Got all excited to read about MILTON’s impact on the class. Now that would be a big boom!
Pain of Discipline
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Melton, Milton, Meltdown...whatever Welcome Aboard mate!
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Yep, I was confused too. The title still says Milton, and the one next to it says Melton, here at 2:20.
Makes my head spin.
Success - it's what you do with what you've got. - Woody Hayes
Fixed! (I'm not perfect either, but I don't want a prized recruit tuning in and seeing his name spelled wrong)
Al Washington is going to have to start landing those 5-star LBs or the commentariat here will not be happy.
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
We sure have seemed to land a good number of 5* LB's in the recent past that never even sniffed the field. I trust the coaches to find good fits for the program, regardless of recruiting ranking. I find that most of the lower rated commitments we get are typically due to the player being massively underrated, this includes Melton and Joe Royer from earlier today.
Caring about the commenters on this site is probably the last thing any of our coaches should do
If the coaches listened to commenters on this site, the football team wouldn’t have been to a bowl game in years lol
The majority of commenters here, including 11 warriors staff, buckeye media, etc. thought ttun would beat the buckeyes last yr by several tds. Oops!
Oh ye of little faith! :-P Re: 3 stars immediately think of Darron Lee, the energizer bunny. He seemed to be in every defensive highlight reel chasing down someone ~ 'nuf said!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain
Oh totally agree Jrich - unfortunately, we, the other members of the commentariat have to suffer the outrage.
Now it's real, our 2020 recruiting is so hot that our new Linebacker is Melt'n
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
Well done, sir!
Very nicely done. Amped to have Melton in this class!! Just keep an eye out for this young man. He will be making huge plays for us in a couple of years. All the naysayers will look like dummies.
Good to hear Melton is probably not going to be as much of a "project" as a 3 star linebacker would typically be. I'm all in favor of a smart kid. - regardless of his 40 time. Plus, if he's going to play predominately inside, his shuttle time should be a better indicator, anyway.
On a not entirely unrelated topic, I'm assuming we'll still have room for Kourt Williams as a third linebacker in this class. From everything I've read, he would be a near perfect fit for our Bullet position - and last time I checked, 247sports still had him trending to us, Am I right about that, Taylor?
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers
Not Taylor but if you read the last umpteen threads it is pretty much a lock KW is headed to the Good Guys.
Yeah, Bobsegersilverb.... That could be where I first came across his name, actually. I'm just curious to know how many linebackers we may be looking to take in this class.
I realize this could be a pretty good sized class, but there are limits at a given position group in any cycle. Although, I suppose we would always find a way to make room for a recruit like Williams if and when he decides to join the good guys - regardless of how many not-as-highly-rated recruits we may have taken in the meantime.
Plus - Williams could play Bullet - and I don't think one can say that about Simon - and certainly not Melton.
Perhaps, I'm just getting a little leery of the number of three stars we seem to be accumulating in this class (already six - according to 247sports - although that does include a very highly ranked kicker) - but at the same time, I don't like feeling so beholdin' to the recruiting sites' rankings.
I suppose, until proven otherwise, I probably ought to trust our coaches evaluations more -
Williams is being recruited for the Bullet position by the coaching staff. It is a little confusing because the Bullet is considered a hybrid LB/S position. Melton and Simon are going to be "true" LBs while Williams will be strictly considered for the Bullet position.
Wow...what a pleasant surprise!
I don't comment as much as before either, but it's good to see you back, Phi. I always enjoyed your pleasant demeanor and insight. Here's hoping all has been well with you and yours.
The Buckeye behind enemy lines...
I feel like Melton will move to DE before it’s all said and done. With his size and quickness, it’s seems like a more natural fit in college and hopefully the NFL.
Agree. DE for sure.
3 stars..... Gonna trust that you're above the average with potential that 3 stars implies. If we get 4 more 3 stars we can almost guarantee that we won't have a top 4 class. Have to rush though because NSD is a mere 7 months away. Things that make you go hmmmm.
3 stars..... Gonna trust that you're above the average with potential that 3 stars implies.
Lighten up francis
ask James Laurinaitis and AJ Hawk what they think about 3 star rankings
"The future is bright at Ohio State." - Urban Meyer 1/1/15
You star chasing idiots crack me up. Here's the composite ranking on all linebackers taken in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft
Devin White - 5th overall, 4* .9393, #135 overall, 2016
Josh Allen - 7th overall, .7965, #2121 overall (doesn't even have a damn profile picture on 247), 2015
Devin Bush - 10th overall, barely a 4* (makes such a HUGE difference right?), .8951, #312 overall, 2016
None of them were top 100 guys. The only thing that makes people go hmmmm are stupid comments like these, no wonder you got greyed out.
Give me Tuf over him any day and that is not saying much for him.
Really? I watched the HUDL film and he moves pretty good. I know Tuf was injured but Jeez, he was slow last year.....
Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....
You sound like you are ordering a hamburger at McDonalds.
Welcome to the family, Mitchell!
I'll take Melton's offer sheet and Coach Johnson/coach Washington's eye over any starhanderouters declaration of lackluster. Maybe the 11W staff should have have enough class not to use that term in an article about Melton's commitment-nothing like throwing shade at a recruit before he's even signed his LOI.
This is a time to celebrate, people.
We are in a bit of a shift in recruiting style and strategy post Urban Meyer, if you've noticed. More of a "fit" vs "stars" and less of a national recruiting title emphasis. We seem to be getting top athletes in some areas: QB, receiver, D Line, O Line, D Back(?). Then it seems that we are fitting pieces into the other positions. Time will tell how it works. Our best recruiters are hauling em in, the newer guys still finding their legs perhaps?
I agree, seems clear to me that an allowance is made for developmental position like O line, TE, etc., Less about the underwear Olympics and more about what type of football player and teammate the prospect will be in two years. Doesn't do you any good to sign a 5 star and them have him move on after a year because of PT issues.
The best coaches and business people for that matter adapt to the new rules and environment...TP has changed the landscape...grass is always greener guys not worth the trouble and the holes they could create in your roster.
The Grinder is right on the $
Montana Silver Bullet
speaking of money Silver...Grinder does love the shiny metals
I think you're right Steely, and overall, Day's approach seems to be a bit closer to Dabo Swinney's--a kind of two-tiered approach, where you sign a combination of 5-star monsters at glamor positions--guys who will likely be early exits to the NFL--along with developmental guys that hopefully blossom into 5-star talents by their junior and senior years.
Granted, every program does this to some degree, mostly out of necessity, I guess, but it seems a little more intentional on Day's part per managing annual cycles and turnover, perhaps with an eye towards the growing impact of transfers.
On a separate note, one other added emphasis I see--and maybe I'm imagining it--is hitting and/or sure tackling, etc., and I've got no complaint with that.
Ohio State has received verbal commitments from two very good linebacker prospects recently.
That's a fact.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
Between more 3-star recruits + more local Ohio recruits + a little less emphasis on speed, one thing's for sure--this coaching staff clearly has a different philsophy per which players they sign and why.
And yet, we have the same guy in charge of player personnel / recruiting (Mark Pantoni), not to mention player development, so I'll definitely give them the benefit of the doubt.
Besides, I wouldn't want to overstate the case here, because it's not as if there's a shortage of speed and top 100 commits in the 2020 class.
Still, I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear Day discussing the rationale and related nuances of his recruiting philosophy relative to Meyer's. I mean, sure, he's already publicly stated that he's focused on talent and he also wants to make his imprint on Ohio, but I wonder if he has any other thoughts that he might be less willing to share in public?
Maybe not, but it'll be fun to see how it all plays out, and if nothing else, nobody can accuse Day of trying to copy everything Meyer did.
As far as I can tell, he's retained Urban's best practices, and yet, he's clearly his own man with his own notions, which I think is best.
That is, as long as it works, right?
But, hey, he'll likely finish with a top 5 recruiting class in his first year, if not better, which means OSU still enjoys an embarrassment of riches.
Meanwhile, welcome on board Mr. Melton! OSU'S coaches really like you, and that's all that counts.
There's underwear Olympics speed and there's pads on the field speed. I don't think Coach Day is willing to compromise on the later.
Yep, Stx, I just made a comment about that above, and I likewise get the impression that Day is digging big hitters, not necessarily at the expense of overall team speed, but as a clear and welcome pre-requisite.