The Bye Weeks Are Multiplying in Number, and It's Because We Can't Accept Football As Finite

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brutus360's picture

Taking a quick look at the schedule, Ryan Day and company will be chilling, illing, and possibly doing some backyard grilling on October 12th and November 2nd (and in between that, will face Northwestern on Friday, October 18th for some reason). That's three beautiful autumn Saturdays in which Ohio State will be doing precisely jack and squat.

This was a classic paragraph.

And being retired, I've become a master at jack and squat.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

The B1G schedule makers are dumb for giving us two bye weeks close together. More worried about it killing any momentum we may have at the time.

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Silver Sniper's picture

The one way it could come in handy is if a vital player is healing up from an injury (knock on wood) that could buy us some time. 

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Cooper's picture

Any football is good football when you’re laboring during the off-season. But when it’s mid-November and I’m on my 4th Tuesday MACtion game of the year, it gets a little tiring. 

Three Saturdays without Buckeye football this fall makes me sad. 

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IGotAWoody's picture

"players need bye weeks to recover from injury and strain" (eliminating two games from the schedule would do more for player safety than giving them extra time to recover from said games)

While I understand the theory that playing fewer games is better when it comes to player safety, I disagree strongly with the idea of reducing bye weeks and just playing 11 consecutive games. That bye week is critical for getting rest and letting minor aches and pains heal.

I would bet that if you asked players and coaches, they would prefer 2 bye weeks during the season.

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kmp10's picture

In the Year of Our Lord 2019, the Ohio State Buckeyes will have two bye weeks. 

That, my friends, is dumb.

I disagree entirely. Two bye weeks serve to make the season longer while not making extra demands on the players' bodies. The college football season is short enough -- they could essentially play two CFP seasons inside of the eight month long NHL and NBA seasons -- so I'm all for extending it by any almost means necessary, and an extra bye week is about as benign as any option in existence.  Personally, I wouldn't start the season, at the earliest, until the first Saturday in September, or the second Saturday if Sept. 1 falls on a Saturday. The August and September games in the heat of the day are unnecessary. Talk about player safety... playing anything, but especially football in helmets and pads, at high noon in 88* temps with humidity levels through the roof isn't optimal. Generally speaking, playing a football game in Ohio Stadium in September before the typical 7pm cool down isn't in the players' best interests. 

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

Much agreed on the heat point. As a player, it just absolutely kills you. All those pads add an extra 20 degrees in terms of how it feels. It’s potentially dangerous if players aren’t monitored.

And as a fan, nobody wants to sit in 90 degree weather in the hot sun at noon in September while the local team is up 63-0 on some nobody. It works at OSU because the demand to go to games is so great, and for many people, they only games they can afford/get tickets to are these games. But in most cases, it just hurts the fan experience too.

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Ethos's picture

I think his point is instead of having more bye weeks to rest as you argue, have one less game and therefore one less week of practice this reducing said impacts.

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PhillyNut's picture

I also disagree with Johnny's take.  Youngsters do not remember the shorter season where no conference championship was played, where there was not the possibility of playing essentially two bowl games, and the regular season was 9, then 10, then 11, then occasionally 12 to now 12 every year. We are blessed rooting for team that year in and year out has a shot at playing all the extra games.  Most fans of NCAA football are left with watching other teams because theirs are not making it to these extra games. Players need in-season breaks, especially later in the year as they develop those nagging injuries that one week between games simply do not allow the players to gain significant healing time.

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Hovenaut's picture

One bye week is bad enough, but I get it - a healthy pause for the student-athletes. I can accept it.

Two (or God forbid, more) bye weeks suck.

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BuckingRight's picture

I'll have to see how this plays out. 2 bye weeks might give me the opportunity to make an appearance at family/friends fall weddings. But to all my family and friends, if you're getting married during football season and OSU is playing, expect a no-show from me.

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yankeescum's picture

Several years ago, when the NFL was thinking about adding a 17th game, I sent a proposal to league offices, sportswriters, and anyone else that I hoped would listen (none did, zero response), to instead have a twenty week season with only sixteen games. It would give three more weeks of nationally televised games, and give the players a chance to heal nagging injuries before they aggravate into major injuries. It seemed like a win/win. But I guess it made too much sense.

I am a huge proponent of bye weeks. They stuck for us fans, but in terms of player health, they mean the world. And for an organization that reaps its huge profits off the backs of young amateur athletes working their ass off to play an incredibly dangerous game, it makes sense to do right by (bye?) them.

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Sanantonefan's picture

I'm surprised they haven't done that already. Then, they could make some PR gains about it being about player safety (wink! wink!) and get more advertising dollars.

I'd love to see them getting rid of the mid-week games too, but that's not going to happen.

In any case, I wish the byes were spread out more. You know the NCAA will not shorten the season though. It's all about the almighty dollar!

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sonofsarek's picture

More bye weeks is good. Gives players rest and prolongs the season. Also, those insane people who plan fall weddings can do so now on a bye week. 

