I can't help but cheer for Burrow. I mean really, I can't help but cheer for LSU. I like Coach O. Obviously I don't show them or have any "fandom" for them but I'm definitely not upset when they win (against anyone other than Ohio St). Not to mention their brand of defense is generally pretty fantastic.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
Currently Joe is my fav college QB, Go Joe! Beat Bama!
Great article, thanks for sharing! Hoping Jeaux has a great year for LSU. And kick the shit out of 'Bama.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
LSU should probably focus more on actually scoring a touchdown versus Alabama before worrying about winning the game. I think Joe will have a very good season, but LSU hasn’t beaten Alabama since 2011 for a reason.
The article itself is a very good one. I’d love to have a few beers with Joe.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
LSU plays @Texas on September 7, which is an interesting matchup for any college football fan, but adds an extra layer of intrigue for Buckeye fans considering that it was Texas coach Tom Herman who scouted and recruited Joe Burrow to Ohio State.
How cool would it be to see Burrow beat Herman and Saban in the same season?
Thats must-watch football right there...
Cheer for Texas (a team i really hate) or an sec (conference i really hate) team?
Damn it feels good to be a Buckeye
Let Joe be the tiebreaker.
Let's Go Bucks
Even cooler, if he then went on to lose to Day.
Good Article- Hope Jeaux continues to do well.
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
Joe has made the most of his opportunity at LSU. His teammates and the fans seem to love him, and he seems to appreciate the moment.
My unexpected turn as an LSU fan will last one more year before I cease to care at all about them.
It's pretty hard to not root for Joe. However I cannot root for LSU given the fact that they could lose 2 games and not win the SEC and they would be promoted for the CFP over one loss Big10 champ OSU by Herbstreit and the other "objective" analysts at espn.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
That is why the Grinder calls it the CFI...college football invitational.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Fun fact: If (pause, for effect) Joe B leads LSU to road victories against Texas and Bama (and wins before, between, and after), then I'd expect he's in the Heisman discussion.
And maybe a postseason date against a team we know (since I'm waxing hypothetically)?
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
If burrow is in the heisman talk college football is deep trouble. Statistically, Burrow was one of the worst QB in what our fans call an overrated conference. He did most of damage ina couple games. I have no ill will towards him. However he is not even remotely close to a heisman candidate. If LSU beats those teams and Burrow goes for 3 scores in each game different story. Statistically Burrow is never gonna put up numbers
He had a really good bowl game. But I think if people here reviewed Burrow on a game-by-game basis in 2018 and then did the same thing with J.T. Barrett's 2017 campaign, they might be surprised by who had the better season.
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I don't even think it's all that close honestly. Barrett 2017 was light years better than Burrow 2018 in literally every single aspect of being a QB. Burrow's 2018 season was more on par with JT 2016, and his performance against top 25 defenses look real similar to the 2016 Clemson debacle.
At this point in Burrow's career, JT Barrett is a VASTLY better QB
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Basing this off of numbers I'm assuming?
The Ohio State passing offense is WAY more QB friendly than that LSU offense was. You can't really make a comparison statistically between the two.
When there's literally not one single stat that favors Barrett (Comp %, Y/A, TD/INT ratio, etc.) you can't blame it on the offense. Barrett's 2018 season was a better display of QB play than Burrow's 2017 by a wide margin. A passer-friendly offense should favor Barrett in certain stats, but when it's every single stat it tells you something about the level of play between the two.
Burrow was at best a mediocre QB last year. I'd love to see him succeed, but he's going to need to take a major step forward for that to happen.
Although he had three years at TOSU, Joe did not have a great deal of time to practice with the team/LSU before the season started at LSU. Having a year in the program now and an offense more friendly to his skill set might be a big help to him. Game experience is a big plus as well. Not trying to take away anything from JT Barrett, as I am a big fan of JT III. But we should see a lot better Joe this year than last.
