the league in team players arrests when he coached them- 11-12 or so players were arrested"
"Dude Just ain't right"
Harbaugh is smarter than you think. He has sucked 9 million dollars a year from Michigan to lose to Urban.
And he does it well, 0-4 and looking good.
Jim Harbaugh is on the Ohio State 5 yard line in the closing seconds of a game tied 14 - 14 and prays for inspiration. He looks to the heavens and says "God what play should I call." God answers "throw a flat pass to the right". Jimmy calls the play and it is intercepted and returned all the way for a touchdown giving Ohio State the win. Jimmy once again looks to the heavens and says "God why did you call that play". God pauses and says "Hey Woody why did we call that play?"
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Archie Griffin
While on the surface, there is some validity to Harbaughs statement, a little deeper research proves his comments fault.
Has Urban always made the right decisions? No, no one has. But to act like players actions AFTER they leave his program are his fault is a farce. Couple that with the sustained arrests at UF for the last 10 years and the largely clean stint at Ohio St, he's just pissing in the air and saying it's raining. He's justifying his inability to recruit on the same level, build a team on the same level, have the same level (or even close really) team and inability to build an elite program.
Not only is Ohio St's APR better than Michigans, we also win more games, have more players drafted and have a better program for after football as whole.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
Urban has become a media target. He's the same level of 'scummy' as Harbaugh and Saban and the rest of them, he's just a bigger target. That's the honest truth. No head coach in america can baby sit 100+ student athletes AND monitor everything their assistant coaches/GA's do, it's impossible.
Hairball can't get any attention for his program, or more importantly for himself by winning the higher level games on the field, so he resorts to what he does best- antics and pot shots to get in the limelight. You should see more of his low class antics today. Maybe someone will ask him how his sleepovers are going, or how he led the league in player arrests his 1st three years in San Fran and then got chased out of town.
The glass house he lives in, is full of broken glass.
You'd think by now he'd avoid commenting on his Daddy. I'd be tired of getting my ass beat and then talking about it.
Crazy Jimmy doesn't know when to shut his mouth, especially after being owned by someone and beat into the ground. You would think with all the controversy crazy jimmy has created over the years, he would want to clean that up and push out a new impression, but he just is not a winner, and this is the only way he can get attention that he doesn't get if he would win elite games. He's a loser and losers tend to try and make themselves look better by making others look worse "in his own mind".
Badger fan/writer's take on this topic!
I'm missing the part about controversy at Bowling Green and Utah. Huh?
If I call Harbaugh a dumbass, I am doing the TTUN fanbase a service they do not deserve. Hypocrite, coward, pathetic loser, attention seeker with low self-esteem and impotent underachiever are but a few other descriptive terms I could have chosen from …
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
Either Harbaugh is actually really dumb or it is an act. Listening to him ramble incoherently every time he speaks is becoming the standard. I believe he is just a few bricks short of a load.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Both-but more importantly......
We give Harbaughs thoughts importance when we listen to them. I will ignore this sad man and his hen teeth.
It double posted -_-