Justin Fields is tied for 3rd right now to win Heisman at 10/1.
Interesting in that Jake Fromm is 20/1. is JK 60/1.
Not surprised. I've never been impressed by Fromm while OSU has a recent history of producing high level QB play:
JT Barrett (Freshman+Senior year)
So It's only fair to assume that OSU will maximize the talent of Justin Fields with Day, Yurkich, and Wilson calling the shots. And JK isn't winning it, so 60/1 are solid odds for him
"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin
If it were 5 years ago, I'd be all over those JK odds, but it's rare now that a RB gets any kind of press. I mean have you seen the numbers Jonathan Taylor has put up for Wisconsin? That's right, you probably haven't because he is a running back. He ran for 2200 yards, Yes 2200 yards, in 13 games, and didn't even get a peep of notice by the CFB media. Yeah they talk about him from time to time, but the dude should be in GOAT conversations. But, they'd rather talk about Jalen Hurts, who THREW for less yards than Taylor RAN for.
Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win.
Fields hands down. The qb situation behind him is probably still good enough to game manage against most of the big ten but they aren't winning championships without Fields. Wesson will be a solid player and his experience will be needed but the new talent coming on should be just as important if not more.
Fields can't be limited by foul trouble, and I'll just stop there.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
If Wesson and Fields are both out, I have more confidence in the team around fields for a higher winning percentage but no NC.
I went with Wesson. With all the young talent coming in, the basketbucks need a steady presence, and I have my doubts that they can be much better without him (maybe just a little) than they were last season (which was pretty terrible). With him, they finish near the top of the Big Ten in the regular season, make some noise in that tourney, and then likely win a couple games in the NCAA. Without him, they'd be lucky to finish at .500 in the Big Ten, and then exit early from the NIT.
In football, 0 to 2 regular season losses are what i'd expect with Fields playing. Without him, they would likely lose 2 to 4.
I guess it comes down to a matter of perspective. With the expectations we all have for the football team, a difference of 2 games seems like the difference between success and utter failure. In basketball, where we don't have those same expectations, a swing of 6 or 7 wins on a season not even three times as long does feel so disastrous, especially if it could be attributed to the absence of the team's best player.
More like "Over-Analyticalguy" Am I right?
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It was really close but, ...... 97.9% Fields and Football.
Quarterback > Bball Center
Well Wesson could theoretically miss half the regular season and the team could be fine come tourney time. Losing Fields for a quarter could be devastating to the entire season. I think we could find a way to win 10+ games without Fields, but no chance at a title (Somewhere the year 2014 is laughing at me).
All comes down to expectations. I feel like OSU is a legit title contender with Fields, and not without him. The basketbucks, imo, are really, at most, a fringe contender with Wesson, and not without him.
My thoughts exactly.
Fields is the difference between "national title caliber team" and "wait, what bowl do you go to if you're 8-4? it's been so long, I honestly can't remember".
Wesson? The expectations of the team are pretty much "make the tourney, at least be competitive in Round 1" and heck, last year's (overall less talented team) did that even though Wesson was suspended for a couple games and was in foul trouble a lot.
Wesson, Top 15 player nationally, is a better player right now than the completely unproven Fields...but the sport and team expectations just give the basketbucks a lot more float room than the footballers.
How did the team play last year when Wesson was suspended, I don't recall them being fine.
Well Fields duh.
Wesson. You really can't say Fields because he still hasn't even proven himself at the college level yet. We all know our team is trash without Wesson.