Why, Eleven Warriors, do you keep forcing me to relive my dark past? Let it die...
Amen. I too would like to forget those years...
If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.
agreed. i had the poor luck of getting by degree during the cooper years - the only thing that saved him was Gee being his friend.
I wanted to rush the field and hug Marlon that game...
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
It is quite cathartic and necessary. If SCum is always going bring up the statistics from the first 30 years of football when they were the only ones who had equipment and uniforms, we must remember the past. "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." I hope that never ever happens as I take no solace and do not mention that we had the worst football team, but the best basketball team in my years at OSU in the late 80's and early 90's.
Now we just need to stop the stupidity and get the 2010 season's 12-1 record back in the books as everyone agrees, and it has clearly been proven by other precedents that what occurred that season had been part of college athletics since day one.
So much talent on those teams - it still hurts that wins against TSUN were so infrequent.
...but it makes current history that much better and it’s why we’ll never get complacent with kicking the shit out of those bastards.
You can't appreciate pleasure without experiencing pain!
Those were some of the most painful years.
As Coop might say, even a blind pig finds an ear of corn now and again.
2 Mike Vrabels on the same team would have been scary.
"Matt Vrabel" aka Piqua's own Matt Finkes!
I remember this game as the one OSU-TTUN game I voluntarily missed. I missed the '90, '91, and '92 games while on active duty, but made it home and watched the '93 game (why are you shuffling Bob Hoying and Bret Powers, Coach Cooper???) with my dad, in utter frustration.
I went shopping. At a mall. One of the items targeted for purchase was a pair of new kicks. So imagine my dismay upon entering a Foot Locker, with The Game on and in the last few minutes of the contest seeing that team, coached by John Cooper, putting the final touches on a well earned win over the rival (and a well deserved ride off the field on the shoulders of his charges).
I don't remember the actual shoes I bought (maybe a pair of Air Maxes), but it was the best shoe shopping experience I've had to date.
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Give me like three years to be at the monopoly-money expendable income part of life and i'm going up to go sneaker shopping with you.
About the only good things with the 90's...music (for the most part), me younger (lighter), and less fiscal responsibilities.
Exactly! Well, that and functional knees.
My old friend......
I've come to talk with you again.
I've come to talk with you again.
Let's hope not.
I watched this game from inside the Varsity Club as a mid-20's kid with nothing but OSU football to worry about. I just remember dozens of full beers being thrown up in the air when the clock hit 0.
I rewatched that game not long ago. That 94 TTUN team was almost as bad as the 2010 team we decimated at the Shoe. They were dreadful. Still didnt lessen the sweetness of the win, though Coop in familiar fashion goes out and loses the next three with three of the best teams of his entire tenure as coach.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
*Hall of Fame coach John Cooper... :|
People really forget that too.
I bleed scarlet...literally
My first Michigan game at five years old. I'll never forget rushing the field with my dad and then trying to fight against the wave pushing towards the goal post as the smell of pepper spray filled the air.
"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"
All of the young'uns need to read this and study the Cooper era. Then they will know why us old folks never want TTUN to be relevant again. If they lost every game from here to eternity I would not be sad.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
Oh yes, how painful those years were...
We were irrelevant in 2011. I can tell you losing to TTUN in 1993, 1995, 1996, and 1997 hurt FAR more than losing to TTUN in 2011.
I not only want TTUN to remain relevant, but I want them to experience that same pain as frequently as possible. I want to hand them 2006, 2016, and 2018 losses where their hopes (and delusions) are all on the line. A win over TTUN is always a great win - it's just that much more satisfying when we can crush some Wolverine dreams while doing it.
I was so desperate for wins vs ttun in the 90's that I got to the end of this article hoping the good guys won. I was nervous about the outcome.
I was at that game, in the student section and we rushed the field and were met with a barrage of pepper spray shortly thereafter. The fans were climbing the north end goalpost and security wasn't having it. It was a great game to finally get that monkey off of OSU and Cooper's back. How times have changed...
One year too @$!&”/#=^ late for this 1992 grad!
Remarkable that Penn St only beat TTUN by a touchdown earlier that year (in the Big House). We however ran into the buzzsaw in Happy Valley.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
Now that was hard to watch
Fields of Dreams
I think this was my first year attending The Ohio State University. The following years of pain have erased this memory from my mind.
