Who is Ohio State's More Indispensable Player on Defense?

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Had to go with Harrison.  Fuller and Young are both extremely important to this team.  But there are a lot of guys in the secondary that have flashed major potential but their youth showed at times.  On the DL, obviously we are stacked across the board so while someone may not fill in at the level of Young, it's a next man up attitude there.  At LB, the only bright spot returning from last year is Harrison and the LB group has the biggest question marks entering the season after being a liability last year.

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Hovenaut's picture

Also voted Harrison, most of the same reasons.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

Went with Harrison because the lack of other proven LB's that could fill his spot. Furthermore, Harrison is well regarded by the NFL (I've seen mock drafts with him going in rounds 2-3.

Chase Young: best defender on the team, but there's several other DE's that could fill in admirably - same thing with Jordan. Great player but there's a couple other Safeties that could fill his spot just fine. 

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Ole Buckeye's picture

My vote went with Harrison, too.  It will be interesting to see how he's deployed.

I think we have plenty of DL talent, decent batch of CBs and safeties, so.... Harrison is big, sneaky fast, and seems to have good instincts.  Werner and Borland have experience, but not NFL talent or size.  

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buckeye1964's picture

agree on harrison - he's the only sure bet we have at LB right now - there is no way we can afford to lose him.

danny

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Silver Sniper's picture

100% Harrison. The LBs are so thin and lack top end talent. After the fiasco at LB last year, I don’t think it could be any other player. 

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Buckeye Bill's picture

Had to go with MH for the reasons mentioned above. By far the best talent available at his position.

"Bring back St John"

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kiddbuckeye's picture

I thought this was a meatball of a question. Was going to type the same response, VERY surprised but not that the majority chose CY.

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Keze's picture

I voted Young, after what I saw when Bosa went down last year to our defense.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Bosa was on the field for Oregon State.  Losing Bosa sucked, but the D-Line was not the source of the issues last year.

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BUCKfutter's picture

best = young, at a position full of young studs

most indispensable = harrison, at a position where he is the lone elite player

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

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Earle's picture

I voted Fuller.  With a young secondary, I think his steady leadership will be vital.  Most indispensible does necessarily mean best.

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mr.green's picture

Right with ya. 

But love them all. 

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typeOHpositive's picture

I could make any argument for any of them as they are all valuable, but I voted Chase Young, we saw last season what happens when you take the premier DE out of the equation, the D-Line was not the same. The way teams scheme/double teams/etc are all different when the arguably best DE in college fb is not on the field.

"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM

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BeepBeep's picture

Bosa was on the field for Oregon State.  Losing Bosa sucked, but the D-Line was not the source of the issues last year.

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typeOHpositive's picture

scheme was

"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM

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livinthedream's picture

Echoing my thoughts exactly. All are important in their assignment but the disrupter that becomes a game changer is invaluable. 

Thinking all three should be captains. 

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

M. Harrison because while Chase Young is great, we have 3 or 4 other DE who are elite as well. LB has potential but very few others that are proven to be great. Poor coaching for 24 months has a price. We are catching up.

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Skunk bear blood's picture

MOST INDISPENSABLE, have to go with Malik given our situation at LB

"Because it worked," Ryan Day says, laughing.

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Vabuck213's picture

I went with Fuller because we saw poor safety play lead to lots of explosive plays last year. They are the last line of defense and a good safety can keep a 90yrd touchdown run as a 9 yrd gain. Was back an forth between Harrison and him though and can see the argument for Harrison. I just like that safety net of an elite safety back there. I also think Wade will end up playing a lot at corner and Arnette will be in the slot so it would be down to Pryor/Riep/Wint at safety and I like the potential of some of the backers over those guys. 

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Trebor40's picture

Saw the number of votes compared to posts and new it was the Harrison( Obi Wan) you're our only hope from star wars on the message boards. 

Fuller making sound decisions matters - when he was not there we were in even worse shape with scheme and situation! Yet the truth is this is all an illusion for debate. All three of these dudes were on the field during one of the worst defensive performances in our teams history - coaches matter, this ain't basketball - Army will kill a whole bunch of teams with 4* athletes this year! Being disciplined yet playing with confidence means EVERYTHING to a Defense, at least any I have been on. 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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ScarletGray43157's picture

I don't see any one player on defense as indispensable. 

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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buckslan's picture

I know people crap on the other linebackers but Malik Harrison also made a lot of mistakes. He wasn't 'elite' last year. He just messed up a little less.

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BUInvent's picture

Nobody's arguing that. But what happens when Harrison goes down? What are we going to do?

Go Bucks

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TSwerve's picture

I just think the guys look to Fuller as the leader, the guy who could have gone to the NFL, while Young is our best player and Harrison most consistent LB, the voice in the locker room will be Fullers IMO.

“It does not matter the size of the man, rather the amount of effort the man is willing to put forth” - Woody

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teddyballgame's picture

For me it's Bob Landers.  He's simply irresistible 

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vball10set's picture

nope--that would be Robert Palmer

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buckeye phi's picture

It's Fuller.  First of all, I agree with everything Vabuck213 said above. 

But while a team may not necessarily be likely to win a NC without an elite edge rusher and/or an elite OLB, it is possible.  However, I believe it is just about impossible to win one without outstanding safety play.  So we'll need Fuller to step it up a notch this season.  We'll need Brendon White to continue in his development, also - particularly since he's the odds on favorite to play "Bullet" in our new D.

And, assuming I understand correctly how the new staff will use the Bullet position, we'll have the Bullet and two safeties on the field together often enough that we're gonna need another of our safeties to really step up in a big way.   

Poor run fits, poor tackling and poor pursuit angles isn't going to get it at safety if we're looking to play at a NC level this season.  However, I strongly believe the new defensive staff will address that -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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JTFor President2016's picture

As many have said, Chase Young is the best out of the group, but I like our options if worse came to worse (Cooper, Smith, Friday, Z. Harrison). Not so confident about Malik and Fuller's replacements. I'm going with Malik. The dude is an absolute freak. His downhill style of playing is what that LB crew needs. 

Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win. 

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Chase Young may be the biggest star of the defense, but there's good enough depth on the DL...I have to go with Fuller.  I think with a young secondary, plus the issues we saw at safety before the coaches realized what they had in Brendon White...he would be a more devastating loss to the defense.  I'd actually put Young 3rd on this list, losing Harrison would hurt more than that as well.  

Class of 2010.

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Buckeyes1011's picture

Honestly could go with any one of them, but obviously Harrison is the most important when it comes to the specific position. Young is the best player, Fuller is the vet, but Harrison might be one of the most important players on the team with how awful the linebackers were last year. His play and leadership can make or break the season. 

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