Play the august/early sept games at night. Oct games -mixed times. Nov games: 12 or 330. People don’t like to fry or freeze.  

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PRO8's picture

Yes the answer to early hot weather games is easy just play later in the day or at night.... of course there will be byatching about that also but you either want football or you don't. The time it is played is really a nonissue except for those who want to make it a big deal for mostly personal reasons.

I think the 2 bye weeks are no big deal either,  the only issue, scheduling but being a small issue  it gives the kids a break  during the season that is really not that long to begin with in comparison to other sports seasons that some go on to play. It also sets it up for adding more teams to the CFP down the road as the argument against that right now seems to weigh heavily on the season being to long with added teams which flies in the face of NCCA BBtrny, and FCS football's 16 team playoff. Thus the problem being as usual the hangers on to the tradition of no playoff and bowl games during the late year holidays. It is easy enough to have a playoff and bowl games as we already have it now so WTF is the problem. Of course with the added teams the 2 bye week we see right now will probably disappear but we will have probably gained a much more legitimate playoff.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

But...but...if one game is eliminated from the schedule what happens to Chickens**t Saturday???

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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Ramzy is gonna be invited to soooooo many fall weddings this year.

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tGW's picture

Cortlands are best for baking. I mean, apple-picking...pffft. I'll watch other games.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

This is the direct result of the Wedding Planner Lobby trying to squeeze in an extra weekend of fall weddings. 

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Gflbuck's picture

It will give brides an extra chance to plan a fall wedding. 

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Sanitarian2's picture

The last two fall Buckeye weddings I attended had a TV installed in order to get guests to come and stay. One was at the request of the bride, the other was brought in by the groomsmen. It's more difficult to get the Priests approval to put one on the altar but it can be done.

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buckeye phi's picture

I'm all for giving the players some opportunities to heal and rest up a bit over the long grind of a B1G football season.  However, having two byes in such quick succession is not a good idea, in my opinion. 

The schedulers should actually think about the players more - and spread 'em out  -

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smith5568's picture

There are some arguments to be made in favor of the current system: "any football is good football" (this is absolutely false)...

Johnny, right here is where you lost me. Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad. Any [college] football is good football, period.  

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BuckIDave's picture

Not a big fan of bye weeks, but I'm not playing so I don't know the toll that a football season takes on the body. I'm a runner, and I don't run a marathon every week, my body simply couldn't take it.

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Lighteyes's picture

The premise of the article is missing the point. This isn't really an actual intended strategy to add more bye weeks. It's just a quirk of the regular season calendar that it happens to fall in a way that you get one more Saturday between Labor Day weekend and the end of November:

2020 future schedule (one bye week): First game September 5th, last game November 28th, Championship Weekend on December 5th.

2019 (two bye weeks): First game August 30th, last game November 30th, Championship Weekend on December 7th.

2018 (one bye week): First game September 1st, last game November 24th, Championship Weekend on December 1st.

2017 (one bye week): First game August 31st, last game November 25th, Championship Weekend on December 2nd.

Notice the difference? In 2019, the calendar falls in such a way that there's one extra Saturday between Labor Day Weekend and the first Saturday in December. It's not some secret strategy to extend the season, it's just a result of the fact that the 365 days in a year is not evenly divisible by 7.

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MercyTex's picture

How dare you bring facts into an argument!

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BuckeyeGoneNuts's picture

Your logic has no place around here.  It's not welcome.  Get outta here with that and come back when you've thought up a properly illogical irrational take like the rest of us :D

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Next you’ll be telling us that the Earth’s orbit isn’t exactly 365 days, and that we have to add an extra day in the calendar every four years. Heathen. 

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mtrotb's picture

If the Saturday of Labor Day opening weekend falls in August it becomes a 14 Saturday schedule until end of November.  If the Saturday of Labor Day opening weekend is in September then it is a 13 Saturday schedule until end of November.

mtrotb

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Sanitarian2's picture

Do the players like Bye weeks?

Sani

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Some times a little too much. Just ask JT Barrett.

Too soon?

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gobucks1966's picture

They will never reduce games the schools need the revenue. OSU banks on nine home games and a bowl to pay the bills. The main reason for byes that no one will ever admit is for TV so they can show more big games during the season. If they really cared about players health more teams in the playoff wouldn't be a issue and never go past 4 teams $$$$. One thing they could change for the fairness of the game is having teams that play one another a bye at the same time so no team gets a advantage. PSU many times had a bye the week before we played them. I think Paterno made the scheduals and this year too they are sitting pretty compared to who we have to deal with.

Denny

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mtrotb's picture

I am not going back to every year, but OSU does not have nine home games.  I would say very rare to even have eight.  More seven and even six.  Especially with nine game conference schedule.  Every other year four of the nine at home, every other five.  So if you have a year with four and you have home & away with national top 25 program you may have only six home.