'97 - Molecular Genetics
My undergrad biology teacher(another college) was just waiting to come to class Monday and razz us Buckeyes about another loss to TTUN. At least I was spared that!
It's unfortunate that so many people have so much vitriol for Coach Cooper. As someone mentioned above, the guy is a Hall of Fame coach and gave Ohio State some of it's best teams and players. I was alive around that time and I also was very frustrated by the losses to michigan. But that's what makes THIS path of destruction we've left on them even greater. But that was over 20 years ago, even Chicago forgave Bartman...let it go!
"That really showed us how much he wanted to pull out the victory," OSU tailback Eddie George said. "He's usually laid back and calm. He's not usually into emotional speeches, but that definitely pumped us up."
Cricejr: Cooper never really cared about The Game. That is why he couldn't win very many of them. The one time he showed some fire, he got a victory. Most of the time he was lukewarm. At the root of it, I believe that is why OSU fans regard Cooper as we do.
In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...
Never let go of your failures. That's kind of an important life lesson
I genuinely appreciate Cooper for the talent he brought in and the turnaround the programs Ws and Ls made under his watch.
What drove me nuts about Cooper was that he came off as downplaying losses and sometimes even blamed the players for not making enough big plays. We didn't lose to Michigan in 1996 because of a slant route. We lost to them because our playcalling was tight, the coaches were tight, and settling for FGs inside the 5 yard line when our defense was playing lights out left them in the game. 1996 should have been 17-0 at half, not 9-0. Same with the 1998 MSU loss - he described it as one of the worst he'd been a part of, but it was the OSU juggernaut of a team that looked nervous and tight, not MSU.
There were some AWESOME wins. Twice vs ND, the Rose Bowl, getting the best of some very good PSU teams, but what I lament about the Cooper era is that there was never a complete season. 1998 was oh so close. So was 1996. 1995, 1993, 1997...so many were agonizingly close to greatness. The exact reasons we have disappointment in the Cooper era (never getting over the hump) will be forever tied to the exact reasons we should have a decent level of appreciation for Coop - he put us back in a position to be close enough that everything mattered.
That was the first time I was in the 'Shoe in a very long time, having flown in from Houston to watch THE GAME with my brother and a couple buddies. The win made for a very memorable trip "home" to see my family. I still have the ticket stub to that game.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
John Copper... the gift that keeps on giving...
I was at this game. Sat behind a brother and sister, the sister in OSU gear and the brother in ttun colors.
Fickel's interception was a thing of beauty.
Of course, I didn't know about Cooper's halftime speech until reading it in the Dispatch. News traveled differently then.
Coop's 1988 intro to The Rivalry was an almost-had-it. I think it was a Calloway bom late in The Game that took it from the good guys. I often wonder what great things could have been for Cooper had that game gone the Buckeyes' way. Just seemed star-crossed from the start.
*That 1994 psu team was a genuine lion.
We have lead the series since 1908......16-3 in this century so far and will continue to do so going forward.
Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.
So Cooper had some Urban Meyer in him the whole time, and he just didn't let it out? This hurts me too, but at the same time, even though we demanded Cooper be fired, and celebrated it with Jim Tressel, I still love the guy. Those with multiple kids know this. It is like our bad one. We still love her.
His teams were so talented it's ridiculous. I know some of you that are a little younger think Meyer killed it, and he did in terms of ranking, but Cooper's players were awesome.
As a student, I was there near the top of section 10A, IIRC. Besides Wheatley's helmet getting stolen the night before the game, what I remember most is how tense that game was, and how I could practically see the noise with the safety, blocked FG, and pick. I've been to probably 100+ games in the 'Shoe, but never one that loud. We partied until about 4:00am, then walked to a Taco Bell that stayed open. I woke up around noon with a flashing traffic barrier in my room that my roommates told me I had insisted was mine on the way back from Taco Bell. Good times...
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
Ugh ! He got the job because he beat that team up north in the Rose Bowl then couldn't beat them for us. Very frustrating years for sure. Wish he could have landed those 2 Ohio guys that killed us in the 90's. Dark age for sure and glad the next 2 decades reversed the Cooper Curse.
Rose Bowl or Bust
I was at that game. My Dad still has a stadium cup with 22-6 written on it. Too bad it happened a year after I graduated. I never saw a win against TTUN my entire college career.
That's why I like seeing TTUN fail, and fail again. I'm in it for the lulz.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer