Class of 2020 Recruiting News (Part 56)

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logamaniac's picture

While great it’s not even close to Ripken’s record

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Ripkins is a joke. He was playing so shitty toward the end but was in the lineup just to keep the streak alive. One of most overblown records ever..

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brutusbro's picture

Yea, especially now, when the wind is blowing just right and players have to take 3 weeks off

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logamaniac's picture

He hit 340 the season after he ended his streak (in September)

the guy played with a broken nose and a multitude of sprains etc and never missed a game.  Enjoy your opinion. 

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Nashville's picture

I respect Ripken and he deserves the record but the previous record holder had a terminal illness. Not to mention that he kept playing every day when he wasn’t chasing a record, he already had it. 

"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

No, i think .406 is a hell of a lot tougher to maintain over a whole season..

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

I'll go with 4,256 lifetime hits. 

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Give ted williams 5 seasons in thre prime of his career and see whst stats he would have put up. Best hitter ever..he serve 3 years in ww2 and another couple in Korea..

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dkbldev's picture

Missed it by one day. His streak of 56 was on July 17

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

To the whole exchange above this post 

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Brohio's picture

FWIW, DJ Uiagalelei said yesterday that Ricks was flipping to Clemson. Ricks liked the post. I don't put much stock in this so I'm not saying it's true, but it clearly shows that Ricks likes the troll game. 

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Drewbdu's picture

Yeah DJ is probably just making fun of the whole ordeal. 

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Smitty516's picture

LSU fans must be freaking out lol

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Rgeiger24's picture

It's DJ joking about the Ricks stuff. Still would 1000% dispute that Ricks is "trolling." His interactions with OSU commits and past comments clearly show interest.

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KBonay's picture

i'd like to buy a vowel

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I don’t have a vowel but I’ll sell you a small guitar-like musical instrument popular in the Hawaiian islands...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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EBBuck03's picture

If Ricks decides to leave LSU, it will be to OSU. 

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Bucks19's picture

Not so sure. LOOOOOOOOOONG way before this one is over. 

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Mastro16's picture

The DV’s suggest people think it’s impossible rocks doesn’t go to LSU or OSU, as if nothing unexpected ever happened in cfb recruiting 

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Northbrook's picture

After Big10 media days are over we need to get the intel on who will be visiting the weekend of the 27th. Mostly 2021 guys probably. I think someone mentioned that Hardy might be there and he is 2020.

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buckbuck12's picture

Ricks is visiting Bama twice. Hope they negatively recruit against LSU and make him think.

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

Bama probably gonna bust out the “Corey Raymond is leaving after this season” card. That’s apparently what got them Surtain 

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Buckeye06's picture

Would have been nice if that had happened since I believe he was going to leave LSU to come here haha

I love our coaching staff but Raymond is a star as well

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LB U's picture

Crazy to think that once August hits this class will be all but wrapped up.. the only thing that we'll have to look foward to is rise in rankings.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

You forgot to mention the 3,146 incoming Ricks threads over the next 5 months:

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Sanantonefan's picture

Not to mention the Ricks takeover of this thread even with separate Ricks threads...

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Knarcisi's picture

Well, just go head and start Elias Ricks part 1 right now ...

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BuckeyeBobcat's picture

Ricks sneezed today and it sounded like he said “osu.” 

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Sanantonefan's picture

Ricks wore a red (insert article of clothing here). Anything to that?

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Ricks sneezed today and it sounded like he said “osu.” 

To which someone politely responded, ”LSUndheit.”

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Stellar's picture

By then there will be actual football to look forward to

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

J Book just called Ricks a lock to LSU, is that a good sign for us? 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Depends on what Ricks dad said. 

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Knarcisi's picture

And where he was living when he said it. 

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Woodshed's picture

Brb, going to go to Baton Rouge to get ricks’ dad’s opinion.

-LSU mods probably

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Mastro16's picture

Oh, shoot, you know what’s even better than 45 Ricks threads?

45 threads purely anticipating the 45 succeeding Ricks threads 

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Woodshed's picture

Saw on TOS Williams set July 29th decision date but “could decide sooner”. Whatever that means.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

TOS = Buckeyeplanet or another TOS?

In any event the next 3 commits are Kourt, Jaylan, and Bijan in that order IMO 

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JacketsBuzz's picture

A thousand upvotes for ACTUAL recruiting news. I feel bad for Spooner - these threads used to be full of quality content. Now they're just watered down with 90% of the same dead horse material.

Buckeyes & Blue Jackets.

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Drewbdu's picture

There is not going to be a whole lot of news when every Ohio State target has set a commitment date and they all seem like Buckeye locks. In just two weeks there will only be two spots left in the class. I imagine there will be only four or five guys they go after hard after that. Probably Cowan, Evans, Ricks, Watts, and someone that hasn’t come into the spotlight yet. 

There is just not a whole lot that can be said about so few recruits. 

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BraxtonBarrett5's picture

I hope you realize that these threads have been like this since well before we were down to only a few targets

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DaytonBuck1980's picture

But wait, how can we take Ricks with the 25 player hard cap? ;)

Still not giving a damn for the whole state of Michigan. 

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Woodshed's picture

Let’s really dig into this.....

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buckslan's picture

It's getting to the point people are receiving DVs for merely even mentioning the R word. Jeez.

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BayArea_Buckeye's picture

reputable Texas A&M Insider CB's Bijan to the good guys......further validating the expectation of good news in a couple of weeks 

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KBonay's picture

Drumm and Buckley going down with the ship.

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buckslan's picture

The math says 2 > 1 Texas. Maybe that OSU guy with the lesser percentages needs to re-evaluate himself a little bit.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I forget who said Clint Buckley sounds like an 80’s NASCAR driver but that was an outstanding line.  

Might have been ASJ.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Yeah that was me. Straight out of Days of Thunder 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Worse all time NASCAR record by far and yes it’s his real name: Dick Trickle. WTF was his dad thinking? 

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allinosu's picture

I don't know but Harry Athole might have something to say about that. 

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Braxton2Devin's picture

I know I'm reiterating what a lot of us on this site feel, but it's just clear that Robinson is a more explosive back than Milton. Milton's 40 time sucks, and when you look at the two, Robinson just looks like more of an athlete. Strange to me that these recruiting sites that are so obsessed with 40 times don't factor that more into Milton's ranking.

