1. Fuller
2. Landers
3. Cooper
4. Dobbins
5. Munford
6. Hill
I think you've got the WRs/RBs/DL represented which are the strongest units on the team. Fuller has earned his spot, obviously, Munford I think as the elder statesman, as long as he's the vocal leader you look for in the OL room is a pretty solid choice as well.
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Well, that list represents who I would choose, not who I assume or think the coaching staff is choosing. I, personally, wouldn't make him a captain, not a slight against him, just didn't feel like his play on the field warrants it, but if he wanted to prove otherwise through continued leadership and show he can get it done on the field consistently, then I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I get it, but I think that a captain is not only about on the field performance. Leaders can lead in other ways. For example, I would have easily agreed with Kenny Guiton being a captain. You can make the team better and be a leader without being a starter, although a non-starting captain would be rare.
I agree, Dan, that the obvious candidates are on the defensive side of the ball. Fuller and Borland seem to be obvious. My first thought on the offensive side was Munford. We shall see.
That’s about ten guys too many. I’ve always thought having too many captains dilutes the message, similar to having five different bosses at work trying to tell you the same thing.
I’d go Hill and Fuller as no brainers. Then maybe Cooper and someone else on offense, like Dobbins. Four total would be fine with me.
I agree with this, although I would wonder how Bowen would take it. "You're probably not going to start or see a lot of meaningful playing time, but here is a captain spot so you know we appreciate you." Not that being named a captain at Ohio State should ever be labeled as a consolation.
I have got my money on Bowen starting. He played really well before the injury. He is better than Jonah Jackson and Alabi in my opinion. He could start at RG or RT. RG seems most likely. Left to Right in my opinion Munford, Davis, Myers, Bowen, Alabi or Petit-Frere. Jonah Jackson can back up either guard spot.
I didn't mean that to be me projecting. He did play really well before the injury and I would be very confident in him starting at guard. Especially with us not really knowing what we have in Jonah Jackson. I still believe Jackson starts, but fall camp will ultimately determine that. As for the right tackle position, if all the raving about NPF and his quick feet are true, I have to believe he is going to top the two-deep at the position. But we shall see.
I wonder how Day differs with Urban in this area (if he even does). I'm thinking he goes with the two returning and two more. Since we don't see what goes on in the locker room, class, practice and weight room, etc, we can't make an informed choice.
One thing I'd like to see is a break from the Urban everyone's-a-captain deal where there were 6 or more captains. Looking back, the high prior to Urban was 5, with most years being around 3-4 (Bruce, Cooper, and Tressel). The 6+ captains continues, they're going to run out of seats at the Captain's Breakfast.
Selecting 4, without knowing locker room leadership qualities (this is the internet, so we get to do this):
3-4 seems like a good number. The 6-7 stuff doesn't make sense. If you are not a captain, it doesn't mean you aren't respected and it doesn't even mean you aren't a leader.
I’ve heard the Team does primarily vote the Captains, and then Meyer throws in his choices, in particular if they weren’t the ones the players selected.
Looking at this list it seems we have SO MUCH experienced leadership on this team, especially on the defensive side. I think our D will be back to what we are historically used to seeing this year, and that can only bode well for our chances to be excellent, especially since we have so many offensive weapons as well.
I think Hill has to be a captain. He chose to come back, he is well spoken and highly respected, and is going to be the backbone of the WR room and the offense in general.
I'm not sure what the purpose of the comment was, but:
1. He is a guy that people will listen to when he speaks.
2. He is a guy that isn't going to say something that feeds the media fire (AJ McCarron while at Alabaman, Johnny Football his entire life, Higdon getting baited into guaranteeing victory last year).
3. He is a guy that can communicate to help teach the younger players as not only a "well spoken" guy, but someone with a mountain of OSU experience.
KJ Hill is the new JT Barrett. He has been here since 2005.
Will there be more than a dozen this year ? We should pick 3 offense 3 defense and 1 special teams. Just because you were a captain last year doesn't mean you should be this year. Earn it in July and August.
Considering how many games we've won since 2012 I am more than fine with having multiple captains. We are lucky to have so many seniors this fall. KJ Hill was a true freshman in 2015. Seems like he's been here forever and he should be a captain.
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I guess it depends on how you approach it. If you take the fan perspective then you let the players elect one captain since a number of fans hold view that too many captains causes problems.
If you take the Coach Meyer perspective then we are looking at 6ish. This allows for a nice spread of O, D, and ST.
I am personally a fan of the coaches picking 4 and the team voting for 2 others.
Because the players KNOW more about what goes on in the locker room and who leads by example, I’m more of a fan of the players selecting the Captains, and the coaches selections being a throw in (which ironically is how I believe we’ve gotten to the point there’s so many Captains).
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I would probably go with six guys:
1. Fuller
2. Landers
3. Cooper
4. Dobbins
5. Munford
6. Hill
I think you've got the WRs/RBs/DL represented which are the strongest units on the team. Fuller has earned his spot, obviously, Munford I think as the elder statesman, as long as he's the vocal leader you look for in the OL room is a pretty solid choice as well.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
There is no way Borland is not a captain after being one last year.
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Well, that list represents who I would choose, not who I assume or think the coaching staff is choosing. I, personally, wouldn't make him a captain, not a slight against him, just didn't feel like his play on the field warrants it, but if he wanted to prove otherwise through continued leadership and show he can get it done on the field consistently, then I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I get it, but I think that a captain is not only about on the field performance. Leaders can lead in other ways. For example, I would have easily agreed with Kenny Guiton being a captain. You can make the team better and be a leader without being a starter, although a non-starting captain would be rare.
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Guiton was a captain in 2013, and there have been a few other examples of non-starters as captains too, such as Joe Burger in 2016.
And I was good with it guess! lol
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I’m fine with Borland playing the 2016 Joe Burger captain role...
Hammy, I tend to agree with you but this is a talented group of LB's and he may not be a starter if the young'uns step up the way they should.
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I agree, Dan, that the obvious candidates are on the defensive side of the ball. Fuller and Borland seem to be obvious. My first thought on the offensive side was Munford. We shall see.
That’s about ten guys too many. I’ve always thought having too many captains dilutes the message, similar to having five different bosses at work trying to tell you the same thing.
I’d go Hill and Fuller as no brainers. Then maybe Cooper and someone else on offense, like Dobbins. Four total would be fine with me.
I wasn't trying to suggest that all of them should be captains. Just running through all the potential candidates.
Bowen has shown so much perseverance that I think he would be a heck of candidate for captaincy.
Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted.
I agree 100%
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I agree with this, although I would wonder how Bowen would take it. "You're probably not going to start or see a lot of meaningful playing time, but here is a captain spot so you know we appreciate you." Not that being named a captain at Ohio State should ever be labeled as a consolation.
"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"
I have got my money on Bowen starting. He played really well before the injury. He is better than Jonah Jackson and Alabi in my opinion. He could start at RG or RT. RG seems most likely. Left to Right in my opinion Munford, Davis, Myers, Bowen, Alabi or Petit-Frere. Jonah Jackson can back up either guard spot.
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I didn't mean that to be me projecting. He did play really well before the injury and I would be very confident in him starting at guard. Especially with us not really knowing what we have in Jonah Jackson. I still believe Jackson starts, but fall camp will ultimately determine that. As for the right tackle position, if all the raving about NPF and his quick feet are true, I have to believe he is going to top the two-deep at the position. But we shall see.
"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"
I wonder how Day differs with Urban in this area (if he even does). I'm thinking he goes with the two returning and two more. Since we don't see what goes on in the locker room, class, practice and weight room, etc, we can't make an informed choice.
One thing I'd like to see is a break from the Urban everyone's-a-captain deal where there were 6 or more captains. Looking back, the high prior to Urban was 5, with most years being around 3-4 (Bruce, Cooper, and Tressel). The 6+ captains continues, they're going to run out of seats at the Captain's Breakfast.
Selecting 4, without knowing locker room leadership qualities (this is the internet, so we get to do this):
Fuller
Borland
Hill
Unknown Special Teamer
My six would be something like
1. Fuller
2. Borland
3. Landers
4. Cooper
5. Hill
6. Bowen
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3-4 seems like a good number. The 6-7 stuff doesn't make sense. If you are not a captain, it doesn't mean you aren't respected and it doesn't even mean you aren't a leader.
I agree, three to four is enough. And I also feel the TEAM should vote/name the Captains.
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I’ve heard the Team does primarily vote the Captains, and then Meyer throws in his choices, in particular if they weren’t the ones the players selected.
I think 9 was a bit of overkill last year and thinking max of 5 would work.
Looking at this list it seems we have SO MUCH experienced leadership on this team, especially on the defensive side. I think our D will be back to what we are historically used to seeing this year, and that can only bode well for our chances to be excellent, especially since we have so many offensive weapons as well.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
Regarding leadership, I think that Oprah Winfrey said it best, “you’re a captain, you’re a captain, everyone is a captain!”
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This could be one of the few years where our starting QB is not a captain... wow.
What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!
I think Hill has to be a captain. He chose to come back, he is well spoken and highly respected, and is going to be the backbone of the WR room and the offense in general.
What is “well spoken”? (*** eye roll ***)
I'm not sure what the purpose of the comment was, but:
1. He is a guy that people will listen to when he speaks.
2. He is a guy that isn't going to say something that feeds the media fire (AJ McCarron while at Alabaman, Johnny Football his entire life, Higdon getting baited into guaranteeing victory last year).
3. He is a guy that can communicate to help teach the younger players as not only a "well spoken" guy, but someone with a mountain of OSU experience.
KJ Hill is the new JT Barrett. He has been here since 2005.
I’ll go with:
Fuller
Borland
Landers
Hill
Mack
Harrison
Fields of Dreams
Bowen
Hill
Fuller
Landers
Borland
Go BuCks
Will there be more than a dozen this year ? We should pick 3 offense 3 defense and 1 special teams. Just because you were a captain last year doesn't mean you should be this year. Earn it in July and August.
Considering how many games we've won since 2012 I am more than fine with having multiple captains. We are lucky to have so many seniors this fall. KJ Hill was a true freshman in 2015. Seems like he's been here forever and he should be a captain.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
After looking at all the names, I can see why Meyer had trouble picking 3 or 4.
I say what the hell, go with as many captains as you want.
The real leadership will be evidenced by who is doing the pre-game speeches? Who do the guys listen to? Who shows class?
I definitely agree it's not about who is the best player...
I honestly don’t understand the Borland votes. Constantly hurt and under performing. Possibly not starting this season... I’ll pass
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I guess it depends on how you approach it. If you take the fan perspective then you let the players elect one captain since a number of fans hold view that too many captains causes problems.
If you take the Coach Meyer perspective then we are looking at 6ish. This allows for a nice spread of O, D, and ST.
I am personally a fan of the coaches picking 4 and the team voting for 2 others.
Because the players KNOW more about what goes on in the locker room and who leads by example, I’m more of a fan of the players selecting the Captains, and the coaches selections being a throw in (which ironically is how I believe we’ve gotten to the point there’s so many Captains).
Can't we just go with Doss and Nickey again?
I would love any list without Borland in it.
He's not even starting and didn't belong there.