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gobucks1966's picture

Not to cover my behind but 7 was the number not 9 that the school said they need to have but there was a  8 like 6 or 7 years ago. Sorry 

Denny

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Lighteyes's picture

So if you have a year with four home games and you have home & away with national top 25 program you may have only six home.

This can (and will) happen on occasion, but they do really try to avoid this. Part of the reason that OSU and other teams schedule their OOC games a half-decade or more in advance is to coordinate with conference schedules to avoid having only six home games in any given year.

Ideally, the future schedules would basically be a series of two-year cycles: 

Year 1: Ohio State plays 4 B1G home games, 2 G5 home games, and has Big Name Opponent visit Columbus for 7 total home games

Year 2: Ohio State plays 5 B1G home games, 2 G5 home games, and repays the favor by visiting Big Name Opponent for 7 total home games

Of course, it won't always play out so nicely due to cancellations, coordination difficulties, Gary Patterson fleeing in terror when he realizes he's playing Ohio State in back-to-back years, and so forth...but that's the goal anyways.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Aren’t they getting something on the order of $55M per year just in BTN revenue? Not to mention the ESPN contract with the B1G for TV rights to the other half of their games. 

The bills are paid. The home game revenue is just gravy. 

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gobucks1966's picture

That's true but just like our government they can't wait to spend that money. If a team gets something the next team has to get a bigger one. Look at that tunnel our team runs through with the light show. Which is a recruiting ploy and that's not the reason to play here but one needs to keep up with the Jones.

Denny

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buckinpa's picture

Not sure that I like the title of this article from the front page...but the content is worth the reading!

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MichaelTimer54's picture

 No team had ever won 14 games until Ohio State did it in the 2002 championship season

Not quite true.  BYU went 14-1 in 1996. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_BYU_Cougars_football_team)

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Tony Stark's picture

OSU was the first to win 14 undefeated

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Go1Bucks's picture

2 bye weeks are stupid. Playing on the weekend of (17th thru 22nd depending on year) was not stupid, it was the perfect weekend to kick Shitagain's ass - the stupid came from the NCAA by placing the title game in friggin next year. Really stupid.
If we have to have a bye, only 1, and it should be random. The conf. and NCAA and TV should have zero to do with it. Or you just get more stupid.

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Sunny Buck's picture

As a former football player through high school, I like the 2 bye weeks. The players can heal, relax a little and possibly have more time to work on necessary adjustments. We never had bye weeks when i played and man could we have used one at times.

I also like the Friday night game at Northwestern. That's another football Saturday when we can watch other games with hopefully, a Buckeye win in the bank. I do hate mid week games. They are unnecessary money driven events.

Johnny, what's wrong with FAU? They are a legit program with a good coach and an excellent way to open a season. This is especially important this season with a new coach, new schemes and a new quarterback.

Love your articles Johnny.....even when you're wrong ! LOL. Go Buckeyes.

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chirobuck's picture

I disagree with basically this entire take, you want to eliminate the cupcakes and jist not have them play anyone, because ots not entertaining enough....so its more entertaining watching them play no one? And shortening the season to eliminate the byes....isn't that pretty much the same as just moving the 2 byes to the first 2 weeks of the season? I mean its not like your replacing them with more games. And yes any football is better than no football, even the 60-0 blowouts, i love watching the young guys get in and always excired to see who flashes and get that early glimpse of our future stars

 

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cledaybuck's picture

I won't lie and say that I'm not looking forward to enjoying some relatively stress-free weekends during the best month on the Ohio calendar

Ohio State doesn’t have any byes in September.

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osu992's picture

Two bye weeks are the best. This will be the best season in years. 8% better than average.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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Ba Ba Boolio's picture

I’ve noticed the last couple of years that I get several wedding invitations for bye weeks. I assume the bride  is trying to avoid the distraction of an OSU game during the ceremony. 

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JBFinSanAntonio's picture

You say, "The truth is that there's no reason for the Ohio States of the world to be playing the Florida Atlantics of that same world." That is EXACTLY what Kirk Herbstreit inferred, on air, minutes before the Michigan-Appalachian State game in 2007: "Chad Henne, he could set a record today unless they take him out of the game. …  it starts today against poor ole Appalachian State." 

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JBFinSanAntonio's picture

You say, "The truth is that there's no reason for the Ohio States of the world to be playing the Florida Atlantics of that same world." That is EXACTLY what Kirk Herbstreit inferred, on air, minutes before the Michigan-Appalachian State game in 2007: "Chad Henne, he could set a record today unless they take him out of the game. …  it starts today against poor ole Appalachian State." 

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Turfgrad's picture

Should be able to aerate the lawn and do my Fall fertilization without pause on Saturdays in Oct. & Nov.

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Braxtonkeepsit's picture

The more bye weeks the better.  Stretch a 12 game season out as long as possible.  For example, I can dwell on Northwestern for 13 days instead of 7, no problem.  

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BennyOhio's picture

Whats everyone's thoughts on the Friday night game?

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