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CardaleFTW's picture

Milton ran a low 4.5 at The Opening. I think the 4.76 he ran a couple of months ago was a fluke. 17 year olds aren’t properly coached on how to run the 40 yet.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Rgeiger24's picture

Milton ran a 4.6 at the opening. There were rumblings of much faster hand-timed from a few guys but once the laser times came out, he was 4.60.

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

4.6 is elite for a back his size. I could see him like a Derrick Henry type player. Big bodied, good speed. Maybe not capable of being a Zeke type elite back, but likely to be at a minimum very good. Probably a higher floor than Bijan, but lower ceiling.

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Dmac3212's picture

Yah I don't why people are hating on that. For reference leanoard Fournette ran a 4.51 at the combine (after 3 years of college). 

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logamaniac's picture

Not to mention that coming out of highschool Henry was clocked in the 4.3-4.4s.  He only got bigger and stronger and worn out at Alabama.  Not the best comp.  

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

You truly think Derrick Henry ran a 4.3 in HS, yet somehow slowed all the way down to 4.54 at his pro combine?  Like, that's seriously your stance?  Maybe, and this is a crazy theory, he actually didn't run a 4.3 in HS.  Crazy thought, so you're probably right.

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logamaniac's picture

Well he clocked 4.45 at his the opening so do I believe someone hand timed him in the 4.3s?  Of course I do.  

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OSU_Alum06's picture

Eh, this POV (one I have seen several times on here) , seems like sour grapes. I bet he’s successful at Georgia. 

I agree I will take Bijan, but let’s not pretend 3 weeks ago we weren’t amped when when we thought OSU had a chance for Milton.

OSU Fan & Alum living in SEC Country

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

People don’t care about Milton’s 40 because he’s a bruiser. His play style doesn’t demand a sub 4.5 40 to be a great player

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LB U's picture

Kourt Williams is announcing the 29th.. has this already been discussed?

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buckslan's picture

I don't think so but that's great news.

Kourt Williams on the 29th (Monday)

Jaylan Knighton on the 30th (Tue) or 31st (Wed), can't remember

Bijan Robinson on the 2nd (Friday)

Two weeks from now will be the last boomtastic week of the summer before I assume a strong chase at 1 or 2 highly ranked prospects.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

It's been discussed above but there's not been an official tweet or article confirming that date

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Yeah I'd like to know where this Kourt Williams info is coming from. Expecting it to be sooner than the 29th unless something has changed.

EBBuck03's picture

Yea I was hearing it will likely be this weekend or early next week at the latest.

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NHBuckeye's picture

From where?  Just curious.

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EBBuck03's picture

Rivals.

"The outside linebacker from Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco recently narrowed his list to Oklahoma, Ohio State, Tennessee, Texas A&M and Penn State and in the coming days he should cut it even more when he commits.

“It’s getting real close,” Williams said at the South County Passing and Lineman Tournament this past weekend. “In the next week or so is when I’m planning to commit.

“I’d say it’s the five. It’s still really the five right now and then I have to talk to some coaches some more and then it will be down to three and then down to one.”

Williams, who has had an excellent offseason, is planning to commit sometime between July 19-22."

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NHBuckeye's picture

Cool!  Thank you.

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CardaleFTW's picture

Has Nevada given the = on Bijan yet? If not, he might be a little late.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Not even needed at this point 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Bc Givler and BG have already submitted their respective CB and futurecast. On top of Blair Angulo, Biggins, and Huffman submitting their CB's. So he submitting an equal sign would mean he's really late to the party where everyone knows the outcome already. 

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BuckeyeGoneNuts's picture

CBs are never "needed".  It's nice to hear that someone that follows things thinks a player is going to the good guys, but at the end of the day CBs mean nothing.  Only the recruits opinion matters.

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Port Richey Buckeye's picture

So in a couple weeks Day can start focusing on the 21'class that currently only has an avg rating of around 98! Sick ass shit Day accomplishing already. Fuck MYTHigan.

Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

And he’s doing it with a completely retooled defensive staff that got a late jump. If OSU plays well and he can keep most of this staff together, they should kill it with the 2021 class.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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NHBuckeye's picture

Most definitely!   The old thread titles ‘The 2021 class could be greater than the 2020 class’ might be warranted.   

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schwab's picture

At what point do we tell Bob that we are already at 3/1 offense/defense commits for next year, 2021?  Seems like one we might want to sit on for as long as we can, to help the poor guy get through signing day 2020.  Just trying to think ahead for a friend of mine.  So much offense!

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allinosu's picture

BUT ...But I thought um was reeling OSU in on the recruiting trail.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Video with Ransom discussing his choice to be a Buckeye 

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KBonay's picture

Hooked you up with the embedded vid. 

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Northbrook's picture

Okay lets say we get Bijan Robinson, Jaylan Knighton & Kourt Williams. That puts us at 23. If the final number is 27 who do you want to finish this class?

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CorchUrb's picture

Another DE and a CB would be ideal 

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Txsbuckeye's picture

Is there a hard cap? Lets discuss that

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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Abuckeye15's picture

36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"

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OH2MD's picture

1. Add a Corner -- Ricks or Ringo would be ideal but they both seem to be longshots.  Maybe they circle back to Henry Gray or Ryan Watts.  Although he's not a CB, I'd love for them to find a spot for Paige.

2. Add to the D-Line -- Cowan is probably the most likely.  Since it is not a huge need for this cycle tOSU should swing for the fences (Evans, Grimes, KBJ, Hardy, etc.)

3. Work like hell to keep Knighton.  From what I've read South Florida kids are always tough to hang onto (see Jordan Battle) since it is so easy to visit local schools during the season.  BG believes Knighton will commit to tOSU but it will be a fight to hold onto him.

East Coast living with Ohio roots

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NHBuckeye's picture

To your point #3, that is exactly why i want the staff to stay close with Paige.  Should we end up losing Knighton, we can grab Paige and switch Cam Martinez over to offense.  Martinez would thrive on either side of the ball. 

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buckeyetyler's picture

Or we could try to bring in EJ Smith if we lost Knighton. (I’m hoping to see Martinez in the secondary.)

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

Also maybe there is some late developing guy somewhere that doesn’t have a great offer list/committed to a lesser program that just blows up his senior year.

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Stellar's picture

There's definitely going to be a guy like that. In fact there are going to be a many.

One of the biggest problems with the accelerated recruiting calendar is that it doesn't give teams a chance to see guys play their senior years before making a decision. Football is a developmental sport and guys can change a whole lot from 16 to 18

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Northbrook's picture

Right now who will finish the class isn't as easy to predict as what positions. As has been said new names will emerge especially and with a highly successful season those names will be for high quality recruits. I see another CB, a QB and, if room, two more DL. If they cannot get what they want from the HS seniors some of those could be by transfer but I'm not sure transfer with immediate eligibility, unless a graduate, will remain as easy.