Yeah, that's why they aren't talking about going back and giving the Heisman from last year. The poster is saying if LSU is in the playoff picture this year, theoretically Joe will be having a good year, and thus will get consideration. Wins over Texas, Florida, Auburn and Bama? Not crazy to think he'll be in the discussion. (Also not likely, but it's the offseason and we're all playing the what-if game.)
I agree hypothetically if LSU beats those teams burrow will have to play a part. That said it will be LSU defense that wins those games. Burrow hasn’t not shown the ability to carry a team offensively, let alone have multiple big games against elite teams. I think at best people should accept Craig Krenzel (my favorite OSU QB) more than a heisman contender. Do just enough to win and not screw it up. To think he is going to go out and throw 3 tds and 300 against good teams consistently is seeing through scarlet lenses( even though he plays for LSU?). He has not shown that ability. To be a heisman talking point that’s what you gotta do. The 4 scores and 400 yards against Tulane don’t matter. I think LSU has a shot at a very good year. I just don’t think it’s because Burrow turns into Haskins. It will because they run the ball and play defense. Burrow will be sprinkled in a little bit but not featured. In my opinion he is a middle of the pack SEC QB at best. He will not make all SEC let alone heisman
Right now Jalen Hurts has the third-best odds of winning the Heisman according to Vegas. Last time he played a whole season, he completed 60% of his passes, averaged 149 yds passing a game and threw for 17 TDs. That tells me 2 things: guys are expected to improve each season in college (yeah, i know, Oklahoma. Whatever.) and that smart money bets on QBs for teams that have a chance to win many games. It's become almost the definition of the award. If LSU is in the playoffs, JB is in the top-10 voting.
What if he's averaging 180 yards passing a game with 5 TD's in six games?
Don’t think he’s gonna be in heisman talk then do you
If LSU has developed the offense, Joe is going to have a great year. They were not really ready for a great QB last season.
"great year... great QB..?" come on man!
Agreed. Their offense last year was not designed to be QB friendly. Sometimes there were only 2 receivers out in routes leading to Burrow having to scramble or throw it away. With their new coaching hire implementing the Saints offense, I expect we'll see much better numbers for Burrow this year.
Make Buckeye Nation proud, Joe. I’m rooting for him to take down Texas and Alabama.
Fields of Dreams
Last year, Joe did a really good job at LSU., considering the challenges.
—He didn’t get started in their system until summer.
—Their offensive system was terrible. Reminded me of a Jim Bollman offense. Disjointed. No identity.
—They could not pass block at all. Sometimes they had to leave NINE guys in to block. Atrocious. Joe hardly had time to throw.
Hopefully, they addressed these issues in the offseason and Joe gets a better shot at a higher level of success.
You win with people.
And so forth...
9 Units Strong!
It was such a cool moment last year when they showed the Auburn/ LSU game on the big screen in AT&T Stadium before the TCU game. When LSU won that game and the OSU fans erupted in cheers because of our guy Joe Burrow, it was amazing. That’s what it means to be a Buckeye. I have to root for Burrow and the LSU Tigers because I’m cheering on one of our own. Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye.
Bingo. Pulling for him big time. He's a good dude who works hard.
I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.
I Believe In Ohio State.
I think people like saying "Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye" because it sounds so quaint. But people absolutely do not mean it. If LSU plays and beats us, you'll be like "YAY, a Buckeye beat us!"? Cause I wouldn't. Is Martell still a buckeye after badmouthing us?
Once you leave, you leave. Good luck out there but I'm not wishing the guys do great.