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Buckeye06's picture

https://n.rivals.com/news/stock-report-five-prospects-who-have-surprised...

Njigba -

Recruiting: The four-star receiver has been committed to Ohio State since early November.

Overview: Cornerbacks were giving Smith-Njigba a ton of cushion during one-on-ones as they respected his speed but it didn’t matter because he continued to dominate and win reps. When corners came up to press him at the line he blew by them to make some easy catches. The Ohio State commit has great hands and route-running ability but it’s his speed and acceleration that make him a tough cover for any cornerback in the country.

Farrell’s take: I’m a big fan of Smith-Njigba and he gets overshadowed a bit by his fellow Ohio State wide receiver commitments. He’s an excellent route runner and has reliable hands and he can contort his body to make tough catches. And he’s a true deep threat for sure and has shown that. Smith-Njigba strikes fear into the hearts of defensive backs.

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Buckeye06's picture

https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-pac-12-recruiting-commits-o...

No one, except maybe Nick Saban, can claim to be on the level of Urban Meyer when it comes to recruiting but I never questioned Ryan Day’s ability to fill the big shoes left behind by Meyer and the commitment of Lathan Ransom is another example. The Rivals100 defensive back was rumored to be an Ohio State lean for awhile and finally pulled the trigger. Ransom could be a star for the Buckeyes down the road. He has the size, coverage instincts and willingness to be physical that should make him successful in Columbus. This should also help with running back Bijan Robinson, who also hails from Arizona and is the Buckeyes' top target at his position. Ohio State is now tied with Alabama for the No. 3 class in the country which is Meyer territory during his years at the helm.

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kmp10's picture

No one, except maybe Nick Saban, can claim to be on the level of Urban Meyer when it comes to recruiting...

Maybe Nick Saban? Alabama had the top ranked recruit class in America for how many years straight? Seven? Urban Meyer is one of college football's all-time great recruiters, but it's Meyer who MIGHT be able to claim that he's who is on the same level as Saban, not the other way around, because Saban is this generation's most successful recruiter... by far. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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jdecot's picture

I just re-watched the highlight film for QB Jack Miller and he has an opportunity to be a multi-year starter at OSU. My overall perception of his Junior year Hudl highlight film is that he has good pocket awareness, makes the right pass most of the time, and plays for an offensive coordinator that knows what he is doing. First, Miller seems to know when the pocket is breaking down around him, but keeps his eyes downfield and looks to pass first, while being able to scramble for 5-10 yards if no one is open or he cannot get the receiver the ball. Second, he seems to scan the field well and complete his passes most of the time, but he does seem to fall in love with the deep ball when the receiver running the quick slant or the drag route may have been the more efficient pass. Sometimes he locks onto a receiver early and does not see others receivers who may be open downfield, but most high school QBs have that learning curve. 

The one area where Jack need's to improve as far as mechanics is his release. Ideally, you want to see a QB pass the ball when it gets lined up with his ear, but he seems to release the ball when it is past his shoulder or behind his head. Finally, he plays in an offense where the coordinator takes some time to develop route combinations, blocking schemes, and spacing. This is important because you can see that Miller understands how to read different levels of routes, the defense and knows where to go with the ball. 

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Attack51's picture

Some nuggets from 247 Recruiting podcast this week (Charles Power and Greg Biggins)

After watching Fleming and Demas at The Opening, Fleming is the clear WR1 by a good margin. Demas will continue to be a 5* due to his athleticism and upside, but Fleming is obviously much more physical and a much better route runner, on top of being an elite athlete as well.

A lot of glowing reviews of Gee/JSN/Mookie/Lathan/Simon as you would expect based on their dream team selections.

They didn't give an exact date, but rankings will be released before they record their podcast next week, I would guess they record on Wednesday night. They said they basically blew their rankings up and put it back together, so there will likely be a ton of fan reaction/freaking out.

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Weave77's picture

They said they basically blew their rankings up and put it back together, so there will likely be a ton of fan reaction/freaking out.

That's interesting... looking forward to the new rankings.

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EBBuck03's picture

Yep, good find.  I can honestly say for the first time in a while with a ranking release that I don't think that many Buckeyes will drop.  I think we're going to see a lot rise.  Very good camp season for Buckeyes this year.

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'57Champs's picture

You guys heard of this Elias Ricks guy?  Birm just wrote an article about people saying he might flip to us.

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

Rivals Cane site has an article up saying that we are pushing hard for south Florida CB Jaiden Francois. Seems it’s been really quiet since he visited. Anyone see anything about this? 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Ha, sorry, I was grabbing the tweet for this while you had just posted it.  

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NHBuckeye's picture

Premium content, but this sounds very interesting on the surface.  Francois is a 4* DB commit to Miami.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per the Miami 247 board the article is about Jaiden making another visit after the dead period. Their mod also acknowledged we are emerging as a flip threat. 

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buckslan's picture

It's great to see (and totally obvious) that OSU is looking to add one more CB.

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JacksonOhio5's picture

Think I remember Birm mentioning recently that OSU was still going to pursue Francois and Ryan Watts in addition to Ricks.  Might also circle back to Luke Hill or Henry Gray near signing day since they both wanted in at one point, but would probably just bank the scholarship if it isn't Ricks, Watts, or Francois.

Go Bucks!

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PaulFinebaumIsBiased's picture

Would love to see us flip a guy committed to Oklahoma. Hafley is a much better coach and recruiter than Grinch

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

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Bucks19's picture

You weren’t saying that a year ago. Grinch was the next greatest DC at Ohio State 

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Drewbdu's picture

Yep, then we saw him coach. 

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

If Day goes 7-5 the next 3 years and is fired, all those people who are high on him right now are complete hypocrites.

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JarheadBuck's picture

I'll cheer him, support him and love him as if he was a born Buckeye. However....

If he loses more than 3 in ANY one year, or losing 3 straight times to TTUN, I'll want his head on a pike. (And I won't be lonely in that crowd.)  Five losses in a single year and he can walk home from the last game, because he don't work in C-bus any more.  Like most spoiled Buckeye fans, I ain't going back to the Cooper or Bruce "close is close enough" times without a serious fight.

Bottom line is that being the "anointed one" with zero HC experience taking over a stacked roster at one of the top 3 jobs in the sport comes with massive expectations.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

That's not what "hypocrite" means. You can be for something or someone and be proven wrong. 

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Buckpasser51's picture

So, what's your point? It's hypocritical to change your mind if you learn new facts? Dumb!

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

Quite literally the opposite. Was in reply to "Yep, then we saw him coach." You can blame 11W's posting structure where it stops indenting to show who you're replying to after a few replies.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

You can blame 11W's posting structure where it stops indenting to show who you're replying to after a few replies.

When the number of replies to a series of posts within a thread gets too long, you need to use the quotes function. Otherwise, posters would be indenting off the right edge of the screen.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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stxbuck's picture

11W posters won't own their hottakes from 18 months ago? Say it ain't so!!!!!!!!!!!!

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

BK just posted that Kourt Williams gave him a possible commitment date. Anyone with VIP have the date? 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

No commitment date yet. Just said that the 29th is the latest he will commit. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

BK said he would pick OSU as the team to get Kourt but isn’t 100 percent sure at this point. Classic Bk. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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elitesmithie's picture

Literally Anyone: "Would you say you have a hard time making decisions?"

BK: Well yes and no

On a serious note all indications appear we get him but it does seem strange no one knows an exact date for something that appears to be so close to happening. 

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Tipp2Cbus's picture

Bill Kurelic is a clown and he brings the perception of OSU recruiting insiders down. Guys like Birm and AE do this stuff for free and have actual inside information, insightful writing and respect for players.

Have we always been a dynasty ?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

You think Birmingham and Ellis (and Taylor Lehman) are doing this for free? I doubt it. While LR and 11W are free sites, do you see the ads? Someone’s making money and I doubt Jason is pocketing all of it (not to mention the revenue from merchandise sales).

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Northbrook's picture

He just means the site content is free.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

He said Birm and AE are doing it for free, not the sites providing free content; clarity can save lives.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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iowabuckeyes's picture

If I was being petty, I would’ve downvoted him (and you) and without comment. That’s pettiness. He implied they provide content for free; I clarified but I’m the villain. No good deed goes unpunished. Such is the world we live it. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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ronbizi's picture

Guy was simply paying a compliment.  You follow through with snide comments, and “clarify” for no good reason.  This isn’t about the world we live in.  You just like stroking your own ego.  And I don’t  mind the downvote.  You’re a mixed bag of providing good content while patronizing others 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Exactly who’s holier than thou, preach? It may be Sunday but I don’t need to go to church as you’ve delivered today’s lecture. Thanks for taking me to task.

FWIW, I don’t mind the DVs, either, which is why I don’t give them. I have given out three and all were fat thumbs because I promised myself when I started posting here that I wouldn’t be that petty. (I am also fairly frugal with handing out upvotes.) Instead, I choose to engage by posting and commenting when I don’t agree with someone and, yes, there are occasions when I can get a little uppity but I can assure you that posting anonymously on a sports fan site is not what I do to stroke my own ego. But thanks for judging me as if you know me.

So as not to derail this thread any further, I’ll concede the last remark to you as I’m done with this argument. It’s all yours.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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NHBuckeye's picture

Man this kid is super athletic!  If the team is still doing the dunk contest I’ll take Fleming to beat out Rashod Berry.  

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Smitty516's picture

I can’t even do this off a trampoline...sucks to be a B1G corner the next several years...

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stxbuck's picture

I know it's the trendy thing for the young uns' to compare Fleming to Michael Thomas, but dude is a lot more like Tony Gonzalez,imo. Same size, speed, and athleticism as Gonzo, who, perhaps not coincidentally, is tOSU's last 1st round WR.

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urbansjacket2's picture

Anthony Gonzalez was smaller than Fleming. Gonzo was 6'0 flat, Fleming is like 6'2.5. But I can definitely see a bit of similarity there. 

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Spartan13's picture

I have seen 0 Fleming to Thomas comparisons I think you are thinking of Gee Scott. 

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Smitty516's picture

I think Fleming is more athletic than Thomas and I don’t see them as the best comparison, BUT 247sports player comparison is Michael Thomas, so you are wrong on this...

https://247sports.com/Player/Julian-Fleming-46040058/

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Its literally his pro comparison on 247

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buckbornbred's picture

Fleming is different than any receiver we've ever had. He's faster and more athletic than all the receivers (Jenkins, Robiskie, Hartline, C. Carter, D. Carter, Posey) that are comparable in size. Fleming won't be as big as Boston, but will be faster and a much better athlete. Chris Sanders had blazing track speed, but Fleming is much more athletic and a much more natural football player.

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Smitty516's picture

Let’s give my boy David Boston the props he deserves ; ).Boston was a stud of an athlete. I’ll leave this here:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft08/columns/story?columnist=reese_floyd&id=...

That said I love Fleming and he is going to be a baller! Can’t wait. Just want to make sure Boston gets credit where it’s due...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

David Boston was a bad ass. I’ll always remember him first for his scuffle with Charles Woodson in 1997. Here’s Woodson’s take on it while he was commenting on OBJ and Josh Norman’s tussle. It’s only 57 seconds and worth the listen.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDGygWqwuE

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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The Urban Express's picture

I think the closest comparison I've seen to Fleming is Terry Glenn.  Similar body type and great body control.  They both seem to catch everything too.  Fleming is going to be a MONSTER.

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Stellar's picture

Similar body types? Terry Glenn was like 5'11 190. Flemming is already 6'2 200

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Stellar's picture

Similar body types? Terry Glenn was like 5'11 190. Flemming is already 6'2 200

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The Urban Express's picture

The internet, where people just can't help but argue with each other...

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Stellar's picture

I'm not trying to argue with you. I just don't see the comparison.

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The Urban Express's picture

Yeah, because having a "similar body type" means they have to be the exact same height and weight.  Thanks for your two cents.

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stxbuck's picture

Garrett Wilson (funny how everyone has forgotten about him while busy hyping Fleming) is the real comparison to Terry Glenn. Same size (5'11 and not thick), speed, and freakish catch radius

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minnbuck's picture

I was very surprised by this comparison until I figured out that by Tony Gonzalez, you meant Anthony Gonzalez, not, you know, Tony Gonzalez.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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CardaleFTW's picture

I hate dead periods...

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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NHBuckeye's picture

LOL at Narcos.  Awesome show.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

Who did BK Crystal ball Knighton to?

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KBonay's picture

Ohio State. 

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buckslan's picture

Awesome news. I think Knighton really wants to be a Buckeye and embraces the RB2 role. Think I read somewhere he doesn't want to be an every down back.