I bleed scarlet...literally
Come on man that’s BS. You can’t use the argument that we would be happy if LSU beat us because Burrow was the QB. No shit we wouldn’t be happy if we lost to LSU regardless of who was the QB. Nobody is saying that. But I have and will continue to root for Burrow and LSU as long as it doesn’t negatively affect the Buckeyes. As far as Martell, I’m not sure his badmouthing was anything more than just him trying to get his transfer waiver. Martell saw the writing on the wall, and yes I will be rooting for Martell to be successful. The guy came and gave his best to this program for 2 years and deserves our respect. I’m going to be at the Florida/ Miami game this year in Orlando and will be rooting for the Canes because of Martell. Another former Buckeye is in that game as well, Trevon Grimes. I want to see him be successful even though he wasn’t even here for a year. Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye may not mean anything to you, but it does to me and thousands of other Buckeye fans around the world.
This is just disingenuous! It's so easy to say this but how many times have you seen the same guy say once a buckeye always a buckeye bash a guy once he has a bad game, or says something they don't like?
A Buckeye isn't someone who just came here, its someone who STAYS here. If you went your entire schooling at Ohio State, but then graduated from Miami, Oh, your degree says Miami, not Ohio State. That's my mindset.
Oh, your degree says Miami, not Ohio State
You know Joe Burrow has his bachelor's degree from Ohio State... right? He's quite literally an OSU graduate
Burrow did graduate from Ohio State. His degree says Ohio State. He's just getting his master's at LSU.
Do you root for former Ohio State players who move on to the NFL?
It’s not disingenuous if you truly care about the student athlete doing what’s best for them. You honestly believe Joe would rather be the starting QB at LSU than Ohio State right now? But being the starting QB at LSU gives him the chance to make football a career. Joe with a successful year this year has an opportunity to have an NFL career playing QB. He would have never had that chance at Ohio State as a backup. What you’re saying is disingenuous. You care more about the name on the front of the jersey than the name on the back. Don’t get it mixed up. Ohio State is an outstanding University that has molded and shaped the lives of students and athletes for many years. But it’s the people who make it that way. The people make the university, the university doesn’t make the people. I can promise you every single person inside the WHAC echoes those sentiments. This program is about the players. The players make it special. It’s the genuine love and care for these players that makes The Ohio State University home. Joe Burrow has a home at Ohio State and always will. By not acknowledging this you are going against the promises the university makes to everyone of its students the second they step foot on campus. Joe made a decision that is in the best interest of his future. How in the hell could you possibly find fault in that? The only person being disingenuous is you.
I agree man Cricejr. I think it’s because people liked him because A. From Ohio B. Coaches sonC. Played well in high schoolD. Wasn’t heralded recruit(buckeye level)E. Was a clean cut kidF. He was ....... not mobile.G. He was from Ohio H. From Ohio
As far as the once a ..... always a ..... that’s fairytale stuff. To me it’s either you with me or you ain’t. I ain’t got no time or patience for used to be. To me it takes out legitimanacy of being something for life. You live on the block or you don’t.
Life is very rarely, if ever, this black and white.
That's not how college works. You don't stay there for life. You stay for a time, learn, graduate, and move on to the next thing.
Do you root for former OSU players in the NFL?
F. He was ....... not mobile
You realize 2 of the most beloved Buckeye QBs in history were "mobile" QBs right? Braxton Miller and JT Barrett ring any bells?
PS: we all know what you're trying to imply with that and it's completely asinine to even suggest that's a factor in a vast majority of people liking/disliking a player. It may be for you, but that says more about you than the rest of Buckeye Nation.
I wish the kid well and all, but I do not root for LSU.
Love Joe Burrow. He is class in every sense.
The surprising thing about LSU media days is that anyone understood what Coach O was saying.
"Mumbla badda humpst mumbla Jeaux Burreaux. Duff ad tee wack da wam. Geaux Tigas!"
Don't believe everything you see on T.V. Abraham Lincoln
How the hell do his coaches pick up what he's saying over his headset in 80,000+ person stadiums lol
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Archie Griffin
Maybe he is like Ozzy. He sings in the mic and it comes out audible.
Go Joe Go. I hope they win the SEC because of Joe and that I get a kick out Coach O speak.
High character guy. Buckeye nation should wish nothing but the best for Burrow.
I season my simple food with hunger
Tons of respect for Joe. I think all of that stuff worked out the way it was intended. Haskins took the starting job and became Ohio State's all-time greatest 1-season QB, and Burrow has carved out a very nice place for himself at LSU and has a chance to lead them through the SEC and compete with Alabama.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Carmel. Apple. Suckas.
Although I don't have a problem with Burrow, I'm kinda over him. I don't hope him any ill will but I don't think I'll be rooting for him, LSU, or any SEC team for that matter. I don't care if they beat Alabama or not because whoever comes out of the SEC will be seen as the best team in the country outside of Clemson. They are THE rival but the SEC as a whole is A rival to me.
...I meant they are not THE rival but I'm assuming everyone knew that as there is only one (not Penn St).
LSU is the southern version of TTUN in that they both have high expectations every year and lose to their rival every year. Maybe LSU should take baby steps and worry about scoring a TD or two before even thinking about beating Alabama.
LSU is a cut above TTUN. They've won 2 national titles in the 2000s and played for a third. They haven't won less than 8 games in that time either. Yes they've had trouble with Bama recently but so has almost everyone Other than their standard "all time wins" bulls*** I don't think that TTUN has any legit argument at being a better program than LSU.
I think LSU will lose at least four games this year. They lost a lot of guys on the defensive side of the ball and let's pump the brakes on how much better they'll be on offense. If a Michigan QB had Burrow's stats, we'd mock him mercilessly; if a Buckeye QB had those stats, we'd run him out of town.
But personally I've always kind of liked LSU (at least as far as SEC teams go) and of course I like Burrow
I get that you like Burrow, but liking LSU? Perhaps you have never been to a game as a visitor at LSU. Walking to the stadium in enemy gear you are taunted with "tiger bait" cheers and jeers all the way to the stadium. Once inside be prepared for objects to be thrown at you. If they have nothing to throw they spit on you. Real classy! Eph97 compared them to TTUN, but the fan base is more of a mix between the arrogance of TTUN and the rudeness of PSU. (I do realize that every fan base has its assholes, but they seem to abound at schools like LSU.)
No I've never been to an LSU home game. I don't think Ohio State has ever played there have they?
I'm not a rabid LSU fan or anything but I do genrerally approve of their style of play. The typical LSU team is built similar to the typical OSU team - fast athletic defense with strong DLs and dominant secondaries. Offenses with powerful running games and explosive playmakers. The one big difference is that LSUs quarterback play has been attrocious in recent years, but perhaps Burrow can help turn that around this season.
Anyways I only said I like them as far as SEC teams go. I'd rather see them win than Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, etc. But it's not like I'm rushing out to buy a purple jersey...
Understood. The last time we played there was during Coach Bruce's tenure. 1987. Ended up in a 13 -13 tie. It's been a while, so maybe things have changed.
He's an alumnus of The Ohio State University, just like me. He's from my neck of the woods in southeastern Ohio. And seems to be just an all-around good person. I'll always root for Joe. Just like I hope other alumni root for me to succeed even though I left Ohio.
What's up with the people downvoting those who who say they like Joe Burrow and hope LSU has a good year? Ironically, I suspect they're often found elsewhere complaining about "thought police."
To them I say, Go Bucks! and Geaux Tigas! (I welcome the downvotes from the college-football thought police...)
I'll be rooting for Joeaux Burreaux - unless, of course, an LSU victory affects us adversely either directly or indirectly.
But since they're not likely to be contenders for the NC playoff, I'll probably be rooting for Joe and his Tigers to make life miserable for the likes of Alabama and Georgia -
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I think it’s cool that the caveman from the Geico commercial was trying to get his autograph
"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."
Can stomach them more than many other SEC teams. Like Joe. Hate Loser State. Still can’t believe the Bucks lost to them in that tltle game. Matt Flynn?! Ugh.