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Washmore24's picture

Jaheim Thomas committed to Cincinnati.

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buckslan's picture

Better than Kentucky or Michigan State

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

For all the jokes here about PSU and TTUN recruiting, they both still likely pull top 15 classes. MSU on the other hand is having a dismal year, their top recruit is something like mid 300 and looking at their 247 page they are only in the running for a few higher kids. Kids like Thomas that were second options for OSU used to be locks for them, and Dantonio has done great getting them to play well but I feel like they are in the brink of falling off hard.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see these kids stay in Ohio and make Cincy a prominent group of 5 program but a strong MSU is good for the B1G.

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

Urban always said if you get a guy to commit to you, that means you’re just his leader going forward. BK always says submitting a crystal ball means it’s 50/50. 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Since we're all bored from the dead period I'll give my comps for some of our commits:

Robinson - Saquon Barkley/taller Shady McCoy

Knighton - Curtis Samuel (4.4 version not the 4.3 version)

Gee Scott - Larry Fitzgerald

JSN - KJ Hill

Fleming - Terrell Owens/faster Cris Carter 

Mookie - shorter Christian Kirk

Royer - Nick Vannett

Kourt Williams - Darron Lee 

Phillips - Denzel Ward

Disclaimer: I'm not a professional scout 

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ronbizi's picture

Disclaimer: I'm not a professional scout 

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Kangarooman's picture

Well, if youre right, we'll win the Natty and possibly the super bowl.

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buckslan's picture

My Bijan comparison is the Northwestern RB a few years ago that ran for 1k yards every season. I think they have similar running styles.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Bijan is going to be 6-0 220 in college to me that's more Saquon bigger McCoy than anything. Justin was a good player for NW but im not seeing that comp at all IMO 

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buckslan's picture

Saquan is a special RB and he's like 235lbs. I would be shocked if Bijan ends up being 220lbs.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

He's over 200 right now and he's a special RB in his own right.  

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

No one fever seems to include a Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, incredible Bucks players 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Chris Olave is Terry Glenn. There ya go. 

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Alex Ranttila's picture

Robinson is a more athletic Leveon Bell

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

2019 nuggets here, but figured it'd be well received here due to premium content. From Rivals:

Jonah Jackson is even better than advertised, an absolute stud, and will be our best interior lineman this year. Bowen/NPF at left tackle, Jackson left guard, Myers center, Davis right guard. Alabi and Jones currently in dog house for violation of team rules, but shouldn't be anything serious.

McCall has added weight and this could be his breakout year.

Mack and Fields already have great chemistry and Mack looking poised for a big year.

Olave has the potential to be great and the rest of the nation will know his name by year's end.

Wilson is a super freak. "Enjoy him while he's here"

Borland is noticeably quicker this year and is embarrassed by his play last year. Looking forward to leading the defense.

Freshmen group is "cockier" than most. Remains to be seen if that's good or bad.

Team atmosphere definitely different than under Urban. It's either "confident or relaxed".

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

Thanks for the assist, a buddy sent me screenshots so I didn't have the link.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Really think NPF will start at the open tackle spot 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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buckslan's picture

But I was told Borland was too slow and that he should not start. What gives? Did he do the impossible and improve during the off season/get healthier? Blasphemy.

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Stellar's picture

A couple questions:

How can they know that Jackson is better than advertised when he hasn't even practiced yet?

Also I assume that was supposed to say Bowen/NPF at Right Tackle? Left Tackle is Munford's job.

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Belliott's picture

You really think they’re not practicing? It’s not technically organized, but if you think they’re not doing a lot of this on their own, I have some swampland in Florida I can sell you at a good price. 

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GulfCoastBuck's picture

Anywhere specific, there’s a lot of swampland in Florida

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Stellar's picture

I mean obviously the players practice on their own, especially passing drills and such. But it's really hard to judge an interior linemen until the pads go on and there's actual hitting

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Disappointing to hear about Jones and alabi especially how Alabi stepped up last year. Hopefully they step up. Other wise great news! Go bucks!!

Go Bucks!

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Mack bonding with Fields is not the given that it sounds like. It wouldn't have been shocking for Fields to bond with the younger guys coming in/emerging at the same time. Austin is an impressive kid; he'll go places off the football field. 

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

I'm all for Wyatt Davis, NPF, and Bowen splitting time nearly equally at the 2 right spots. We've never seen it at OSU, at least under Urban, but I've seen that elsewhere. At least at MSU I remember that.

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Northbrook's picture

I'm hoping Bowen gets enough playing time to be drafted.

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Stellar's picture

I'm wondering if Bowen has an extra year. He seems like a strong candidate for a medical red shirt

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Northbrook's picture

Maybe so but I think he has a wife and kid so he may want to go make the money.

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seltsaC's picture

This team is absolutely loaded at every position as long as the coaches play the right players at the LB spots, IMO I think this team is more than capable of winning a natty but Clemson and Bama are crazy good too of course. Still don't believe for a second Borland & Werner are the best players at their respective positions personally.

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550I Buckeye's picture

"But they come from great families...."

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The Urban Express's picture

I think Borland is going to have a great year.  He's got great LB instincts, but the scheme and the coaching last year were just awful.  When you see the lack of development across the board for all of the LBs, you can see exactly what the problem was.  I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with Dill Bavis.

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seltsaC's picture

He's unbelievably slow and doesn't offer nearly as much upside as someone like Mitchell. The scheme has nothing to do with his lack of raw athletic ability.

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stxbuck's picture

Achilles injuries slow people down. Anatomical reality.

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Sanitarian2's picture

Bowen/NPF at left tackle, I hope you meant RT or is Munford's injury much worse than previously thought? or if NPF so athletic that Munford is moving to RT?

Sani

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urbansjacket2's picture

He meant RT--Munford locked at LT. I'm just glad Davis has seemingly close to locked up RG. He's clearly one of 5 best IMO

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

NPF RT

Davis RG

Myers C

Jackson LG

Munford LT

Bowen a swing, Miller the number two center, Alabi back up for Munford. Wray another solid backup 

IMO the o line this year is going to be much better with leverage and quickness. Not the mass of last year but seems to be a group that is athletic. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

Will be much better in run blocking. Jackson, Myers, and Davis are all pure run blockers, and should get some major push. Munford is really good at pass, but RT is the question. Hopefully it will be NPF. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Matt Jones or Dawand Jones in the dog house? 

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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937Buck's picture

I’m assuming Matt Jones. 

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Sims_tOSU's picture

Guys please create your own thread... this is for recruiting not debating starting tackle 

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CardaleFTW's picture

It’s a dead period. What else do you want to talk about?

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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buckeyefutbol's picture

The 2020 recruiting thread is not the only place to talk about the 2019 football team on this website. It’d be just as easy to start another thread talking about this or, better yet, on the article that was written on the o-line a few days ago.

I once played touch football and scored a touchdown

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HINYG8's picture

Talk about it, just not in a recruiting thread

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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Brohio's picture

It’s not what you’re talking about. It’s where you’re talking about it 

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FTWinfrey08's picture

I'm ready for this Kourt Williams BOOM!

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elitesmithie's picture

When is that supposed to occur?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Kourt Williams - before 7/29

Knighton - 7/30

Robinson - 8/2

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Buckeye314's picture

Spooner, how about adding commitment dates to the big board in OP? Saves searching and reposting. 

Ohio State > *ichigan
Urban > Hairbaugh

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Cincybuckeye's picture

Mike Roach finally concedes a CB for Bijan to the good guys. It's over, boys

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Independence Village 22's picture

And with that one, the dust has settled....

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

R guys, Clint Buckley seems like the most plugged in source here... /s 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Haha!  You beat me by 10 seconds.  LOL 

Fields of Dreams

 

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

I love how much of a meme he is. How the heck does he get CB privileges? Haha  

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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Smitty516's picture

Who is Mike Roach? Sounds like a guy pretending to play recruiting analysts. Cute

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NHBuckeye's picture

I won’t feel comfortable until I see Clint Buckley change his pick to Ohio State.

 /s

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Seems like just yesterday (June 24th) when any talk of Robinson to Ohio State was purely “rumors and innuendo.”

RaleighBuckeye's picture

 Come on AE you have to zing Roach, at a minimum. Use his own message in reverse, something, anything lol 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Nah it’s cool. I think the other Texas sites were pretty confident around then as well. Though I don’t recall them saying anything crazy really. 

actionstanleyjackson's picture

No really you need to clap back 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

It’s still dead period phase, we want his head, humiliation, something, anything, lol. Just kidding, how about no comments but a gif post of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors album, no words but still says it all? 

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

You know it’s the dead period in July when the recruiting forum turns into us peer pressuring AE.. and I’m totally okay with that Hahahaha. 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Andrew, check out Greg Pickel@pennlive.com, yesterday, talks about Penn State thinks they can sign 30 recruits, I’ve come across articles in the past that were pretty good, by this guy, in your profession, resources/contacts are always useful 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Thanks. I’ll definitely check it out. Seems like no one has a definitive answer on the 25+ debate. 

buddyguy's picture

Andrew, I've posted about this multiple times.  Yes, teams can sign more than 25 by back counting early enrollees if there is room in the previous year's 25.  There's no debate about this, it's clearly written into the NCAA bylaws.  I understand there are some prominent recruiting analysts who've been confused about this but all they have to do is read the bylaws.  The language was changed in 2017 to limit oversigning but back counting is still allowed.  Teams can and have been exceeding 25 since then.

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Drewbdu's picture

I think all of the analysts understand this. The speculation is regarding potential rule changes coming this year that could create a 25 player hard cap by eliminating loopholes like the early-enrollee one. 

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Anglefan's picture

You're getting downvoted, but it seems as though you're exactly correct. It seems like just a lot of confusion, however no actual rule change from what it's been in previous years. 

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Triv's picture

 understand there are some prominent recruiting analysts who've been confused about this but all they have to do is read the bylaws. 

If this is your take, you don't pay much attention to those analysts posts about the topic.

You have posted about it multiple times, but you haven't done much reading in the threads it gets mentioned in. It's WIDELY been reported that the NCAA is considering implementing a 25 player hard cap, no early enrollee loop hole. It's been discussed as potentially being implemented as early as the 2020 class, though as time passes that appears less and less likely for 2020 at least. It's a well known fact among all recruiting analysts that this is a distinct possibility though, so to say "there's no debate about this" is patently false.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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buddyguy's picture

It's been WIDELY and INCORRECTLY reported that the NCAA was considering a new 25 player hard cap for the 2020 class.  The "new" 25 player hard cap was actually passed in 2017.  People misunderstood it then and many still misunderstand it today.  Several OSU recruiting analysts "heard" that OSU was capped at 25 this year and ran with the story that a 25 hard cap was in place for the 2020 class.  They were wrong.

If you've noticed, some of them are now changing their story saying "sources" are now telling them OSU may go beyond 25 after all.  But OSU (and other FBS schools) have been able to go beyond 25 in the 2020 class all along, which is what I've been saying for some time now.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Yes, I know you’ve posted about it many times and I’ve read about it many times. If there are people at programs across the country (not just recruiting analysts) who remain uncertain on the number (even with the loopholes) then I think it’s something worth wondering about. 

The Urban Express's picture

I know we aren't going down this road again, because this dead horse has been beaten so many times we can't even recognize the corpse, but I just can't grasp how a team could consistently fill their 85 man roster with a 25 player hard cap each year.  High level teams with a lot of transfers and early NFL entrants would be 3-4 years away from fielding 75 scholarship players if they couldn't use the loopholes to go above 25 with EEs.  I know the NCAA has done some dumb stuff in the past, but the math doesn't really work out.  Sorry, moving on...

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Drewbdu's picture

I think a good move would simply be to move to a 28 player cap and remove every loophole to get around the cap. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

OSU has signed 115 players over the past 5 years. This means the Buckeyes have left 10 scholarships unused over 5 classes and they have as many players going pro as any other school. I don't think a 25-man hard cap is coming this season but it also shouldn't be an issue.

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CardaleFTW's picture

Never Forget.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Ok cool.  Hook ‘em, Mike. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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UpperBuckeye's picture

AE

Thanks Mike you amused us Buckeye fans!
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Kangarooman's picture

Random thought: i dont think it's crazy to think that all 4 of the starting secondary could be gone after this year. (Okudah, White, Wade, and Fuller.) If we dont get a top DE, I really think Paige should be a take. Keeping him away from Michigan would be a double win.

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buckslan's picture

Arnette will be the starter over Wade if you are referring to the other corner position. Wade is probably going to be a hybrid slot corner/safety in the defense. There will be a lot of 4-2-5 bullet look so all 5 of them will be on the field together regardless.

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tussey's picture

You are also forgetting about Damon Arnette graduating. So that would be potentially 5...

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Kangarooman's picture

Yes, you and Buckslan are correct. Arnette would make 5. All of them could get drafted, too. Wild.

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Bucksknowwhatitis's picture

DBU.. what else do you expect?

The Future is Bright at Ohio State

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Hanawi_'s picture

I would prefer another pure corner in the class. And it seems the staff does as well. I think Paige's chances left when Ransom committed.

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1983Buckeye's picture

Ready to get Williams and the running backs committed and see who else we will take.. Hopefully Evans and Ricks, . I to wish we could take Paige.  Good tape and to keep him away from ttun

Go Bucks

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buckbuck12's picture

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/... ESPN drops the worst player ratings. Jack Miller is #18QB and Gee Scott is #33 WR.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Scott will probably end up closer to #33, overall, in the 247 Composite. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I don't think the composite has reflected ESPN's ranking update yet but Gee won't be ranked close to 33rd in the composite if ESPN has him 200th. I expected 247 to bump him somewhere between 25-40 though.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

They don’t even have Ohio State as a school Robinson Is considering. 

Espn recruiting is utterly pointless. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Triv's picture

Espn recruiting is utterly pointless.

Fairly certain 247 doesn't even use them in their composite formula

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Stellar's picture

I think they so. Since 247 bought Scout, them, Rivals, and ESPN are the only ranking services left

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CardaleFTW's picture

There really needs to be a composite between just 247 and Rivals. 

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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urbansjacket2's picture

247 should just pull them off the composite at this point. They employ like 5 evaluators total i think...not to give ESECPN a semi-pass, but they can't do their job appropriately so just stop the charade.

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Dmac3212's picture

Grant toutant is higher ranked than Jack Miller. I love ESPN rankings. 

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

There is no way that there a 33 better receivers than Scott. Espn rankings should be shunned.

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

Did ESPN just release a new ranking or have those guys been ranked there? 

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TheBadOwl's picture

I mean, we can complain about where Miller and Scott are rated (Scott at 33 in his position is the more egregious of the two) but can we talk about how far off the other guys they are on DJ Uiagalelei? 

Site Overall Rank
Rivals 1
247 3
ESPN 48

247 and Rivals are coming around on Gee Scott, but everyone's had Uiagalelei in the top three for the entire cycle. That's an even bigger indictment on ESPN's ratings imo.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Hanawi_'s picture

Honestly I think they sometimes rank guys in places just to be different. The loss of Scout in the recruiting landscape also may make ESPN look like more of an outlier. Both Rivals and 247 have huge SE slants to their analysts especially the guys that own the sites. Scout used to be the most balanced.

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buckbuck12's picture

Also Royer and Martinez were bumped to 4*.

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EBBuck03's picture

Paris Johnson as the 3rd best OT is the funniest thing I've ever read.  He's widely considered to be the best OT to come out of the midwest in well over a decade.

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Northbrook's picture

Why even give ESPN any clicks?

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tajikey's picture

I clicked, then immediately proceeded to sanitize my hands.

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Buckeye314's picture

I agree. ESPN hasn’t even had the American flag flying at HQ the last two times I’ve been in the area. 

Ignore the commies!

Ohio State > *ichigan
Urban > Hairbaugh

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Buckeye06's picture

Can someone explain 247 team rankings to me as of now.  LSU and OSU have the same # of commits (21) and LSU has a higher per player average.  Realistically, if they are saying LSU has better players and the same number, how can OSU be ahead in the team race?

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buckbuck12's picture

It's cause the rankings are based on Player weight. For example we have 8 players in top 100 and LSU has 5 in the top 100.

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Buckeye06's picture

Right, but wouldn't the average per player take that into account realistically?  You are saying OSU has better top level talent but LSU has overall more talent based on player average.

I know what you are saying as I have looked at the calculator before, but I would think this is a flaw in it

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Drewbdu's picture

Around 80% of the ranking is just the top 15 players in the class. The thought process is, only those players will likely see the field, so they’re the most important to the class. Ohio State has better players at the top than LSU and worse players at the bottom, but because the top players are weighted higher than the worst players, Ohio State has an overall better class. 

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bd2999's picture

I need to look at it again but most of the ranking is based on the top however many players. So the three star guys are largely cut out. It is a weighted sort of thing that gives more value to higher rankings than the others.

If the player average is the total average of all the players than having three star guys at any number will drag the average down more.

It would be the difference between using a true average and a weighted average. So, OSU would be rewarded for having their higher guys ranked higher than LSU.

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urbansjacket2's picture

They also essentially weight the top 20 guys, so discarding our Seibert kicker spot has us tied. They essentially shouldnt even track kickers and punters towards the rating if they arent going to rate them in the same way as the rest of the positions--which this top 20 system effectively does. 

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

The player average considers every player equally. The total ranking puts far more weight towards the top players in the class, so top heavy classes will rank higher. Also 247 ludicrously is ranking Seibert which basically dropped us nearly a full point in the player average ranking. If you take him out, Ohio State would have 1 less commit than LSU and rank higher in both player average and total points 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Following what seems like a familiar pattern, Birm releases his Birminology interview with Kourt Williams:

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/ohio-state-bucke...

So going off past precedence I feel confident in saying Birm likely has all the info on date/time/official choice and has probably even seen the commitment video if there is one. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Exactly. My guess is Birm and company have done the graphic and have the first interview with Kourt after commit goes public already done. 

My guess is kourt committed long ago to OSU and then Carpenter’s ill timed tweet made him push it back to create some suspension.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Brohio's picture

One day I would love to know how the Birm/11W relationship soured, until then I guess I'll just continue to wade through links to LR, Land of 10, The Athletic, or wherever else Birm decides to write for the whole recruiting cycle. 

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

What makes you think it soured? Birm left 11W for a bigger paycheck at Land of 10.

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BIGTIMEBUCKS's picture

He left for The Athletic.

"The Edge is where average stops and elite begins"

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

I believe he left Land of 10 for The Athletic.

Here's Birm on his departure from LO10

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Daniel's picture

I may be wrong, but I thought Birm leaving 11W was a totally a money situation.  I think he just got a great offer he couldn't refuse.  I don't think the relationship soured.  I could be wrong though.

Va Buck

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Sanantonefan's picture

He did, but that site (Land of 10) folded. Not sure what he gets at Letterman Row (and it's none of my business). I'm relatively sure he gets paid though.

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Triv's picture

Fairly certain he started Letterman Row actually, so he probably makes a decent living since the site appears to be doing pretty well

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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urbansjacket2's picture

Him + Austin + Investors and some of the lettermen I believe founded it. They're in process of adding staff (Spencer) not subtracting staff, so fair to assume they are doing just fine. 

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Northbrook's picture

Tim May is contributing now too

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Kangarooman's picture

BIRM IF YOU'RE READING THIS PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE

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NHBuckeye's picture

And can I have some?

Fields of Dreams

 

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Daniel's picture

Maybe report it to us in a recruiting style video.

Va Buck

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Wolfpac's picture

Tom Luginbill from ESPN implying on twitter that he "know[s] things" about Jack Miller that justify his low ranking, and that it is not about his "physical tools."

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Spartan13's picture

As much as we want to bash him for saying this about a teen going to our favorite school I would really like to know what this is about

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Northbrook's picture

It's about Luginbill being a twat.

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EBBuck03's picture

The guy seriously acts like a teenager with some of these responses.

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Rgeiger24's picture

LOL at ESPN implying that they are heavily weighting some sort of mental/character issues in their recruiting database while having Zach Evans at #1 overall...

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Kangarooman's picture

Maybe he's implying injury concerns? Kind of a dick move, still, but the only thing that makes sense to me. Doubt he'd be this cryptic over some sort of character issue.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I mean his reply to the first tweet is literally that it has nothing to do with him being injured. So that doesn't seem to be it. The only two things I can imagine are he either thinks he has character issues or a poor feel/head for the game despite his physical tools.

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

So only ESPN knows these things?  I'm calling BS on that.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Luginbill is full of shit 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Ludwig Yards's picture

Don't trust anyone who says "trust me". 

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

I think he means Miller doesn’t have good intangibles and isn’t smart with the football. But I don’t know how you come to that conclusion when seeing what Miller did last fall. I would be very surprised if he has a Personality problem.

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Rgeiger24's picture

This would be relatively far-fetched and pretty strange, but I won't put anything past these guys so here goes anyways. Jack Miller's dad is actively very, very right-wing on Twitter. Could/should be unrelated, but we have seen the stuff said about Bosa pre-draft with similar interaction although I have not seen anything that Jack himself has done (haven't looked beyond very, very surface)

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Unfortunately in the hyperpoliticisized world today you are probably spot on. Definitely wouldn't be the first time something like that colored their analysis.

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The Urban Express's picture

I bet Stephen A Smith told Luginbill that Jack Miller struggles to hit a curveball.

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tajikey's picture

Or believes that Miller is better at running than throwing.

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NHBuckeye's picture

What a shitty thing to say.  He needs to explain exactly what he is implying here.  

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HINYG8's picture

I buy 0% of Tom's innuendo.

And they dropped Gee too. We can quibble over Jack Miller but there is no reasoning for Gee Scott's ESPN ranking..and it alone proves they should either stop 'reporting' on recruiting all together or make a massive investment in order to make it credible/respectable.

Its a joke as is.

And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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Triv's picture

ESPN has largely ignored the west coast outside of USC for the better part of 2 decades. There's a reason nearly all of the west coast players are severely under ranked, and it's not because ESPN analysts "know things" (they have like 4 guys to cover their entire recruiting section of the site)

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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OHMatt's picture

SECspn weak attempt to flip some of our receivers.  Fleming, Scott, Smith-Njigba, Cooper.

Lugin-schill "We know certain things;"  So do I; this is just a negative recruiting tactic. ESPN and the SEC are in a multi-decade deep business relationship.  The better the SEC does, the more teams they can get in the playoff, the more money ESPN makes.  Since ESPN is able to influence player composites; if that can sway a player by casting doubt on our QB = ESPN money.

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CincyOSU's picture

SECspn weak attempt to flip some of our receivers.  Fleming, Scott, Smith-Njigba, Cooper.

Since ESPN is able to influence player composites; if that can sway a player by casting doubt on our QB = ESPN money.

 
I mean, really? Now ESPN is trying to destroy OSU by making our WR recruits think that our QB sucks? Just when I think it can't get any more absurd...

Also, ESPN makes GOBS of money off of OSU. OSU is a cash cow for ESPN, even if the vocal fringe in our fanbase doesn't want to believe it.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Good thing this part is over the limit.  An ESPN-hates-tOSU debate, spearheaded by CincyOSU, has no place in the recruiting thread.

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CincyOSU's picture

I’m sorry, I don’t recall being the one who brought this up in the first place. 

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OHMatt's picture

Too many energy drinks Monday.  I'll go back to mumbling to myself and lurking.. :-)

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tajikey's picture

To play devil's advocate, I don't think it's in ESPN's best interest to have two or more SEC teams in the Playoffs and/or National Championship, as it severely limits their potential viewing audience.

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keith7456's picture

All I see here is.

I'M SMARTER THAN ALL OF YOU COMBINED!
--- Tom Luginbill

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buckbuck12's picture

These rankings are clearly SEC biased, but as I always look at these ESPN rankings is if a player is in thier 300 range is a pretty good one. Their arrangement of those player is pretty wack.

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Rgeiger24's picture

This clown is also still out here defending Gee Scott as WR 33 after running the same laser time as Kendall Milton at the event the HE covered while leading the event in catches (I believe, with 22) and another site calling him a top 3 WR there.

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buckbuck12's picture

Other news, Kelee Ringo is visiting UGA this weekend, also could commit there.

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Day_Man's picture

our guy Clint Buckley changed his Robinson CB to OSU. Can't wait

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NHBuckeye's picture

Well there it is....     Boom! 

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Buckeye Payne's picture

Isn’t Luginbill the only recruiting person ESPN has? If so, how the hell does the ESPN300 even still exist?

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buckbuck12's picture

I think there is another Tom lmao

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

They have Tom VanHaaren, but I don’t know how involved he is.

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WoullyBear's picture

I believe Van Haaren was a one time TTUN insider, so I'm sure his input really helped out our recruits.

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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Ahh Saturday's picture

If Luginbill “knows something” and chooses to leak it in this manner, he is a sleaze bag. If he does not know something and  is maliciously smearing Miller, I think a case could be made for libel.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

He's allowed to have an opinion on the player. I would not call a vague tweet "maliciously smearing" Miller and there is nothing close to a libel case here.

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Weave77's picture
Alright, Spooner...

for part 57!

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Independence Village 22's picture

Is he possibly putting him in the Sams category? If so I would expect a rebuttal from someone. I completely felt like he might be saying Miller has a lil more sugar in his tank, so we adjusted his ranking accordingly.

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Nashville's picture

God I hope you don’t mean what I think this means.

It’s 2019, nobody should care and damn few do. 

"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."

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